- Report: #792970
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Complaint Review: Hobo Prince Economic Project
Hobo Prince Economic Project9209 Ne 116th Avenue Portland, Oregon United States of America
Hobo Prince Economic Project be-rio.info Shelby "Saku" Bell is a fraud and a scam Portland, Oregon
*Consumer Comment: Hobo Prince Project
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: The hobo's history in Longview
*Consumer Comment: Transparency?
*General Comment: Once again---no signature, not even a first name
*UPDATE Employee: Someone who knows.....
*Consumer Comment: Hobo Prince
*Consumer Comment: Clarification response to date of document posted by Mr. Bell
*Consumer Comment: A reply to Mr. Ruach
*Consumer Comment: A Question for Mr. Bell and his followers...
*Consumer Comment: It appears to be moot now...
*Consumer Comment: Thanks for allowing venting...let's consider being supportive
*Consumer Comment: consumer supporter
*General Comment: Now what....
*General Comment: Fight or Flight
*Consumer Suggestion: The Hobo Prince Economic Project Needs Time
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: To Greatness
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Saku Bell
*General Comment: for more reasonable.
*Consumer Comment: Expect Great Things!
*Consumer Comment: LOL, wow , so you lost 25 F ' n dollars... let it go.
*Consumer Comment: I read what you wrote and how. Not nice.
*REBUTTAL Individual responds: TRUTH - Please Answer Rebuttals - People want to know!
*Consumer Comment: finally
*Consumer Comment: ehhh!!!!!
*General Comment: Looking for the TRUTH and offering thought process
*General Comment: Agreed
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First off, ask yourself this why does Mr. Bell have to collect $25.00 up front from us? If this was/is a legitimate project then why is it that he is not waiting for all of the parties (bank, insurance, IpI buyer etc) to come on board and then have people pay? According to one of his most recent webinars he claims that we will no longer have to wait to begin getting paid after you have signed up so what is the rush in taking our funds? If he wants some order in respects to 1st come 1st serve well then he can have/keep a list of names and addresses and then based on payments proceed with adding them to the project. [continued below]....
Second reason I believe that it is a scam is that the reason why he had to stop using "Paypal" the payment option he used earlier on is because Paypal recognize this as a scam...I paid with Paypal this is how I know. When I asked for a refund Paypal stated that I wasn't the first person to request a refund and when he announce that they were no longer using Paypal I inquired to Paypal and they stated that when they start to get a lot of request for refunds they investigate the company further to determine their legality; if the company doesn't add up or stay true to its contracts than they will not allow their (Paypal) services to be used.
Third, on his most recent webinar "16th" he made mention that 2 people went to the insurance company that he mentioned in the contract to expose his fraud. You mean to tell me that if you are working with millions no, according to him billions of dollars you don't have the common since to know that you cannot claim representation of a business "name" in a contract that you do not have a legal contract with (makes you wonder how he ever got the $357 B huh). And speaking of contracts can you believe that sorry excuse for a legal contract that he was using. I put together a more professional looking contract when I was in the 4th grade. Where is his lawyer (s) in all of this? You would think a man with that kind of money would have lawyer (s) writing his contracts or supporting this legitimate scam.
Forth, and not in the least the last I have sent numerous emails to all of the email addresses they have listed since the first week of September when I signed up and they have till yet to respond to any of them. I have asked them to refund me my $25. 00 on numerous occasions and surprise, surprise they have not responded. Paypal will not get involved so like me, we are assed out if paid already.
You know the old saying If it sounds too good to be true then chances are it's not true. I had a gut feeling when I did this transaction but I thought like most us thought "what the hell its only $25. 00 I spend that going to the movies" and you know what, that's exactly what he was counting on. That's the real reason why it's priced at $25.00.
So, what has Mr. Bell done for us lately?
So far he has done a lot of flapping his gums, but he has done nothing to support what he is saying. Where are the tablets, hell where are the stupid a*s books he claims to have written? For those of us who are skeptical why can't we see a contract or something from this company confirming that this is in the making? He has made a whole host of promises and has done nothing to back them up. The problem he will soon have is it's about to get ugly. More and more people are questioning this gimmick. So my guess is soon and very soon he will go into hiding. He will need to put up or shut up. What he is doing now is just baiting people in with these false promises as much as he possibly can... this is like a full time job for him and he gets paid daily. If this thing does not pan out soon then I would be willing to get a lawyer and sue him in a "Class Action Lawsuit". Anyone else feel this way?
This is ridiculous we not only have Wall Street and the Government stealing from us, but this man has the audacity to come to our inner neighborhoods where we are already struggling to make ends meet, where most people are not educated enough to know if the numbers and the things he is saying are really adding up, yet so desperate (me included) that we jump at the first opportunity where we think that God has answered our prayers and sent relief at such a great time of need. We grasped on to this "hope" with $25.00 wanting to be the first in line just in case it was real. Hmmm, I got your number, because I am you. Thank you for letting me vent.
Signed: Used and Abused
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