• Report: #414644

Complaint Review: House Of Fire Sanctuary

  • Submitted: Wed, January 21, 2009
  • Updated: Sun, July 22, 2012

  • Reported By:sioux falls South Dakota
House Of Fire Sanctuary
606 York St Gettysburg, Pennsylvania U.S.A.

House Of Fire Sanctuary Thomas Crain Spiritual Abuse This so called church is a CULT!! Gettysburg Pennsylvania

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Louise Bushinger, Nothing Better to do than Harass a Pastor

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Louise Bushinger, Get your facts straight...

*Consumer Comment: Learn A Lesson

*Consumer Comment: Spiritual Demons

*Author of original report: Correction

*Author of original report: Correction

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Mr Crain is a so called ordained pastor. He claims to heal people.
Mr. Crain is a spiritual abuser! He is a con artists as well.
He knows the bible, but so do cults. He will break up your family and travel with him to follow his cult.
I have been so spiritually abused by this so called pastor, that I have a hard time trusting anyone even pastors anymore.
He is also running scams on the internet to keep himself and his so called church afloat.
He also has a misdemenor in Minnesota for giving a false name. hmmmm, what "pastor" would do that?
This man is all out for himself and his expensive taste.
Steer clear and don't fall into this canyving thiefs prey!!
Spiritual abuser and con artist is what he is.
He also does not provide an email or phone # on his website or brochures. Funny isn't it? All it says is we will contact you. He is a very private sneaky person. He does not like to answer questions and believes prayer is a waste of time.
BEWARE!!

Anonymous
sioux falls, South Dakota
U.S.A.

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#1 REBUTTAL Individual responds

Louise Bushinger, Nothing Better to do than Harass a Pastor

AUTHOR: ThomasCrainResponds - (United States of America)


Louise Bushinger:

Get real.

I am a full-fledged ordained Pastor, not from the Internet.  Remember, you viewed my Card of Ordination that every minister carries.  Why lie now?

Yes, I claim to have healed people, under the power of the Holy Spirit.  Do you not remember the night when the lady came into my church with knee problems.  You were standing right there.... in my former  storefront church that you've been badmouthing for the past 4 years... when she was jumping up and down, saying that she's been healed.

Your husband witnessed a woman's back being healed outside of a restaurant that he and I ate at.
Bill was very amazed at what God had done through me and he told you about it.  Obviously, you don't remember and obviously, you'd rather lie about me than to WRITE THE TRUTH. 

I broke up your family?  Ha.  Hardly.
I spent hours counseling Bill, even agreed to counsel your daughter.
If I didn't care, why would I offer to counsel members of your family for HOURS... without pay?
What con artist would do that?

Louise, please, a cult?  Sounds like you've been off Seroquel too long.

God had called me to Sioux Falls to start a church.  You and Bill both agreed to do so.  I didn't force you to do anything.  You had all free will.

If you remember right, you didn't have the funds to move.  I borrowed you and your husband OVER $5,000 for your move.  WHAT CON ARTIST WOULD DO THAT?  You were so excited for your new house.  You both invited me over to see the different wallpaper, the newness of the house and the blessings of God that had happened for you.  How did that all happen? God telling me to loan you the money.  You failed to tell that to everyone who is reading the trash you've been saying about me.

I did not run scams on the Internet to keep the church afloat.  Nice lie, lady.  I work very hard for the money that God has blessed me with.

Truth is, I was pulled over in Burnsville, MN. YEARS AGO.  My driver's license hadn't been updated yet with my new address.  You care about so many petty things...  Are you sure you're not a part of the papparazzi?

Yes, I have expensive tastes.  When you obey God, you're entitled to live in His blessings.
Obviously, you must have been sleeping through my sermons, especially about backbiting and living carnally.

I am not a thief.  There were many people I helped while the church was in South Dakota. It's such a shame that you and your family decided to leave, because you thought Bill should be MORE in my church than what he was doing.  You wanted to control me and wanted me to follow your plans.  When I didn't want to do what you thought I should do (spirit of witchcraft), you get on your high horse and spread lies and gossip about me, which is why I am rebutting all your lies from 4 years ago.

I don't believe prayer is a waste of time, as you claim.  Again, another lie of yours.
This lie is stemming from when you asked me to pray for something and I wouldn't. Some things are just common sense and don't need prayer.  Like if you ask God, "Should I go win someone to Jesus?"  That's a prayer that doesn't have to be prayed because God tells us all to Go ye into all the world to preach the Gospel ...   If it's in God's Word, you automatically know that it's His will...

I apologize if there was a disconnect between my teachings and your understanding...


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Louise Bushinger, Get your facts straight...

AUTHOR: ThomasCrainResponds - (United States of America)



I did not give a false address as you claimed, Ms. Faultfinder.  I had moved and my old address was on my driver's license.  Do you ever give up on your pettiness?
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#3 Consumer Comment

Learn A Lesson

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (U.S.A.)

Geeezzzzzzzzzz Louise...get a life! Have you nothing better to do then complain about a church? If you had a bad experience with this church, then leave! Go on! Be one with yourself and go elsewhere! Everyone has a past. We have ALL sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God...you included. Otherwise we wouldn't need God and His perfect forgiveness. Let he who has no sin cast the first stone....
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#4 Consumer Comment

Spiritual Demons

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (U.S.A.)

Sounds to me like you've got spiritual demons yourself...better get those cast out. Only I wouldn't ask Pastor Crain to do it....
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#5 Author of original report

Correction

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (U.S.A.)

I said in my report that Mr Crain gave a false name. Correction is he gave a FALSE ADDRESS in Minnesota.
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AUTHOR: Anonymous - (U.S.A.)

I said in my report that Mr Crain gave a false name. Correction is he gave a FALSE ADDRESS in Minnesota.
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AUTHOR: Anonymous - (U.S.A.)

I said in my report that Mr Crain gave a false name. Correction is he gave a FALSE ADDRESS in Minnesota.
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AUTHOR: Anonymous - (U.S.A.)

I said in my report that Mr Crain gave a false name. Correction is he gave a FALSE ADDRESS in Minnesota.
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