- Report: #710686
Complaint Review: Illinois Tollway
| Illinois Tollway 2700 Ogden Ave.
Downers Grove, Illinois United States of America |
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Illinois Tollway $300 in tolls jumps to attorneys trying to get me for $27K !!!!! Complete Fraud!!! Downers Grove, Illinois
*Author of original report: Wrong information or just plain crooked...
*UPDATE Employee: Your information is wrong.
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A few months passed and we realized that the auto replenish was still not taking money out of our account. We were in the holiday season, and my downfall was waiting a little to long to contact the tollway again. When I contacted the tollway they gave me the same response that I received back in June. I argued with them that something had to be wrong. I advised them they need to look at both accounts in my name. Problem found. My account showed that I had not paid a toll since June when the bankcard was reported stolen. I inquired why I had not received any notice from the tollway. They stated that the address they had on file was from my townhouse 5 years prior. I gave them my information so that they could send me the violations. I was told I have 30 days to pay $421.30 to avoid any violations.
The Dollar amount didnt seem right to me. I researched the amount of times that I went through the tollbooths and found that the amount was doubled. I contacted the tollway again to ask why. I was told that since my I-Pass had insufficient funds that the toll would be $1.00 as if I was a cash payer. I pleaded my case that the I-Pass having insufficient funds was a result of the Illinois Tollway not updating my account properly.
If I wanted to present my reasoning to the tollway I had to request a hearing, which I did.
My hearing was dated after my first set of fines needed to be paid. At the hearing I was told that I should have received a notice months prior. I stated that the tollway had my address from 5 years prior. Attorney Shelly Webb Jr. who was overseeing the hearing for the Illinois Tollway told me that the tollway used the Illinois Secretary of State to update addresses for notification. My current drivers license was issued on 12/14/07 so I know they should have had my current information. I do register my vehicle every year so they had plenty of time to update their records. I stated at the hearing that the tolls were doubled because of a clerical error made in June. They said there was nothing they could do, and I should go talk to the cashier. I found that to be strange and so did the cashier. She was nice enough to direct me to a gentleman named Pete in the hallway. Pete was a supervisor and said the only course I had was to contact a supervisor via the Toll Ways 1-800 number. I called the 800 number when I returned home and was put on a call back list. 3 days later a received a call from the Illinois Tollway. I ask if I was speaking with a supervisor and they said no. A supervisor would not handle my request.
I was unsure how to go forward. I contacted the tollway again to offer the full payment of $421.30 and was told that since I waited so long there were fines and penalties. I originally received a notice stating that I needed to pay fines and tolls totaling $8,921.30. I reduced that amount to the $421.30. They told me that since I did not attend my hearing I needed to pay a $27,331.30 judgment that will be in collections. I did attend the hearing but they state they have no record of it. Even though I told them who was overseeing the hearing and the fact that Shelly Webb Jr. told us when the hearing started that we would be recorded. I was confused and stunned.
I contacted my attorney Patricia Kraft. She pleaded my case to Christine Ben at the Illinois Toll Way. We made an offer to the Toll way again in the amount of $421.30. In detail as I am now to you, we explained the communications as they occurred. The Illinois Toll Way declined our offer and insisted that we pay a settlement of $2,381.30. We would not be able to make payments, and if we declined the offer they would garnish our wages, suspend both our driver licenses, a judgment on our credit report and they would put a lien on our house.
We did not have $2300.00 and nor do I now have $27,331.00 but then again neither do most people here hat live in Illinois. I had property taxes coming up, and our second child on the way. My husband travel 35 miles one way to work, and I do not want to put my career at risk. I have been blessed to work for the same company for the past ten years. My family is barely squeaking by now, and we just do not know whom else to turn to. Is there anyone out there that is doing a class action lawsuit or if there is an attorney that can help it would be greatly appreciated. There are other people that are in the same predictment as usand we need to get our point across, and maybe someone will agree that just a clerical error can cost someone as much as $27,000 , losing their home, garnishing their wages and suspending their license come on this is ridiculous. I have been using the I-Pass since 2001. I have never had my account in bad standings. I have always used auto replenish and never had a problem. This one occurrence on one day in June has snowballed out of control.
Again if there is anyone out there that can direct us in the right direction it would be great. It is so wrong for hard working people to be taken advantage of....
Thanks!
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Search Tips#1 Author of original report
Wrong information or just plain crooked...
AUTHOR: Laura - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, March 05, 2013
So what you are saying is that it is totally fine and legal for the Tollway to take advantage of people? I did have 2 working transponders at the time this happened. I was not aware that my 2 transponders had 2 different accounts. So the point is when I did call to update the information they only updated one account. I always had auto replenish and I kept receiving emails daily from them saying that my CC was declined. Every time I called I had the e-mail from them directly in front of me they continued to tell me that my account was okay and said it must be a glitch in their system. So after this kept continuing they couldn't of checked if I had 2 accounts? Instead they would rather ignore the problem and let the fines to continue to rack up. I never received any notices until they became a violation. When we asked they gave us the address of an address we haven't lived at. Wait I thought the notices and violation go to the address of where the plate is registered with the Sec of State? Then they continue to state that my husband never showed up to the hearing. Gee imagine that the they are the ones that can't get the story straight because as soon as I got the media involved to investigate they came back and said oh yes he did show up. They also told the investigators that we were suppose to have been offered a payment plan. According to the letter I have from the Tollway Authority it states that payment plans will not even be considered.
The problem is they are corrupt and stealing from people. They are held accountable for any wrong doing.
I am sorry that you agree with the tollway
#2 UPDATE Employee
Your information is wrong.
AUTHOR: Kevin - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, June 19, 2012
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"June of 2008 I had to report our bankcard stolen. Our bankcard was linked to our I-Pass account. I contacted I-Pass over the phone to make sure our accounts were updated. The tollway advised us that everything was updated and thanked us for the call. A few days later we started to receive e-mails stating our account was low. We again contacted I-pass
to inquire why the auto-replenish was not taking affect. They replied that we had sufficient funds, and that we should not be receiving anymore e-mails. This trend continued for a few weeks. I continued to contact I-pass, and they would give the same response. Soon a person at the Illinois Tollway advised us to disregard the e-mails.
A few months passed and we realized that the auto replenish was still not taking money out of our account. We were in the holiday season, and my downfall was waiting a little to long to contact the tollway again. When I contacted the tollway they gave me the same response that I received back in June. I argued with them that something had to be wrong. I advised them they need to look at both accounts in my name. Problem found. My account showed that I had not paid a toll since June when the bankcard was reported stolen. I inquired why I had not received any notice from the tollway. They stated that the address they had on file was from my townhouse 5 years prior. I gave them my information so that they could send me the violations. I was told I have 30 days to pay $421.30 to avoid any violations."
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Ok first off based off what is written here you only advised the IPASS CSR of 1 account, you admit that you called in several times to check this account and it was updated, why did you wait multiple months before advising them of your second account, (also be aware you can combine these accounts in an effort to make things eaiser) at this point you are on on shared balance and one account to maintain. Your tolls went unpaid for multiple months and you need to pay for those tolls at this time.
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"The Dollar amount didnt seem right to me. I researched the amount of times that I went through the tollbooths and found that the amount was doubled. I contacted the tollway again to ask why. I was told that since
my I-Pass had insufficient funds that the toll would be $1.00 as if I was a cash payer. I pleaded my case that the I-Pass having insufficient funds was a result of the Illinois Tollway not updating my account properly."
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Your IPASS terms and conditions states this exact scenario, Term 17--"If your I-PASS balance falls below $0.00 and a
Toll Violation Notice is issued for the unpaid tolls, you will be charged the cash rate for the toll transactions...." this issue is fully supported by your agreement.
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"Attorney Shelly Webb Jr. who was overseeing the hearing for the Illinois Tollway told me that the tollway used the Illinois Secretary of State to update addresses for notification. My current drivers license was issued on 12/14/07 so I know they should have had my current information."
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Shelly is absolutely correct, the Illinois Tollway uses your vehicle registration address to track you for notices, these are violations, NOT Ipass accounts. TERM 5 of your IPASS subsection IV-"You agree to Promptly notify the Tollway of changes mailing address credit card number and/or expiration dates and/or any other information required to keep your I-PASS account in good standing.", better put It's your responsibility to update this, not the Tollways.
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"They said there was nothing they could do, and I should go talk to the cashier. I found that to be strange and so did the cashier. She was nice enough to direct me to a gentleman named Pete in the hallway. Pete was a supervisor and said the only course I had was to contact a supervisor via the Toll Ways 1-800 number."
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There is nothing strange about this issue, the hearing officer actually was attempting to spare you what you ultimately did anyway, Had you scheduled a hearing and proceeded you would have lost, the point of a hearing is to prove liability not fight for negotiation of amounts, it states on the notice and on the website that if you are deemed liable at a hearing you no longer are elgible for a settlement of any kind, the officer was trying to have you pay your tolls before your hearing placed you liable.
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"They told me that since I did not attend my hearing I needed to pay a $27,331.30 judgment that will be in collections. I did attend the hearing but they state they have no record of it"
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This price along side the $8,000 was the full amount because you failed to pay at your hearing, the reason it shows you didn't attend your hearing is because you didn't, you were given a chance to instead attend that ruling to pay the tolls and avoid being held liable, you instead admit to not paying but leaving the facility, you are then held liable by default and owe the amount of the tolls. Show or no show you would have been liable. so the issue of what them stating you showed or not is irrelevant.
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"We would not be able to make payments, and if we declined the offer they would garnish our wages, suspend both our driver licenses, a judgment on our credit report and they would put a lien on our house."
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The tollway holds the right to suspend your license and vehicle registration and send a report to collections, typically they don't choose to do the suspensions unless it sits to long, Call the collections and work out a payment plan, in order to make this go away you must start working with the Tollway over your debt or your debt will continue to increase, also they can't garnish wages or place a lien on your house as far as I know.
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One other this you can attempt to do is file for a economic hardship with a non-standard settlement, it's a form avalible online http://www.illinoistollway.com/documents/10157/15874/SETTLEMENT_REQUEST.pdf click the link here for assistance, I can't say it will work but it's a push in the correct direction.
#3 Consumer Comment
Contact the media in your state for help
AUTHOR: MovingForward - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, March 27, 2011
I don't understand how this $421.30 debt can balloon to $27k in less than 3 years. I'm sure the media would be interested in hearing about how the tollway authority is tacking on thousands of dollars for an error made in June 2008. It just does not sound right.
Now, as to the tollway authority having the wrong address, isn't there a place right on their site to update your personal information? Usually there is a way to update your address, your auto registration, your auto tags, your credit card info etc right on the site. It takes about five minutes to keep your info current. IMO it is your responsibilty to make sure your contact info is kept current with the various state and federal agencies.
HOWEVER, it also appears to me that the Illinois Tollway Authority has taken this small clerical error and blown it way out of proportion. If you get the media involved in an investigation and audit of the tollway authority, its possible they may accept your offer of the actual debt plus some reasonable amount for interest and penalties. Its also possible that other abuses by the system will be found.

