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  • Submitted: Mon, February 17, 2014
  • Updated: Thu, November 13, 2014

  • Reported By: John McAlister — Perth Other
InnovationSquare.com.au
Internet Australia

InnovationSquare.com.au Franky Tjhin Stole My Money $4800 AUD Riverstone Australia

*Consumer Suggestion: Questionable Authenticity Of RipOff Reports?!

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: 2nd Rebuttal of TF's unreliable, untrustworthy, and dishonest & distorted false and malicious claims.

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: 2nd Rebuttal of TF's unreliable, untrustworthy, and dishonest & distorted false and malicious claims.

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: This Report is a Hoax. Complainant is most likely a competitor.

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: John McAlister - who are you?

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I ordered one of those stupid chairs of InnovationSquare.com.au and it was never even shipped, they kept my money, fought my chargeback and won.

 Franky continually avoids my many requests for the product to be shipped. To top it off my bloody credit card was fraudlently used after I ordered from InnovationSquare. It's a credit card I never use except for maybe once or twice a year for big purchases and the credit card number was stolen right after I made this order on www.InnovationSquare.com.au. You do do the math!!!!

I've found numerous complaints his chairs break and he provides NO warranty servive whatsoever! All I want is my $4800 AUD back at this point!

Please .... Franky Tjhin ... return my money!!!


This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 02/17/2014 03:40 AM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/InnovationSquarecomau/internet/InnovationSquarecomau-Franky-Tjhin-Stole-My-Money-4800-AUD-Riverstone-Australia-1124085. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 Consumer Suggestion

Questionable Authenticity Of RipOff Reports?!

AUTHOR: Mal - (Australia)

Re Tjhin Franky pronounced as Gin Franky by him and John Mc Aliser also known as John Mahoney,

Please see attachment Re John Mc Aliser also known as John Mahoney. These two postings did not appear on my previous searches of John Mc Aliser and Tjhin Franky but only appeared today even though they are stated by Ripoff to have been posted from two different states in the USA on 30 Aug and 14th Sep 2014 that I am very confused and am inclined to suspect that these are all from Tjhin Franky masquerading under different names. Based on interactions with TF over the past 18 months, I suspect that he may have tried to seek publicity from the Ripoff website that a competitor named John Mc Alister was making a false claim for $4,800.00. This may have backfired on him by my trying to help this J McAlister that he may be continuing with this charade and farce.

I came to through a reliable person that a woman was using twenty different identities on facebook to be LIKED and Reassured for ego. Could it also be true of this Gin Franky? Are not such people the undermining Rip-off’s credibility and usefulness? Should you’ll not improve this system to double and verify the truer identify of a person without accepting whatever they may claim under any bogus name or pretexts for free publicity?

 

Yours truly,

M  Spencer

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#2 REBUTTAL Owner of company

2nd Rebuttal of TF's unreliable, untrustworthy, and dishonest & distorted false and malicious claims.

AUTHOR: Mal - ()

As TF has insultingly and maliciously stated my name here whilst John Mc Alister is silent, there is need for the following improved rebuttal to be present here as none of the attachments I sent too are made available to reading public that re-emphasises the need to not leave this space vacant and/or Rip-Off should get JOhn Mc Alister to respond.

 

Please note the following responses to TF point by point and it would be better appreciated if Rip-off would make all my attachments too available to this rebuttal of the 9th of Nov 2014. TF is also falsely insinuating that I am also the other original complainant Mr c John McAlister, from Perth as it was seeing his complaint that made me respond in this manner to help him. Had only TF abided by his original terms and conditions none of this would have to transpire wasting much time and effort of many people and I suspect that after all this TF would need to change his name and/or his company name to continue with his dishonest antics to fleece more unsuspecting customers as neither he nor his assistant would name one customer for me to talk to prior to trying renegotiate even after PayPal endorsed returning. Should TF not withdraw or apologise for all these misdeeds, I will be forced to take him to a higher court on charges of deformation.

 

1.This customer by the name of Mahulchandran or Mal c Spencer have been abusing all our staff since day one using ridiculous excuses.

I am not really a customer of TF as he refers to as I have not bought anything from TF rather a much disappointed, angry and frustrated at the amount of time and effort wasted. I being a onetime purchaser of only an item which had to be returned based on an independent technical report as well as due to TF’s misleading and untrustworthy claims that Pay-Pal found it proper for me to return the purchase but despite Pay-pals fairness I went out of the way and tried hard to accommodate TF and work-out something with TF but his never ending incompetence, hubris and arrogance of never ever speaking to me over the telephone and only twice his one only assistant or help-mate calling himself as John responded stating that TF had gone to China. Part of or if not most of the correspondences that Rip-off has made available on this speak for themselves as whether they are really ridiculous excuses as TF would like to label it.

 2.Mahulchandran or Mal c Spencer abused not just us, he abused PayPal customer service, he abused the courier guys, and he emailed us hundreds of emails including a lot of respectable professors and doctors.

The above is sample of his untrustworthy, misleading dishonest and bombastic false claims to prejudice people against me and will Rip-off please ask him substantiate with evidence. Yet this apparently hearsay claim also indicates that he has some informal and back-door exaggerated and falsified information given to him by some unscrupulous staff at the Victorian Civil & Administrative Tribunal who are aware of my struggles for truth, fairness & justice that have been frustrated by the adversarial system of justice that initially crafted for the robber barons of England in the 11th century. Please visit and read http://abetterlegalsystem.info    and  judicialwatch.org.au/article/book-review-evan-whittons-our-corrupt-legal-system  netk.net.au/WhittonHome.asp  PayPal was apparently disappointed with me for trying to override their decision and direction and my trying to renegotiate with TF that PayPal blocked me from submitting my transport receipt within the then allotted time of about 40 days and tried to not refund the money I had paid to PayPal but subsequently wiser counsel prevailed on my appeal and they refunded and have recently extended the dispute period to 180 days for all customers.

3. Going back to Mahulchandran or Mal c Spencer's issue, he even got a 3rd party independent report confirming there is NOTHING wrong with the item that was purchased.

The above is yet another dishonest and false claim that exposes the lack of his intelligence, honesty, integrity and ability of TF trying to claim that even PayPal are fools compared to his bloated intelligence when in reality all these are the consequence of him being driven by his baser and not the nobler instincts.

4. On the hearing date, Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal (VCAT) went through Spencer's evidence thoroughly and within minutes they dismissed Spencer's claim.

5. The tribunal members all unanimously agree that Innovation Square has done nothing wrong, and is a respectable business.

6. Since then, Spencer have been abusing not just innovation square members, but now the VCAT team as well.

 

The above three assertions too are yet more  dishonest and false claim of TF, as  when I filed this application in October 2013 to recover from him the technical report and return transport costs that would have been lesser had he kept to his terms and conditions. After many postponements and manipulations by TF with either influence from the business class and/or money/goods  On 22nd April 2014 a partisan and partial and apparently corrupt member one Robert Buchanan (RB) refused to see the receipts I gave him in a message stick as the VCAT had removed them it from  my application case file No C85578/2013 that comprised of two, two inch thick files with many superfluous duplicates and triplicates of TFs product literature along with procedural unfairness and violations of VCAT’s own rules and guide lines TF was given favoured and special treatment and allowed an audio connection for RB to only ask him to pronounce his name as JIN and acted as his counsel and tried to go outside of the mandate of my application that he had to be reminded repeatedly as to what this application was really about. RB even foolishly tried override PayPal such is the state of justice in this state. An appeal is pending with the Vic AG’s office and the Minister of Justice for Victoria as the VCAT too has corrupt practices to inquire into the corrupt practices of its members and staff and not report it anywhere even statistically and are shielding themselves secrecy and privacy for their own staff survival and thrival at the Victorian tax-payers’ expense.

 

7. Pointing out the truth and exposing unfairness and injustice like this Rip-off website is not abuse instead it’s a great service to mankind to name, shame, expose humbugs and evil villains who are ever willing to make a fast buck at the expense of the unsuspecting and trusting public that needs to constantly re-educated by all and sundry at all times like what rip-off is doing is what I have been doing from my 17th year to my present 70th year and to-date and go on to do until my last breath.

 

8. Should TF not withdraw or apologise for all these falsehoods, misdeeds and character assassinations, I will be forced to take him to a higher court on charges of deformation.

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#3 REBUTTAL Owner of company

2nd Rebuttal of TF's unreliable, untrustworthy, and dishonest & distorted false and malicious claims.

AUTHOR: Mal - ()

Review Your Report   http://www.netk.net.au/WhittonHome.au

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2nd Rebuttal of TF's unreliable, untrustworthy, and dishonest & distorted false and malicious claims.

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Please note the following responses to TF point by point and it would be better appreciated if Rip-off would make all my attachments too available to this rebuttal of the 9th of Nov 2014. TF is also falsely insinuating that I am also the other original complainant Mr c John McAlister, from Perth as it was seeing his complaint that made me respond in this manner to help him. Had only TF abided by his original terms and conditions none of this would have to transpire wasting much time and effort of many people and I suspect that after all this TF would need to change his name and/or his company name to continue with his dishonest antics to fleece more unsuspecting customers as neither he nor his assistant would name one customer for me to talk to prior to trying renegotiate even after PayPal endorsed returning. Should TF not withdraw or apologise for all these misdeeds, I will be forced to take him to a higher court on charges of deformation.

 1.This customer by the name of Mahulchandran or Mal c Spencer have been abusing all our staff since day one using ridiculous excuses.

I am not really a customer of TF as he refers to as I have not bought anything from TF rather a much disappointed, angry and frustrated at the amount of time and effort wasted. I being a onetime purchaser of only an item which had to be returned based on an independent technical report as well as due to TF’s misleading and untrustworthy claims that Pay-Pal found it proper for me to return the purchase but despite Pay-pals fairness I went out of the way and tried hard to accommodate TF and work-out something with TF but his never ending incompetence, hubris and arrogance of never ever speaking to me over the telephone and only twice his one only assistant or help-mate calling himself as John responded stating that TF had gone to China. Part of or if not most of the correspondences that Rip-off has made available on this speak for themselves as whether they are really ridiculous excuses as TF would like to label it.

 2.Mahulchandran or Mal c Spencer abused not just us, he abused PayPal customer service, he abused the courier guys, and he emailed us hundreds of emails including a lot of respectable professors and doctors.

The above is sample of his untrustworthy, misleading dishonest and bombastic false claims to prejudice people against me and will Rip-off please ask him substantiate with evidence. Yet this apparently hearsay claim also indicates that he has some informal and back-door exaggerated and falsified information given to him by some unscrupulous staff at the Victorian Civil & Administrative Tribunal who are aware of my struggles for truth, fairness & justice that have been frustrated by the adversarial system of justice that initially crafted for the robber barons of England in the 11th century. Please visit and read http://abetterlegalsystem.info    and  http://www.judicialwatch.org.au/article/book-review-evan-whittons-our-corrupt-legal-system  http://www.netk.net.au/WhittonHome.asp  PayPal was apparently disappointed with me for trying to override their decision and direction and my trying to renegotiate with TF that PayPal blocked me from submitting my transport receipt within the then allotted time of about 40 days and tried to not refund the money I had paid to PayPal but subsequently wiser counsel prevailed on my appeal and they refunded and have recently extended the dispute period to 180 days for all customers.

3. Going back to Mahulchandran or Mal c Spencer's issue, he even got a 3rd party independent report confirming there is NOTHING wrong with the item that was purchased.

The above is yet another dishonest and false claim that exposes the lack of his intelligence, honesty, integrity and ability of TF trying to claim that even PayPal are fools compared to his bloated intelligence when in reality all these are the consequence of him being driven by his baser and not the nobler instincts.

4. On the hearing date, Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal (VCAT) went through Spencer's evidence thoroughly and within minutes they dismissed Spencer's claim.

5. The tribunal members all unanimously agree that Innovation Square has done nothing wrong, and is a respectable business.

6. Since then, Spencer have been abusing not just innovation square members, but now the VCAT team as well.

 The above three assertions too are yet more  dishonest and false claim of TF, as  when I filed this application in October 2013 to recover from him the technical report and return transport costs that would have been lesser had he kept to his terms and conditions. After many postponements and manipulations by TF with either influence from the business class and/or money/goods  On 22nd April 2014 a partisan and partial and apparently corrupt member one Robert Buchanan (RB) refused to see the receipts I gave him in a message stick as the VCAT had removed them it from  my application case file No C85578/2013 that comprised of two, two inch thick files with many superfluous duplicates and triplicates of TFs product literature along with procedural unfairness and violations of VCAT’s own rules and guide lines TF was given favoured and special treatment and allowed an audio connection for RB to only ask him to pronounce his name as JIN and acted as his counsel and tried to go outside of the mandate of my application that he had to be reminded repeatedly as to what this application was really about. RB even foolishly tried override PayPal such is the state of justice in this state. An appeal is pending with the Vic AG’s office and the Minister of Justice for Victoria as the VCAT too has corrupt practices to inquire into the corrupt practices of its members and staff and not report it anywhere even statistically and are shielding themselves secrecy and privacy for their own staff survival and thrival at the Victorian tax-payers’ expense.

7. Pointing out the truth and exposing unfairness and injustice like this Rip-off website is not abuse instead it’s a great service to mankind to name, shame, expose humbugs and evil villains who are ever willing to make a fast buck at the expense of the unsuspecting and trusting public that needs to constantly re-educated by all and sundry at all times like what rip-off is doing is what I have been doing from my 17th year to my present 70th year and to-date and go on to do until my last breath.

8. Should TF not withdraw or apologise for all these falsehoods, misdeeds and character assassinations, I will be forced to take him to a higher court on charges of deformation.

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#4 REBUTTAL Owner of company

This Report is a Hoax. Complainant is most likely a competitor.

AUTHOR: innovation Square - ()

This Report is a Hoax. Complainant is most likely a competitor. Until today, we have had no contact from 'John McAlister'.

John, if that is even your real name, please provide us with the following to support your claim:
1. Valid tax invoice showing what you bought, when you bought it, with signature of the sales person
2. Your credit card statement showing that innovation Square did charge you payment for your 'purchase'
3. Further credit card statements showing that innovation Square fraudulently charged your credit cards without your approval.
4. Statement from your bank showing that you successfully claimed a chargeback. (Obviously you won't have this if you can't even show point no.1-3)
5. Email history screenshots with timestamps, clearly showing your conversation between yourself, 'John McAlister', and an innovation Square representative.

In your complaint we see no such documents, further proving that this report is a false report created possibly by a competitor claiming to be a customer.

We look forward to your documents, otherwise this case is now closed and this report is dismissed as a false report, aiming to defame our business and our manager.

We welcome readers to contact us for any questions on hello@innovationsquare.com.au

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#5 REBUTTAL Individual responds

John McAlister - who are you?

AUTHOR: innovation Square - ()

John McAlister,

Who are you?

You claim to be a customer from Perth with the name of 'John McAlister'.

We've looked into our database, and we have NONE by the name of 'John McAlister'.
If you are indeed a legitimate customer whom we 'stole' $4800 from, why didn't you go through the normal legal channel, such as Australian Fair Trading? Why have you decided to write a report on an American online report where you have no chance of getting your money back legally?
If we did 'steal' $4800 from you, we would be hearing about this first thing from Australian Fair Trading. They'd be knocking on our door immediately and demanding an explanation, and if they don't get one, they will immediately shut us down.
Surprisingly, we've had NO contact from Australian Fair Trading / ACCC / Australian Police regarding a matter concerning 'John McAlister'.

So 'John McAlister', who are you really?

 

This report is being quoted by 'Mahulchandran or Mal.C.Spencer'. A deranged and abusive old man who has been abusing and stalking one of our manager here in Innovation Square since 2013.

I suspect this report is also made by Mahul in an attempt to fabricate a complaint by a non-existing individual.

Mr. Spencer, if this report was falsely made by you, you can be sure that our lawyers will be in touch with you.

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