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Complaint Review: International Bodyguard Network - Omni Institute - Samurai Warrior

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  • Submitted: Tue, May 19, 2009
  • Updated: Thu, September 15, 2011

  • Reported By:Bedford Heights Ohio
International Bodyguard Network - Omni Institute - Samurai Warrior
99 Trophy Club Dr Trophy Club, Texas U.S.A.

International Bodyguard Network - Omni Institute - Samurai Warrior cloak and dagger operations scam Trophy Club Texas

*General Comment: Good Course & Legit Company

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Craig Mulligan

*General Comment: wow

*General Comment: Reply to "Owner"

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: PSI and IBN

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Response to Lillian

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Reply to #8

*UPDATE Employee: IBN & Protection Services

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: IBN WEBSITE

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Protection Services Unlimited

*Consumer Comment: IBN

*Consumer Comment: Protection Services Unlimited (615) 228 5037

*Author of original report: Poof Be Gone

*Consumer Suggestion: mack harper,

*Consumer Suggestion: mack harper,

*Consumer Suggestion: mack harper,

*Consumer Suggestion: mack harper,

*Consumer Comment: To Ashley

*Consumer Comment: so

*Author of original report: Response to Ashley

*Consumer Suggestion: Point?

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*Consumer Suggestion: Point?

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Website says International Bodyguard Network is a sister company of Samurai Incorporated out of Las Vegas NV. The State of NV has never heard of these guys. Another Company that the website says is a totally seperate entity Omni Institute is actually owned by the same individual Jack Bucklin, this company is incorportated in NV but was not incorporated when the web-site states it was.

This group of individuals have listed many DBA's for Samurai probably trying to hide the fact that they are taking your money and running. I have not personally lost money with this company this information is just based on the research I have done.

The BBB has tried to conatact Mr. Mack Harper From IBN and he gave them this response.

On January 21, 2009, BBB requested IBN's voluntary cooperation in providing BBB with background information on the firm in order to assist BBB in creating a Reliability Report
BBB Definition:

Report - A summary of activity reflected in a company's BBB file. Includes basic business background, BBB Accreditation information, and BBB complaint activity over the previous three years. Also reports may include any known government actions, advertising issues BBB Definition:

advertising issues - Claims alleging print or electronic media advertised claims or practices misrepresent the service or product offer.
or other information that results from activity conducted by BBB.
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On January 29, 2009, Mack Harper from International Bodyguard Network replied: "Philosophically, and this is personal, I do not care to provide information to any organization concerning any of the companies I am associated with, and your intent to compile a report concerning us is not appreciated."


These remarks do not sound like someone operating a legitimate business.

Richard
Bedford Heights, Ohio
U.S.A.

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 05/19/2009 01:02 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/International-Bodyguard-Network-Omni-Institute-Samurai-Warrior/Trophy-Club-Texas/International-Bodyguard-Network-Omni-Institute-Samurai-Warrior-cloak-and-dagger-operat-453373. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 General Comment

Good Course & Legit Company

AUTHOR: Ghost - (United States of America)

I can attest to my personal experience with these companies.  Years ago (actually in 2003) I took a course through OMNI Institute on "Theory of Non-confrontational Protection" and was presented the Certificate of Protection Theory. Subsequently, I received a certification from the IBN recognizing me as a member in good standing.  The coursework was phenomenal. In addition to the coursework, upon successful completion I received my dossier with business cards, stationary templates and marketing materials.  My website was up and running as well.  I was pleased with the course and organizations.  You can go to internationalbodyguardnetwork.com and under their Directory you will still find me under Michigan, Jason R. I was not notified about the change in ownership/management and my original URL is down but I will be contacting them to have my profile updated and my URL back up and live.  I will still state this this course was worth every penny!  I personally do not feel that anybody should take a course if he/she has no background for this type of work but rather to take it for the credentials and for the networking & possible job opportunities.  Even for veterans with combat experience, I would personally highly recommend this course. I am by no means a novice in any respect. I stumbled across this posting and I normally do not even post replies about anything whether it's personal or business related. However, I did not want the masses misinformed.  I recommend this course and this is from my own experience...Best of Luck to anybody entering this profession and with all of your future endeavors.
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#2 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Craig Mulligan

AUTHOR: Protection Services Unlimited - (USA)

Craig,  First of all the training you receive is not a DVD.  Your listening skills are lacking... You receive a CD based on bodyguard protocol.  Everything you need to know to work a low risk assignment.  Our company would not send someone out on a high risk assignment unless they were qualified to do so.  Most military personnel are suited for such assignments.  They learn those skills elsewhere. Or individuals that graduated from a bodyguard training facility.  We have clients that just need escorts to and from  or want to hire bodyguards for special events.... they are not considered high risk and our training is sufficient enough for those types of jobs.  Just to let everyone know.  International Bodyguard network is no longer ran by Jack Bucklin.
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#3 General Comment

wow

AUTHOR: Craig Mulligan - (United States of America)

Ha.... you've got to be kidding me.  I just got out of the Army, did about 6 years in the infantry including work as part of a personal security detachment for brigade level leadership so I thought that the private security sector would be an easy switch.

Then I talked to the lady over the phone and when she said " you pay a fee and we send you training videos with which you will certify", it seemed really strange to me.  I'm sorry but if I'm a team leader for the person for which security is provided I want a more qualified person than someone who is trained via DVD.

Is IBN a scam???  I have no idea although at the very least they maintain bad work practices.  TO OWNER:  If you'd like to establish a workable method with which to train your workers let me know, but until you establish something else, I'm not working for you and neither will any one in the military community that actually carried a rifle in a combat situation.

To the vet that mistakenly recieved that email....  I would take that email to the newspapers and media..... noone like a business that insults those that serve the nation.

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#4 General Comment

Reply to "Owner"

AUTHOR: Kickinazz - (United States of America)

That web address is not working!!  Got another?
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#5 REBUTTAL Owner of company

PSI and IBN

AUTHOR: Protection Services Unlimited - (United States of America)

First of all "Donatella"...; If it took you a year and a half to get a website put up then its because it took you that long to finish your 9 page membership paperwork and finish your training.  Websites take no longer than 10 days to post... If I have to build it or with in a few days if you build one.  I don't have anyone in our data base that has that name  that has actually completed everything.  If you give your real name and "do" have a website up... I will gladly remove it from our website as well as the IBN's.    try and respond quicker than the time you took completing your paperwork...  By the way... get your facts straight... Kim is my sister not sister in law.   We are a family ran business.  If you cant get those details straight then mabe working as a bodyguard is not for you... BG's need good observation and good listening skills.. you don't have neither...If you have been contacted by any clients and still have not gone to work yet... then maybe they also see you are lacking in these skills as well.
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#6 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Response to Lillian

AUTHOR: Donnatella - (United States of America)

Lillian look at the date this was submitte it took you almost a year to reply to it and this is the exact same way you handle your business, I did complete your trainning and I did send you the certificate and for a couple of months you answered my calls and then Kim stepped in and I never got to talk to you and you never returned my phone calls so I learned my lesson don't spend money with people like you.
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#7 UPDATE EX-employee responds

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AUTHOR: Donnatella - (United States of America)

Number 8 whoever you are When you do a business and you state that you are incorporated under Samarai Warrior in the state of Nevada and they have never heard of you. The word incorporated does not mean DBA. Also when you state that the two business are not related and then you find out the same person owns both of them and one offers trainning for the other I think that makes them related.

Learn what your talking about its not about a DBA

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#8 UPDATE Employee

IBN & Protection Services

AUTHOR: Donnatella - (United States of America)

Ok I have paid money to these people well over a year ago, it took them that long to get a website for me, as for Protection services they are a joke, Lillian ever returns a call she has Kim running block for her, when I started this venture there was another lady there that got let go. Kim is Lillians sister in law or something like that.

As for the gentleman who made the stupid comment about DBA's I don't know where you live but where I live if you have a DBA it is also filed with the state, and as for the BBB yes they are not a government entity but if you want to build a credit report for your business you use them or you use D&B.

This company is a ripp off, I know of at least 4 other people that have contacted me about this company with the same problem.

So if you think you can get into this field through IBN or Protection service thin again spend the money and go to ESI, and before you ask no I did not go to ESI they are just the best school to attend I just didn't have the money.

Oh and by the way when I started this IBN said they would actively seek employment for you and now they do not they jost post you and thats it.

Enjoy the IBN

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#9 REBUTTAL Owner of company

IBN WEBSITE

AUTHOR: Protection Services Unlimited - (United States of America)

Richard,  The information you gave about the IBn's website is fasle... they have a new website.  www.internationalbodyguardnetwork.com   they have not dissapeared yet  and is growing everyday thanks to PSU...
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#10 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Protection Services Unlimited

AUTHOR: Protection Services Unlimited - (United States of America)

First of all... have you completed your training program and sent us your certificate... You have not been offered an employment contract because you have not followed through with your obligation...  Call Kim with customer service and we will continue this journey for you if you are still interested...  If you felt like you have not gotten what you paid for then you should have contacted us.. Thats who you paid...correct???  Call and lets find out exactly where you stand with your paperwork and see what else has to be done in order for you to go to work.  615-228-1750.
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#11 Consumer Comment

IBN

AUTHOR: Protection Services Unlimited - (United States of America)

You state that you never lost any money from this organization... It is truly unfair that you would classify them as a scam company..  Have you checked out how much it would cost you to have someone build  you a website..it can cost up to $1000 or more and their offer to charge $355 for that service is quite generous.  The BBB is a privately owned company.. it is not a government entity what so ever... Why should anyone provide private information about  companies they do businesses with..  it is not the law that everyone must share all business practices with the BBB.  if that was the case... our government would be in a lot of trouble...  The BBB also has a reputation for printing false information and I know this from personal experience.. even though you send them documentaion of the correct information  They still refuse to change it because you dont pay their annual membership fe..  Now that sounds like a scam organization to me...  Is it against the law to own and operate more than one business at a time...NO!!!  What is your point.  In many places on the internet it  state that i have  numerous DBA names... Am I a scam...NO...  It is obvious that people reporting information about my company do not even know the correct name of the Business.  Is that my fault...  NO...  what I suggest... don't run down a company until you know all the facts  and it is clear that you DO NOT!!!
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#12 Consumer Comment

Protection Services Unlimited (615) 228 5037

AUTHOR: James - (U.S.A.)

I found this company, "Protection Services Unlimited". They offer an Omni Institute Certificate and are affiliated with International Bodyguard Institute. I don't send money without a background check. They called me. Thus far I have found nothing to indicate they are not who they say they are.
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#13 Author of original report

Poof Be Gone

AUTHOR: Richard - (U.S.A.)

As of todays date the IBN website has disappeared, it disappeared about 2 weeks ago and has not come back. Everything is gone.
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#14 Consumer Suggestion

mack harper,

AUTHOR: Scott - (U.S.A.)

I bought the bodyguard pkg, I never received no employment contract, an everytime I try to get ahold of Mack Harper,he never gets back with me. Part of my pkg.stated I would receive one! Beware! There's others working with this piece of s**t! Namely protectection services unlimited of tenn, owner lillian hernandez!When I tried to go around Lillian,to get to Mack,He screwed up an sent me a e-mail by mistake, It was supposed to go to her,in the e-mail I stated I was a Vet. an have excellent military background, an wanted to go to Iraq or Afghanistan, He e-mailed her an said send him over there the first time he hears a A K he will come crying home! I would like to see his background, he sounds like a wanna-be soldier! He inspires to go by the samurai teaching,but I believe he nothing but a no-good scam artist! taking advantage of our Vets If I could put my hand around his neck I would squeeze this piece of s**t, until he gave back every cent he has taking from everybody!
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#15 Consumer Suggestion

mack harper,

AUTHOR: Scott - (U.S.A.)

I bought the bodyguard pkg, I never received no employment contract, an everytime I try to get ahold of Mack Harper,he never gets back with me. Part of my pkg.stated I would receive one! Beware! There's others working with this piece of s**t! Namely protectection services unlimited of tenn, owner lillian hernandez!When I tried to go around Lillian,to get to Mack,He screwed up an sent me a e-mail by mistake, It was supposed to go to her,in the e-mail I stated I was a Vet. an have excellent military background, an wanted to go to Iraq or Afghanistan, He e-mailed her an said send him over there the first time he hears a A K he will come crying home! I would like to see his background, he sounds like a wanna-be soldier! He inspires to go by the samurai teaching,but I believe he nothing but a no-good scam artist! taking advantage of our Vets If I could put my hand around his neck I would squeeze this piece of s**t, until he gave back every cent he has taking from everybody!
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#16 Consumer Suggestion

mack harper,

AUTHOR: Scott - (U.S.A.)

I bought the bodyguard pkg, I never received no employment contract, an everytime I try to get ahold of Mack Harper,he never gets back with me. Part of my pkg.stated I would receive one! Beware! There's others working with this piece of s**t! Namely protectection services unlimited of tenn, owner lillian hernandez!When I tried to go around Lillian,to get to Mack,He screwed up an sent me a e-mail by mistake, It was supposed to go to her,in the e-mail I stated I was a Vet. an have excellent military background, an wanted to go to Iraq or Afghanistan, He e-mailed her an said send him over there the first time he hears a A K he will come crying home! I would like to see his background, he sounds like a wanna-be soldier! He inspires to go by the samurai teaching,but I believe he nothing but a no-good scam artist! taking advantage of our Vets If I could put my hand around his neck I would squeeze this piece of s**t, until he gave back every cent he has taking from everybody!
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#17 Consumer Suggestion

mack harper,

AUTHOR: Scott - (U.S.A.)

I bought the bodyguard pkg, I never received no employment contract, an everytime I try to get ahold of Mack Harper,he never gets back with me. Part of my pkg.stated I would receive one! Beware! There's others working with this piece of s**t! Namely protectection services unlimited of tenn, owner lillian hernandez!When I tried to go around Lillian,to get to Mack,He screwed up an sent me a e-mail by mistake, It was supposed to go to her,in the e-mail I stated I was a Vet. an have excellent military background, an wanted to go to Iraq or Afghanistan, He e-mailed her an said send him over there the first time he hears a A K he will come crying home! I would like to see his background, he sounds like a wanna-be soldier! He inspires to go by the samurai teaching,but I believe he nothing but a no-good scam artist! taking advantage of our Vets If I could put my hand around his neck I would squeeze this piece of s**t, until he gave back every cent he has taking from everybody!
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#18 Consumer Comment

To Ashley

AUTHOR: Richard - (U.S.A.)

Hi Ashley: This is a company that tells you they don't charge you anything then say you need certain training which cost you over $200 dollars. Then after that they tell you you need to get a website, you can use them at a cost of $355 or you can have someone else do it. The only way to contact this company is via e-mail. They do have a phone number but then again the phone number tells you to e-mail them. If you get a response you will be lucky. Like I said before I am just trying to Keep others from being dupped by these folks.

I don't know you, but if I just saved you from making a $500 mistake I think you would be happy.
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#19 Consumer Comment

so

AUTHOR: Ashley - (U.S.A.)

You haven't actually been ripped off by these people? So you have no idea if they are actually a scam or not? You just have your suspicion based off of them not responding to the BBB.

I'm still not sure I see the point. Do you know someone who has been scammed by them? Can you relate what they do to scam people?
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#20 Author of original report

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AUTHOR: Richard - (U.S.A.)

Ashley: If you read the report I stated that I had not been personally ripped off by this company, I am simply trying to keep others who don't really know how to do indepth research from being taken advantage of.
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#21 Consumer Suggestion

Point?

AUTHOR: Ashley - (U.S.A.)

What was the point of this report? Were you ripped off somewhere?
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