• Report: #74653

Complaint Review: International Business Directories

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  • Submitted: Wed, December 10, 2003
  • Updated: Sun, September 26, 2004

  • Reported By:Staunton Virginia
International Business Directories
Mouyal Corporate Group Montreal, Quebec Canada

International Business Directories The Original Offshore Directory and Office Supply Scam: World Wide Source, Ameri-source, IT Data Direct are All the Same Scam Montreal Quebec

*Consumer Comment: Robert from Staunton is really Robert Kirchman, he is a criminal

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It all starts with a phone call. Someone calls about your yellow pages advertising and before you know it they are telling you that you are already obligated for some ad you never authorized in the first place. The price is usually just under $400.

Or someone calls up to do a survey of the type of office equipment you use. Then you get another call from someone pretending to be your regular supplier. They trick you into buying overpriced office supplies based on the information you gave them when they called you in the survey.

Then the invoices start coming. Often from a border town in New York,,, Yes, the perpetrators of this scam are in Canada! Welcome to the world of Cross-border directory and office supply scams.

We get a lot of these calls. Most persistent is a bunch known as World Wide Source, but they go by many names!

The whole scam seems to have begun with Michael Mouyal and Albert Mouyal, two brothers who perform the same scam but each using a different name for it. The authorities have charged them and the FTC is trying to shut down International Business Directories (the original scam) but by the time you read this it will be coming to you under a new name!

So beware of anyone who says you have a standing order with you who can't provide any paper work for it. They are frauds and YOU ARE UNDER NO LEGAL OBLIGATION TO PAY THEM! Paying them will not make them go away. Knowing they are a scam and asking THEM the right questions when they call may hasten their departure.

Robert
Staunton, Virginia
U.S.A.

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#1 Consumer Comment

Robert from Staunton is really Robert Kirchman, he is a criminal

AUTHOR: Steven - (U.S.A.)

The person who wrote this posting is a criminal!
He is a frauder, this is what I have to say about robert kirchman...the criminal-conartist-fraudster.

Robert Kirchman frauded our company by providing architectural renderings that were not his and tried to scam us out of $10,000.00!!! Luckily for us, the real illustrator was able to contact our firm, because he saw his own renderings on our website!

We have warned the New York Society of Renderers and the American Society of Architectural Illustrators as well as local law enforcement, they informed me that they were currently pursing Robert Kirchman in other matters and that they were not surprised due to his background!

Robert Kirchman also tried to get our firm to invest in a phony project based in Japan. he tried getting his hands on $100,000!

What-ever you do... do not hire this firm, they just steal from others and I also suspect that they are involved in fraudulent investment schemes. Report this con to the police!

Here is the frauders website:
members.aol.com/bkirchman/
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