- Report: #768392
Complaint Review: Island Cruisers, Inc.
| Island Cruisers, Inc. 26248 NC Highway 12
Salvo, North Carolina United States of America |
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Island Cruisers, Inc. Hatteras Island Performance These Swindlers Rent Old Unsafe Beach Vehicles on Cape Hatteras and Charge Customers for Expensive Repairs on Transmissions using the $500 Deposit. Salvo, North Carolina
*Author of original report: Trying to protect other consumers
*Consumer Comment: Complaint Not Valid or Believable
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Response From Island Cruisers Inc.
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Valerie's husband runs Hatteras Island Performance, the company that does the repair work for Island Cruisers. I believe they are probably scamming a lot of people with their setup.
Together they dropped off a vehicle for us to use on the beach, and explained all of the rules about driving it. They also had us both sign a bunch of papers, including a blank slip with the impression of my credit card. I should have been given a copy of that blank piece of paper. Because I didn't know to ask for it, I was unable to contest the charges they later billed me with using this signed blank slip. If you rent anything from them, be sure to get a copy of the slip before the total is filled out so you can prove that they added the charges at a later time. This was my biggest mistake.
Upon trying to operate the vehicle I realized that it was very old (later found out it was a 1998 Geo Tracker) and not very safe to drive. Valerie had told me over the phone that renting a 4x4 to use on the beach would be expensive because of the high cost of repairing damage to the transmissions to their vehicles. Now I know how they pay for those repairs.
The car was rusty and old, didn't handle well, had brakes that barely stopped the car, and it had problems shifting through the gears. I thought it was old and worn out. It was also the last car they said they had in their fleet and there were no other local places to get another car, so we used it anyway.
We drove the car on the beach for maybe an hour total in the whole day we were there. There was so much holiday weekend traffic out on the beach that we couldn't do anything wrong, like driving crazy or donuts or anything that we were asked not to do. We followed all of their recommendations, drove the vehicle slowly (under 15mph), in a straight line, and kept it away from wildlife and other vehicles, with the correctly lowered air pressure in the tires.
The next day we dropped it off at the airport and took off. As far as I knew, everything was fine. We expected to be charged about $300 for a 24 hour 4x4 rental plus the charges for drop-off and pick-up to the airport. We also didn't fill the gas tank, so expect some kind of $50 fee for gas or whatever.
Later the following week I opened the receipts from Island Cruisers, Inc. to find a letter from Valerie stating that we were being charged an extra $500+ (total price over $800) for damage that happened to the transmission of the vehicle while we were driving it. First of all, they put this huge charge on my credit card all at once, using the slip I had signed, so according to Capital One's and Visa's rules, it was considered an "authorized charge," even though I've disputed it because they filled in the slip later on. Because I don't have a blank copy Capital One, the bank that holds my credit card account, won't help me in the dispute.
Valerie and her husband justified this huge $500+ charge with a statement that there was sand found on the battery up inside the car, so we must have driven it aggressively, causing a transmission leak.
First of all, the car wasn't shifting well to begin with, but the brakes weren't working well either, and the whole car was rusty, sandy, and very very worn to begin with. Secondly, the transmission might have already been messed up when they gave us the vehicle. It was delivered on a trailer bed, so we don't even know if they drove it first. Third, they work together. The person fixing the car is married to the owner of the rental shop, so whatever money he makes from repairs is directly charged to the Island Performance slip. How convenient.
In my book, when you're spending an extra $100 to rent a 4X4 vehicle for beach driving, you're paying the extra money because, like Valerie told me, they often need to do repairs on the transmissions of beach vehicles that are used in the sand. Our extra money should have gone toward the general upkeep of their vehicles. Instead, they charged us the the full deposit amount that they took at the beginning for a repair that we can't even know actually occurred. We don't even know if there was anything wrong with the vehicle, but I'm fairly sure that transmissions are normal wear and tear repairs, and can't be attributed to any one driver, especially with a 1998 Geo tracker that is regularly driven on the beach by renters. After doing some research I discovered that a used car in the condition we rented it in would cost $800. I could almost own the rental vehicle for the amount of money that was charged on my credit card.
Think twice and then a third time before trusting Island Cruisers, Inc. They charge high prices to rent customers old, unsafe vehicles, and then charge as much as they can squeeze out of those customers for basic repairs that need to be done anyway. It is so unfair and deplorable to treat their customers like that. $800 for a one day rental of a vehicle that sucked.
I am SO disappointed. It was supposed to be a fun birthday. It was at the time, but the hours I've put into disputing the charges from this debacle have completely stressed me out and ruined it for me. In the end, they are so good with their operation, they get to keep all of the money and there's nothing I can do short of suing them. Which I probably will.
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Trying to protect other consumers
AUTHOR: Amil - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, November 29, 2012
I just wanted to add that although I may have been emotional when I wrote my report, I stand by my word that the vehicle was driven slowly and carefully the entire time it was in our possession. Imagine using a vehicle responsibly and then being charged hundreds of dollars for damages you didn't make. Isn't that everyone's worst nightmare? I wanted to let other customers know about this so that the same thing doesn't happen to other people that happened to me.
The previous poster alleges that my boyfriend drove wrecklessly. If that were the case, I would be fine with paying the extra money and moving on without taking the time to file a report like this. The problem is that I was there, and the vehicle was never driven over 15mph on the beach, where we used it only for a very short time (an hour total). On the roads, the vehicle was also driven very slowly because the car wouldn't go much faster without sounding loud. My boyfriend is a pilot. He is a patient and competent driver and has has extensive training as a pilot in safety. It's not easy to get that license, and pilots are known to be excellent low-risk drivers, which is why FBOs at airports allow them to sign out crew cars on a regular basis.
Was there a problem when we rented it? Yes, I believe there was a pre-existing problem with the transmission that we took to be normal for the vehicle, having never driven it before. We could tell that it was worn down, but that made sense with all of the other things that were worn out on it. Saying it was old and worn out was not meant to be an insult - that's normal for a 1998 rental 4x4 vehicle that spends most of its time on the beaches of the Outer Banks. If damage happened to the transmission while we had the vehicle, it was normal wear and tear, something caused by previous drivers. If we contributed anything to that it wasn't due to recklessness on our part, it was due to the age and previous age of the vehicle.
What's not normal is being charged $500 extra for something that you're not responsible for. It's the principle of the thing. That's the frustration here, the reason for writing a report for others to see. I feel that I was ripped off, that's why I filed my report. Not to get revenge or to just randomly say mean or illogical things about the owners of the company, who until they charged us for the repairs, had been very pleasant and helpful.
I can understand the need of a small local company to protect its reputation, but maybe they should have thought about it before they did what they did to me. Or at the very least, maybe they could have called to talk it through with me before they charged my credit card, or worked it out with me when I disputed the charges or any time since. I have nothing against the owners personally - there is no reason to write my report other than because they charged me unfairly. Which is something others may find helpful to know.
I'm a consumer that got ripped off for repairs that needed to be made anyway, on a vehicle that was probably not in a condition to be rented. This forum is for consumers who have been through these things to communicate the dangers to other consumers, which is exactly what I did. It's not a personal attack on anyone - it's an effort to help other consumers know what they're possibly getting themselves into.
#2 Consumer Comment
Complaint Not Valid or Believable
AUTHOR: Braxton - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, November 29, 2012
He was prompt, courteous, overly attentive to my safety and to the protection of my vehicle, and I think he UNDERCHARGED me for the difficult and dangerous services he rendered.
It is clear from my personal experience, and after having read the letter of the complainer and the very rational and professional response from Mr. Stump that this "rip-off report" was written by someone with other issues that ruined her vacation. She probably should vent her bile to her boyfriend for his reckless use of a rental vehicle, not to the business that provided full disclosure of their policies.
Mr. Stump and Hatteras Island Performance is a respected community-based business on the Outer Banks, with solid family roots on Hatteras Island. One vitriolic review by a disingenuous and careless customer should not be used to judge this business or its owners.
#3 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Response From Island Cruisers Inc.
AUTHOR: Island Cruisers Inc. - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, October 03, 2011
First, let it be known; it is our standard protocol for each unit to endure a thorough safety and performance check. Inspection of all fluid levels, suspension, drivetrain componennts, functionality of all lights, gauges, radio, & A/C, and condition of interior / exterior are performed and recorded before and after every single rental. This inspection includes a 12 - 16 mile test drive on the street for 2-wheel drive units and on the beach for 4-wheel drive units. In addition, every rental unit has to pass a state inspection. Each unit is also completely cleaned inside and out prior to delivery. We do this because we want our guests to have an enjoyable and memorable experience. One that they will want to revisit each year, as most often is the case.
On Sunday May 29, 2011, protocol was followed (as stated above) and the vehicle was delivered to a small airport, where we unloaded it and gave it final touch up shine an hour prior to meeting Miss Bridges and her accomplice. This is important because in one of Miss bridges statements to her credit card company she said she watched us unload the vehicle. The couple seemed excited but not very attentive and initialed the paperwork too quicky to have fully read all of the important information. This is why we go over it verbally as well. We clearly stated, several times before departure (as we do with all of our guests), "If you have ANY problems or should need anything AT ALL, please call us. Even if you think it's a silly question - CALL. Even if you just need directions or a place to eat, call; we're here to make sure you have a safe and enjoyable time."
Valerie had given an Island Cruisers shirt to Miss Bridges for her birthday and when doing so, accidentally picked up the guide book that goes along with the vehicle. Once this was discovered (aproximately 40 minutes after drop off), Valerie turned around and met her 19 miles from where the vehicle was delivered, to hand over the book. There was no mention of any kind of a problem, on the phone nor in person. Had Miss Bridges given us a call to address the many issues she claims to have had we would have been able to figure out what they were doing, and (depending on the timing of the call) could have stopped the action that caused the transmission to overheat and start leaking from the front pump seal. This could have been caused by simply putting the shifter into a lower gear than the "DRIVE" position and operating on the highway. We still see people occasionally that cannot shift out of park because they are not pushing the brake. So in a vehicle that one is not familiar with, shifting into a wrong gear is a possibility just as much as driving on the beach improperly which was our assumption at first. I cannot assume which action was actually done, I can only know how the damage is caused. In fact, it is irrelevant. Like I said, either would have the possibility of ending in the same result; an overheated transmission that leaks fluid which is NOT normal wear and tear.
Miss Bridges has a lot of inaccuracy between her rants but I will try to sort some of them out. The vehicle is actually a $2,500.00 1996 Geo Tracker, not a 1998 as she has stated. The next inaccuracy is that she states she was told the higher cost of 4x4 rentals is due to the high cost of repairing transmissions; this is untrue. The price of a 4x4 is based on the expenses incurred for additional clean-up, safety checks, and maintenance required; not to cover damage to drivetrain components caused by driver error / negligence. Furthermore, this is the very first time we have had to make a charge for a damaged automatic transmission, so I hardly feel like we have a scam going on here.
We were instructed by our bank and our lawyer to obtain a signed credit card imprint for multiple reasons. We cannot fill in the amount until the vehicle is returned and checked over for mileage, fuel, and as in this case, damages. Unforunately, when you run a business like this, occasionally, you will run across people that will damage the equipment. Whether it is due to inexperience, incompetance or blatant disregard doesn't really matter. Damage is damage and the responsibility of those who cause it.
How we could run a business for 6 years with old, rusty, ill performing vehicles is beyond me. We have many guests come back year after year to enjoy our honest, reliable services without any trouble. (See our Feature in Southern Living Magazine). On the contrary, we take great pride in the vehicles that we have and are often complimented on how well they are cared for and how great they perform on the beach. That was the last econo sized 4x4 we had for the Holiday weekend, but we would have gladly upgraded her to a full size that might have been easier for her to operate had we received any indication that there was a problem.
I invite anyone to come try one of our vehicles; they all show and perfom well.
Next, she goes on to say, "We don't know if there was anything even wrong with the vehicle". So in this post I have read both that she says there were problems and now she says they don't know, well which was it? I continue to digest the letters she wrote her credit card company saying we never tried to contact her, when in reality we did - she refused our certified letter in response to hers. I have to say to anyone else running a business out there watch out for this one, we didn't see it coming. She did threaten us that she would smear our name all over the internet and wherever else possible if we did not refund her money, that part is true.
This was a very unfortunate situation. One we do NOT take pleaure in. What sense it makes for us to just charge guests for whatever we want is uncomprehendable. These are our family owned and operated businesses that we have worked very very hard to put where they are and continue to do so in an effort to sustain and progress. The saddest part of this story still is the fact if she had given us a call the moment she had a problem she would have saved her money and our labor to repair the vehicle by figuring out what they were doing wrong and in turn, avoiding this entire mess.
Ok, I will move on to the part where she says, "The next day we dropped it off at the airport and took off. As far as I knew everthing was fine." Well which was it? In the beginning of the post she says the car was rusty and old, didn't handle well, had brakes that barely stopped and had problems shifting. She is attemping to go one of two routes here, out of sight out of mind meaning if we don't say anything maybe they won't notice the transmission issue or if we make up a bunch of other stuff wrong with the vehicle it will sound like its not a good car. Sorry, neither of these will fly with me. Post and prior to her rental the only issue reported was a clogged windshield washer nozzle which had been corrected before she had the vehicle but no mention of any of the other issues she claims it to have had.
We only charged Miss bridges for a repair to the transmission that she damaged, we did not charge her for a new transmission, that would have been about $1500 itself. We did not charge her for loss of use, which considering the time of year we lost money not having our full fleet available until I returned it to service. All of this shows that we are attempting to be reasonable considering Miss Bridges probably is just not that farmiliar with automobiles as much as some people are. She also makes a statement about whether the transmission was repaired or not. The transmission had no leaks when she took it, after her rental it was a full quart low and making a large puddle everywhere it was parked. After the repair there are no leaks. Miss Bridges attitude says everything, "we also didn't fill the gas tank so expect some kind of $50 fee for gas or whatever." It is perfectly fine to leave the vehicle not full but yes we charge to fill it up not for whatever! It's all these little bits that make me wish we would have never rented to Miss Bridges. That is the only thing that we did wrong here. We feel ripped off as well!

