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Complaint Review: Jim Cockrum
Jim CockrumInternet United States of America
Jim Cockrum silentjim.com Jim Cockrum book & site a front to push high priced coaching Internet
*Consumer Comment: I have found Jim Cockrum very helpful
*Author of original report: silentjim.com Jim Cockrum book & site a front to push high priced coaching & subscrition site
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I too got a call from a guy in Utah selling "Jim Cockrum Coaching". After refusing to answer specific questions (well not refusing just constantly trying to 'refocus' me) the telemarketer made some derogatory comments and actually hung up on ME! I can't help but chuckle every time I recall this :-) I was actually not opposed to 'coaching' (Jim claims to be a successful, Christian, pillar of the community type) but was not going to just whip out the credit card without details. However, after this episode I did some more research and don't think I will be doing business with Jim's people in the future.
This 'coaching' program turns out to be paying kickbacks (referral fees or whatever) to multiple internet marketeers -- not just Jim Cockrum. That's why they answer the phone with the generic "Coaching Office". It looks like the coaching office is actually owned and operated by Nathan Bailey who licenses the names of several online sales gurus including Jim Cockrum. Check out this site for example. The same phone number is used for www.onlinesellingcoach.com, JimCockrumCoaching.com, SkipMcGrathCoaching.Com & www.cashflowmentoring.com There are likely more sites, but Nathan Bailey owns all of these domains.
I don't know if the coaching is actually a ripoff (and I'm not going to pay to find out). But I am cancelling my membership in Jims site as most of the content is designed to upsell and not to provide help.
I do find it very hard to believe that the 'mentors' working for Bailey have all been trained by each of these gurus personally. They all push the program as thought you will be trained by their personal students who have proven themselves successful. If they were actually successful with online ventures of their own, wouldn't they be busy running those businesses? My guess is that they are operating out of a small call center making $10-15 an hour.
All of the internet income 'gurus' run in packs. They promote each others books, services, tools (generally the same rehashed junk) and profit together. Jim Cockrum does a nice job of separating himself from the crowd, but it seems to be just a clever disguise.
Of course, Jim claims to only promote the best products to his list rather than support someones launch for a quick buck, but being on his email list for a while now, proves otherwise. One recent example: I was invited to a training webinar with Jim and Dan Hollings which turned out to be a total sales push with no training benefit whatsoever. Jim seems like a good guy, I thought, so maybe this pitch caught him off guard and he didn't want to call out his friend publicly - but the more you see these things the more you realize it is not coincidence. I did sign up for Dan's site and found it outdated and less than helpful.
Just last week I got an email from Jim about free training and resources for "Amazon Kindle success". Notice the link goes first to one of Jim's sites so he can be sure to get his affiliate commission in case you buy the $300 program they are pushing. I missed the window for the free book ( but the timer resets each time..) but reading the reviews on Amazon makes me feel better about missing it :-)
If the saying is true that you are the average of the five people you spend the most time with, then you are no better than those you recommend to others.
FWIW, I called Jim's support phone number to let him know about the impression I got from his operation. After listening to a very long branding message, I was told that I can leave my number and someone will call me back in a few hours or I could send an email. I opted for the email as it it typically easier and quicker to get a response but that was two days ago and I have not heard back from anyone.
Anyway, now you have a lot more info than I did when I first stated looking into Jim Cockrum -- Proceed with caution.
This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 08/30/2012 06:57 AM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Jim-Cockrum/internet/Jim-Cockrum-silentjimcom-Jim-Cockrum-book-site-a-front-to-push-high-priced-coaching-Int-934663. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.
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