• Report: #64756

Complaint Review: Jim Walter Homes

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  • Submitted: Sun, July 27, 2003
  • Updated: Mon, May 30, 2005

  • Reported By:Hackleburg Alabama
Jim Walter Homes
2501 Woodward Ave Muscle Shoals, Alabama U.S.A.

Jim Walter Homes NO FELT UNDER SHINGLES! LEANING FOUNDATION PIERS! ripoff deception Muscle Shoals Alabama

*Consumer Suggestion: Never ever purchase a Jim Walter Home

*Consumer Suggestion: Builders Short Cuts can cost a home owner thousands

*Consumer Suggestion: Builders Short Cuts can cost a home owner thousands

*Consumer Suggestion: Builders Short Cuts can cost a home owner thousands

*Consumer Suggestion: Builders Short Cuts can cost a home owner thousands

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There is three obvious problems to my house. I want to tell you that off and on i have complained to them about various things, and they only said that because I do not have gutters is the reason my foundation piers are not straight. (I have pics that prove they were not straight before they put the floor on it.)

There is no felt under my shingles and when they where building the house I commented that it seemed odd, because I had helped do roofing with my dad before growing up. The building manager at the time, just said it was the kind of shingles that did not need felt. A few years later, I wrote to the shingle company and found out that the warranty is void without the felt.

During the time that the electrical installers was wiring our home, they were drinking beer during their work, there are some minor problems there.

There was supposed to be extra supports under the walls of the plumbing walls for the bathrooms, there was none, we have since fixed one of them.

We had a shell built including the wiring and some plumbing--we are still skiptical about what plumbing was supposed to be included.

When we hung paneling, several studs had to be removed because they was bowed or had bark still on them.

I look at my situation this way: If you went to the store and bought blue shoes and got out to the car and had a blue shoe and one red shoe, you did not get what you paid for. Well, My house does not leak yet, but when I have to redo the roof/any time I might add. I wonder how hard it would be getting those shingles off the decking with no felt under them. WE paid for felt, we paid for good foundation piers, we paid for good electrical job, we paid for walls according to code, and we paid for supports under the bathroom plumbing walls. Shouldn't I be entitled to the repairs.

My pay off is now just under $5,000 I would be happy if they would just call it even now. Or fix the repairs--give us what we paid for.

Thanks

Anna
Hackleburg, Alabama
U.S.A.

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 07/27/2003 06:27 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Jim-Walter-Homes/Muscle-Shoals-Alabama-35661/Jim-Walter-Homes-NO-FELT-UNDER-SHINGLES-LEANING-FOUNDATION-PIERS-ripoff-deception-Muscle-64756. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 Consumer Suggestion

Never ever purchase a Jim Walter Home

AUTHOR: Anna - (U.S.A.)

I am the one that posted the prior report against Jim Walter Homes. (Date Created: 7/27/2003 6:27:23 PM (Last Modified:7/28/2003 9:44:28 PM ) My house did finally start leaking shortly after I posted this report. Their was water pouring down my living room and kitchen walls. After some of the hurricane weather that blowed through, I began to have all kinds of trouble with my roof. Had the roof had felt under the shingles the damage could have been less severe.

As of Thursday May 26-29,2005 my home was re-roofed by my husband. The was not one square inch of felt under those shingles.
As for the leaning piers. A few months ago, my husband had to put steel cables under the floor front to back and use a "come-along" to pull the floor joice back in they where almost about to come off of the floor framing, this was because the piers were not on "poured pads", but just concrete block pads.

I would never want another Jim Walter Homes, even if it was given to me. If you go to their web site and read their warranty information. It is worded in a way to cover their tails after a little bit of time has passed by. They rarely keep the same construction contractors for very long. This way they can say, "we are not responsiblie", etc. etc. If they wanted to make every customer happy, regardless of warranties, they would reimburse every customer for damage that was caused the first week, the house went up. This includes, roof problems. framing problems, second rate materials, and cheap construction crews they seek out. (This applies to all Jim Walter Franchises, not just the ones in some other areas.) I still wonder after 18-19 years who the heck inspected my home. Go figure!

Do not buy a Jim Walter Home, because you believe you can avoid closing cost and down payments. You will pay for it in the future. Go the distance and get a good respected builder to build your home. Save up for your closing cost and downpayment. You will never regret it.
Jim Walter Homes, Inc. are out to make $$$$$ , not to fulfill anyone's dreams.
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Builders Short Cuts can cost a home owner thousands

AUTHOR: Cindy - (U.S.A.)

I'm familiar with this type of complaint. Our builder also didn't put roofing felt down, and it not only voids the shingle warranty, but in most areas it's also code violation and voids the new home warranty such as those from 2-10 Home Buyers Warranty corporation. People think they're getting a home that's built right and to code, and that's not necessarily so. They think the warranty will cover everything and that's not so either.

My state's largest tract home builder is leaving off felt on many homes and told one savvy buyer that felt was just a courtesy "dust cover." The buyer is trying to get his city to enforce this code and so far the city is not enforcing it, at least not on chosen builders.

Not one house in the developments within a mile of me, homes that range from medium to semi-luxury homes, has flashing around the windows, and many have no house wrap under the siding. The homes are shoddy, period.

There is so much fraud and misrepresentation in the home building industry it's obscene. Then they have the gall to whine to our state legislators that they need new laws to take away our consumer protection on homes, and refer vaguely to "frivolous" lawsuits against builders. In reality, it is very hard and expensive to sue a builder and certainly not something a person could afford to do if the case was not valid. Good luck even finding a competent lawyer, when the state doesn't allow the kind of awards that attract lawyers. In most states the kind of awards builders claim we are getting are not even allowable under state law! I asked the home builders associations to give me the case numbers of these "frivolous" cases and not one could provide a real case. It's a pile of BULL.
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#3 Consumer Suggestion

Builders Short Cuts can cost a home owner thousands

AUTHOR: Cindy - (U.S.A.)

I'm familiar with this type of complaint. Our builder also didn't put roofing felt down, and it not only voids the shingle warranty, but in most areas it's also code violation and voids the new home warranty such as those from 2-10 Home Buyers Warranty corporation. People think they're getting a home that's built right and to code, and that's not necessarily so. They think the warranty will cover everything and that's not so either.

My state's largest tract home builder is leaving off felt on many homes and told one savvy buyer that felt was just a courtesy "dust cover." The buyer is trying to get his city to enforce this code and so far the city is not enforcing it, at least not on chosen builders.

Not one house in the developments within a mile of me, homes that range from medium to semi-luxury homes, has flashing around the windows, and many have no house wrap under the siding. The homes are shoddy, period.

There is so much fraud and misrepresentation in the home building industry it's obscene. Then they have the gall to whine to our state legislators that they need new laws to take away our consumer protection on homes, and refer vaguely to "frivolous" lawsuits against builders. In reality, it is very hard and expensive to sue a builder and certainly not something a person could afford to do if the case was not valid. Good luck even finding a competent lawyer, when the state doesn't allow the kind of awards that attract lawyers. In most states the kind of awards builders claim we are getting are not even allowable under state law! I asked the home builders associations to give me the case numbers of these "frivolous" cases and not one could provide a real case. It's a pile of BULL.
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#4 Consumer Suggestion

Builders Short Cuts can cost a home owner thousands

AUTHOR: Cindy - (U.S.A.)

I'm familiar with this type of complaint. Our builder also didn't put roofing felt down, and it not only voids the shingle warranty, but in most areas it's also code violation and voids the new home warranty such as those from 2-10 Home Buyers Warranty corporation. People think they're getting a home that's built right and to code, and that's not necessarily so. They think the warranty will cover everything and that's not so either.

My state's largest tract home builder is leaving off felt on many homes and told one savvy buyer that felt was just a courtesy "dust cover." The buyer is trying to get his city to enforce this code and so far the city is not enforcing it, at least not on chosen builders.

Not one house in the developments within a mile of me, homes that range from medium to semi-luxury homes, has flashing around the windows, and many have no house wrap under the siding. The homes are shoddy, period.

There is so much fraud and misrepresentation in the home building industry it's obscene. Then they have the gall to whine to our state legislators that they need new laws to take away our consumer protection on homes, and refer vaguely to "frivolous" lawsuits against builders. In reality, it is very hard and expensive to sue a builder and certainly not something a person could afford to do if the case was not valid. Good luck even finding a competent lawyer, when the state doesn't allow the kind of awards that attract lawyers. In most states the kind of awards builders claim we are getting are not even allowable under state law! I asked the home builders associations to give me the case numbers of these "frivolous" cases and not one could provide a real case. It's a pile of BULL.
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#5 Consumer Suggestion

Builders Short Cuts can cost a home owner thousands

AUTHOR: Cindy - (U.S.A.)

I'm familiar with this type of complaint. Our builder also didn't put roofing felt down, and it not only voids the shingle warranty, but in most areas it's also code violation and voids the new home warranty such as those from 2-10 Home Buyers Warranty corporation. People think they're getting a home that's built right and to code, and that's not necessarily so. They think the warranty will cover everything and that's not so either.

My state's largest tract home builder is leaving off felt on many homes and told one savvy buyer that felt was just a courtesy "dust cover." The buyer is trying to get his city to enforce this code and so far the city is not enforcing it, at least not on chosen builders.

Not one house in the developments within a mile of me, homes that range from medium to semi-luxury homes, has flashing around the windows, and many have no house wrap under the siding. The homes are shoddy, period.

There is so much fraud and misrepresentation in the home building industry it's obscene. Then they have the gall to whine to our state legislators that they need new laws to take away our consumer protection on homes, and refer vaguely to "frivolous" lawsuits against builders. In reality, it is very hard and expensive to sue a builder and certainly not something a person could afford to do if the case was not valid. Good luck even finding a competent lawyer, when the state doesn't allow the kind of awards that attract lawyers. In most states the kind of awards builders claim we are getting are not even allowable under state law! I asked the home builders associations to give me the case numbers of these "frivolous" cases and not one could provide a real case. It's a pile of BULL.
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