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Complaint Review: John Anderson-Million Dollar Marketing machine

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  • Submitted: Wed, January 18, 2012
  • Updated: Fri, January 18, 2013

  • Reported By: Coachk — Las Cruces New Mexico United States of America
John Anderson-Million Dollar Marketing machine
1820 S. 8th ST. Amelia Island, FLa 32034 Amelia Island, Florida United States of America

John Anderson-Million Dollar Marketing machine John in Florida, Goodnews Society, Goodnews 1000, Goodnews 3500, BigTicketBiz.com Cash gifting Con man who starts new compoanies to get your money. Amelia Island, Florida

*UPDATE Employee: I have a resolution to my last post ! !

*Consumer Comment: John of Florida please contact me ! ! Re: MDMM

*Consumer Comment: I'm very happy with Million Dollar Marketing Machine, MDMM

*Consumer Comment: Will the Real John please stand up?

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Direct Response From John Anderson

*Consumer Suggestion: Million Dollar Marketting Scam

*Author of original report: I feel terrible! I made a terrible mistake...and I was wrong to Post this about John Anderson!

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In the summer of 2010, I paid John Anderson, the founder of the Good News Society and now the Millionaire Dollar Marketing Machine, $500 for co-op leads that I have yet to receive.

I have asked / pleaded with him numerous times to get me those leads. I asked him after it had been several months since I placed the order, "Do you ever intend on providing those leads that you promised"? He said he was and to be patient.

Well, It's been well over a year since I paid him the $500 and I still have not received even one single lead.

Eventually I stopped asking for the leads, All I wanted was my $500 back. He said he wouldn't do it because he spent a lot of money on trying to put an email type lead generation system together but it never materialize. He said he paid a guy to design the system but that he died. He said don't worry I fully intend on getting you those leads.


I told him I needed the leads way back before my house was going into foreclosure.
I told him I don't want the leads any more since you left the Good news Society to start a another program (Million Dollar marketing Machine) and while leaving your entire team behind, that is unless they were willing to move to his new program and cough up a $1000.

Since I was out of money and no longer trusted him, that wasn't an option.

John Anderson or John in Florida is a compulsively liar. He over promises and under delivers.

Here's what really gets me...... I paid him $1000 to get involved in his cash gifting program. I paid him another $2500 when he added a another level to it. You would think a guy I paid over $3500 to plus another $500 for the co-op, would refund a measly $500. Especially when he claim's he was making over a $100k per month.

Who ever is reading this, if you are thinking about joining one of his programs, DON'T DO IT!!!!!!

He is an extremely smooth talker. Most con men are.  That's how they gain your confidence and make you think they only want to help you succeed, but in reality all they want is to get into your wallet!

More examples about how he over promised and under delivered.

Shortly after I joined the Good News Society, I began to notice a pattern developing. He has this tendency of promising things and never delivering on them.

Here a are just few things he promised....





  • He said he was going to build us a new capture page. Nope, never happened!




  • He said he was going to record the training calls and place them in the back office. Nope, never happened!




  • He said he was going to do a recorded Q & A Call,  create a new Presentation, give us Coop leads etc.  Nope, never happened!




  • He made incredible claims that he was making over a 100K in one month, yet he couldn't afford to refund my $500.  Maybe he did make that kind of money, I don't know. All I know was I couldn't rely on his word. Slowly but surely I realized that couldn't be trusted.

John, will probably say that I am complaining because I never succeeded with his program.
He's right!  I never did very well in his program. Lost about a $2500 in his program.

One of the reasons why I didn't succeed in his program was this,  I was running out of money and therefore I couldn't afford to advertise any more. The other reason I didn't succeed was I stopped believing in John and in the program. I can't promote what i don't believe in. Some can but I can't!

I have a real hard time believing in something when promises and assurances aren't kept.

I am not like John, I want to help people not hurt people. So when things don't happen like they are promised, then doubt rises up in me and I can't recruit people into a program I no longer believe in.

This Ripoff Report wouldn't have been necessary had he just refunded my $500.

All he had to do was do the right thing, but he couldn't even do that.

Stay away from him and any program he is involved with.
I don't want you to be in the same place I am in a few months.

Please don't you become a victim of this guy or one of his programs.

He will leave you high and dry like he did me when I was going through some terrible financial difficulties (Lost my job, Foreclosure etc).

Like they say, " Buyer beware"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




 

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#1 UPDATE Employee

I have a resolution to my last post ! !

AUTHOR: Oscar - ()

Hi ! ! I was finally contacted by John Anderson and we are presently trying to resolve the situation with my membership in MDMM , he shared that he has been sick and some family situations have hampered his attempts to keep in touch with me , I still believe in this program and at this time I am looking to move forward with John's help to achieve financial freedom and will keep everyone updated to my progress. I do believe in giving everyone a chance to prove themselves and I do understand that things do happen in life.
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John of Florida please contact me ! ! Re: MDMM

AUTHOR: Ringo - ()

Hi John , my name is Ringo I truly believe in giving a person a chance before I judge them or make accusations ! ! however I did read the previous post from the person who said you had scammed him  of his money and it almost sounded like my experience with you ! ! I became a member of MDMM about a year ago and we talked a few times , you made yourself very available to me before I paid my $500 but it seems that you never answered your phone or tried to contact me after I paid !!

again I am trying to be as understanding as I can about this situation and would very much like to continue in the MDMM program but I saw you mentioned that the mentor helps in this business and you did PROMISE ! ! to help me , however I feel like I am not getting the help you PROMISED ! ! now I know there are no GUARANTEES in life or anything else but if I have no options to get help then I do question a person's integrity when they do not respond to my asking for help to at least have a chance to make money in a program that I joined on someone's word ! !

my email is (((email redacted))) or (((email redacted))) , I tried to call you today at the office# you gave but only got an answering machine AGAIN ! ! I would love to prove the other person wrong and go back to believing in your word that you gave that you would help me with MDMM biz ! ! and I would greatly welcome and appreciate any communication from you.


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#3 Consumer Comment

I'm very happy with Million Dollar Marketing Machine, MDMM

AUTHOR: Tim Savage - (United States of America)

The founder of MDMM (Million Dollar Marketing Machine) is Bob Shafer who I had contact with for a year before joining MDMM. Also, the lead source I use, is excellent and has been in business for 7 years.

I'm not sure who John Anderson is, maybe a con guy who stole MDMM's name or used to be involved? But, I assure you that MDMM has excellent intrinsic value and Bob Shafer keeps his word all the time. I actually worked directly for him in 2012 before joining in 2013 and I couldn't be happier.

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Will the Real John please stand up?

AUTHOR: JohnAndersonTheRipOffKing - (United States of America)

John, I may call the number I posted if this does go to you, however; I did get calls and I was not happy at the time.  I surely am not giving my number for leads.  I have to wonder if you are the same guy.  My mistake was to put the word scam and Million Dollar Marketing in the same sentence.  I changed my phone number because of the text messages coming in. Should I call you?  Let me know.
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Direct Response From John Anderson

AUTHOR: John in Florida - (United States of America)

To Whom It May Concern:

I am John Anderson..."John in Florida" and I wanted to take a moment to share my feedback...

I have been in the Online Marketing Arena going on 14 Years and I know that sites like this are usually a "No Win" situation...but when I saw this "James Grady" guy make a completely False Post, I had to reply...

The funny thing is that Rip-Off Report Claims in their "Terms and Conditions" Not to allow Slanderous and Defamatory Comments to be Posted (which are Against the Law) however, this site Always allow them to be Posted and then NEVER allows them to be Removed or Edited...even by the Original Author.

You see, anyone can go onto a site like this and read a Negative Post about an Individual or about a Company...and then he/she can "chime in" and stir the pot...and act like they are a part of the scenario...and do some Bashing...and then offer you the opportunity to call them!

Well, the REAL reason they Post is so that they can "Pitch" you on whatever it is that they are Promoting...they don't care who they Hurt...or whether they Lied to get your attention because when you call, YOU just became a New "Free" Lead for this person!

I want to be Crystal Clear in saying that I have never spoken to this "James Grady"  or "Grady James" person...EVER...and that means that his Post is a complete fabrication and his cheap attempt to generate Leads!
This is why anyone who is considering getting involved with Money Making Opportunities Online or Offline, should always be aware of the fact that there are individuals (like James) who use unscrupulous methods to generate Leads...regardless of who they Hurt.

Again, I have never spoken to this person...EVER..so this Post by "James D Grady" or "Grady James" is completely False...in other words, this guy just Lied in order to get you to call him! If you were to call him, he would definitely be lieing to you because he nor his wife have EVER spoken to me much less worked with me...

Anyone who knows me will tell you that I would NEVER call anyone and tell them that they are a "Sucker"...or Laugh and say anything of the sort...

It wouldn't even make sense for me to do that...and either way, I am not like that AT ALL and I would NEVER do that to anyone...

To top it all off, his Post is very inconsistent and doesn't even make sense in relation to what I am involved with...so it's evident that this James character is attempting to get people who read his Negative Post about me to call him so that he can tell them about whatever Opportunity he is involved with...

By the way...ZNZ is what he is Promoting and actually, last Fall, I looked at ZNZ as a Feeder Program but I DID NOT learn about ZNZ through James...and I never was involved with it in any way...

My main concern was that they (ZNZ) have put limitations on the number of people you can Refer...Plus the fact that they want each person to enter their Personal CC info on multiple websites in order to Qualify which is a BIG Issue for many people...including
myself...and that is why I decided not to get involved with ZNZ...

For the Record, I do know people who have made some money with ZNZ...

For those of you who have worked with me...or may be looking to Join me and my Team,  you probably know that one of the first points that I make with you is that I am very involved on a Daily basis...and I am accessible to anyone and everyone on my Team during Daytime and early Evening Hours...

Now obviously, I know that we live in a "Free" Society and like anyone else, I too (if I want to) can get on a site like this and Bash and Lie about People...and call them Con Men and Scam Artists or call them Compulsive Liars...or Exaggerate about an experience that I have had or heard about...

The thing is...I would never do such a thing...because it's just not the right thing to do! I contacted Jim in New Mexico (the fellow that Authored the Original Post) immediately after I found out about it. He told me that he was frustrated with what was going on in his life at the time that he wrote the Post...and that he got to thinking about all of the Biz Opps that he was involved in...and how he didn't do well in any of them...and that he then started thinking about the Advertising Co-op and the $500 that he spent on Leads with my Team...but again, that was NOT the real issue in his life at the time he wrote the Post...it just so happened that unfortunately, I ended up being the Target of his frustrations!

Jim told me that it was only after he submitted the Post that he realized that his frustrations were not my fault...and he shared with me that he actually tried to Remove the Post right after he Posted it...but of course, this site would not allow him to do so...

So Jim's Post became a Permanent Record for people to read and get an ever-lasting impression about a situation...that is simply NOT accurate.

Again, Jim in New Mexico was and still is involved with NUMEROUS other Online and Offline Businesses...and has shared with me that the Job Market where he lives is not good...so there are many reasons for his frustrations...

Of course, I was Upset...because he made me out o be some kind of "Scam Artist" Monster, which is a Far Cry from the person that I am...and I knew that people like this James guy are out there to "stir the pot" and make things out to be even worse than they ever were...and to create further Doubt by adding False Posts...in an effort to compound the situation and then Capitalize on it... 

I live my Life in a Positive light...and I was glad to see that at least in Jim's Follow-Up, he mentioned the Countless Hours of Training, Support and 3 Way Calls that I "Gave" him and the Thousands of Dollars worth of Leads that I had already "Given" him...it's just funny to me that he forgot to mention any of that in his Original Post...

Now although he said all of the Negative and Slanderous things that he said about me in his Post, I wanted Jim to know that I do care and always have cared!

I contacted him to go over what had happened...and helped him understand the situation and although I was Hurt, I wanted him to know that I had not, nor was I going to turn my Back on him...and that I would help him however I could...and that I absolutely will do my Best to help and support him...

The thing is...anyone and everyone who gets involved in a Business of any kind (including Jim) MUST understand that when you spend Money on Advertising, it's a Gamble...and that some Methods bring better results than others. This is Originally what happened with Jim...and obviously, I had No Control over the outcome of the Advertising!

It wasn't about whether I could afford to give him his Money back...I mean do you think that USA Today will give you your Money back if your Ad doesn't produce? Well, believe me, they won't!

Let me be clear...I am not here to Argue at all...as a matter of fact, I am all about making the situation right...and as best I can...because I truly want everyone on my Team to do well!

In all fairness though, I do want to clarify just a few points that Jim in New Mexico misstated in his Original Post...
Jim said that I am the Founder of The Million Dollar Marketing Machine...and not that it's a Bad thing...but I AM NOT!
Jim said that I go around starting Programs and Companies so that I can Screw people...Now that IS a Bad thing...and that is absolutely NOT TRUE and it wouldn't even make sense for me to do such a thing...and obviously, those are words of frustration.

Also...Jim mentions that his Home was going in to Foreclosure...but what he failed to mention was that the Home that he says was going in to Foreclosure was a Rental Property...it was a Source of Income for him...but it was going in to Foreclosure because he was Living on the Rental Income instead of using it to pay the Mortgage on the Property...so that's the rest of the story...and again, it was NOT his Primary Residence!

I am not going to list and address everything that Jim Posted because it's clear that he was Venting...but I did want to clarify these points because this site will NOT allow a Poster to correct his/her Post(s)...so the Reader(s) read the Original Post and the impression stays within their thoughts forever...no matter whether they read on to find the "Real Truth" or not...and that is just NOT right!

I also want to say that there are MANY, MANY people who do VERY well in the Online Marketing Arena...many people change their Lives and it's absolutely true that Millionaires are made ALL the time!

There are countless Opportunities for Average, "Everyday" people to get WAY ahead by getting involved in Online and Offline Businesses and Programs...but if a person takes longer to succeed than others, that doesn't mean that it's the Sponsor's fault...or the fault of the Company!

This is why I DO NOT "Promise" or "Guarantee" Income to ANYONE...that is simply not something that I nor anyone else worth their Salt can do...

I do and always will Guarantee that I am in this for the Long Term and that chances are excellent that in working together, our Team will to continue to Succeed just as we have for a long time.

And ANYONE who is looking to get started in ANY sort of Venture MUST understand that Success requires Patience, Money, Time and Effort...PERIOD!

I say this to myself all the time..."NO ONE but YOU can MAKE you Successful...!"

The bottom line is that if you are serious about making something work, then chances are excellent that you'll do VERY well...but that's if you are consistently involved...and you if apply the Guidance and Support that is given to you...but ultimately it is YOU and ONLY YOU who can make YOURSELF Successful!

Do I think that making Money Online is a "Real" way out of Financial "Dire Straights"?

ABSOLUTELY!!!

But again, anything worth having is going to require Money, Nurturing and Attention from YOU!

If your Home is in Foreclosure or you lost your Job...obviously, that is NOT someone  else's Fault! Everyone knows that it takes Months and sometimes years for a Home to go into Foreclosure and an Individual or an Online Program is NOT what drove you into Foreclosure...and they are NOT why you lost your Job!

With that said...I would STRONGLY urge you to consider all of your Options before you decide to start a Business...obviously, if you're down to your last Dime, you'd better think twice and then again before you make a move.

I am not saying DON'T get started because you're down to your last Dollars...because that's a HUGE reason TO get started...and that's where I was years ago!

I Thank God every day for the Strength that he gave me to make the decision to go ahead and get started in Online Marketing...I literally used my last available Money to get started but in doing so, it became the "Game Changer" in my Life that I was looking for...and that was 13 Years ago!

All I AM saying is...it's one thing if you're Broke (without Money) but still feel you have what it takes to be Successful...that's great...go for it...but before you make a move...if you think that "YOU" might be "Broke" from the Neck Up, (in other words, you're not feeling as Confident as you normally do)...then maybe you should wait to get started...and spend some time building your Confidence and your own Outlook first!

Again, there are Thousands of Money making Opportunities out there...and everyone who is considering getting started in a New Venture...MUST realize that his/her Success Starts and Ends with the Person in the Mirror!

As the saying goes..."there is no such thing as something for nothing"!

Yes, I have been in the Online Marketing Arena for many years and I have helped A LOT of people make A LOT of Money...and yes, I do Market The Million Dollar Marketing Machine but again, I am NOT the Founder...I simply Market the Program just like everyone else does...

I will tell you that from the beginning, I have had...and am still having Incredible Success with MDMM...and I know that MANY, MANY others are having Great Success in Marketing MDMM  as well...

I will also tell you that I will be willing to Bet that (just like in all other Businesses and Programs) there are people out there who have not done well in MDMM...but that doesn't mean that MDMM is a Bad Program...or that the People Marketing it are Bad People either...

Everyone should realize that there are Countless other Businesses and Programs where people did not do well in those Ventures either...but that is NOT because the Business or Program wasn't worthwhile!

If I go out and Buy a Subway Franchise...but I don't commit the Time, Money and Effort to make it Thrive...and it ends up with No Customers and Business...

Does that mean that Subway is a Bad Company?

Of Course Not!

Does it mean that the Equipment Manufacturer was Bad...or that the People who made the Sandwiches were Bad??

Of Course Not!! 

I look around all the time and see different Franchises and "Mom and Pop" Businesses that have Closed...so who's fault was that?

My point is...it's VERY important for anyone and everyone who is going to get involved in ANY sort of Venture...to understand that in order to be Successful, it's going to require Patience, Money and Time...and of course, it's going to require Effort.

As for getting started with Me and My Team...this is exactly what I tell each person who I speak with directly on the phone..."Follow Your Gut Instinct"!

If working with me and my Team feels right to you...GREAT...Go For It! We can't wait to have you become a part of our Team...I am looking forward to teaching you A LOT...and chances are excellent that you'll do GREAT with us!

If it doesn't feel right, then DON'T get started us...take all the time you need and keep looking for the Best fit for you...and We Wish You The Best Of Luck!!

That's how simple it is...

Thank you for taking the time to read my feedback...and if you would like to speak with me, please know that I am more than happy to speak with you...

Call me any time between the Hours of 10 AM and 7 PM EST., Monday-Saturday.

I Sincerely Wish You The Very Best of Luck!

John Anderson - "John in Florida"

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Million Dollar Marketting Scam

AUTHOR: JohnAndersonTheRipOffKing - (United States of America)

I was given a call back by a man named John Anderson, who claimed he started Million Dollar Marketing Machine.   We were furious that he never made good on his word to promote or help or train or call us back with questions after we called him back.  All we get is his 618-355-1494 answer machine.  We did get an email with vulgar language laughing and calling us 'Suckers' for falling for the oldest trick in the book!  Yes, it hurt us financially and we learned our lesson.  He cursed and laughed and stated the law could not touch him since we involved ourselves in a system that was borderline illegal.  I was angry at first, but since I did not research, I have to blame myself for being an idiot.  John can never get his story straight after we did get in touch with him as he blamed his wife saying she was held accountable for contacting us.  When we asked why rip off report stated those things (had we known before we never would involve ourselves with John), he stated rip off report was a joke and anyone can post on the website and that is why he is the one who created a new email and pretended to be someone who submitted an apology to the original complaint on John and his Scam.  Clever...huh?  He never thought we would go on this site and find it to comment on his scam!  My number is 941-258-7711 if you have questions or concerns before dealing with John!
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#7 Author of original report

I feel terrible! I made a terrible mistake...and I was wrong to Post this about John Anderson!

AUTHOR: Jim Knop - (USA)

I want everyone to know that I would like to Remove this Negative Post about John Anderson but Rip Off report won't allow me to Remove it!

When I made this Post about John, I was mad at myself and I wanted to take it out on whomever I could, it didn't matter to me at the time.

Unfortunately, I made John Anderson out to be the Bad Guy...and I want to sincerely apologize to John and his family.

The Truth is that I have been involved in many different Online Programs and lately, I just got frustrated because I am dealing with some Personal problems right now.

Yes, I lost my job and like a lot of other people my house got foreclosed on...but none of that is John's fault!
 
My not doing well in these Programs is no one's fault but my own and I was wrong to say bad things about John Anderson...

Actually, John is someone who has helped me more than anyone else that I have ever been involved with...and I since Rip Off Report won't let me Remove my Original Post that I made about John, I want to set the Record straight.

First, I want to say John NEVER Ripped me off!

I requested to be in John's Co-op and I knew that there could be a risk, just the same as there is when I run a Newspaper Ad or when I send out Postcards. 

And I want to be clear too in saying that I haven't worked with John in almost 2 years, I have been working other Programs.

I am not involved in any way with The Million Dollar Marketing Machine and I recently found out that John is not the Founder of that Program anyway.

What I feel the worst about is that I said that John is a "Con Man" and that is simply Not True either...John has been genuine and has spent lots of time trying to help me.

I said that John is a Liar...he's NOT...and I'm just sorry that I said that about him too!

I gave you a list of Bullet Points of things that he didn't do but I need to clarify those points and tell you what he DID do to help me!




  • I failed to share that John Anderson has "given" me Thousands of Leads at his own expense.




  • John has spent many hours with me one on one, supporting me and showing me the best ways to Market my Business and talk to Prospects.




  • It wasn't his obligation to provide me with a Capture Page...those were his ideas that he shared with me, he didn't actually promise that to me. I don't even know why I brought that up.


  • John DID do many Support/Training Calls with me every week for a long time...and I know that he didn't want to Record them because he didn't want other Programs using his Trainings.


  • John helped me get Qualified very quickly so that I could start making money, I didn't mention that either.


  • For me to say that John is a smooth talker should actually be a compliment to him because he is a great talker and he taught me how to speak with complete strangers without being nervous.

The real truth is that I would absolutely recommend John Anderson as a Mentor in any Program that he is in and if you get the chance to work with him, I urge you to do so.

John will teach you a lot and he will definitely help you more than you know.

I want to close this by saying that I have put money into many different Programs and I don't feel like I "lost" money with John but to the contrary, because as far as I am concerned, my best money was spent with him.

Please, Please don't read my original Post and think badly of John by what I said.

I feel terrible about this and I want everyone who reads this to know that I was in a moment of my own weakness...and it won't be fair to him if you do.

I think that there are people like me that get mad about their situations and they don't always use good judgement by Posting on a site like this Rip Off Report.

It's kind of like having an argument with someone you love and saying something that you really don't mean and then wanting to take it back. Well I did but this site won't let me take it back!

I should have never said what I did about John Anderson and I only wish that this site would take it down.



 
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