Saw TV advertisement on how to buy tax certificates for little or no money in our area. Responded to that advertisement, it was $64.45. When received package it consisted of 4 short books, 4 CD roms, 1 DVD. Also included was a welcome letter that is attached, that said if we responded with in a certain period we could receive a personal profile.
My husband Eddie responded but they wanted to speak with the both of us. So Eddie gave them our phone number at their request. They called back at a different time we both they and then we still not available gave us their number to call when we are together and it would take approximately 1 hour.
We spoke to a Bob on 08/19/2004 at 800-508-1835 ext. 214 at 6:30 to 8:30. During this conversation Bob said the John Beck Amazing Profits was looking to have new real estate investment testimonials. Because they needed to update their TV infomercial and asked if we would be interested. We said yes. Bob then explained that we would have to qualify and he would ask both of us a series of questions to see if we qualified for them to be trained by them one on one. Questions like what type of people do we consider ourselves to be, how much knowledge we have about the real estate business, what kind of money are we expecting to make and how much money we had available on our credit cards to use for investments. Because it was better to use other peoples money than our own, and it had easier access to get a hold of Bob seemed to be happy with our answers and he told us to expect to make 1 times your salary in the first year. He would recommend us to the one who makes the final decision.
We then spoke to a Rafael Hernandez he said that Bob is really excited he really recommends you guys to be trained by John Beck's personal assistant.
Rafael asked some of the same questions and then told my husband and me that we would receive a package in the next few days that included some important tools we needed to use in helping us learn tax investments. And that we would receive 10 training sessions (We originally thought I remembered it was for 1 hour each but ended up being 20-30 minutes long) that will show us in the beginning to show us what to buy and what not to buy and how to go about obtaining it so we could recoup our initial investment back, and then some more to invest in another property.
And then will proceed to train us on how to do this on our own for the next 6 months until we are trained with unlimited calls to our trainer with any questions. He then told us how much it would cost. $7,485.00 and that it was tax deductible (which it was not according to account) and we would recoup that money within 90 days.
Rafael said they are going to ask us to record our conversation and when they do they will say things like this is a student/teacher relationship and that there is no guarantees involved in this program at all but they have to say that. So just agree with them. And we did.
We the recording was complete they took the credit card information down. It was split up on two different cards.
Within 5 days I received a package that included an enrollment confirmation sheet and a questionnaire. All is attached. I filled it out and faxed it back to them on 08/24/2004.
Monday, August 30, 2004 was our first training session with a Curtis. And so have been every week except one that he had skipped out on. 09/14/2004 explained personal problems rescheduled a later date the following week. During some meetings having told us general information on how to look for real estate in our neighborhood, online, and to find a real estate agent to find them for us. Also Curtis Johnson has given me a few websites to look at to find property most do not tell me anything about it. And other sites cost more money to join just to give me information. Nothing that speaks of buying tax liens or tax certificates.
I asked him to do one because he was sure that wasn't the case when he did he then said the same things as I did. The site is not telling us what we need to know. And then gave me 3 or 4 more. Which they did not tell me anything either. In reality he has detoured me away from buying tax certificates and trying to buy directly from BID4ASSETS.COM only. And it was explained that it was our fault that we have not purchased anything yet. He said even if it was across the United States (there is none in our area) we could still buy them and resale them back on BID4ASSETS.COM or by other ways for a higher price. He told us the goal was to look for things in the $800 to $1000 range and resell it at least get a $10,000 profit. Sounds good but too risky for us or anyone to take without seeing the property first.
My complaint is that we have been misled into thinking we could easily get tax sale certificates over the counter (did not get sold in the tax). They do not do that in our area they just got resold the next year's tax sale. According to the Treasurer's office. When I told them that we were routed back to buying online. I feel like we were victims of our ignorance in the real estate tax certificates. I feel deceived and misled by John Beck's program. I know we had 3 or 4 more sessions left. But when they just keep saying the same thing about buying online or tell you to contact a real estate agent whom anyone could do.
I feel sick thinking we had been scammed. We paid a whole lot of money thinking we were going to be making lots of money easy since we were being trained by the ones that highly trained John Beck's personal assistant. We are not being taught anything usable except maybe to not believe in what someone tells you. In turn we were being taught to do the same thing to others. Sell property to someone who is ignorant in the true value of it. Curtis one time even gloated how in his training classes there was a property sold for $53,000 and found out it was worthless it was in the bottom of the lake.