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  • Submitted: Wed, July 16, 2008
  • Updated: Wed, November 12, 2008

  • Reported By:LAS VEGAS Nevada
John Robert Powers/ IPOP
8978 W. Nevso Dr. Las Vegas, Nevada U.S.A.

John Robert Powers/ IPOP JRP IS IPOP and is charging from $1500 to $9000 plus for the exact same IPOP package Las Vegas Nevada

*Consumer Comment: Jrp and Ipop might be seperate companies..... but

*UPDATE Employee: In Response to Mattymac and John Robert Powers RE: Vagas father

*UPDATE Employee: In Response to Mattymac and John Robert Powers RE: Vagas father

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We are all being stolen from!John Robert Powers is charging varying prices for IPOP. Some people pay $1500 while the next family pays $8000 for exactly the same thing. Everyone pays the same is what they sell you but do not believe this. Everyone pays what they think you are capable of paying. I asked the Las Vegas Director about this and they admited this and stated it is not right but it does happen. I was assured that IPOP would refund the money immediately after IPOP Las Vegas. It has been two weeks and have only got the run around. IPOP is just a way to make huge profits in 4 days.

Enough is enough I investigated the business license only to find they conducted business for 8 months without a license and had none when I signed their contract for classes and IPOP. I am sure this is only the begining and I will make authorities hold these people liable for the violations. We can't make these people grow morality but we sure can make them follow rules of business.

IPOP is John Robert Powers. Do not let them tell you any different, I have been to their corporate headquarters here in Vegas and it is only a false front to have mail and calls routed. They run a shell game and never allow you to come face to face once there is a problem. No reputable business has a reason to hide from its clients. Their teachers, who are responsible for your childrens wellfare and education, are not required any credentials.What school charges $100 plus an hour for classes and does not have qualified profesionals?

This company is not the only way to further your childrens career so just do some research and be patient. If you haven't yet, do not do business with these people, and if you have do some digging and you will find the truth. Expose these people and hold them liable. Check their backgrounds and enlist your local media to help. They will be more than happy to help expose the exploitation of our children.

vegasfather
LAS VEGAS, Nevada
U.S.A.

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#1 Consumer Comment

Jrp and Ipop might be seperate companies..... but

AUTHOR: Shameful Scams - (U.S.A.)

Nick,

You said:
***Again, I think you've been misinformed. Yes, iPOP's office is in Las Vegas, but no, it is NOT JRP. They do work exclusively with JRP, but they are two separate companies. Unfortunately, the only way for you to believe me is through trust, and I can can tell already, you feel you can't do that. For that, I am sorry!***

Can we be totally honest here? While it is certain there are two seperate business entities cashing checks .. JRP President Ronald Lynn Patterson LIVES WITH IPop President Joseph Flores-Beauchamp.

Let's not paint a picture of simply 2 businesses who work together. They are "partners" in business and in life.

The original poster as well as many others all over the internet is "right on" with their experiences when they describe the deals, the sales pitch, the fraud, etc.

I do partially agree with one thing you wrote, JRP's ability to create success is highly limited and 1% success rate is probably generous. It would be nice if the sales pitch CLEARLY included that little perspective. But no, it is about hopes and dreams and compliments and coercian AND exploitation.

- Shameful
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#2 UPDATE Employee

In Response to Mattymac and John Robert Powers RE: Vagas father

AUTHOR: Aquarious - (U.S.A.)

Dear Mattymac, I did not address you as sir because of obvious reasons. Right is dRight and Wrong is Wrong. I was an employee of JRP. I know how they lead people on to believe they are invited to a BIG Producer, Casting Director or Agent that is searching for new faces. Come now. The so-called BIG SHOTS were in fact paid a fee to come and make a sales pitch about how the Entertainment Industry is so... hard to sbreak into...Then Kim Flowers represents herself as an agent. She is the franchise owner of Las Vegas JRP or Justine Reyes General Manager of Reno Nevada, JRP who incidently Kim Flowers also owns. They would both come to these "Auditions" and close the sale by doing private auditions. They would have the hopeful young (and old) prospective clients sing or simply read a few lines of a supposedly up-coming commercial or movie. Then they would tell everyone that if the Casting Director or Agent was really interested in them they would get a call back!! The truth is anyone that looked like they had money would be called back. Then they were told they need "Training." I was even ripped off because I was the one that invited the people to the Auditions and I was promised bonuses which I rarely got. The payroll checks were "insufficient funds." And Yes I CAN Proove this!! I would love to join in on a civil law suit. I was a dedicated and hardworking emp that got totally taken advantage of.
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AUTHOR: Aquarious - (U.S.A.)

Dear Mattymac, I did not address you as sir because of obvious reasons. Right is dRight and Wrong is Wrong. I was an employee of JRP. I know how they lead people on to believe they are invited to a BIG Producer, Casting Director or Agent that is searching for new faces. Come now. The so-called BIG SHOTS were in fact paid a fee to come and make a sales pitch about how the Entertainment Industry is so... hard to sbreak into...Then Kim Flowers represents herself as an agent. She is the franchise owner of Las Vegas JRP or Justine Reyes General Manager of Reno Nevada, JRP who incidently Kim Flowers also owns. They would both come to these "Auditions" and close the sale by doing private auditions. They would have the hopeful young (and old) prospective clients sing or simply read a few lines of a supposedly up-coming commercial or movie. Then they would tell everyone that if the Casting Director or Agent was really interested in them they would get a call back!! The truth is anyone that looked like they had money would be called back. Then they were told they need "Training." I was even ripped off because I was the one that invited the people to the Auditions and I was promised bonuses which I rarely got. The payroll checks were "insufficient funds." And Yes I CAN Proove this!! I would love to join in on a civil law suit. I was a dedicated and hardworking emp that got totally taken advantage of.
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#4 UPDATE Employee

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AUTHOR: Nick - (U.S.A.)

First of all to vegas father, I think Mattymacks response was uncalled for. It may be someone who wants to smear JRP by posting ignorant comments. You can ignore that person's ramble. Anyone who can't give a response with any intelligence should have their response screened. But, as it seems, there is no such moderator on this site to weed out the stupidity. So anyway, I hope you understand my rebuttal to not be a rude banter with you. I am concerned that you were given bad information about JRP. Please, let me go over a few things with you:


We are all being stolen from!John Robert Powers is charging varying prices for IPOP. Some people pay $1500 while the next family pays $8000 for exactly the same thing. Everyone pays the same is what they sell you but do not believe this. Everyone pays what they think you are capable of paying. I asked the Las Vegas Director about this and they admited this and stated it is not right but it does happen. I was assured that IPOP would refund the money immediately after IPOP Las Vegas. It has been two weeks and have only got the run around. IPOP is just a way to make huge profits in 4 days.


***Ok, there were varying prices to iPOP. Some paid much less because they came on board with the event extremely late in the game. They weren't given the same attention as the ones who started at the regularly scheduled time. The few who paid a significantly smaller amount were not given headshot/comp card photos, they weren't given the same amount of training, and they weren't allowed to enter into any other competitions other than acting. They also weren't allowed to be in the online iPOP Directory, (a service that allows the agents, cds, and managers to view the students before, during, and after the event). So those that paid less, got less, nes pas?***


Enough is enough I investigated the business license only to find they conducted business for 8 months without a license and had none when I signed their contract for classes and IPOP. I am sure this is only the begining and I will make authorities hold these people liable for the violations. We can't make these people grow morality but we sure can make them follow rules of business.

***I don't know where you did your investigating, but I think you might've been misinformed. The owners of the Vegas JRP would not allow that to happen. I am not calling you a liar, I just think you were given bad info on this.***

IPOP is John Robert Powers. Do not let them tell you any different, I have been to their corporate headquarters here in Vegas and it is only a false front to have mail and calls routed. They run a shell game and never allow you to come face to face once there is a problem. No reputable business has a reason to hide from its clients.

***Again, I think you've been misinformed. Yes, iPOP's office is in Las Vegas, but no, it is NOT JRP. They do work exclusively with JRP, but they are two separate companies. Unfortunately, the only way for you to believe me is through trust, and I can can tell already, you feel you can't do that. For that, I am sorry!***


Their teachers, who are responsible for your childrens wellfare and education, are not required any credentials.What school charges $100 plus an hour for classes and does not have qualified profesionals?

***I don't know who told you this, but again, this is untrue. I know the owners of the school, and the school director, and the teachers themselves. It is a requirement to have at least a bachelor's degree in acting, and at least 5 years experience to teach at a JRP. That is one thing we are EXTREMELY strict on!***

This company is not the only way to further your childrens career so just do some research and be patient. If you haven't yet, do not do business with these people, and if you have do some digging and you will find the truth. Expose these people and hold them liable. Check their backgrounds and enlist your local media to help. They will be more than happy to help expose the exploitation of our children.

***You're right in saying JRP isn't the only way to further your children's career. There are lots of schools out there, theatres that teach, after school programs. Go out and research them! I can only tell you that JRP will do the same, but also offer exposure to agents and cd's, and managers, when most schools do not. JRP also offers much education in marketing and business, when most schools do not. I don't know if you attended this past iPOP. If so, I met you. I came to the school for a last minute run through of the scenes, commercials and monologues. Not sure if you remember me. I was helping out Z for a bit. Please know that the educators, and the directors of JRP have every intention of helping these children out. We do not exploit them, or steal their dreams (as so many people put it). This is an extremely difficult business to be successful at, and we do everything we can to help our students achieve their goals. Of course, not everyone does. In fact, most people don't. This isn't a JRP thing, its just the basic facts of this business.

If your concern lies with financial issues, I can only tell you to read your contracts fully before signing anything. Once you sign a contract, you are telling any and all authorities that you consent to all that lies in it. Just some info for ya. I hope your child DOES succeed, regardless of where he/she gets training. I enjoyed all the performers from Vegas. They were fun to watch, and very talented! Maybe we'll see your child on the big screen one day!***
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AUTHOR: Nick - (U.S.A.)

First of all to vegas father, I think Mattymacks response was uncalled for. It may be someone who wants to smear JRP by posting ignorant comments. You can ignore that person's ramble. Anyone who can't give a response with any intelligence should have their response screened. But, as it seems, there is no such moderator on this site to weed out the stupidity. So anyway, I hope you understand my rebuttal to not be a rude banter with you. I am concerned that you were given bad information about JRP. Please, let me go over a few things with you:


We are all being stolen from!John Robert Powers is charging varying prices for IPOP. Some people pay $1500 while the next family pays $8000 for exactly the same thing. Everyone pays the same is what they sell you but do not believe this. Everyone pays what they think you are capable of paying. I asked the Las Vegas Director about this and they admited this and stated it is not right but it does happen. I was assured that IPOP would refund the money immediately after IPOP Las Vegas. It has been two weeks and have only got the run around. IPOP is just a way to make huge profits in 4 days.


***Ok, there were varying prices to iPOP. Some paid much less because they came on board with the event extremely late in the game. They weren't given the same attention as the ones who started at the regularly scheduled time. The few who paid a significantly smaller amount were not given headshot/comp card photos, they weren't given the same amount of training, and they weren't allowed to enter into any other competitions other than acting. They also weren't allowed to be in the online iPOP Directory, (a service that allows the agents, cds, and managers to view the students before, during, and after the event). So those that paid less, got less, nes pas?***


Enough is enough I investigated the business license only to find they conducted business for 8 months without a license and had none when I signed their contract for classes and IPOP. I am sure this is only the begining and I will make authorities hold these people liable for the violations. We can't make these people grow morality but we sure can make them follow rules of business.

***I don't know where you did your investigating, but I think you might've been misinformed. The owners of the Vegas JRP would not allow that to happen. I am not calling you a liar, I just think you were given bad info on this.***

IPOP is John Robert Powers. Do not let them tell you any different, I have been to their corporate headquarters here in Vegas and it is only a false front to have mail and calls routed. They run a shell game and never allow you to come face to face once there is a problem. No reputable business has a reason to hide from its clients.

***Again, I think you've been misinformed. Yes, iPOP's office is in Las Vegas, but no, it is NOT JRP. They do work exclusively with JRP, but they are two separate companies. Unfortunately, the only way for you to believe me is through trust, and I can can tell already, you feel you can't do that. For that, I am sorry!***


Their teachers, who are responsible for your childrens wellfare and education, are not required any credentials.What school charges $100 plus an hour for classes and does not have qualified profesionals?

***I don't know who told you this, but again, this is untrue. I know the owners of the school, and the school director, and the teachers themselves. It is a requirement to have at least a bachelor's degree in acting, and at least 5 years experience to teach at a JRP. That is one thing we are EXTREMELY strict on!***

This company is not the only way to further your childrens career so just do some research and be patient. If you haven't yet, do not do business with these people, and if you have do some digging and you will find the truth. Expose these people and hold them liable. Check their backgrounds and enlist your local media to help. They will be more than happy to help expose the exploitation of our children.

***You're right in saying JRP isn't the only way to further your children's career. There are lots of schools out there, theatres that teach, after school programs. Go out and research them! I can only tell you that JRP will do the same, but also offer exposure to agents and cd's, and managers, when most schools do not. JRP also offers much education in marketing and business, when most schools do not. I don't know if you attended this past iPOP. If so, I met you. I came to the school for a last minute run through of the scenes, commercials and monologues. Not sure if you remember me. I was helping out Z for a bit. Please know that the educators, and the directors of JRP have every intention of helping these children out. We do not exploit them, or steal their dreams (as so many people put it). This is an extremely difficult business to be successful at, and we do everything we can to help our students achieve their goals. Of course, not everyone does. In fact, most people don't. This isn't a JRP thing, its just the basic facts of this business.

If your concern lies with financial issues, I can only tell you to read your contracts fully before signing anything. Once you sign a contract, you are telling any and all authorities that you consent to all that lies in it. Just some info for ya. I hope your child DOES succeed, regardless of where he/she gets training. I enjoyed all the performers from Vegas. They were fun to watch, and very talented! Maybe we'll see your child on the big screen one day!***
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AUTHOR: Nick - (U.S.A.)

First of all to vegas father, I think Mattymacks response was uncalled for. It may be someone who wants to smear JRP by posting ignorant comments. You can ignore that person's ramble. Anyone who can't give a response with any intelligence should have their response screened. But, as it seems, there is no such moderator on this site to weed out the stupidity. So anyway, I hope you understand my rebuttal to not be a rude banter with you. I am concerned that you were given bad information about JRP. Please, let me go over a few things with you:


We are all being stolen from!John Robert Powers is charging varying prices for IPOP. Some people pay $1500 while the next family pays $8000 for exactly the same thing. Everyone pays the same is what they sell you but do not believe this. Everyone pays what they think you are capable of paying. I asked the Las Vegas Director about this and they admited this and stated it is not right but it does happen. I was assured that IPOP would refund the money immediately after IPOP Las Vegas. It has been two weeks and have only got the run around. IPOP is just a way to make huge profits in 4 days.


***Ok, there were varying prices to iPOP. Some paid much less because they came on board with the event extremely late in the game. They weren't given the same attention as the ones who started at the regularly scheduled time. The few who paid a significantly smaller amount were not given headshot/comp card photos, they weren't given the same amount of training, and they weren't allowed to enter into any other competitions other than acting. They also weren't allowed to be in the online iPOP Directory, (a service that allows the agents, cds, and managers to view the students before, during, and after the event). So those that paid less, got less, nes pas?***


Enough is enough I investigated the business license only to find they conducted business for 8 months without a license and had none when I signed their contract for classes and IPOP. I am sure this is only the begining and I will make authorities hold these people liable for the violations. We can't make these people grow morality but we sure can make them follow rules of business.

***I don't know where you did your investigating, but I think you might've been misinformed. The owners of the Vegas JRP would not allow that to happen. I am not calling you a liar, I just think you were given bad info on this.***

IPOP is John Robert Powers. Do not let them tell you any different, I have been to their corporate headquarters here in Vegas and it is only a false front to have mail and calls routed. They run a shell game and never allow you to come face to face once there is a problem. No reputable business has a reason to hide from its clients.

***Again, I think you've been misinformed. Yes, iPOP's office is in Las Vegas, but no, it is NOT JRP. They do work exclusively with JRP, but they are two separate companies. Unfortunately, the only way for you to believe me is through trust, and I can can tell already, you feel you can't do that. For that, I am sorry!***


Their teachers, who are responsible for your childrens wellfare and education, are not required any credentials.What school charges $100 plus an hour for classes and does not have qualified profesionals?

***I don't know who told you this, but again, this is untrue. I know the owners of the school, and the school director, and the teachers themselves. It is a requirement to have at least a bachelor's degree in acting, and at least 5 years experience to teach at a JRP. That is one thing we are EXTREMELY strict on!***

This company is not the only way to further your childrens career so just do some research and be patient. If you haven't yet, do not do business with these people, and if you have do some digging and you will find the truth. Expose these people and hold them liable. Check their backgrounds and enlist your local media to help. They will be more than happy to help expose the exploitation of our children.

***You're right in saying JRP isn't the only way to further your children's career. There are lots of schools out there, theatres that teach, after school programs. Go out and research them! I can only tell you that JRP will do the same, but also offer exposure to agents and cd's, and managers, when most schools do not. JRP also offers much education in marketing and business, when most schools do not. I don't know if you attended this past iPOP. If so, I met you. I came to the school for a last minute run through of the scenes, commercials and monologues. Not sure if you remember me. I was helping out Z for a bit. Please know that the educators, and the directors of JRP have every intention of helping these children out. We do not exploit them, or steal their dreams (as so many people put it). This is an extremely difficult business to be successful at, and we do everything we can to help our students achieve their goals. Of course, not everyone does. In fact, most people don't. This isn't a JRP thing, its just the basic facts of this business.

If your concern lies with financial issues, I can only tell you to read your contracts fully before signing anything. Once you sign a contract, you are telling any and all authorities that you consent to all that lies in it. Just some info for ya. I hope your child DOES succeed, regardless of where he/she gets training. I enjoyed all the performers from Vegas. They were fun to watch, and very talented! Maybe we'll see your child on the big screen one day!***
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AUTHOR: Nick - (U.S.A.)

First of all to vegas father, I think Mattymacks response was uncalled for. It may be someone who wants to smear JRP by posting ignorant comments. You can ignore that person's ramble. Anyone who can't give a response with any intelligence should have their response screened. But, as it seems, there is no such moderator on this site to weed out the stupidity. So anyway, I hope you understand my rebuttal to not be a rude banter with you. I am concerned that you were given bad information about JRP. Please, let me go over a few things with you:


We are all being stolen from!John Robert Powers is charging varying prices for IPOP. Some people pay $1500 while the next family pays $8000 for exactly the same thing. Everyone pays the same is what they sell you but do not believe this. Everyone pays what they think you are capable of paying. I asked the Las Vegas Director about this and they admited this and stated it is not right but it does happen. I was assured that IPOP would refund the money immediately after IPOP Las Vegas. It has been two weeks and have only got the run around. IPOP is just a way to make huge profits in 4 days.


***Ok, there were varying prices to iPOP. Some paid much less because they came on board with the event extremely late in the game. They weren't given the same attention as the ones who started at the regularly scheduled time. The few who paid a significantly smaller amount were not given headshot/comp card photos, they weren't given the same amount of training, and they weren't allowed to enter into any other competitions other than acting. They also weren't allowed to be in the online iPOP Directory, (a service that allows the agents, cds, and managers to view the students before, during, and after the event). So those that paid less, got less, nes pas?***


Enough is enough I investigated the business license only to find they conducted business for 8 months without a license and had none when I signed their contract for classes and IPOP. I am sure this is only the begining and I will make authorities hold these people liable for the violations. We can't make these people grow morality but we sure can make them follow rules of business.

***I don't know where you did your investigating, but I think you might've been misinformed. The owners of the Vegas JRP would not allow that to happen. I am not calling you a liar, I just think you were given bad info on this.***

IPOP is John Robert Powers. Do not let them tell you any different, I have been to their corporate headquarters here in Vegas and it is only a false front to have mail and calls routed. They run a shell game and never allow you to come face to face once there is a problem. No reputable business has a reason to hide from its clients.

***Again, I think you've been misinformed. Yes, iPOP's office is in Las Vegas, but no, it is NOT JRP. They do work exclusively with JRP, but they are two separate companies. Unfortunately, the only way for you to believe me is through trust, and I can can tell already, you feel you can't do that. For that, I am sorry!***


Their teachers, who are responsible for your childrens wellfare and education, are not required any credentials.What school charges $100 plus an hour for classes and does not have qualified profesionals?

***I don't know who told you this, but again, this is untrue. I know the owners of the school, and the school director, and the teachers themselves. It is a requirement to have at least a bachelor's degree in acting, and at least 5 years experience to teach at a JRP. That is one thing we are EXTREMELY strict on!***

This company is not the only way to further your childrens career so just do some research and be patient. If you haven't yet, do not do business with these people, and if you have do some digging and you will find the truth. Expose these people and hold them liable. Check their backgrounds and enlist your local media to help. They will be more than happy to help expose the exploitation of our children.

***You're right in saying JRP isn't the only way to further your children's career. There are lots of schools out there, theatres that teach, after school programs. Go out and research them! I can only tell you that JRP will do the same, but also offer exposure to agents and cd's, and managers, when most schools do not. JRP also offers much education in marketing and business, when most schools do not. I don't know if you attended this past iPOP. If so, I met you. I came to the school for a last minute run through of the scenes, commercials and monologues. Not sure if you remember me. I was helping out Z for a bit. Please know that the educators, and the directors of JRP have every intention of helping these children out. We do not exploit them, or steal their dreams (as so many people put it). This is an extremely difficult business to be successful at, and we do everything we can to help our students achieve their goals. Of course, not everyone does. In fact, most people don't. This isn't a JRP thing, its just the basic facts of this business.

If your concern lies with financial issues, I can only tell you to read your contracts fully before signing anything. Once you sign a contract, you are telling any and all authorities that you consent to all that lies in it. Just some info for ya. I hope your child DOES succeed, regardless of where he/she gets training. I enjoyed all the performers from Vegas. They were fun to watch, and very talented! Maybe we'll see your child on the big screen one day!***
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AUTHOR: Mattymack - (U.S.A.)


Dear Sir,

You keep ranting about how you were ripped off, but how? Because someone else paid a different amount? Can you prove it? iPOP and JRP are not the same, as each JRP is an individually owned franchise, so there were literally fifty companies who went to iPOP, which itself is an independent business. Who was supposed to give you a refund? iPOP? JRP? the hotel you stayed at? You sound bitter, if you are going to complain, complain like an adult and make a point, dont just whine because your child didnt do as well as you had hoped.

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