• Report: #225467

Complaint Review: Josh Leichtung, John Casablancas

  • Submitted: Thu, December 14, 2006
  • Updated: Wed, October 06, 2010

  • Reported By:Corona California
Josh Leichtung, John Casablancas
The City Drive Orange, California U.S.A.

Josh Leichtung, John Casablancas Orange County RIP OFF! THEY JUST WANT YOUR MONEY..EVERYBODY GETS A "CALL-BACK" AND YOU CAN'T SEE AN AGENT UNTIL YOU HAVE FINISHED ALLTHEIR CLASSES Orange California

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Josh Leichtung PROVEN INNOCENT. All Accusations PROVEN FALSE!

*Consumer Comment: Bitter and wrong. Do some research about RIPOFFREPORT.COm

*Consumer Comment: My son is doing very well at John Casablancas OC and I would recommend it to others

*Consumer Comment: My son is doing very well at John Casablancas OC and I would recommend it to others

*Consumer Comment: My son is doing very well at John Casablancas OC and I would recommend it to others

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THIS IS A LITTLE LONG BUT IMPORTANT FOR ALL FUTURE MOTHERS OF HOPEFUL CHILD ACTORS TO READ AS I WILL INFORM YOU OF HOW TO FIND AN AGENT WITHOUT BEING RIPPED OFF BY THIS SCAM, SO PLEASE READ ALL OF IT SO YOU MAY SEE HOW I TRIED TO LEGITIMIZE THIS SCHOOL THE BEST I COULD AND HELP MY FELLOW MOTHERS WITH THE GOALS OF GETTING THEIR CHILDREN INTO THE ENTERTAINMENT BUSINESS WITHOUT BEING SCAMMED. I USED TO TEACH SEMINARS ON THIS SUBJECT TO PARENTS JUST LIKE YOU, MY PEERS.

I am an ex-employee who was hired as the Sales Manager a title Josh Leichtung preferred to call "Director of New Talent", not just for my sales expertise, but for my industry connections as my son was a very successful child actor and both of my children have a very reputable and respectable agent registered with the Screen Actor's Guild and they felt that would be a great selling tool.

My kid's agent said she would love to come down and scout for new talent at the school and she would even be happy to set up for some casting directors to accompany her. You can imagine how exciting that was for new students to hear about when they signed up for classes.

THAT IS UNTIL I STARTED SELLING THEM AND JOSH LEICHTUNG DECIDED THAT HE DID NOT WANT TO ALLOW HIS STUDENTS TO BE SEEN BY AGENTS BECAUSE IF THEY GOT SIGNED THAT THEY MIGHT STOP COMING TO CLASS AND MOST OF THEM WERE ON PAYMENT PLANS AND THAT HE WAS AFRAID THAT THEY WOULDN'T PAY HIM ANYMORE, SO HE PUT INTO EFFECT THAT NO STUDENT WOULD BE ALLOWED TO BE SEEN BY AN AGENT OR CASTING DIRECTOR WHEN THEY CAME TO THE SCHOOL. THEY WOULD NEED TO BE FORMER STUDENTS WHO HAD COMPLETED THEIR FULL ROUND OF CLASSES(APPROXIMATELY 6 MONTHS).

No matter how beautiful or talented I thought the student I was signing up, I was no longer allowed to let them sign up for our up-coming Agent Day sign-up sheet. It broke my heart because I knew a few that would have a really great shot at getting signed.

Even at John Robert Powers Agent Days were for EVERY student attending at the time. This man is nothing but money hungry. And don't believe anything about 1-3 years of additional training. It is all a lie to increase the prices. These "refresher courses" he told me are offered during signup which are thousands of dollars more are purposely held only a few times a year and on an inconvenient week night in hopes that many students will be no-shows, just as he likes it, HIS WORDS.

He doesn't care a rat's a*s about a student once they have paid in full. And I doubt they will be informed of any upcoming AGENT DAYS then either. And to think, I missed my best friend's funeral so as not to miss work. Even though I lost my best friend and had bronchitis he still expected me to work 6 days a week. When I could no longer come in he expected me to work from home even though I was breaking company records and outselling everyone there WITH bronchitis which didn't get better until I quit, after he told me my children were no longer welcome at the school.

Money is all that matters to him, not your children or his employees!

I did take days off with a doctor's note but returned before the doctor's date said I could return because JOSH LEICHTUNG said I had to. I kept working sick, with no lunch and still broke company records and he was never happy with me. He was always trying to trick me into cuting my salary in half since the first day there. He said I would make more that way. But I saw through his BS, I ran the numbers, and this hypothetical income was based on making the company about five times the revenue of what it was currently making.

Speaking of running numbers, Josh Leichtung likes to do anything but do any real work, other than wanting me to work sick w/asthma/bronchitis calling people for "auditions" which he only does once a week while all he does the rest of the time in his office is run a bunch of hypothetical numbers. And like I said, EVERYBODY gets a "callback". I'm sure his excuse for working is to count how much he is going to make off of these pooor, hopeful wannabes. I don't know of ANY boss who wastes so much time (6 days a week to be exact)on "what ifs." And yet he treated me like a common telemarketer, not the like the accomplished Sales Manager of a top producing team like I am and have proven myself as.

I was told in the beginning that I would be able to bring in and hire my own Sales Team and that changed, along with everything else daily and I had but ONE person on my so called Team who had never had sales experience, much less phone work. Sales is what makes the money and his receptionist was treated with more respect with less office paperwork and data entry required which takes valuable time away from making the company money.

He also has a RECEPTIONIST/OFFICE MANAGER/VERY, VERY, VERY CLOSE FRIEND, NAMED MARIA, who he often goes to lunch with (which I'm sure his wife would love) who also wanted my job, tattled on me whenever she had the chance (like how I told a beautiful girl who I sold the most expensive package to, one NOBODY had EVER sold before, that my son's Agent would be at the school on Saturday and that she should meet with her and sign up on the sign up sheet.) Well, what do you know, Maria ran immediately to "tell" on me and instead of congratulating me on my sale I was immediately scolded like a 2 year old for telling them that they could meet my son's Agent when she was going to be there that upcoming Saturday.

And then when his son, THE MOLE/SPY also named Josh joined forced with Maria and instead of treating me as the Manager I was both joined against me and bosses ME AROUND, which I could do nothing about since Josh was Josh Leichtung's son. They made no effor of helping me, such as writing a receipt for me while I made sales and even came up with new lists of things that they would no longer be doing that would be new responsibilities of mine which again, put them in a position of power above me and took more time away from my sales and running sales team.

It was the most UNPROFESSIONAL, UNWELCOMING, NO TRAINING, AND UNFRIENDLY ATMOSPHERE I HAVE EVER WORKED IN, and I felt completely ganged up on.

But the final straw was when my SUCCESSFUL child actor son and my just signed daughter were welcomed and encouraged to take classes there and what a good sales tool that would be, after their 4 hours of classes without a lunch break they were climbing the walls on a Saturday and I needed to take them home and finish my work from home and input it onto my laptop. Needless to say, because I took them home I was told by my boss, JOSH LEICHTUNG, that my children were NEVER ALLOWED AT THE SCHOOL EVER AGAIN, because I took them home after being there for51/2 hours without lunch and they were getting restless and I didn't want them to disturb the afternoon sessions, and I could take the rest of my work and call from home and input my set appointments for the last 2 hours on my laptop which I used at the office as well.

Meanwhile, Josh Leichtung was displaying my son's tv CBS tv series pictures, headshots, signed contracts, tv Guide articles, newspaper articles, autographed pictures from Seinfeld and Mad About You cast members, scripts, Talent Contracts, ALL HANGING UP ON THE WALLS ADVERTISING MY SON'S SUCCESS IN ORDER TO ENTICE OTHER MOTHER'S THAT THEIR CHILDREN COULD FIND THAT SAME SUCCESS. YET HE, MY SON IS NO LONGER EVER ALLOWED TO TAKE CLASSES THERE because I got them out of there not to disrupt classes in session and told his son before I left why and that I would finish at home and email my appointments set for the next audition that night?! And I get treated like that with less than 2 hours left and hungry children while he USES MY SON'S FAME TO MAKE MONEY AND HAVE THE NERVE TO TELL ME HE IS NO LONGER WELCOME THERE ALONG WITH MY SWEET 12 YEAR OLD LITTLE GIRL?

MY SON SHOULD HAVE BEEN TEACHING other kids his age THOSE commercial classes(he has done 18 national) NOT TAKING THEM AND JOSH LEICHTUNG SHOULD HAVE BEEN HONORED TO HAVE HIM SIT THROUGH HIS LONG AND BORING LECTURE FOR AN HOUR TO THE KIDS IN THAT CLASS. Use my son as a sales tool, and then TELL ME THAT HE NOR MY SIGNED TEEN MODEL DAUGHTER IS NEVER ALLOWED TO ATTEND CLASSES the week his agent is set to scout for new talent because of my contact with her and setting it up.

Here is all you need to do to find an agent: Go to the Screen Actor's Guild website and they provide a list of all of the registered child and teen agents. All you need to do is send them 4 snapshots and a return self addressed stamped envelope with your child's basic info and if they are interested they will call you and set up a meeting. If they need acting classes or modeling classes they will recommend someone legitimate to you.

I wished that I could have done more to legitimize John Casablancas Orange County, but the final straw was when he told me my children were no longer allowed to attend but yet he wanted to use their success, picutres on the walls and agent to create revenue for himself. ENOUGH SAID.

Your kids don't need these BORING CLASSES, THE WHOLE PLACE IS A SCAM, AND I AM STARTING TO WONDER IF MAYBE JOSH LEICHTUNG REALLY DID SERVE TIME IN PRISON, AS A PREVIOUS POSTER FOUND OUT FROM HER POLICE DETECTIVE HUSBAND. BUYER BEWARE. YOU DON'T NEED THEM TO GET AN AGENT IF YOUR CHILD HAS THE RIGHT LOOK AND PERSONALITY.

Lisa
Corona, California
U.S.A.

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 12/14/2006 07:48 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Josh-Leichtung-John-Casablancas/Orange-California-92879/Josh-Leichtung-John-Casablancas-Orange-County-RIP-OFF-THEY-JUST-WANT-YOUR-MONEYEVERYBO-225467. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 REBUTTAL Individual responds

Josh Leichtung PROVEN INNOCENT. All Accusations PROVEN FALSE!

AUTHOR: JoshL - (United States of America)

JOSH LEICHTUNG BELIEVES IN TRUTH, and you deserve to know it.
This character assassination is a LIE. These lies have irreparably, and unjustly hurt Josh Leichtung and his family.  I hope future employers will take an extra moment to learn the truth, instead of believing this nonsense.

TRUTH #1
JOSH LEICHTUNG IS NOT A FELON, NOR HAS HE EVER BEEN ACCUSED OF ANY CRIME (save the odd speeding ticket).


TRUTH #2
ONLINE VIDEOS & EMPLOYEES PROVE ACCUSATIONS FALSE.


Unfortunately, the bad guys like to throw mud onto the honest guys (me) to prevent us from succeeding where they cant. Character assassinations are serious. I wouldnt wish it on anybody. So please read this and decide for yourself.

My lawyers advice was to not respond to these accusations because they would just get higher in search engine listings if I responded. Well Im sorry I didnt respond immediately, because these lies are still on top some search engine results, even after the OC John Casablancas office closed.

The facts are easily proven here
with videos, and outside collaboration from places that cant be fudged like The State of California, The Security and Exchange Commission, and the Los Angeles Better Business Bureau.

It is sad when employees do not work out.  People sometimes feel the need to lash out, and in the heat of the moment say things to inflict the pain that they are feeling onto others.  It is unfortunate when the things they say arent true.  

So lets just look at truth. In this case the truth isnt as exciting as a story about the big bad boss.  

Truth #1
JOSH LEICHTUNG IS NOT A FELON, NOR EVER BEEN ACCUSED OF ANY CRIME (save the odd speeding ticket).  I have never been in any jail, prison, detention center, or any other kind of detainment center, save touring Alcatraz Island National Park one afternoon a few years ago with out of town relatives. None.  Sorry. Not very exciting.

PROOF SUPPORTS JOSH LEICHTUNG AGAIN:
Simply go to the prison website itself and check.

http://www.in.gov/apps/indcorrection/ofs/ofs

Go to the Security & Exchange Commission website and do a search on Leichtung.

http://www.sec.gov/search/search.htm

Still not convinced?

In order to rise above the dishonest scam artists I went through considerable expense getting my John Casablancas office accredited and approved by The State of California Bureau of Private Postsecondary & Vocational Education. I also became a licensed teacher.

https://app.dca.ca.gov/bppe/view-school.asp?schlcode=44933251  

According to state law I believe both the school and myself personally would be denied a license for being a felon.  Heres the California Code:

http://law.justia.com/california/codes/bpc/480-489.html  

The real rip-off is the $2,000.00 that the Ripoff Report demands to have a third party look into this. That is an outrageous penalty to prove your innocence. Especially when you can go online to GOVERNMENT websites and prove it in one minute FOR FREE.

It would be great if theyd just remove my name from this website when no proof is found of me even being charged with a felony let alone being in jail at all, or being convicted of one.  Unfortunately, we cant depend on the Ripoff Report to do the right thing.

TRUTH #2

Every employee that worked for us at that time was outraged at this persons report because they knew her, and they also knew the truth. The consultant that I brought in from out of town at great expense to train this employee found it appalling to say the least.

As a responsible boss, I would never discuss details of a persons employment and I wont now.  Since this came out, Ive done my best to prevent my angry employees from responding to this sad, and inaccurate story. I see one got through.

If anyone is interested, Ill be happy to put you into contact with the people who were there at the time. Ask them yourself.

TRUTH #3
Anyone caught lying to a potential client was fired immediately. It happened.  

Im a father of two. Im fiercely protective of my kids. So Josh Leichtungs Golden Rule #1 is:  Dont mess with my kids. Period.

Therefore, I would never let anyone in my company lie to your child, or to you about your child.

Unfortunately, yes, there are modeling and acting schools that are rip-offs.  OC John Casablancas was not one of those rip-offs. Thats exactly why I didnt tolerate any lying at my company.  Those rip-off places like to spread lies about the honest people out there.  Unfortunately, they took aim at me.

This is an excerpt from our Employee Manual.

Our credibility with our students is the most important element of our relationship. Misrepresentation to a student/client is against Company policy and against the law. The law provides that an employee is personally liable.

Similarly, all employees are required to conduct themselves with integrity and honesty in all dealings with prospects, students, visitors, and employees. Any employee who makes material misrepresentations, fraudulent statements, or misleading statements to prospects, students, visitors, or employees will be subject to immediate termination of employment. If you observe any such violations, please report them to Josh Leichtung immediately.

TRUTH #4
OC John Casablancas clients saw agents when they were ready.

IRREFUTABLE PROOF SUPPORTS JOSH LEICHTUNG AGAIN!

I doubt anyone could possibly believe what is written here after seeing the video of OC John Casablancas clients being interviewed and specifically asked that question.  Believe what you want, but watch this video and make an informed decision.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWEZ8hYvwuw

The JohnCasablancas1 YouTube.com Channel has more videos if you want to hear things from parents perspective. Real parents who were ripped off elsewhere, say that OCJC was the real deal.  

TRUTH #5
The Los Angeles Better Business Bureau gave us an A- rating. They say, An excellent rating.  In a business where 80% of the companies have a D or F rating Im pretty proud of that.

The Proof Supports Josh Leichtung Again:
Look us up for yourself. www.LABBB.org    

The BBB shows that in the rare instances that we did get a complaint (3 when we were in business) we took care of them as wed like to be taken care of.  What more can you possibly ask?

TRUTH #6
We had over 10,000 people at auditions.  Everyone did NOT get a callback.  That is just absurd.

However, MANY, many people did get callbacks. I strongly believe that one 30 second audition may not give us enough insight to make a good decision about working with somebody.  Would you like your son or daughter dismissed out of hand if they had a bad night? I certainly wouldnt. Remember: Dont mess with my kid!

Heres another excerpt from the Employee Manual

Our Beliefs

We know that professional performing arts training enables people to achieve all they possibly can achieve. It improves communication, helps demonstrate leadership ability, and instills a confidence that lasts a lifetime. Our founders and countless other examples are living proof.

TRUTH #7
Ive been happily married to my wife a few months shy of 30 years now. The innuendo about my relationship with an employee is laughable.  At the time this took place, my son was working for me full time at our John Casablancas offices, and was very good friends with the woman mentioned.  Anyone who worked there (and was awake) at the time knew that. How sad.

It is also sad that the employee felt she needed to change her name because of this outrageous innuendo.

Im proud of my wifes reaction when she read this.  Though outraged at the sheer audacity and absurdity of the entire report, she laughed at the idea of me straying.

The accusations made here against Josh Leichtung are absolutely false. I would like nothing more than to respond to each line point by point.  However, Id risk breaching the employees confidentiality.  I will not sink to that level.  Suffice it to say that nobody present at the time would or could collaborate ANY of this nonsense.  Whereas, they all support Josh Leichtung.

It is easy to hate the big bad boss. However, the truth is that Josh Leichtung is just a guy whose dream was to help kids achieve their dreams of being a model or an actor.

Instead, Josh Leichtung is the victim of a character assassination on the internet.

Im Josh Leichtung and I tell the truth.  The truth shall prevail.
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Bitter and wrong. Do some research about RIPOFFREPORT.COm

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (U.S.A.)

First of all......I know for a fact that "Lisa" was only employed for about a month. She was constantly sick and her kids were disruptive. That is not something someone wants to have bothering other students.

She's lying, bottom line, to try and extort money.

I leave you with this....When you're daughter or son wants to play an instrument...you don't just hand him with a guitar and put him in front of a record label or manager. He needs to know how to play. If JC thinks you need training, that's just what you need so you can be FULLY PREPARED for being in a movie. For being in front of an agent.

Also, I just want to clarify that they put even PROSPECTIVE students in front of agents, so when she stated above that no one was able to see an agent til they were finished was a lie.

I know for a fact her "record breaking skills" was a lie, and to this day only 2 out of hundreds are still a client or have an agent. She is a liar. Look them up on the BBB and see they have an A rating. If they were a scam, it wouldn't be an A.

And regardless of whether they get you signed or not, the classes are a way to improve one's self immensely.

Learn the real facts and don't listen to one bitter ex employee that wasn't there enough to form an opinion.
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My son is doing very well at John Casablancas OC and I would recommend it to others

AUTHOR: Patricia - (U.S.A.)

My son has been attending John Casablancas OC for about 5 months. He has been seen by 4 different talent agents and been called back by every one of them. Josh and the other instructors would not allow him to be seen by agents until they felt my son was polished enough and confident enough. We have now chosen one talent agency and are beginning to work with them.

My son has learned how to do runway modeling, work with other actors, present himself well on-camera, do cold readings, and audition with a monologue. JCOC has also provided on-site headshot photography twice at no extra cost.

While I am sure not every young person going to the school will be wildly successful, attitude is important and goes a long way toward becoming a valuable commodity. Everyone should know that this business is very difficult and most of the talent will not be successful. We are new to the business and do not pretend to know ANYTHING; we take this attitude when we go to meetings and try to absorb everything and learn about the business.
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My son is doing very well at John Casablancas OC and I would recommend it to others

AUTHOR: Patricia - (U.S.A.)

My son has been attending John Casablancas OC for about 5 months. He has been seen by 4 different talent agents and been called back by every one of them. Josh and the other instructors would not allow him to be seen by agents until they felt my son was polished enough and confident enough. We have now chosen one talent agency and are beginning to work with them.

My son has learned how to do runway modeling, work with other actors, present himself well on-camera, do cold readings, and audition with a monologue. JCOC has also provided on-site headshot photography twice at no extra cost.

While I am sure not every young person going to the school will be wildly successful, attitude is important and goes a long way toward becoming a valuable commodity. Everyone should know that this business is very difficult and most of the talent will not be successful. We are new to the business and do not pretend to know ANYTHING; we take this attitude when we go to meetings and try to absorb everything and learn about the business.
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My son is doing very well at John Casablancas OC and I would recommend it to others

AUTHOR: Patricia - (U.S.A.)

My son has been attending John Casablancas OC for about 5 months. He has been seen by 4 different talent agents and been called back by every one of them. Josh and the other instructors would not allow him to be seen by agents until they felt my son was polished enough and confident enough. We have now chosen one talent agency and are beginning to work with them.

My son has learned how to do runway modeling, work with other actors, present himself well on-camera, do cold readings, and audition with a monologue. JCOC has also provided on-site headshot photography twice at no extra cost.

While I am sure not every young person going to the school will be wildly successful, attitude is important and goes a long way toward becoming a valuable commodity. Everyone should know that this business is very difficult and most of the talent will not be successful. We are new to the business and do not pretend to know ANYTHING; we take this attitude when we go to meetings and try to absorb everything and learn about the business.
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