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Complaint Review: K-Designers, Larry Judson, Dan Drotts

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  • Submitted: Tue, November 04, 2008
  • Updated: Tue, February 07, 2012

  • Reported By:Kent Washington
K-Designers, Larry Judson, Dan Drotts
k-designers.com/new_home.asp Nationwide U.S.A.

K-Designers, K Designers, Larry Judson, Dan Drotts Scam consumers and Rip off Sales Rep's Nationwide

*Author of original report: That's why most people dont last a month there.

*Author of original report: K-Designers will rip you off!! Employee or customer... Either way.

*General Comment: A prospective employee

*Consumer Suggestion: Please contact me regarding your experience with this company. I was looking into a position with them soon, please reply soon.

*Consumer Suggestion: Please contact me regarding your experience with this company. I was looking into a position with them soon, please reply soon.

*Consumer Suggestion: Please contact me regarding your experience with this company. I was looking into a position with them soon, please reply soon.

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This company has a call center based in California, where they call people and tell them that they would like to use their home as an advertising home. They send a "Marketing Director" i.e. salesperson, to their home to give an approx. 4 hour presentation.

Their sales pitch is that they have "advertising dollars" they will give them as "discounts" if they purchase on the spot. They train the "marketing directors" to start high and negotiate down by offering discounts in return for things like putting a sign in their yard, or writing a letter of recommendation, etc. They offer many options, NONE of them are legitimate.

They also will offer "free item" such as new garage doors, new exterior lights, design work i.e. scallops in gables, new glass screen doors, an address plaque, shutters, the list goes on. These items are included in the price and are NOT free!

This is a complete scam.

I was a "MD" and they stole many of thousands of dollars from me as an employee. When confronted, they terminated my employment.

They hire new "MD's" every week, send them to CA for training, and most only last, at the most, 1 month.

I would be happy to share more details with you, if you would like. If you are considering working for them, I can explain how they rip you off. If you are considering buying from them, I think I've explained pretty well how they rip you off, but if you would like further detail, I'm happy to do that.

This company is good at getting reports like this removed and claiming they have No "UNRESOLVED" BBB complaints. Key word there is Unresolved! They will pretty much do what you want if you make a complaint on BBB, to a certain extent. Otherwise, I don't know how they always get them either removed or settled.

I met someone, after my termination with the company, that purchased from them and they had a problem right away. They had to make multiple requests for the problem to be corrected. It wasn't until they filed a BBB complaint (at my suggestion) that they fixed the problem.

Go somewhere else for your siding and your windows!

Former Marketing Director
Kent, Washington
U.S.A.

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#1 Author of original report

That's why most people dont last a month there.

AUTHOR: Charity - ()

You're more than welcome to go work there, Just be prepared to be taken. I was in fact a top producer there, so I definitely understood what I was doing. In fact, I was contacted by an attorney, regarding a class action law suit against them. 

Their a very sneaky company and they will take your money. I'm interested in hearing what your experience was like, if you lasted... unless you're an employee that is attempting to negate my complaint.

 

 

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#2 Author of original report

K-Designers will rip you off!! Employee or customer... Either way.

AUTHOR: Charity - (U.S.A.)

I worked for K-Designers a few years ago and still have all my documentation showing exactly how they rip people off!! They cheated me out of approx. $25,000 in a short period of time, approx 4 months. When I figured out their game, I confronted the manager and I was asked to leave... Permenantly. I had been contacted by an attorney looking into filing a class action lawsuit against them... I'm assuming that means there are many others that have been ripped off as well.

You are absolutely correct. You can walk away after the 2 week training... But they are very clever in their scam against the "Marketing Directors" so you don't really notice your being ripped off until its too late. Note: How many jobs have you sold where they told you that you "mismeasured"?? I ALWAYS padded my measurements and yet somehow it was always short!! I ended up driving babk to re-measure with the mgr myself and hmmm... I was OVER on my measurement, not under... Interesting!

You can obviously do what you want with this info... Take it or leave it. You WILL get ripped off though.
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#3 General Comment

A prospective employee

AUTHOR: Rico - (United States of America)

After reading the initial report, I feel that the complaint is unwarranted.  I am not an employee, but may soon be one.  If there is only one complaint with this company, there is little choice anyone can derive but someone who has an axe to grind.  Ken from Washington may have been a less than stellar employee or someone who doesn't understand the sales process.

The facts from K-Designers are as follows; they are in the top rung of companies who promote & sell a superior product.  The company is a "you get what you pay for" type of business.  An "MD" is in fact a salesperson, but the sales call is something the customer wants.  Yes, the advert sign & the rest are "gimmicks" but the product is the seller.  

After the 2 week training period, all you have to do is get up & walk out if it isn't what you want.  I do indeed feel for Ken, but nobody else has agreed with him & it has been over 3 years.  You cannot post a BBB sign unless you comply with the org. standards, this is a FACT.
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#4 Consumer Suggestion

Please contact me regarding your experience with this company. I was looking into a position with them soon, please reply soon.

AUTHOR: Richyrich - (U.S.A.)

Hello, I was interested in taking on a position with the company K-Designers. I would be very interested in speaking with you about your letter and your experience with them. PLease reply to: (((redacted))) or anyone who has experienced this company is welcome as well to send me feedback. Thanks!
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#5 Consumer Suggestion

Please contact me regarding your experience with this company. I was looking into a position with them soon, please reply soon.

AUTHOR: Richyrich - (U.S.A.)

Hello, I was interested in taking on a position with the company K-Designers. I would be very interested in speaking with you about your letter and your experience with them. PLease reply to: (((redacted))) or anyone who has experienced this company is welcome as well to send me feedback. Thanks!
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#6 Consumer Suggestion

Please contact me regarding your experience with this company. I was looking into a position with them soon, please reply soon.

AUTHOR: Richyrich - (U.S.A.)

Hello, I was interested in taking on a position with the company K-Designers. I would be very interested in speaking with you about your letter and your experience with them. PLease reply to: (((redacted))) or anyone who has experienced this company is welcome as well to send me feedback. Thanks!
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