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  • Submitted: Fri, October 19, 2007
  • Updated: Mon, June 21, 2010

  • Reported By:Germantown Other
KASAMBA
www.kasamba.com Internet U.S.A.

KASAMBA List of "psychics" which predictions never happened Worldwide Internet

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: I did counsel clients to beware of addictions

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Occult Is Not To Be Abused Or It Will Abuse You

*Consumer Comment: SHILLS, FAMILY, FRIENDS OF SCAMSTERS RALLY AROUND THEM UNDER ASSUMED NAMES TO LIE FOR THEM

*Consumer Comment: I had a totally different experience.........

*UPDATE Employee: Kasamba LP Experts (comment on the list posted above)

*UPDATE Employee: Kasamba LP Experts (comment on the list posted above)

*UPDATE Employee: Kasamba LP Experts (comment on the list posted above)

*UPDATE Employee: ok wow..

*UPDATE Employee: Response to Susan Re: Ethical Practices

*Consumer Suggestion: Ethical practice

*Consumer Comment: It's not about revenge

*UPDATE Employee: The fact of the matter

*Consumer Comment: What are you talking about Patti?

*Consumer Comment: Psychics?

*Consumer Comment: Psychics?

*Consumer Comment: Psychics?

*Consumer Comment: Psychics?

*Author of original report: "Katie"

*Author of original report: NO NEED TO SHAME:))

*Consumer Comment: 4 years of readers whose predictions never came true

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Another prime example of hiding behind client status

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Another prime example of hiding behind client status

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Another prime example of hiding behind client status

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Another prime example of hiding behind client status

*Consumer Comment: Shame on you Katie

*Consumer Comment: Unbelievable

*UPDATE Employee: Please identify yourself

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Ok, here is my list of "psychics" which predictions never came to pass... beginning from Jan 07

(don't be shocked, I spent A WHOLE LOT- be happy that I can already tell you)

Miss Bathsheba

Iris-the-Messenger (rude as well)

Spiritual Goddess

Ambers Light

Venutian_Visionary

Margret Mitchell

Psychic_Destiny

Karma Apple

OneGoodSoul

Precious Soul

Anne Maclean

zeljka

Psychic Suzanna

PsychoZipper

aurareader Cordelia

Tiff European Love Reader

amber humphreys

EnchantedMoon

Susan Axacoava

THIS WAS FROM JAN TILL JUNE

after all their predictions didn't come to pass, I thought I took the wrong readers...LOL
I gave it another try and took the BEST OF THE BEST, just to see that things still didn't come true...
the last timeframe was mid oct... it startet from august where I was supposed to get contact.... till now- NOTHING AT ALL, just depressions and not able to move on, cause HE IS LOVING ME....LOL, what a crap!!! I am done with you kasamba psychics!

"the best of the best"- predictions didn't happen either

Tamtemia (after her prediction didn't come true I got a free reading, she told me things have simply changed...lol)

Estrella (nice lady though)

GuidancebyWind

Alexandra (VERY RUDE AS WELL)

Angels for you (the biggest joke)

Voodoo Love Queen

DbikGiizhigateKwe Moonie

AUROEALIS

MitMystic

Daniel Drew

EnchantressMoon

Edith OLeary

Psychic Emily Rose

Sara fina

Azzrian Visions

AnnetteMarie4u (I think a BIG liar)


So now you can see how deep this spiral can sink- yes- I was adiccted- but not anymore, since nothing happened and I am in dept.

I hope I could help you with my list, please be more cautious than me!!

Youwillknowwho
Germantown
Germany

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#1 UPDATE EX-employee responds

I did counsel clients to beware of addictions

AUTHOR: Mandy - (United States of America)

With Kasamba, sometimes I would disconnect before the person could hire if they seemed like the type that was getting too many readings or was like "read me now right away, tell me everything in 1 minute" type attitude. If they hired, however, then you risk a bad rating, right? Which ratings cant get removed. And ratings are there to protect the consumer rather than the psychic so why are you complaining? You have the option to rate calls. Long as they are getting the past right as the future is never in stone anyways.

I had many kasambee's hire even after my telling them I didn't think I could help them how they wanted, because honestly, I just wanted to help people so is why I eventually left the site because too many people don't want help and just want you to feed their addictions. When I didn't say what the kasambee wanted to hear (all outcomes), I got a bad rating anyways. Seems like a no win situation for the psychic, which yes, I do think some are abusive and will take advantage for money, but some clients can be abusive too and are going to these psychics for underhanded intentions ie spells to manipulate other people into loving you, wanting other peoples marriages to fail, wishing ill on others, curses etc etc. When I would hear these things I would advise the person to stop seeing psychics altogether, including me and take their power back. A few thanked me, many didnt care though. I had kasambee's get mad at me for not telling them what they wanted to hear. So, maybe just try going on the site yourself and being a psychic with honest intentions before you judge since you seem to think you know it all anyways.

Also, basically, you are asking for psychics to completely quit their job because the whole site basically operates on addiction and the psychic would have to tell everyone who came to them. But, its the clients who are creating the demand and if you read the fine print and legalities its an "entertainment industry" "for entertainment only" so no scam is going on really. Just ignorance. To blame psychics in an entertainment industry, you have to blame all people who work in gambling industries, tv, porn, the spiritual movement with all its self-help guru's etc etc. One answer... Take your power back, stop blaming and just go forward admitting you did something that was meant only for entertainment purposes, didn't do your research, don't really know what being psychic means or is about or what it should be used for, abused it, and now, suffer the consequences.

Also, if I did have a client who came back to me a lot, or contacted me every day, I often did counsel them on psychic addiction and would try to steer them away from outcome based readings. Some of them if not on the site (because you cant really control who contacts you on Kasamba) I would tell i couldn't see anymore because I felt I wasn't helping and feeding an addiction. I did however get a few bad ratings trying to attempt this with those who did not wish to hear that.

Again like I said in another post, there are lots of free venues to get readings such as psychic radio shows, online groups offering free reading exchanges etc. Some of the readers you mention above have their own shows and if you got to know them or listen, you will understand they are all about helping others take their power back or learn law of attraction etc etc. It's just hard to do this in a 2 minute reading where someone is rushing you through.


Hope this helps.
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#2 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Occult Is Not To Be Abused Or It Will Abuse You

AUTHOR: Mandy - (United States of America)

I agee with Katie. People who are psychic addicts need to understand the nature of their addiction and understand life offers free will before blaming psychics who take on tons of negative energy trying to support an addict. I no longer read for these kinds of sites because you can't win and the addict usually ends up spiralling further and further into their own addiction taking no accountability for their situation or for free will. In the least you are paying for the time for someone to listen to an issue, which yeah, should cost because some of the issues one deals with are very heavy or off-balance. Secondly, when you get to be an addict, you ask the same question over and over again, which can make it really hard for the psychic who is honestly trying to help.... and yes not all outcomes are set in stone and psychics are not God and things are read as symbols and nuances.

If you understand what calling kasamba is and read the fine print it is for "entertainment purposes only" and at the point you are giving too much of your power away to outcomes, that says more about the addict then the psychic who yes there are some really bad ones who will take advantage of others addictions for money. Those are the ones who offer usually spells to change how someone else feels about you or want you to pay for candle work or meditations. They will tell you that everything bad happening to you is due to curse from some ex or something or negative energy. But some psychics genuinely want to help others and are taking on others problems through so much listening... and if you think its so easy, and to crash someones hopes who is so invested in an outcome coming true they can't see reality anymore, I dare you to try it yourself.

So, when seeing psychics realize:
1. its an "Entertainment" industry and if you really need therapy you should get professional help. The very fact someone is posting something psychic as a scam is bizzarre and insinuate the person does not really understand what its about.
2. If you are an addict and cant let go of situations and need psychics to tell you someone is coming back or when someone will call, then you probably arent being balanced enough to see a psychic for the right reasons, which is for growth, guidance (as opposed to outcome focus) etc.
3. When you mess with the occult it can start messing back with you. Go ahead buy any tarot deck and ask the same question over and over. Eventually the other side gives up and gives confusing answers because what else can it do?
4. There is free will, any psychics who promises 99% accuracy with timelines etc etc. Those are the psychics that are likely frauds. If you research the internet by reputable psychics, you will learn the most accurate timelines can be is 60% by the best psychics due to free will. Even in the medium, alison dubois can change outcomes by acting on what is shown in her dreams.
5. Why not use psychic radio instead? Its free. Then you can play and get entertainment without feeling ripped off. try psychiconair, hay house shows or a variety of other psychic radio shows.
6. If they are getting your emotions right, past and the current situation then you know they are good. Future and timelines aren't set in stone. But still its not a perfect science. Go ahead by a tarot deck and try yourself...
7. When you deal with the intuitive world, sometimes one can get interference. When you abuse the occult and get too many readings sometimes you can get interference that may be coming off of you other than the psychic. I believe psychic addiction is caused by entity attachments and seeing psychics often makes it worse because the entities feed off of that need for control and fear. Its telling you that the occult is being used to trigger the wrong type of help and those beings aren't always dependable. Shield yourself with light, make sure you walk into a reading with the right intentions and the right questions, not out of fear, compulsion or need for control. Ask for advice on how to emotionally handle a situation or to move on instead of "is my ex gonna call". Those are the questions the higher beings more relate to because higher beings do not like to take someones power away.
8. I doubt very many people who are not honestly gifted in some way could survive more than a week on these sites. I've known psychics who were gifted but only mediocre get on these sites and never be able to make it because they just aren't psychic enough. You do require connection and if you think a non psychic or fake could get on Kasamba and get a clientelle and 5 star ratings, then try it yourself.

I left the psychic world of keen and kasamba because it is harder than you think to stay in the light when you are dealing with darkness... When you get addicted people wanting readings out of manipulation rather then growth come to you and expect like in 5 seconds you can see everything about them and know everything. Many don't really know how to use a psychic to help them rather than to just do as they bid and give them outcomes.

Sorry to say this, but I know some of the people on the list. They are good people working on a bad site which is prone to feeding others addictions rather than using their gifts to help people in the right way, though many of the psychics who might try to help people in the right way not feeding outcomes but giving divinely guided advice me be left a rating like "no connection, only gave advice" etc etc.
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SHILLS, FAMILY, FRIENDS OF SCAMSTERS RALLY AROUND THEM UNDER ASSUMED NAMES TO LIE FOR THEM

AUTHOR: Joe - (U.S.A.)

THESE FAKE PSYCHIC HOTLINES ARE NOTHING MORE THAN SCAM OPERATIONS DESIGNED TO DRAW IN PEOPLE WHO WANT SOMETHING TO HAPPEN SO BAD THAT THEY ARE WILLING TO SUSPEND COMMON SENSE, THEIR SENSE OF CAUTION AND LOGIC AND WILLING TO PAY BIG BUCKS...

AND SO THEY DO

FOR SOME VERY EXPENSIVE CONVERSATION AND SOME LIES THAT IS WHAT THEY WANT TO HEAR AND SOME SPELLS THAT ARE NEVER CAST OR CURSE REMOVALS THAT ARE NEVER PERFORMED OR WHATEVER THE FAKER ON THE HOTLINE PROMISED, RECOMMENDED,COMMUNICATED

ALL BILLED BY THE MINUTE...

TAKES A LONG TIME TO VENT ALL OF THAT DISAPPOINTMENT,HATE, SENSE OF ANGUISH, COMPOSE YOURSELF IN THE MIDST OF THE TEARS, POURING OUT YOUR HEART TO SOMEBODY WHO MIGHT BE DOING LAUNDRY, WATCHING TV, WORKING A CROSSWORD OR DOING ANYTHING EXCEPT CARING ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING EXCEPT HOW THEY CAN KEEP YOU ON THE PHONE AS LONG AS POSSIBLE AND GETTING SNIPPETS OF YOUR CONVERSATION TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THE MOST MONEY OUT OF YOU AS POSSIBLE AND ASCERTAIN HOW MUCH MONEY YOU CAN BE CONNED OUT OF.

DISTRESSED PEOPLE OR PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST CURIOUS TAKE A LONG TIME TO BE ABLE TO ARTICULATE WHY THEY HAVE CALLED WHEN MINUTES ARE BILLABLE FOR AS MUCH MONEY --- IN MANY INSTANCES--- AS MINIMUM WAGE PAID PEOPLE MAKE PER HOUR!

PROFITABLE HUSTLE AND A LOT LESS RISKY THAN SETTING UP A PERMANENT STOREFRONT LOCATION TO SCAM PEOPLE WITH THE FORTUNE TELLING CON.

THE FAKERS ARE TAKING YOUR MEASURE WHILE THEY ENCOURAGE YOU TO TALK ON THE PHONE FOR A LONG TIME AND A GOOD SCAMMER HAS YOU FIGURED THE MOMENT HE OR SHE FINDS OUT WHAT YOU HAVE CALLED FOR... IT DOESN'T TAKE A PSYCHIC MASTER TO LEARN THAT YOU WANT YOUR LOVER OR HUSBAND OR WIFE BACK OR TO GET ECONOMIC PROSPERITY OR A MIRACULOUS HEALING (GET MEDICAL HELP!) OR HUNDREDS OF POSSIBLE VARIATIONS AND YOU ARE WILLING TO DO OR PAY WHATEVER YOU THINK IT TAKES TO GIVE YOU YOUR UNCHANGED SITUATION BACK... ABRUPT CHANGES ARE OFTEN MET WITH RESISTANCE AND UNHAPPINESS, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE PERCEIVE THEM AS BAD, THREATENING ...

THESE FAKERS ARE THE LAST PEOPLE YOU SHOULD BE CALLING. YOU SHOULD BE CALLING FRIENDS AND FAMILY MEMBERS... MAYBE THEY SAID I TOLD YOU SO AND SAW THIS COMING... CALL THEM ANYWAY AND ASK THEM FOR ADVICE.

BUT IF YOU HAVE MONEY TO WASTE AND NO DEPENDENTS, AND YOU KNOW WHAT CAN HAPPEN TO YOU AND YOU CHOOSE TO DO THIS ANYWAY, DON'T COME AND POST:" O POOR ME, I WAS SIPPED OFF, BOO HOO ON THE RIP OFF REPORT."
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#4 Consumer Comment

I had a totally different experience.........

AUTHOR: Mieke - (U.S.A.)

I've just spent the last hour reading all your horror stories about Kasamba/LivePerson and Robin Bluedragon in particular. While I COMPLETELY agree that the ethics of LivePerson as a company suck - you can never get hold of them, they don't answer the phone, they suspend accounts - I have had a completely different experience with Robin. I posted a general request for a spell and got about 40 responses from various psychics who wanted to 'help' me. A lot of them wanted to take me off-site which LP does not permit and most of them just responded by saying "Contact me live" and I figured they were just looking for my money. Robin, however, offered to do a spell for me. He was willing to answer my questions about the spell, what he would do, how he would do it, when he would do it, etc. without charging me a penny. After the spell was done, he answered all my questions about how it went - free.

Then I had an email reading done by him. It was 30 pages long and very accurate (it was not the first reading of its kind I'd had). He then spent days answering my questions about the reading and what certain things meant and never charged me another penny. In fact, we still chat every day - sometimes about nothinhg but the weather and our kids, etc. And when I insist that he let me pay for his time, he invoices me for $5. Whether or not his psychic prediction comes true remains to be seen but I, like many of you, became addicted to readings and did them nearly every day. I've spoken to 20 or 30 psychics over the past year. The trick, I think, is not to tell them anything at all other than your first name. If they can come up with specific information about you or your situation without you "feeding" it to them by telling them the question you want answered, you've a pretty good idea they're the real thing. And if they all tell you the same thing(s), it's probably gonna happen. So all you bitter bitches, knock off the shit. You probably just didn't like what you heard.....
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Kasamba LP Experts (comment on the list posted above)

AUTHOR: CC - (U.S.A.)

The list posted by youwillknowho is full of frauds. Have to say some of them are long gone or changed their names so you wouldn't be able to find them now. I can think of one or two in both lists that are good, the rest are just in it for the money or don't have a clue.
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Kasamba LP Experts (comment on the list posted above)

AUTHOR: CC - (U.S.A.)

The list posted by youwillknowho is full of frauds. Have to say some of them are long gone or changed their names so you wouldn't be able to find them now. I can think of one or two in both lists that are good, the rest are just in it for the money or don't have a clue.
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Kasamba LP Experts (comment on the list posted above)

AUTHOR: CC - (U.S.A.)

The list posted by youwillknowho is full of frauds. Have to say some of them are long gone or changed their names so you wouldn't be able to find them now. I can think of one or two in both lists that are good, the rest are just in it for the money or don't have a clue.
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#8 UPDATE Employee

ok wow..

AUTHOR: Loverules - (U.S.A.)

so good for you.. one of the problems is that you seem to be addicted to readings and some people are.. one of my clients teased me and said bet i got tired of being asked so many questions... she said it is 1 800 get answers..
it was funny
one of the psychics who was on kasamba got fired for having people hire her off kasamba.. she then opened her own site called our spiritual connection.... and demanded that we bring our clients from keen and kasamba to her...ok
well.. we did not..and so we left her site.. but really .. she was someone who was more concerned about money .. and getting it...
they fired her for stealing clients and making them pay her directally ... they do fire people for mis treating clients.. and well .. there are alot of psychic frauds.. and they make the rest of look bad.. this nic is not the one i read under.. but i have read for 40 years and have been told i am very good... and i can describe people..i dont scam... i spread love and light.. peace.. and i charge under 2 dollars...
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Response to Susan Re: Ethical Practices

AUTHOR: Melodie - (U.S.A.)

Susan I have kept my mouth shut about this long enough.

I don't plan to keep coming back here and reading all the responses so I'll try to tackle as many of your allegations in this one post as possible.

The fact is, many of the experts do tell clients not to get so many readings and to be careful buying into the parlour tricks and scams, and I actually gave you a good hour or more of my time (for free) in live chat doing exactly that. We only spoke one time (as far as I know), but I did also follow up with you when you emailed me asking about my impressions of certain other experts.

Neither of us have a record of that live chat, but we do have the emails back and forth, and I did notice that you distorted the content of those emails when you posted your "Aha!" email accusing me and Raven Franks of being one and the same person.

Yes I did tell you I felt that Raven was an ethical reader, as I did with several others you asked me about. I had only to go on impressions because I don't know most of the other experts personally. And I did this as a favor to you, not to try to trick you into something. I told you to find ONE or TWO people you trusted and to stick with them so that you didn't wind up in the very predicament you are in now, ie scammed out of thousands of dollars and angry enough about it to want to lash out at everyone. I don't know Raven and I have no reason to believe she's a scammer. But for your information the reason she and I showed up together when you did a search for us is because we were doing a charity event together (along with a dozen or so other readers) and had listed the names of the other participating experts in our profiles.

Why you took this positive event and turned it into something sinister is beyond me. I do these every month and I can easily present you or anyone who wants to research that claim whatever you need to do so. Raven did it with me one month and for all I know she's done others. But that's neither here nor there. The fact is, you turned what was a very positive thing into something negative and ugly and then came over here and presented it as fact. In this light you are just as guilty of disseminating misinformation as the psychics who you are accusing of giving you false readings are.

As for me declining to read for you. If I remember (and I had to review our emails to refresh my memory on this), we were cut off after almost an hour of free (unhired) discussion. When you emailed me and we talked about a live session, I told you straight out I did NOT have a good feeling about your situation. This didn't cause you to lose money, did it? When you think about it, didn't it save you money? Or are you so invested now in turning that kindness into an agenda (I presume so that I could then send all the details of our chat to someone else? but then who would that be -- considering you didn't ask me about anyone you had not been to before, only those you already had).

As far as declining certain clients or not reading for them, yes I do this sometimes. Just as I did for you. In your case, it truly was out of concern. But it's not always. Sometimes I'm just TIRED. I do give away a lot of free time and any one of my regular clients can attest to that. Sometimes I just don't think I can help or I feel the client will not be receptive to what I have to say. But honestly does it really matter WHY? I mean would you want to have someone say "click hire" if they didn't feel connected to you or didn't think they could help in your situation or just didn't like you? Why would you want to pay someone to give you a reading who was not going to be able to help you? for whatever reason! Again there is not always some hidden agenda for declining a certain client and in the end it SAVES you the cost of what could have been an expensive live session.

I know right now you are so intent on attacking and being angry that there's no way you'll see the value in any of what has been stated above, but for what it's worth, my not reading for you after we got cut off that day was a genuine attempt to help you and it was done out of concern for your situation. I don't know why you want to bite the hand that feeds you -- but I can tell you that I am on the same page as you are in many ways and would like to see you preserve your credibility by at least getting the facts straight.

Do I think there are experts scamming clients on Kasamba? YES. Do I think this practice needs to be stopped? YES. I am very vocal about this and believe me it's earned me some enemies.

But beyond that, you and I are clearly NOT in agreement. I don't believe that every psychic on Kasamba is a scam artist. I don't believe that every psychic on Kasamba is trying to string clients along and deliver false hopes just so they can line their pockets. And if I were to for one minute believe that everything posted on these boards that fits into MY logic were true, I'd be ashamed of myself for not having an independant thought.

Do you think that Kasamba has a caveat in their expert agreement that states "Sorry but we only take con artists. If you are an honest, kind, ethical or spiritual person please do not apply"? Of course not. And while I'm in 100 percent agreement with you that there are many who are not honest and who nevertheless slipped in, it is simply not true that every psychic on Kasamba is there because they are trying to take advantage of vulnerable clients.

A word about the infamous KU. Yes I'm a member as I have been with many other expert groups. Many experts belong to more than one expert group, including the ones who came in here posing as clients and posting disparaging things about KU. These experts were either kicked out or not admitted into KU in the first place -- due to proof of unethical behavior. Do you see the irony in this? In fact the VERY first posts here on ripoff reports about Kasamba were made by two such disgruntled experts who were trying to discredit both KU and certain members of KU (including me of course and for the record, that was the only other time I ever responded to anything on these boards until now). One of those experts (disguised as a client) was never admitted to KU due to her own fraudulent practices, and she was exposed in those very first threads. The other one was kicked out. They and a few others (mainly Mirror of Life and her gang of scammers, etc.) created lots of fake client accounts, posted here and on client boards this garbage about KU members sharing transcripts, until the distortion of the facts became "truth" and has now become legend.

But for what it's worth I will say once again that KU members do not share transcripts and that the main purpose of that group, which is to discuss technical and site issues, has been preserved. I definitely don't expect you to believe this, if I were reading all the garbage posted on here about KU I probably wouldn't believe it either. But that is the truth and shame on anyone who has parroted that mis-information without actually researching it for themselves.

As a final thought here Susan and others who may be blindly attacking ALL the Kasamba experts, please consider that while I don't agree with every single thing I've seen you post here, I do believe you have a right to be angry and that you have made some valid points. I'm asking that you give me and some of the other experts who have been unfairly targetted the same consideration. Since I don't intend to come back here and follow up on any of this, please feel free to contact me if you feel the need. You know where to find me.
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#10 Consumer Suggestion

Ethical practice

AUTHOR: Susan - (U.S.A.)

One issue NEVER seems to come up in the "Expert" responses. WHY don't the "Experts" have the ethical practice of advising a customer that they shouldn't request so many readings, should wait longer before readings, etc. Since every "Expert" that replies on this site continually claims "we are unstable", etc. WHY did the "Expert" as a credentialed "Minister", "Counselor" and all the additional "titles" they give themselves be able to identify that a customer is in need, demonstrating poor judgement and not proceeding in their best own interest by continuing to contact "Expert" after "Expert" TRYING to decipher WHY they are getting the SAME exact "reading" from every "Expert" and NONE of those "readings" are proving to be true. WHY are all these self-proclaimed "Experts" with countless credentials and with so many of them being "Ordained Ministers"....wouldn't the expectation be to identify someone is in a bad way or emotionally distraught.
NO IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY AND THE REPEAT CUSTOMER.
This is the issue I dare any "Expert" to address without stating "the customer is responsible for their actions", "they contacted the reader", "the pressed hire". Well, after being the victim of the relentless compassion, kindness, insistance that they were correct and encouragement to come back I was subjected to - you'd understand. Clearly, if a person isn't in the vulnerable state the customers are in - they wouldn't be making contact in the first place.
I think someone on Kasamba should respond to how so few "Experts" do take the time to point out that pursuing "readings" so often is not in their best interest. I mean Raven Franks boasts about her "counseling" abilities, yet she would do 10 "readings" a day if I contacted her. Any credentialed or legitimate "Counselor" would have identified the desperation of the customer and advised them to take a step back and look at what they were subjecting themselves to. When I told Raven Franks about my credit card double billing issues with Kasamba, that I notified my credit card company and that I wouldn't request any more "readings" until it was resolved....she responded by (and I have it in writing!!) stating, "Well, I certainly hope I get paid for all my hard work". The other issue is she NEVER did 1 "reading" free of charge, mentioned anything about the amount of money I was racking up on my credit cards or suggested I elongate the time between "readings". She would have done a "reading" for me on the Operating Table if she could have. And YES, I contacted and hired her....but, what about you "Ministers", "Master's Degree in Psychology", "Addiction Counselors" and all the other fabricated credentials you all claim....what about your ethics? What about your claims of what you can do for your clients? You ALL insist you "are here to help". How does allowing someone to use poor judgement while under emotional stress fit that claim? And before I get the "take responsibility" rebuttal....WHEN ARE THE "EXPERTS" GOING TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR PART OF ALL OF THIS??
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#11 Consumer Comment

It's not about revenge

AUTHOR: Lucy - (Australia)

It's about telling others not to waste their money.
Educating and warning people not to fall prey to this belief that psychics have all the answers, because clearly they don't.
I think most people accept responsibility for their own actions. They have learned their lesson and are now warning others not to go down the same path.
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#12 UPDATE Employee

The fact of the matter

AUTHOR: Katie - (U.S.A.)

Houlahay
Bedford, Massachusetts
U.S.A.

4 years of readers whose predictions never came true
I have used Kasamba off and on for the last 4 years. I spent a bunch of money myself, even after I knew the readings were not coming true.

**This is not only sad, but indicative of the core problem and issue here. Houlahay (like Janice and the rest of her group) admits that she spent money "even after" knowing readings were not coming true.

Who's to fault? The readers? Or Houlahay, who CHOSE to continue getting readings? The delusion is clear here, as with the rest of Janice's group.

One of you claimed that my previous post made no sense. In what universe? To any well-educated, literate, LOGICAL THINKING person, it makes perfect sense.

What makes NO sense, is the number of you who continue to frequent psychics EVEN NOW, even after all of your ranting.

For example, Janice - your so-called leader, CONTINUES to call many psychics on Kasamba. So it's a bit of the pot calling the kettle black here. If Janice supposedly "knows" that all psychics are fake, and has such major complaints about Kasamba, then why does she continue to call psychics?

This is not anyone's fault BUT Janice, due to her mental instability. Her so-called reports are incoherent rants.

All of you who whine that you've somehow been duped... all of you CHOSE to call psychics... and continue to call psychics!

Some serious denial is going on here to anyone sane enough to see it.
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#13 Consumer Comment

What are you talking about Patti?

AUTHOR: S - (United Kingdom)

Err...we are not experts so "apology" accepted.

Clients do not "skip" around from expert to expert to continuously hear what they want to hear. Trying to find the real deal is more the point actually. That is where K as a company and scammers are quids in.

Of course we remember what they have said. Hard not to with a client history folder detailing every last single reading.

You really ought to be more aware of your facts and figures Patti before posting in future. Like we are.

As far as any group is concerned...we are a part of kasambavictims. No other group as we are not experts. If you don't like that hard core fact, as it does not give your argument and accusations any weight..tough. Thats the truth and if you don't like it or believe it that is your issue not ours. Oh by the way, Im happy to tell you our little group is growing in numbers by the day.

If some experts have not been mentioned...its because we havent got anything on them that proves them to be scammers and liars. Unlike so called experts on here we don't just shout and scream lies and verbal abuse at clients/experts. All information is backed up with HARDCORE EVIDENCE. Hard to comprehend? Im sure it is. Never mind.

In response to your quote "Do you honestly believe that actual clients come here to look up Kasamba's business practices before hiring and are at all swayed by inane and catty postings" err yes we did and they do. Not right away as unfortuantely the scammers and liars and fat cats at K get their portion of the ill gained dollars before people realise they have bought into a fake and scamming service. But that will change/improve. (already is doing actually).

As far as you reporting us to ROR? LOLOL, good luck! Thats original though I will give you that!
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#14 Consumer Comment

Psychics?

AUTHOR: Jim - (U.S.A.)

If you were really Psychic, you'd know the complainer's name, the very fact you don't is an admission that your "Powers" don't exist.

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#15 Consumer Comment

Psychics?

AUTHOR: Jim - (U.S.A.)

If you were really Psychic, you'd know the complainer's name, the very fact you don't is an admission that your "Powers" don't exist.

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#16 Consumer Comment

Psychics?

AUTHOR: Jim - (U.S.A.)

If you were really Psychic, you'd know the complainer's name, the very fact you don't is an admission that your "Powers" don't exist.

Jim D
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#17 Consumer Comment

Psychics?

AUTHOR: Jim - (U.S.A.)

If you were really Psychic, you'd know the complainer's name, the very fact you don't is an admission that your "Powers" don't exist.

Jim D
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#18 Author of original report

"Katie"

AUTHOR: Youwillknowwho - (Germany)

to your info:

rude is not telling me what I didn't want to hear- rude is something else- her clients will know what I am talking about. Rude is to tell someone fairy tales on purpose as well- to keep someone coming back again and again!

I have more respect to readers who were brave enough to tell me the truth, unfortunately it only have been 3 of them all. They were right, from what I can see now...
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#19 Author of original report

NO NEED TO SHAME:))

AUTHOR: Youwillknowwho - (Germany)

well, for what should I shame? All I am doing is mention the readers which haven't been accurate for me, nothing more. My name isn't important to tell the truth.

None of their predictions came to pass (again for me).... but with that amount of readers and none prediction came to pass, isn't it more than obviously that they told me what I wanted to hear and not the truth?
I am not talking of 1 reader here, a whole bunch have been wrong!!
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#20 Consumer Comment

4 years of readers whose predictions never came true

AUTHOR: Houlahay - (U.S.A.)

I have used Kasamba off and on for the last 4 years. I spent a bunch of money myself, even after I knew the readings were not coming true. I have spent as low as 50 cents a minute to as much as $10.00 a minute. The $10.00 readings were no better than the 50 cents reading. The only difference: the higher priced readers are ruder and expect you to believe them no matter what they say. The lower price readers are nicer and seem to be more willing to accept your difference of opinion regarding their reading. Here goes my list:

Well, I went to the Kasamba site to write down all the readers that had given me fake readings and the list was over 50 so I just gave up writing everyone down. Clearly, they all are fake. Anyway, I will admit that all my fake readers were very nice to me. A few of the readers hung up or refused to give me a reading, but most of them were very nice.

What I did notice, however, is that all of them gave me the same FAKE reading. How could they all give me the same FAKE reading? Something is amiss on that site. With that said, the reader that gave me a false reading that impressed me the most was ONE INTUITIVE SOUL. In a reading about 3 years ago, she told me the name of someone that was interested in the same person I was interested in. I had never told her or another reader the person's name so I was very impressed. Her reading, however, was the same as the other readers and the reading was false. I tried her again on keen.com and the reading from that site was false as well..

Another reader who impressed me, but gave a false reading was DAVID-JAMES. He went right into why I was calling with details, but the reading was false. I called him a couple of years later and he gave the exact same reading--something about the monsoon or some type of love during this moon or whatever. It was apparent at that point that his readings too were fake.

Now, for the fakest readers I have had:

Master Z - he told me that a guy that hates me and has for the last 3 years is my SOULMATE and that we were lovers in a past life

CaraMiche - told me the same thing, that the guy that has hated me for the last three years is my eternal flame and that our "lights" match or something like that--CaraMiche used to work for a telephone psychic line and she told me that on the telephone and on Kasamba

Although I have only discussed four readers (DAVID-JAMES, ONE INTUITIVE SOUL, MASTER Z, and CARAMICHE) please remember that all my readings on Kasamba were fake; I just could not list all the readers here because they are too numerous.

When I think of all the money I have wasted, I think, "how sad." How sad for all of us who believe in "psychics" and waste hard earned money on them.
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#21 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Another prime example of hiding behind client status

AUTHOR: Patti - (U.S.A.)

Here is another prime example of a backstabbing expert hiding behind client status.
If I'm wrong and you are not an expert, I apologize. However, I would like to point out that anyone who skips around getting readings from no less than 35 experts in a matter of months can't expect to be taken seriously.

Clients like that are just skipping around to find a reader who will tell them what they want to hear. Who did and who didn't can't be determined by a list of 35 experts. I would bet you don't even remember what any of them said except that one who told you what you wanted to hear and you told the rest of the readers "but other readers said..." You were so sure that getting communication meant that you were reconciling. It probably meant some peripheral comment made by a mutual aquaintance or he talked to you under another screen name in some chat room or responded to some comment on a message board. I'm sure it was that "strong connection" that made you so sure it was destiny.

That is, of course, if you are actually a client. Or maybe you're one of those experts that get reading after reading after reading?

Suspiciously, none of the experts you list are among the MSN Message Board leaders such as Insights by Amber, Penny Babson, Callie, Melodie, Robin Blue Dragon, Nicola, et. al. You never bothered to visit David James, Golden Eye, Fruno, Dr Amit, Psychic Aura Magic or any of the other top 20 readers who charge less than $10 a minute? Or is it that you are from a message board on MSN that is in direct competition with Kasamba Utopia?

You even list "the best of the best" you've been to but fail to put Ambers Light in that list. She is consistently placed in the top 20.

Is it April 1st already? It must be because you've got to be joking.

Do you honestly believe that actual clients come here to look up Kasamba's business practices before hiring and are at all swayed by inane and catty postings.

Do any of you honestly believe that anyone who stumbles across this page is stupid enough to take any of this catty tit for tat seriously?

Anyone smart enough to research a company before using their services or buying their goods is smart enough to see through the agendas that are so poorly veiled.

I'm reporting you all to Rip-Off Reports handlers for taking up space that can be used for real rip-offs instead of a bunch of inane people playing some moronic game of King of the Hill.
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#22 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Another prime example of hiding behind client status

AUTHOR: Patti - (U.S.A.)

Here is another prime example of a backstabbing expert hiding behind client status.
If I'm wrong and you are not an expert, I apologize. However, I would like to point out that anyone who skips around getting readings from no less than 35 experts in a matter of months can't expect to be taken seriously.

Clients like that are just skipping around to find a reader who will tell them what they want to hear. Who did and who didn't can't be determined by a list of 35 experts. I would bet you don't even remember what any of them said except that one who told you what you wanted to hear and you told the rest of the readers "but other readers said..." You were so sure that getting communication meant that you were reconciling. It probably meant some peripheral comment made by a mutual aquaintance or he talked to you under another screen name in some chat room or responded to some comment on a message board. I'm sure it was that "strong connection" that made you so sure it was destiny.

That is, of course, if you are actually a client. Or maybe you're one of those experts that get reading after reading after reading?

Suspiciously, none of the experts you list are among the MSN Message Board leaders such as Insights by Amber, Penny Babson, Callie, Melodie, Robin Blue Dragon, Nicola, et. al. You never bothered to visit David James, Golden Eye, Fruno, Dr Amit, Psychic Aura Magic or any of the other top 20 readers who charge less than $10 a minute? Or is it that you are from a message board on MSN that is in direct competition with Kasamba Utopia?

You even list "the best of the best" you've been to but fail to put Ambers Light in that list. She is consistently placed in the top 20.

Is it April 1st already? It must be because you've got to be joking.

Do you honestly believe that actual clients come here to look up Kasamba's business practices before hiring and are at all swayed by inane and catty postings.

Do any of you honestly believe that anyone who stumbles across this page is stupid enough to take any of this catty tit for tat seriously?

Anyone smart enough to research a company before using their services or buying their goods is smart enough to see through the agendas that are so poorly veiled.

I'm reporting you all to Rip-Off Reports handlers for taking up space that can be used for real rip-offs instead of a bunch of inane people playing some moronic game of King of the Hill.
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#23 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Another prime example of hiding behind client status

AUTHOR: Patti - (U.S.A.)

Here is another prime example of a backstabbing expert hiding behind client status.
If I'm wrong and you are not an expert, I apologize. However, I would like to point out that anyone who skips around getting readings from no less than 35 experts in a matter of months can't expect to be taken seriously.

Clients like that are just skipping around to find a reader who will tell them what they want to hear. Who did and who didn't can't be determined by a list of 35 experts. I would bet you don't even remember what any of them said except that one who told you what you wanted to hear and you told the rest of the readers "but other readers said..." You were so sure that getting communication meant that you were reconciling. It probably meant some peripheral comment made by a mutual aquaintance or he talked to you under another screen name in some chat room or responded to some comment on a message board. I'm sure it was that "strong connection" that made you so sure it was destiny.

That is, of course, if you are actually a client. Or maybe you're one of those experts that get reading after reading after reading?

Suspiciously, none of the experts you list are among the MSN Message Board leaders such as Insights by Amber, Penny Babson, Callie, Melodie, Robin Blue Dragon, Nicola, et. al. You never bothered to visit David James, Golden Eye, Fruno, Dr Amit, Psychic Aura Magic or any of the other top 20 readers who charge less than $10 a minute? Or is it that you are from a message board on MSN that is in direct competition with Kasamba Utopia?

You even list "the best of the best" you've been to but fail to put Ambers Light in that list. She is consistently placed in the top 20.

Is it April 1st already? It must be because you've got to be joking.

Do you honestly believe that actual clients come here to look up Kasamba's business practices before hiring and are at all swayed by inane and catty postings.

Do any of you honestly believe that anyone who stumbles across this page is stupid enough to take any of this catty tit for tat seriously?

Anyone smart enough to research a company before using their services or buying their goods is smart enough to see through the agendas that are so poorly veiled.

I'm reporting you all to Rip-Off Reports handlers for taking up space that can be used for real rip-offs instead of a bunch of inane people playing some moronic game of King of the Hill.
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#24 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Another prime example of hiding behind client status

AUTHOR: Patti - (U.S.A.)

Here is another prime example of a backstabbing expert hiding behind client status.
If I'm wrong and you are not an expert, I apologize. However, I would like to point out that anyone who skips around getting readings from no less than 35 experts in a matter of months can't expect to be taken seriously.

Clients like that are just skipping around to find a reader who will tell them what they want to hear. Who did and who didn't can't be determined by a list of 35 experts. I would bet you don't even remember what any of them said except that one who told you what you wanted to hear and you told the rest of the readers "but other readers said..." You were so sure that getting communication meant that you were reconciling. It probably meant some peripheral comment made by a mutual aquaintance or he talked to you under another screen name in some chat room or responded to some comment on a message board. I'm sure it was that "strong connection" that made you so sure it was destiny.

That is, of course, if you are actually a client. Or maybe you're one of those experts that get reading after reading after reading?

Suspiciously, none of the experts you list are among the MSN Message Board leaders such as Insights by Amber, Penny Babson, Callie, Melodie, Robin Blue Dragon, Nicola, et. al. You never bothered to visit David James, Golden Eye, Fruno, Dr Amit, Psychic Aura Magic or any of the other top 20 readers who charge less than $10 a minute? Or is it that you are from a message board on MSN that is in direct competition with Kasamba Utopia?

You even list "the best of the best" you've been to but fail to put Ambers Light in that list. She is consistently placed in the top 20.

Is it April 1st already? It must be because you've got to be joking.

Do you honestly believe that actual clients come here to look up Kasamba's business practices before hiring and are at all swayed by inane and catty postings.

Do any of you honestly believe that anyone who stumbles across this page is stupid enough to take any of this catty tit for tat seriously?

Anyone smart enough to research a company before using their services or buying their goods is smart enough to see through the agendas that are so poorly veiled.

I'm reporting you all to Rip-Off Reports handlers for taking up space that can be used for real rip-offs instead of a bunch of inane people playing some moronic game of King of the Hill.
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#25 Consumer Comment

Shame on you Katie

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

I know who YWKA is and also know that she is telling the truth. She did not say they were unethical, just that the predictions did not occur. Yes, I know the difference and frankly the credibility of people who attack Kasamba clients for posting their experience on this board has taken a real dive along with Chrisp/Freya. Their stock botttomed out bigtime.

Yes, it was his postings on the public board. I know this because the writing style is the same (apart from the nastiness). Now this was someone who, only a few months ago, was telling me here that I was truly a horrible person for daring to speak out against the great god Kasamba.

My how the worm has turned. BTW, when I actually tried to tell the legitimate psychics that we were not out to get them my post was removed on wahm. Not that I blame them but I DID try.

So you know tell someone who cares Katie...(lol..from what I know of YWK2 she is quite capable and willing to fight her own battles on here)

The demise of Freya has particularly left me in a good mood...ain't Karma grand...she rocks...
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#26 Consumer Comment

Unbelievable

AUTHOR: S - (United Kingdom)

Firstly, It is being taken seriously, maybe not by you Katie, but it matter's not what you think anyway.

This is RIP OFF REPORT! In case you haven't noticed. All threads are about people's experiences of experts that have been incorrect, ripped people off, etc etc....this one is absolutely no different from the hundreds of threads already on here! Your "request" simply does not make sense.

Identifying ones self does not make one bit of difference to the person's experiences, apart from making them more vulnerable to attack from unethical and nasty people who are having their scamming ill gained coffer's threatened.

There is nothing cowardly at all. As for "advising" for clients to go to experts about the reading's they have had not being correct. Read the threads dear. There are countless stories of people having been verbally abused and blocked (not just by that particular reader but by other's).

If the expert is a scammer, they are hardly going to be reasonable are they?

Your post is a mess. It makes no sense, and to accuse someone of being an expert slamming another expert, well that's your and your gaggle of friends little game not ours.

Disgruntled client? You bet!

Obviously it's up to the author themselves to decide how to respond to your post. Whether to offer up to your DEMAND. Glad it was not me who was asked because I simply would of told you to **** Off.
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#27 UPDATE Employee

Please identify yourself

AUTHOR: Katie - (U.S.A.)

It is cowardly to simply post these baseless attacks against so many reputable people. I personally know that some of the names you've listed are wonderful, ethical readers who do not give false hope to clients, and in fact, tell it like it is. Most likely if you accuse someone of being rude, it is because they told you something you did not want to hear and did not like hearing the truth.

Please identify yourself with your Kasamba name if you want to be taken seriously. Your accusations have no merit when you hide behind a ridiculous anonymous posting like this.

Have you directly contacted those you accused and let them know of your complaint, and given them an opportunity first to make things right? It sounds as if you just ran here to cause trouble for some. Either you're a jealous expert trying to undermine those who are honest, or you're a client with a grudge.

Shame on you for hiding.
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