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Complaint Review: KB Bulldogs

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  • Submitted: Thu, March 18, 2010
  • Updated: Wed, October 17, 2012

  • Reported By: Nancy — Houston Texas United States of America
KB Bulldogs
2833 Bobville Road, Montgomery, TX 77316 Internet United States of America

KB Bulldogs ,ebulldogs.net Puppy mill disguised as a breeder!!! Internet

*Consumer Comment: Fraudulent reports filed

*Consumer Comment: Abuse of the system

*Author of original report: How Sad.

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: No big surprise here Ms. "Anonymous"

*Author of original report: The ring master...Kelli

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: How ridiculous! Anyone who wants to come out is welcome to.

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We have been looking for a bulldog puppy for years. We ran across KB Bulldog, KB Bullies they are called sometimes. A person named Kelli spoke with us and gave a well rehearsed sales pitch about her operation. It sounded good but she got a little weird when we asked questions about where the puppies are born, where they live, where are the parents, and other details. She tried to present herself as being the breeder but I came to find out that she is part of a group of people breeding multiple females and she is like a broker.


I also went out to her home in Montgomery and saw that she is living in a run down house in a big field with dog kennels and lots of garbage. Just like all of those puppy mills seen on television. It was so sad that it broke my heart and felt I had to post something here so people know what is going on.


I just got an email today from a coworker that said This puppy has 15 puppies for sale from multiple females. Here is a copy of the email I received:


From: KB's Beauties & Beasts


Subject: Thank you to everyone!!!!


Thursday, March 18, 2010, 6:59 PM


Guys, thanks for being so supportive of us with all of these babies! We had a bumper crop of FIFTEEN puppies (lots of different mamas, but all together still a lot of babies to feed, wipe booties, potty train, bathe, etc!).


It is shocking and disgusting that this puppy mill refers to puppies as a crop and what is even worse is that she admits that there are many different mothers. None of these mothers are even in her home. They are in the homes of other people who work together as a puppy mill. All of these people are using bulldog puppies to earn a living because they do not go out and get a job.


When I think about the conditions these puppies are living in and the poor people who purchase them it makes me want to cry and then it makes me want to do something to change what is so wrong here. I guess what she is doing is legal, although I don't see how. It is definately immoral and she shouldn't be lying to people telling them she is a breeder and not a broker.


Maybe if none of us buy her crop, she will stop farming.


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#1 Consumer Comment

Fraudulent reports filed

AUTHOR: RRowe - (USA)

My name is Rickey.  I have tried to use RipoffReport.com to find out information about companies for years.  Recently I came across three reports:  634792, 570590 and 582767.   

One of these reports contained a phone number for a veterinarians office which we contacted and they had nothing but nice things to say about www.ebulldogs.net and the person that had been slammed (Kelli).

Another check into a phone number listed in report number 634792 was supposedly written by a lady named Danielle.  I called Danielle.  She told me that she had not written the report at all, but that the report had actually been written by another breeder who she befriended named Tim.

As I went through all of the reports I found that all three reports were started by this same writer, Tim.

I find it a shame that a breeder would write things about competition using this system and pretend that they were, in fact, customers.

I am now questioning all of the reports that I have read on this system and wonder whether or not this is just a system where one company can file reports in order to get competing companies maligned?

I would suggest that anyone using www.RipoffReports.com check ALL OF THE INFORMATION CAREFULLY.  Clearly what I have found out about www.ebulldogs.net was all manufactured by a competing breeder who must have decided that someone was becoming a concern in them cornering the market in a business field.

Do your homework.  Call all the numbers that you find in the reports and BE CAREFUL to remember that most of what you read on the internet is just junk.

R. Rowe
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#2 Consumer Comment

Abuse of the system

AUTHOR: RRowe - (USA)

My name is Rickey.  I have tried to use RipoffReport.com to find out information about companies for years.  Recently I came across three reports:  634792, 570590 and 582767.   

One of these reports contained a phone number for a veterinarians office which we contacted and they had nothing but nice things to say about www.ebulldogs.net and the person that had been slammed (Kelli).

Another check into a phone number listed in report number 634792 was supposedly written by a lady named Danielle.  I called Danielle.  She told me that she had not written the report at all, but that the report had actually been written by another breeder who she befriended named Tim.

As I went through all of the reports I found that all three reports were started by this same writer, Tim.

I find it a shame that a breeder would write things about competition using this system and pretend that they were, in fact, customers.

I am now questioning all of the reports that I have read on this system and wonder whether or not this is just a system where one company can file reports in order to get competing companies maligned?

I would suggest that anyone using www.RipoffReports.com check ALL OF THE INFORMATION CAREFULLY.  Clearly what I have found out about www.ebulldogs.net was all manufactured by a competing breeder who must have decided that someone was becoming a concern in them cornering the market in a business field.

Do your homework.  Call all the numbers that you find in the reports and BE CAREFUL to remember that most of what you read on the internet is just junk.

R. Rowe
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#3 Author of original report

How Sad.

AUTHOR: Nancy - (United States of America)

It is amazing how someone can write so many words and say nothing in the process. Here we have a so-called "satisfied customer" who is more likely one of Kelli's breeding families. They claim to have had a wonderful experience with 2 bulldogs, Kelli is wonderful, and somehow I am the bad person for posting information which Kelli is not advertising.

One thing this person did not dispute is that there are multiple families breeding bulldog puppies and Kellie is the BROKER selling them. Why is that important fact always left out? Because of course this is the fact that Kellie and her gang dont want you to focus on. If you call her and ask her about it she will tell you how wonderful it is that there are multiple families breeding multiple dogs and feeding her website to make a profit. Any reasonable person will quickly understand that her words come across like a used car salesman trying to sell you a lemon.

Now someone is telling everyone to call her veterinarian. Ayone who knows Triangle understands that they are the cheapest vet in the Hosuton area and are not well known for their standards of care and are not one of the recognized bulldog vets in twon. Claiming Triangle as a reference is not a good thing. Also, they financially benefiting from KB's operation so not the most objective opinion you could get. In addition, not every puppy is seen at Triangle because there are so many different families breeding these puppies.

I also want to address something the last person posted:

It's awfully strange that the only two people on the internet who have anything bad to say about KB's are two anonymous writers. I would suggest that you do your homework with people who don't hide, but who are responsible, respectable and who give their full information for contact.

Is it really strange that anyone complaining about a puppy mill/broker/ring is not posting their personal contact information, phone number, address? Not sure why that is surprising. To me, common sense says that a whistle-blower should be protected from retribution which is why this site allows for anonymous reporting. It is also why this site automatically removes any contact information from a posting. To protect everyone involved from being harassed. It is not something that is requested.

The reason I posted the true information in my report, which has not been disputed by the owner, is that everyone should know the facts so that they can make a good decision for their family. The last poster says to do your homework and we completely agree. Just make sure that you understand that Kelli and her group are counting on you to givbe them your money to keep their puppy business going. You are feeding 7 or 8 families which are cranking out litter after litter and they have to sell these puppies. By having the information we have listed here, you can ask the right questions, see through the sales pitch, and form your own opinion. My guess is that more people would agree that what they are doing is wrong and want no part of it.

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#4 REBUTTAL Owner of company

No big surprise here Ms. "Anonymous"

AUTHOR: RRowe - (United States of America)

Once again, someone with no name, no phone number and no ability to actually back up any of the information that they have has decided to slam KB's.  You have only to look on the "Happy Owners" section of her website (which is www . ebulldogs .net) to see that there are an awful lot of real people with faces and names who are not ashamed and have to hide behind things like "we don't want puppy mill people calling us" claims.

We are proud to have THREE of KB's "puppy mill" puppies.  They came to us potty trained, have had NO HEALTH ISSUES and our veterinarian office highly recommended KB's to us.  You too can call our vet (Triangle Animal Hospital, Conroe, TX 936 756  3318) to find out if they refer KB's to other people in the area. 

I believe that they will tell you that KB's handles themselves WELL ABOVE BOARD and I don't think that they are ashamed to give out their information either.

It's awfully strange that the only two people on the internet who have anything bad to say about KB's are two anonymous writers.  I would suggest that you do your homework with people who don't hide, but who are responsible, respectable and who give their full information for contact.

My name is Jeff!!  Please feel free to contact me directly at jjfratman at hotmail . com .

PS - I have a feeling that the "invisible" people will notify the Ripoff people to have our phone numbers and emails removed EVEN THOUGH WE WANT THEM ON HERE FOR YOU TO CONTACT US so I challenge those of you who are hiding . . . leave our info on here and we'll see who actually gives out valuable and knowledgable information and who is just hiding behind the internet word game.

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#5 Author of original report

The ring master...Kelli

AUTHOR: Nancy - (United States of America)

This is exactly what we are talking about. Kelli is a real slick operator. Since I posted this report I have found at least a dozen other people who have talked to her and some have also gone out to see her home. Every single one of us agree that Kelli is trying to deceive people into believing what she is doing is a good thing.

What upset me in the first place was her advertisement on her website saying she was raising the dogs in her home. Then when I talk to her she tells me that the puppies are coming from multiple sources. Of course she went on and on about how their puppy farming operation is a good thing, but we felt like we were talking to a used car salesman who was trying to "spin" the truth to get what they want.

So is it ok to have a whole bunch of families breeding multiple dogs to produce puppies to keep her website going? That is a matter of opinion, but the real problem is with how it is presented to everyone. Kelli is a puppy broker, plain and simple. Sure she might have a litter of her own once in a while, but most of the time you are giving your money to someone that does not own the dog you are buying. She has no way of knowing how puppies raised in another home are being treated. Sure, she can say that she knows the very well, but the truth is that she cannot guarantee how the puppies are breing treated.

Somethign else that bothers me, and the others who have dealt with her, is the fact that she justifies what she is doing by saying that her website demands it. If for some reason she only has a normal amount of puppies people will somehow lose interest in her website. Is it possible that she actually believe what she is saying? Nobody buys that nonsense which is why everyone I have met that has had a run-in with her like I have has run for the hils. We had the common sense to know that what she was doing was wrong and the real reason she is doing it is to feed her greed. Otherwise she wouldn't make a profit on brokering other people's puppies.

The truth is obvious. She wasn't able to raise enough puppies to support herself so she enlisted the help of other families. She told them if they raise puppies she would sell them on her website for a fee. This way she could increase her income wihtout having a puppy mill. She admits as much in her rebuttal: we all put our puppies onto this one website so that WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A PUPPY MILL!!

It is unfortunate that Kelli did not find another way to supplement her income instead of running a puppy broker business. Everyone who reads this information should take the time to decide for thermselves. If you call Kelli she is going to put her used car salesman hat on so be prepared. She will tell you how wonderful it is to trust her that the puppies raised by someone esle were well taken care. She will say it is ok for you to give her money and the AKC paperwork will have another person's name on it who you haven't even met before. If there is ever a problem with the registration would you go to Kelli? No, she never owned the puppy.

Common sense will tell you that there are other options available to you. Kelli has pointed the finger at us in her rebuttal for bringing this information to light. Questioning our motives and prompting us to post our phone number and other information. I provided this information originally to let everyone know to be careful and do their research. This is a public service and was the right thing to do. What would be the purpose of putting my information? Do I want 50 phone calls a month from people checking you out? Do I want Kelli and her puppy mill buddies calling me and harrassing me? The only reason Kelli provides her phone number is she has a financial interest in keeping her puppy broker business going. That is how she pays her bills.

We hope that everyone looking for a puppy will try to find a breeder that has a few litters a year and puts the time into taking care of each puppy, knows how each one is being treated, and actually owns the puppy they are selling you. I am not advocating one breeder over another. We have found several in Houston and one in Austin that checks out. We just know there are better options than buying from a broker.

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#6 REBUTTAL Owner of company

How ridiculous! Anyone who wants to come out is welcome to.

AUTHOR: RRowe - (United States of America)

My name is Kelli Lowery, my phone number is 281-738-3362.  I do live in Montgomery, but that is about the only thing that this "anonymous" person gave correctly.  We bought seven acres out here in the country to get away from crazy city traffic.  We brought a historic home from Spring and moved it onto this property a year ago and are in the process of rehabbing it.  Mr. Klein (yes, as in Klein ISD, Klein post office, etc.) would probably take great offense at this person badmouthing the home which he built for his wife for their marriage gift.  Now, given, it has been A LOT MORE WORK than hiring a bunch of people to come in and build something out of sticks and twigs like the "nice" houses these days that won't last 10 years before falling apart, but we are very proud of this home's heritage and the love with which it was built for a wife who is now passed away.


Every person who would like to come out and see us is welcome to . . . there is NOT ONE KENNEL on this property. 


Frequently we have other breeders or people who cannot afford our puppies that are perturbed and they attempt to slander us in the marketplace.  I would LOVE for any of you who are reading this email to come out and visit personally and make a call as to whether we live in "garbage." 


Over the course of ten years I have raised 17 foster children, in addition to adopting two children and the birth of my oldest (who is now 27).  I am a member of my local church, taught AWANA's at 1st Baptist, don't have a maid and cut coupons just like the rest of the normal people. 


In addition I have six friends who all own one to four mother dogs and we all put our puppies onto this one website so that WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A PUPPY MILL!!  When we started working together we realized that it was IMPOSSIBLE to keep a website up and running with only four mother dogs because they have only 1 to four puppies average in a litter.  Sometimes we are blessed with 7 to 10 pups in a litter, but that's not normal and we can't bank on it.  People would lose interest in a website that they go to that says "no puppies this month . . . no puppies this month . . . no puppies this month either" so we grouped together to keep puppies on the site.


Our KB's Miss Baggy Britches had a litter of puppies on March 6, 2010 so this person clearly had not come to the house because she would have met Pooh (who is retired), Roscoe (who is the stud), Madison (who is Pooh's daughter but is not old enough yet to breed), Britches (who had puppies HERE!!) and her sister Winnie (who we were in the process of breeding with Roscoe). 


The claims that we don't have any dogs is ludicrous.  Again, we welcome any people who would lke to come out. 


WE ALSO WELCOME THE PERSON WHO WROTE THIS RIDICULOUS REPORT TO COME FORWARD WITH THEIR INFORMATION SO THAT PEOPLE CAN CONTACT THEM AFTER THEY HAVE SEEN HOW WE LIVE AND RUN THINGS AROUND HERE.  Although we clearly doubt that you'll bother to become anything other than what you are . . . a disgruntled "anonymous" person with no way to contact you.

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