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  • Submitted: Mon, April 14, 2008
  • Updated: Wed, December 02, 2009

  • Reported By:san diego California
Kasamba-
14525 SW Millikan Way, RCM #17817 Beaverton, Oregon U.S.A.

Kasamba- List of the real readers and the fake Beaverton Oregon

*Consumer Comment: Truth About the Yahoo Support Group

*Consumer Comment: Truth About the Yahoo Support Group

*Consumer Comment: Jh, Guac, kacho55

*Consumer Comment: yes, i contacted you but i wanted to see if you were real and honest

*Consumer Comment: yes, i contacted you but i wanted to see if you were real and honest

*Consumer Comment: I have been following these post, there are so many WOW....

*UPDATE Employee: My Last Post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*Consumer Comment: CUT TO THE CHASE: NONE OF THESE ARE "REAL" PSYCHICS...

*UPDATE Employee: Janice is at it again Protect your personal info.

*Consumer Comment: NONE OF THESE CHARLTANS,LIARS,FAKERS AND CON ARTISTS ARE REAL

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: I just stumbled across this per a fellow experts request and client

*Consumer Comment: i think we all suffered the same problem

*Consumer Comment: ibeentherdonethat, thankyou

*Consumer Comment: SHINING LIES-i am researching you because i am going to sue

*Consumer Comment: ??

*Consumer Comment: I would prefer a 1000 people like Iris than 1 of Shining Lies or Jasper or Patti

*UPDATE Employee: Here you go......

*UPDATE Employee: Here you go......

*Consumer Comment: Ok first of ALL

*UPDATE Employee: Ok Get it right

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: To Ibeentheredonethat... clearly the truth hurts

*Consumer Comment: And one more thing.....

*Consumer Comment: Hmmmm

*Consumer Comment: Hmmmm

*Consumer Comment: For beenthere

*Consumer Comment: Ibeentheredonethat :) Iris :) Shining Lies (vomit)

*Consumer Suggestion: I am Thankful for this Post about the readers, cause now I can share my experiences

*Consumer Comment: Yes well they can't be too bright---most people can tell the difference between an 's' & 'z"\'

*Consumer Suggestion: Sorry I just cannot agree with this one

*Consumer Comment: You must be deluded.....

*Consumer Comment: Oh yes, PS to the scripted issue

*Consumer Comment: No, I'm not Janice

*Consumer Comment: LOVE WHATEVER LEARN TO READ-SHINING LIES-I AM SUING YOU

*Consumer Comment: Brokenhearted

*Consumer Suggestion: First impression is last impression

*Consumer Comment: Jasper-I thought that I had seen it all until you posted that garbage

*Consumer Comment: Jasper-I thought that I had seen it all until you posted that garbage

*Consumer Comment: Jasper-I thought that I had seen it all until you posted that garbage

*Consumer Comment: Jasper-I thought that I had seen it all until you posted that garbage

*Author of original report: Well I have to give up some info.....

*Consumer Comment: Jasper-I thought that I had seen it all until you posted that garbage

*UPDATE Employee: Is this a full time job for some of you?

*UPDATE Employee: Is this a full time job for some of you?

*UPDATE Employee: Is this a full time job for some of you?

*UPDATE Employee: Is this a full time job for some of you?

*Consumer Comment: Well, well Shining Lies Liveperson ID: 761227 mental? coach-Michigan USA

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Jasper aka Misticalmisty on LivePerson... You crack me up. What a hypocrite and moneygrubbing fake you are!

*Consumer Comment: One thing I don't understand

*Consumer Comment: One thing I don't understand

*Consumer Comment: BTW-the whole history is there - for all to read

*Consumer Comment: Well Shining Lies is not the brightest spark in the engine-

*Consumer Comment: For Shining Lies

*Consumer Comment: For Canadalove

*Consumer Comment: Here's what a reading with Shining Love will say

*Consumer Comment: Not guilty this time--BUT she has shot herself in the foot bigtime-WE GOT THE PROOF

*Consumer Comment: Shining Love has just clarified what sick and evil lengths a fake scammer will go to....

*Consumer Comment: I have to diagree sorry

*Consumer Comment: Iris/Metafizzical you can kiss your LivePerson expert account goodbye! That's for not adhering to LivePerson's Expert Community Guidelines.

*UPDATE Employee: This is Shining love setting the record straight.

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Some more insight for all of you

*Consumer Comment: Shining Love Nightmare

*Consumer Comment: Shining Love does scripted readings.....

*Consumer Comment: Shining Love was no good for me either

*Consumer Comment: no-one is perfect

*Consumer Comment: Sick

*Consumer Comment: Thanks to you both

*Consumer Comment: I will only say

*Consumer Comment: I would love to be specific but................

*Consumer Comment: Your Experiences?

*Consumer Comment: Your Experiences?

*Consumer Comment: Your Experiences?

*Consumer Comment: Your Experiences?

*Consumer Comment: Cold Reading

*Consumer Comment: Will have to report back once more time has passed

*Consumer Comment: The power of suggestion....

*Consumer Comment: What was showed

*Consumer Comment: Shining Love

*Consumer Comment: Don't Know What to Say

*Consumer Comment: S. is right about Shining Love

*Consumer Comment: Shocked

*Consumer Comment: Im sorry JH, but Shining Love is a fake and a liar.

*Consumer Comment: Im sorry JH, but Shining Love is a fake and a liar.

*Consumer Comment: Im sorry JH, but Shining Love is a fake and a liar.

*Consumer Comment: I've had the "uncanny" remembrances, Aware

*Consumer Comment: JH - they don't really remember everything

*Consumer Comment: Can't speak for her, but

*Consumer Suggestion: Nice Try

*UPDATE Employee: Shining love and Silvermooncircle are great

*UPDATE Employee: Shining love and Silvermooncircle are great

*Consumer Comment: Shining Love again :)

*Consumer Comment: Shining Love again :)

*Consumer Comment: Re: here is my list.

*Consumer Comment: My personal experience and my list of readers

*Consumer Comment: Jh - you are 'allowed' to support readers

*Consumer Comment: Shining Love is WONDERFUL

*UPDATE Employee: EarthShod

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So anyhow, I will admit I am a addicted psychic user ever sense me and my ex- husband has separated I have been looking for love in all the wrong places and seeked guidance, not to mention I received a new credit card that I am now in debt with. I have experienced a bunch of fakes this last 2 months and below I am listing the ones and the evidence that they are fake and the real with information that will prove they are legit, what's crazy is half of the fakes ones have raving reviews and I dont understand why- out of the 40 I have visited only 4 had predictions that came to pass. and was accuarate in all aspects.

I also would like to mention that this isnt a attempt to sabotage anyone, its just truth this people are stealing innocent people money making lies and giving you false hope, its even to the point where these people prey on innocent people with how vulnerable and despite you are. And spells, I was so blind sided that I padi at least $300 towards spells in one week. I am done with psychics dont need them or should I say readers- fakies....lmao!!!! Here is my list below and please no attacks on me not all of the readers are fake and dishonest some did tell me that they didnt have a connection- God Bless their souls!!!!!

fakes- Quietsound- couldnt tell me anything but she works with guides
Master Z- I tricked him and ask reveresed questions then before and he changed his entire story-overpaid fake wasted hundreds with him.
David James- what is the big rave about he gives basic advice, generic.
Psyhic Dee Clare- reads off of what you told her.
Leigha- Big fake- disconnected me and blocked me when I told her she was wrong.
NubiaGoddess- she is just a advisor- dont know nothing-nothing came to pass as she said.
love readings by jeenifer- she is rude and nasty- and makes up stuff.
Master psychic Havana- nothing happened the one she said it.
Silvermoon circle ask me to hire and then couldnt answer questions.
Missemotion75-cheap but didnt know nothing she is totally fake. wolf_totem- gives professional advice isnt a psychic.
Thinker Bell- logical advice but plays too much....but made sense but I didnt need a lecture.
Earthshod- totally fake- reads cards and dont know nothing wizard z- sells video games- man did he make me sick- fake!!!!!
Robin Blue dragon didnt respond to me- big fake look at his profile
Faru- she makes things sound good was also wrong
iris the messenger- I was so anxious to have a reading with her and she was a total d----- bag- and not good at all.
Angelwyns- didnt have session with her- but she responded to my question and was very rude.
And there are about 10 more fakes....now here are the real to average readers.

Patricia Coleman- everything came to pass, she was off with timeframes but it happened. expensive though
Sunnni- everything happened as she said
Melodie- was good with the explaining the whole situation
Watchman Aquiya- exspenive but predications happened, but time was off.
Shining Love- Only told her my name- she knew how I looked my whole background made 2 predictions about things I didnt mention and it happened.
and this one also sees things amazingly accurate.
Dr.Love- as fake as he looks he was spot on....lmao
Cach- young but acceptable- tunes in well but hard to understand
and last but not least- Celestialmind- I used him often

Hope this helps

and please stay away from Sara Fina she is fake




Caniknowanswers
san diego, California
U.S.A.

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#1 Consumer Comment

Truth About the Yahoo Support Group

AUTHOR: tootie fresco - (USA)

All you will get in the yahoo group weakguyonkasamba

 

is a bunch of kasamba utopia members in drag .. telling you not to go to the other readers calling the others scammers this /that and saying to go to themselves as they are apparantly not scammers .. ethical and blah blah blahhhhhh

Also in the process of not calling themselves scammers they will collect your personal stories and transcripts and pass them thru msn and yahoo chat to their friends .

 

Then if u are stupid enough to say u had a bad reading with one of them including 'bohemian moons 'husband then they will en mass attack the hell out of you and kick you out of their precious little group....

 

beware about passing ur personal information and or transcripts to anyone EVER!!!

 

 

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#2 Consumer Comment

Truth About the Yahoo Support Group

AUTHOR: Annette - (U.S.A.)

Jessie, since you have been lurking (and maybe a secret psychic???), in the weakguyonkasamba yahoo group, you really haven't done your homework, or you haven't read the posts correctly.

First of all, "Ginny" is a tarot reader. Yes ,she was on LP ages ago. Kacho is one of the moderators, and has recommended Ginny to those who have asked for honest tarot readers.They are not one in the same person. If you did some research, you would know this from her (Ginny's) independent site. Kacho reads tarot cards, (not professionally) and has stated this in several posts. Why would someone who has been burned so badly by LP psychics, be a tarot reader posting under the guise of a client?? Makes no sense whatsover, but neither does your post. It's as transparent as cellophane.

You really have no right to pass judgment on anyone's emotional state, but business must be bad, and since you were pretty much a trouble maker in the group, this is a very poor attempt to get back at someone. Its very childish and holds zero merit, not to say minus zero integrity. You are extracting a portion of a post, but honestly, it just makes you looks very foolish.

The group is dedicated to people who have been ripped off over and over by LP pyschics. People share their experience of readers. It has helped many people save money, not to mention their emotional state. The truth is, most of the readers on that site are fake. People are waking up. The group is working to spread awareness, and to help people who have been burned badly. It has been a source of help to many, who have come to realize that they have been ripped off/duped/scammed. Obviously, the professional scam artists, posing as psychics aren't so happy about this.

It's really not amusing when many people have endured emotional heartache, and financial setback.

If you post again, please offer something of merit, not some attack on a young lady who has had some difficulty in her life.

If someone has been ripped off on LP, get some clarity in the yahoo group.
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#3 Consumer Comment

Jh, Guac, kacho55

AUTHOR: Jessie - (U.S.A.)

While JH sure does take the time to try to dispell the idea that he/she is actually a reader, I think it's pretty obvious that she is.  ie, all the rave about what psychic she recommends lol.  She uses the same wording, same style of speech, and same mannerisms.  JH/kacho55 was an expert who was kicked off of Kasamba, now Liveperson, and is back slamming the company through the disguise of a yahoo group called weakguys on kasamba.  For example, this is what she writes on her yahoo group pages as she seeks to attack the experts and company she used to work with:

"As for others reading for me, I think something in teh universe is sjust saying to leave things be. I had an "owed" read from Ginny about 2 months ago about someone and it was dead on correct."  

She follows with this as someone asks her about her support of this Ginny (reader/psychic):

"Second is I don't count Ginnywith what I said as she's not on LP :)  "

And here we see how because she was kicked off Kasamba/Liveperson, she set up a guise yahoo group only to bash those people, and get business for herself as a reader:

"at this point I have no faith in any psychics due ot LP, and I don't think I'm meant to be even getting tarot reads by trusted real readers like Ginny."

LOL so obvious!

She's also a bittered and miserable soul who has no one to love. (who the he-- could love that!?  She has no idea that her words are so transparent as she writes:

"I'd love to know what the future holds and if there's ever going to be a fucking shred of happiness out there for me."

It's pretty obvious that her comments, rants, bashings are  more a result of her miserable life, and lonely existence.

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#4 Consumer Comment

yes, i contacted you but i wanted to see if you were real and honest

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

It turns out you were not. You stated ONLINE AT LP THAT you were on Bitwine and YOU suggested we meet on yahoo. I have this all documented on screenshots.

You blamed me for 'outing' you on the weakguyonkasamba group for doing scripted readings.

The message history shows that I said I wanted to stay out of the comparison of your transcripts. For awhile I actually thought you were honest. I was proven wrong!

I did NOT out you. Yet, you blamed me because I would not can the discusssion. I have the transcript from this discussion from your abiLlama login (that you had registered on the weakguyonkasamba group in May 2008)

Then you wrote on the experts' forum the following post. I am struggling to find a word that describes it but contemptuous comes to mind.

MY FELLOW EXPERTS:

Yesterday, I stumbled across some disturbing information that EC-CLIENTS-AND CURRENT CLIENTS OF THIS SITE ARE POSTING INCLUDING SHARING THEIR TRANSCRIPTS, STARTING GROUPS, ETC, WHAT IS SAD IS THEY ARE CLIENTS THAT COME TO US EVERYDAY AS IF NOTHING IS WRONG, I KNOW ONE FOR SURE THAT SHARES INFO ABOUT THIS SITE (CAPS MINE FOR EMPHASIS)

this client created a expert account and read the forum, NOW I KNOW THIS BECAUSE NO CLIENT WOULD KNOW THAT IT IS POSSIBLE FOR US TO GOOGLE THEM TO SEE HOW THEY ARE RATED, OR THEY ARE IN FACT ABUSERS (my caps for emphasis).

Then a past client of mines, came after me after I was extremely nice to her, FIRST NAME IS A J LAST NAME RHYMES WITH HUFFY (my caps for emphasis).... I just dont know what to say, NOT ONLY DID THIS PERSON MAKE UP ALL THESE ALLEGATIONS, THIS PERSON CREATED 2-3 ACCOUNTS AND POSTS THINGS AS IF SHE IS A PAST CLIENT. (my caps for emphasis)....

I am not bothered by this because I stand my ground on what I do, but what does saddened me is that, (SOME OF THESE CLIENTS ARE THOSE YOU PUT SO MUCH ENERGY INTO HELPING (my caps for emphasis)

They said some pretty foul stuff about many of us, I really dont involve myself in drama, but I felt this was needed, we in a sense have to stick together on certain things, I am sure the future holds better privacy for us, (WHERE A CLIENT JUST CANNOT COME IN HERE THAT EASY TO SABOTAGE US (my caps for emphasis) I posted one thing and I leave it as that, this people post things on there all day long like its a hobby.

Just thought you all should know this...beware, I dont want to break any policies, but I wanted to post the group name where they are making all the allegations about multiple experts. Anyhow I am done with it, I wont go back near that site,

It takes alot for me to blow a tire, so if I read the mess that is posted there, I would be a wreck....lol I think most of mines is stemming from jealously,(MY COMMENT: WTF?????) not saying I am perfect cause I am not, but I question the motives......hmm Now I will let it roll off my back and keep trucking......

Blessings to you all Have a great weekend!

What is wrong with this post? Well, for a start CLIENTS PAY FOR A SERVICE. YOU USED A FAKE PICTURE, GAVE SCRIPTED READINGS AND DISCUSSED CLIENT-I.E. SHARED INFORMATION INSIDE THE COMPANY. IMAGINE WHAT PEOPLE LIKE YOU SAY ABOUT CLIENTS IN PRIVATE.

We PAY YOU FOR A SERVICE YET YOUR OPINION IS THAT WE ARE THE HEATHEN MASSES THAT SHOULD BE KEPT IN OUR PLACE-AWAY FROM YOUR IVORY TOWER.

You con clients and then have the gall to write about us as though we are the heathen masses that deserve to kowtow to your supposed 'god-given talent.

WE PAY OUR MONEY FOR A SERVICE AND YET YOU TREAT US WITH DISRESPECT, RIP US OFF AND BREAK CONFIDENTIALITY.

For awhile, a very short while I ignored the advice of the others whom I trust, My mistake and I ate humble pie-especially to one person who warned me about you. I was wrong about you and that client was correct.

When you were outed it was NOT by me. Yet you blamed me. This shows exactly what sort of person you are-dishonest and full of (UNDESERVED) ego.

Anyone can read the message history on the weakguyonkasamba message board and see that I am telling the truth.

I actually initially defended you against the advice of someone I trust. As I said, I ate a lot of humble pie and I did it willingly. I was wrong and this other person was correct. You are a manipulative, lying fraud who hurts people for money.

I told you I was a client. It was just before LP banned me completely. I had a feeling I was going to be banned because I had just sent them more evidence of fraud by another so-called expert and this time I knew they were going to ban me COMPLETLEY. I was correct. After all, they have a histiOy of banning clients who send them information about frauds on their site.

By the way, the picture on the profile you used at that time looks nothing like you. Did you steal it? If you didn't why did you suddenly change your profile picture and name in November when all the other frauds suddenly changed their profile photographs?

You are a fraud who gives scripted readings and treats clients with distain. You are also a liar. But most of all you are stupid.

Clients PAY YOU FOR A SERVICE and you lie and cheat them.

How dare you talk about clients as if you are some type of guru who is kind enough to give the heathens some of your 'god-gifted' talent!

Fraud is a crime and misrepresenting yourself apparently contravenes the company expert terms of service.

Give up the lying and cheating and accept that as far as talent goes, you, like many other frauds just don't have any.

Now I am going to take a screenshot of this and add it to your fraud file.
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yes, i contacted you but i wanted to see if you were real and honest

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

It turns out you were not. You stated ONLINE AT LP THAT you were on Bitwine and YOU suggested we meet on yahoo. I have this all documented on screenshots.

You blamed me for 'outing' you on the weakguyonkasamba group for doing scripted readings.

The message history shows that I said I wanted to stay out of the comparison of your transcripts. For awhile I actually thought you were honest. I was proven wrong!

I did NOT out you. Yet, you blamed me because I would not can the discusssion. I have the transcript from this discussion from your abiLlama login (that you had registered on the weakguyonkasamba group in May 2008)

Then you wrote on the experts' forum the following post. I am struggling to find a word that describes it but contemptuous comes to mind.

MY FELLOW EXPERTS:

Yesterday, I stumbled across some disturbing information that EC-CLIENTS-AND CURRENT CLIENTS OF THIS SITE ARE POSTING INCLUDING SHARING THEIR TRANSCRIPTS, STARTING GROUPS, ETC, WHAT IS SAD IS THEY ARE CLIENTS THAT COME TO US EVERYDAY AS IF NOTHING IS WRONG, I KNOW ONE FOR SURE THAT SHARES INFO ABOUT THIS SITE (CAPS MINE FOR EMPHASIS)

this client created a expert account and read the forum, NOW I KNOW THIS BECAUSE NO CLIENT WOULD KNOW THAT IT IS POSSIBLE FOR US TO GOOGLE THEM TO SEE HOW THEY ARE RATED, OR THEY ARE IN FACT ABUSERS (my caps for emphasis).

Then a past client of mines, came after me after I was extremely nice to her, FIRST NAME IS A J LAST NAME RHYMES WITH HUFFY (my caps for emphasis).... I just dont know what to say, NOT ONLY DID THIS PERSON MAKE UP ALL THESE ALLEGATIONS, THIS PERSON CREATED 2-3 ACCOUNTS AND POSTS THINGS AS IF SHE IS A PAST CLIENT. (my caps for emphasis)....

I am not bothered by this because I stand my ground on what I do, but what does saddened me is that, (SOME OF THESE CLIENTS ARE THOSE YOU PUT SO MUCH ENERGY INTO HELPING (my caps for emphasis)

They said some pretty foul stuff about many of us, I really dont involve myself in drama, but I felt this was needed, we in a sense have to stick together on certain things, I am sure the future holds better privacy for us, (WHERE A CLIENT JUST CANNOT COME IN HERE THAT EASY TO SABOTAGE US (my caps for emphasis) I posted one thing and I leave it as that, this people post things on there all day long like its a hobby.

Just thought you all should know this...beware, I dont want to break any policies, but I wanted to post the group name where they are making all the allegations about multiple experts. Anyhow I am done with it, I wont go back near that site,

It takes alot for me to blow a tire, so if I read the mess that is posted there, I would be a wreck....lol I think most of mines is stemming from jealously,(MY COMMENT: WTF?????) not saying I am perfect cause I am not, but I question the motives......hmm Now I will let it roll off my back and keep trucking......

Blessings to you all Have a great weekend!

What is wrong with this post? Well, for a start CLIENTS PAY FOR A SERVICE. YOU USED A FAKE PICTURE, GAVE SCRIPTED READINGS AND DISCUSSED CLIENT-I.E. SHARED INFORMATION INSIDE THE COMPANY. IMAGINE WHAT PEOPLE LIKE YOU SAY ABOUT CLIENTS IN PRIVATE.

We PAY YOU FOR A SERVICE YET YOUR OPINION IS THAT WE ARE THE HEATHEN MASSES THAT SHOULD BE KEPT IN OUR PLACE-AWAY FROM YOUR IVORY TOWER.

You con clients and then have the gall to write about us as though we are the heathen masses that deserve to kowtow to your supposed 'god-given talent.

WE PAY OUR MONEY FOR A SERVICE AND YET YOU TREAT US WITH DISRESPECT, RIP US OFF AND BREAK CONFIDENTIALITY.

For awhile, a very short while I ignored the advice of the others whom I trust, My mistake and I ate humble pie-especially to one person who warned me about you. I was wrong about you and that client was correct.

When you were outed it was NOT by me. Yet you blamed me. This shows exactly what sort of person you are-dishonest and full of (UNDESERVED) ego.

Anyone can read the message history on the weakguyonkasamba message board and see that I am telling the truth.

I actually initially defended you against the advice of someone I trust. As I said, I ate a lot of humble pie and I did it willingly. I was wrong and this other person was correct. You are a manipulative, lying fraud who hurts people for money.

I told you I was a client. It was just before LP banned me completely. I had a feeling I was going to be banned because I had just sent them more evidence of fraud by another so-called expert and this time I knew they were going to ban me COMPLETLEY. I was correct. After all, they have a histiOy of banning clients who send them information about frauds on their site.

By the way, the picture on the profile you used at that time looks nothing like you. Did you steal it? If you didn't why did you suddenly change your profile picture and name in November when all the other frauds suddenly changed their profile photographs?

You are a fraud who gives scripted readings and treats clients with distain. You are also a liar. But most of all you are stupid.

Clients PAY YOU FOR A SERVICE and you lie and cheat them.

How dare you talk about clients as if you are some type of guru who is kind enough to give the heathens some of your 'god-gifted' talent!

Fraud is a crime and misrepresenting yourself apparently contravenes the company expert terms of service.

Give up the lying and cheating and accept that as far as talent goes, you, like many other frauds just don't have any.

Now I am going to take a screenshot of this and add it to your fraud file.
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#6 Consumer Comment

I have been following these post, there are so many WOW....

AUTHOR: Canadalove - (U.S.A.)

Here is a new one you would be surprised on whom on there.

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/427/RipOff0427920.htm#397865
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#7 UPDATE Employee

My Last Post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AUTHOR: Shining Love - (U.S.A.)

First of all, Janice there were already reports about you being a Psychic Stalker way before I signed up with LP.... For your info you have some facts wrong and some facts right. Yes I did read for you off the site, But you contacted me remember? I even denied you but you wanted me to read for you remember Janice? I contacted LP in JULY way before that so I am ahead of you I am not denying I didnt read for you, What 3 times on LP and a couple times on Bitwine. My gut told me not to but I did anyway. Ok second. I never sold you any false promises..I will not discredit any of the other readers there, but I also feel there is some sort of sabotage on another expert's part I believe I know who this other person is. Now what is fake, when people that sign up as experts and clients and bring info back to these sites, I mean is there anything that important in your life that you are googling people names and researching them. Think again Janice you dont have my address or my phone number, I am not the only person with that name in Michigan and sorry my personal info isnt accurate on the white pages, so go ahead..you are the stalker. That is stalker behavior. Next- I never sold you false promises, and conned you for money, Readings are a choice and you are obviously the one that is addicted to Psychic readings. I have to say that most of the people in your group are, Why is it that important if its a choice you make and its not needed in your life. Next, I posted things directly to you, I am not the only person that has found you to be mentally unstable. You are old enough to be my mother, Act like a woman, you have alot of years under your belt, will you be posting about psychics that you TAKE your own money to until you are 70? Its getting old and tired. Lets go for some bigger fish that are making thousands off of conning innocent people. I dont do it and never will. SO please stop on on associated cotent and my personal websites and posting things. I am 5'2 165 and proud to be and that isnt a issue, so those little immature remarks dont bother me at all. If you all want to go to associated content and see me why dont you I have some great articles posted! Other then that as you call yourself LP hater, get yourself a life and a family or something! You are two twisted. And for your FYI I havent posted your name on a Forum, so whom ever told you that is inaccurate, Oh lets see its probably Friendforreal because she does go on the forums as a expert and she told me that someone else did it when I seen her there...So its likely a client going there. Lets see other then that if anyone wants to know anything about me,, come see me. I have no problems answering it for you. If I am good for you then great, if not then fine. I dont force people to see me. Again leave me alone. And just in case you dont know- Until I scam someone with thousands of dollars....which that wont happen, then you can let all of Michigan know, but I doubt thats there concern at this point sweety! As for the clients that are in your group that I have had, which can only be a small number including the one expert did I scam you for all you had or lie to you? I explained cold readings and have seen them done I am very specific with most of my clients if they want me to be. What gets me, no reader I mean no reader if 100% accurate, I have seen some of the highest paid ones Nationwide get things inaccurately so I am not claiming to be accurate 100% Is it when you look at my ratings Janice that you get sick to your stomach? Because I have 97% good compared t the 3% negative? Maybe thats it, and with that being said a couple of my current clients actually came and said that you post horrible things about me. YUck Janice get over it, I never lied to you, I never conned you and never hurt you. Call me what you want, call me what you like. You will not break me!


Now we already know your story so I wont share your info, I am not like you. Stay off my sites, whats the deal, googled me and going everyone you can to post things? Get over it. I will never visit ROR again! THis woman has emailed me and went to every site, now is that weird or not? get help Janice you are almost a senior citizen enjoy life!

Oh and for all the other stuff that is there.
I wont out anyone, but there are many that use repetitve wording, I dont do scripts, but I do use wording the same. So get over it.
And Janice you are menancing and stalking, you can catch a case even if its cyber.

Blessings
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#8 Consumer Comment

CUT TO THE CHASE: NONE OF THESE ARE "REAL" PSYCHICS...

AUTHOR: Joe - (U.S.A.)

SO YOUR PROBLEM IS RESOLVED.

YOU WOULD BE A LOT BETTER OFF TAKING THAT MONEY YOU WOULD WASTE HERE AND BUYING YORSELF SOMETHING NICE OR PUTTING IT AWAY FOR YOUR OLD AGE.

BECAUSE A WOMAN'S EARNING POWER DECLINES A LOT FASTER THAN A MAN'S. WHEN SHE IS OVER 50, SHE IS GENERALLY FINISHED... MAYBE EVEN 45 YEARS.

SO WHILE YOU ARE ABLE TO EARN MONEY, YOU NEED TO PUT IT AWAY AND NOT WASTE IT ON FAKERS WHO MAKE WILD EXTRAVAGANT PROMISES AND RUN SIMPLISTIC CONS... PROMISING SPELLS THEY CANNOT WORK OR DON'T KNOW HOW, PROMISING RESULTS THAT THEY CAN NOT BRING ( WELL, NOBODY CAN, ACTUALLY)...

THIS IS A FREE AD FOR THE FAKE PSYCHICS...

WE HAVE SOME FAMILIES WHO ARE FEUDING AGAIN.

PEOPLE, THERE IS ENOUGH SPOILS FOR ALL OF YOU.

SO STOP POSTING THE FREE ADVERTISING HERE.
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#9 UPDATE Employee

Janice is at it again Protect your personal info.

AUTHOR: Shining Love - (U.S.A.)

This is for clients and for experts. Today I received an Email from Janice Duffy.

She received my email address because at one point she was on my messenger list.

This is how we conducted our live sessions. Be careful with sharing your personal details, rather its through paypal or through emailing, when dealing with someone mentally unstable, this could cause a problem for not only you but your family. I am now being stalked by this woman. Next thing you know she will be looking up my phone numbers. She says things that she feels will hurt you, when in reality she is only hurting herself. Sure I will post pics of myself all over. I have no problem with the way I looked.

It shows you how childish and immature she is, When are you going to get it lady?

As for the clients you said I ripped off, what 2 or 3 that I didnt tell what they wanted to hear? Most of the clients that I started with, are the same ones I have. So please get off my back, keep it up Janice, you are walking on thin ice if you continue the stalking I will press charges and take this to a serious level trust me.

My privacy means alot, I dont know how much you value yours.
Oh and just for your info, some of us dont want to be tall thin and whatever else you said. I have curves to fit my clothes>>>LOL

Love ya

Blessings

Here is the email she sent me

It was one o the biggest delights of my life when i discovered the picture of the real you...i am lucky..i am tall, fit and look great.

You on the other hand are short ugly and fat...marches your spirit.

Don't worry sooon all of detroit will know about you ....you are one of the most hated of all of the frauds...

and you know what- i REALLY had nothing to do with exposing you,,,,,lol....

but those who did...the clients that you ripped off found out all about you...

and soon the world will know better get yourself to Jenny craig...we don't want to be a lard arse when we are infamous do we?...
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#10 Consumer Comment

NONE OF THESE CHARLTANS,LIARS,FAKERS AND CON ARTISTS ARE REAL

AUTHOR: Joe - (U.S.A.)

IF YOU HAVE BEEN RIPPED OFF BY THEM --AND THERE IS PLENTY OF EVIDENCE ON THE RIP OFF REPORT THAT PROVES THIS, YOU NEED TO START FILING COMPLAINTS WITRH THE FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION 9REGULATES INTERSTATE COMMERCE WHICH IS COMMUNICATION THAT GOES ACROSS STATE AND EVEN INTERNATIONAL STATE LINES, BUT MOSTLY STATE LINES.

REPORT THIS TO YOUR STATE ATTORNEY GENERALS AS CONSUMER FRAUD.

ALSO CONTRACT YOUR FEDERAL HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES OFFICIAL AND YOUR FEDERAL SENATORS (YOUR STATE SHOULD HAVE TWO AND THEY HAVE PHONE NUMBERS OF THEIR OFFICES IN A CITY CLOSE TO YOU) AND ASK THAT THEY SPONSOR LEGISLATION THAT WILL BAN FORTUNE TELLING SCAMMERS ON THE TELEPHONE HOTLINES AND ON THE INTERNET.

WHEN PEOPLE ARE SO COMPLETELY OUT OF TOUCH WITH REALITY AND DELUSIONAL BECAUSE THEY HAVE OVERINDULGED IN THIS STUFF, THEN THEY HAVE TO BE PROTECTED FROM LOSING ALL THEIR MONEY!

THIS IS SOME OF THE WEIRDEST, MOST FALSE CON JOBS i HAVE EVER READ ABOUT AND i THINK IT IS TIME THAT SOMETHING BE DONE TO STOP THIS DRIVEL OF LIES AND FAKERY!
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#11 REBUTTAL Individual responds

I just stumbled across this per a fellow experts request and client

AUTHOR: Shining Love - (U.S.A.)

First and foremost I have a few email addresses like anyone else and I own 2 sites of my own, I do counsel individuals with extreme personality disorders I have the credentials to prove that. Listen here until you present me with facts, that I lied, cheated, or scammed anyone, it stand as it is. Cold readings are techniques used based on the criteria of the situation for example. James may come in and tell me that he is having trouble with an ex, Sure I can easily say, your ex has fear, she is afraid etc, I am reading strictly from the advantage of the situation that he has introduced me to. Sorry I dont do that. In fact I dont really rely on the Clients giving me info. Honey, no matter how much you are posting here, its coming off more as a sabotage. I mind my business and only my business and I am not concerned about anything more. I have a large client base, and I have had repeat clients for the year I have been there, and I definately dont pull clients from the site. I have 2 sites that I run and I have very satisfied clients.

I removed most of my info from Liveperson. I have realized that you have to be very careful, as in this case it purely shows that none of you have anything better to do.

You are researching email addresses and that is just sick! You are digging too deep its not that serious. As for others that are posting, I have no time, I cannot control whom comes here and hits me or defends me. Sure you can all sit behind the computer and type things about those who scammed and deceived you, but that wont change anything. My time being apart of the site, I have ran across many psychic addicted individuals in which most post on ROR. Its a choice in this matter, its not malpratice and surely isnt illegal, you are coming at vulnerable times in your life where this is almost like a treatment or medicine to hear what you want to hear.

I am far from fake, as in this case, I wouldnt have the large amount of clients that I do. If I dont know something I am not afraid to tell you. I dont ask anyone to hire that dont believe in my talent and I dont claim to know everything. I am just a young woman with a natural gift that has lead me to the people that I am apart of now and to continue pushing on. If I allowed the things that people wrote about me affect me I wouldnt be where I am today. If Chrysler, Ford, Toyota, BMW, etc stopped trucking after bad reviews then - Would they be the Billion Dollar empires they are today. Its sad when you find someone of good nature that gets stones thrown at them, for reasoning that is far beyond belief. Honestly I would have respected you more JH if you would have come to me directly versus posting this deceiving and inaccurate information about me. I cannot say that, loyalty is shown in that sense, but I frankly dont see my motive of telling you something that isnt true or I dont know.

No Psychic is 100% accurate, and I dont feel that - you should be co dependent on one, monthly readings fine, weekly, Not good! Its a business that will never die, sure it can dread, but trust me if you are a fraud what goes on in the dark will come out in the light. So of course the bad weeds come out, but is that your choice to force it to happen, most of the people that are listed as frauds seem to have a streamline of business. Aside from that I am not here to judge anyone I am human just the same. But I believe this thread should go to rest. And we all should work towards something more constructive and that is learning, loving and letting go. I was a bit heated in the above post, because JH, and Janice both contacted me in the past, and left raving reviews, and went on to bash me for what, for what others have told them.

This thread has brought many clients to me at my surprise that didnt waste time telling me who and where they were from either. Of course Psychic hoping isnt good, its not a healthy sign, and I must say that instead of starting threads on inaccurate because half of this you must hold with a grain of salt, and the truth is a bit over extended, you should be focusing on the real issues that your life face. And outing what you call frauds isnt the thing to do, If you ask me, those who throw stones too hard at the so called frauds, Wouldnt that spark questions on what you are? Nothing good can stay above water in less its being fed. I leave in Peace! Love ya All and even if you dont love me.

Bye now,

Sheena
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#12 Consumer Comment

i think we all suffered the same problem

AUTHOR: Mike - (U.S.A.)

I too have had many of the readers listed above
and i'm not going to publicly slander any of them, nor am i going to say i want my money back...etc etc.
Many of you have been duped thousands on bogus spells, and RIDICULOUSLY HIGH $20 a minute reader fees, and the irony of this { And speaking for myself, Not sure about others} Is i wanted to believe what these people were saying, With EVERY FIBER OF MY BEING, Will she come back? YES! does she miss me YES!, does she think about me...CONSTANTLY!
Why doesn't she call?...She will in a few weeks...Needless to say ...She never called, and for awhile the only connection i had to HER, was through using various readers on kasamba.
Truth is, Was...None of these readers were correct...many of them told me WHAT I WANTED TO HEAR, and i allowed it, no one to blame BUT ME,... it went WAY beyond the metaphysical and stemmed into a mental thing that i had allowed.
I used them to fill a void, i needed to fill on my own.
for the record, NOT ONE psychic gave me truth on what was really occuring, NOT ONE SINGLE ONE did this.
I read the ratings, i did my research, i even drank everything most of them gave me as TRUTH...OH MY LORD, She's sad, WHAT Can i do!
None of it was based on any truth.

I'm one of the rare people who actually had gotten truth, one of the few who rather then OBSESS with kasamba, Used my hurt to get to the REAL bottom of what was going on.
and here is what was discovered

This supposed SOULMATE of mine, WHO 9 out of 10 psychics affirmed was this
suffered from a horrible mental condition known as anti social personality disorder.
her basic pattern was to get people hooked, then drop them like a ton of bricks.

or more commonly called sociopath, after much trouble, i had encountered a few of her other victims, All of which confirmed everything i suspected.
Her basic pattern never changed/changes
She had done this dozens of times, to other unsuspecting males, and the whole time i'm thinking soulmate....HMMMM....LOL

and last but not least, I actually did manage to make contact one last time with this Obsession of mine, Whom i later found out was merely a shadow of a person to whom ADMITTED THIS TO ME...And simply uttered the words SORRY! i'm trying to change though

No kasamba reader EVER picked up on this

lovefraud.com and the sociopath next door gave me more closure then kasamba ever could.

and i wish everyone the same thing...true closure and peace
I'm sure some readers on the site have a gift, but it just so happened the one's that read for me were way off.

God bless
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#13 Consumer Comment

ibeentherdonethat, thankyou

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

"Annoying someone via the Internet including email is a federal crime.
Penalties for posting annoying messages without disclosing your identity include stiff fines and prison. Not only that it is in fine print that Rip off report doesnt confirm any of the information usually it is from a disgrunted client that is scorned. I personally am going to leave it as that, but by no means am I going let someone make up things, twist things around on me."

I didn't know that. I guess you must be American because in the UK and Australia we don't use the word 'federal', we would use 'national' wouldn't we S?

The Australian politcal system is a hybrid model developed from both the Westminister system (British) and the Federal system (American) but we tend to use the British terminolgy (historical reasons).

Nonetheless if the crimes were committed in America (and unless I am geographically challenged, both NY state and Michigan are in the US, then I would have an avenue to report those two for "posting annoying messages without disclosing their identity".

:) :)
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#14 Consumer Comment

SHINING LIES-i am researching you because i am going to sue

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

I wasn't guilty of outing you for scripted reaing but I am very guilty of spreading the information that you applied to join the kasambavictims group.

Why are you so stupid? It is simple. You used the same email to join the weakguyonkasamba group, the kasambavictims group and to IM me last week when you wanted to manipulate me into canning the discussion.

The group automatically keeps a list of all addresses and the subscription dates. I thought I recognised the email address but I only found it on an application email for the old group, kasambavictims when I was looking through the previous emails from Susan McDowell to find the ones in which she mentioned her views on the 'poor innocent psychics'. I am a researcher and I file everything.

Why is it that you do not have a problem discussing client details in a public forum, defaming people and making derogatory statments about clients yet object when we state information about you Perhaps you have something to hide. You had no problem lying about me.

I am going to sue you for defamation. I thought I made that clear. Prior to that I am making a complaint about you and Susan McDowell to your government. i will do it from here. Given that it appears you consider that the Australian government engaging in illegal activities (by allegedly giving me illegal software) I intend to convince them to do something about you two geniuses.

Shining Lies has to prove that I think my dog is a doctor and I set up an experts' account in my dogs name so that I could hurt clients as well as a number of other defamatory statements. Susan McDowell has made so many rediculous statements it is difficult to believe that she is even on this planet. However, they are highly defamatory.

You are up the creek without a paddle. It is a simple principle of cause and effect. You did the crime and I am going to make sure you do the time. I don't have to resort to hiring internet detectives or hackers in order for you to be found. Enough information is in the public domain and YOU both put it there.
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#15 Consumer Comment

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AUTHOR: Jh - (U.S.A.)

For been there -- I'm sorry, but I'm not following what you're talking about? I can't email you, nor can anyone else via the ROR. And I never got any emails from you via the weakguys list. I also don't know who you say is harassing who?

Can you explain what's going on?
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#16 Consumer Comment

I would prefer a 1000 people like Iris than 1 of Shining Lies or Jasper or Patti

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

Why? Well, we continually class horns over issues (big surprise) and see many things differently, but, unlike many others she is smart and calls a spade a spade.

I do not mind being challenged and proven that I am wrong. I just cannot stand stupidity.

I still have trouble understanding WHY all those frauds-the old perve master z, powerful visions and shining lies and others didn't pick up that I was 'evil' when they first read for me. In fact, I have transcripts that show they told me I was a good person/spirit-whatever.

This 'nice' analysis/reading of my character of course occurred when I was paying them. The transcripts clearly show that such analyses were unsolicited. i.e. I was not asking them about my character.

Yet, when I confronted the same people, their anlyses of my character suddnly changed to 'full of hate', angry, 'evil' etc, and was accompanied by statements of blame such as I perverted chance, destiny, the forces of nature (excuses ad nauseum) and/or I was blocked.

I KNOW that I am NOT the only person who has found this strange type of timeframe: That the fraudulent experts seems to change from caring to nasty along with the the clients ability or willingness to pay.

See that is why I repect Nicola so much. She actually did not make these 'false hope' predictions, yet she spent spent some of her free time trying to boost my spirits.

I am actually concerned about the defamatory statements made by Susan McDowell and Sheena, Shining Lies. I read a post last night by what appears to be a male expert and recieved an email from a female expert infering that I am the problem.

Clearly Shining Lies is not above discussing clients and Susan McDowell is stating that my government has given me software to track people. I do NOT work with patients but these people have gone too far.

The implications could be damaging to my career. I have no choice. I am going to call the US embassy and complain about those tow because they can be easily identified and/or traced by THEIR officials.

At the very least it will draw the attention of the US governmnet to these people. If Shining Lies works with vulnerable young people and is clearly vindictive, manupulative, and a proven liar then those young people are at risk.

Susan McDowell is on some other planet but she published defamatory remarks about me and provided personal details. She crossed the line.

I intend to sue both of them for defamation but not yet. However, since reports cannot be removed from this site, and my work was mentioned in the context of these defamatory statements, a chat with a US official may be a good short term solution.

I just wonder about the timing is all. Seems strange that they both started posting this garbage on the same day. It does not paint a pretty picture...using my dog to hurt patients and ASIO software to stalk people.

I think I can make a case to the US officials that they need to investigate those two because the Australian government would look at my records, both personal and professional and see that they are impeccable.

Last time Susan published all this garbage I was worried about the other clients. However, she couldn't leave well enough alone. I think she is the one who is obsessive. She clearly is a liar and it is time to put a stop to it.

As for Shining lies. I wonder if HER work knows that she reveals clients details (with an evil twist or three) in a attempt to get revenge on somone who acctually didn't do anything to her. This is clearly unprofessional (as well as nasty) and people like her should not be working with vulnerable youth.
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#17 UPDATE Employee

Here you go......

AUTHOR: Ibeentheredonethat - (U.S.A.)

Annoying someone via the Internet including email is a federal crime.
Penalties for posting annoying messages without disclosing your identity include stiff fines and prison.
Not only that it is in fine print that Rip off report doesnt confirm any of the information usually it is from a disgrunted client that is scorned. I personally am going to leave it as that, but by no means am I going let someone make up things, twist things around on me. Jh yes I did send you an email intially before I seen that you were apart of it.
There are many criminals and business rivals reporting fake complaints at Rip-off Report about their business competitors and rivals for the purpose of threatening and damaging competitor's good will. Many companies are suffering from fake reports published at Rip-off Report by their rivals and competitors with bad intentions to damage their trade mark, cause business loss and hurt their good will.
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Here you go......

AUTHOR: Ibeentheredonethat - (U.S.A.)

Annoying someone via the Internet including email is a federal crime.
Penalties for posting annoying messages without disclosing your identity include stiff fines and prison.
Not only that it is in fine print that Rip off report doesnt confirm any of the information usually it is from a disgrunted client that is scorned. I personally am going to leave it as that, but by no means am I going let someone make up things, twist things around on me. Jh yes I did send you an email intially before I seen that you were apart of it.
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#19 Consumer Comment

Ok first of ALL

AUTHOR: Ibeentheredonethat - (U.S.A.)

Of course noone is going to use their exact location and names are you sick!

I have no reason to lie...I am a current client on Liveperson, and I have had bad experience and good, Like I said clearly I have the ones I found to be right and wrong, If it wasnt for this post I wouldnt had tried some of the ones you sent me to. How do you all know that the documents are not falsified, I worked for a company that had inside investigators posing as employees to bring down the company even if it meant lying. Hey I am not here to bust anyones chops, but dont come at me like that at all, Because I am keeping it 100 % real.

And Iris just because you feel you are telling the truth doesnt mean you are accurate, I had a reader tell me that my ex husband was going to marry the woman he was with, didnt happen, she thought she was being honest, But she was wrong. So dont get it twisted honey. And you are rude very rude, and miserbale looking you changed your name many times to, So dont say who is fake and not honey Are you a born psychic, I found that many just gives advice anyway. Not true insight, especially not you.

If any of the above clients would like to come forward with me to post our screen names, then let me know, cause I will surely prove you wrong, take that to the bank honey!

USA, UK, Whatever!
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#20 UPDATE Employee

Ok Get it right

AUTHOR: Shining Love - (U.S.A.)

First of all , Why are you researching my email addresses, my log in date, the time I signed up etc, You may dig to deep that you dont know what the heck you are talking about and would be surprised on how desperate you look, and I certainly dont have multilple expert accounts for your information, sweety SOme of us do have gifts, noone is a 100% correct or accurate last say so is with GOD next You all must be miserable, and have lots of time on your hands, pop your pills and move on. I do my best with the clients I have, and I dont lie, and have no reason to do so, You all are focusing so much of your energy on, it makes me wonder if you have a life, you are making me your life, I am going to ignore this for the last time, and pray that you all find peace in the LOrd, I cannot believe how low you will go, I can to dig deep, why are you all constantly coming up with all this different bull, I mean come on get over it.....Not all of us are scammers, and from what I see you all have went stone crazy.... I dont sugar coat candy anything either, and Shining lies...give me a break....The more you people write stuff the more you send clients our way. If the site is so hurtful, fake, and unethical Why are you all still there! Huh? I didnt steal, i didnt cheat you, I didnt lie, I didnt sugar coat, LEAVE ME ALONE...Karma is a bad mutha you know what, "you are not miserable for no reason" Find peace and I shall pray for you all!

I have constant repeat clients honey, noone has glowing ratings from what I see the ones attacked the most have the highest repeat clients, its sad how noone has Attacked you Iris and you are personally attacking us....So sad.....


Blessings
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To Ibeentheredonethat... clearly the truth hurts

AUTHOR: Iris - (U.S.A.)

Ibeentheredonethat
Uk, Other
U.S.A.

So are you in the UK or USA? You seem geographically confused, along with being confused about which readers are fakes. Dr. Phil - FAKE. Some of those names you listed are very nice people, but they are NOT psychics.

You claim I was rude. I will admit that my style is not everyone's cup of tea. Many clients are not ready for the truth when they come to me. I often tell people the blunt truth to wake them up from their delusions. Most still want the candy-coated readings. I refuse to enable codependent behavior.

You must be one of those clients who couldn't handle the straight answer. That is your problem, not mine.

99% of my clients are thrilled that someone finally releases them from the false hope. There will be the 1% like you who are unhappy. My feedback speaks for itself in that regard.

I would love to know your Kasamba name so I could look up our transcripts to see what got you so miffed.

Regardless, your list is as bogus as the people on it.
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#22 Consumer Comment

And one more thing.....

AUTHOR: S - (United Kingdom)

If Shining Lies was not an expert until 08, but was definately around in 07, then the possibility of her being ANOTHER EXPERT at that time is very very real. Now I am not saying that she was because I dont' know that for a fact (yet) and I would NEVER state that unless it could be proven, but you know if the cap fits.....

Could explain how much she "knows" without you saying anything. She's read for you before. There are plenty of fake scamming psychics that have multiple accounts and multiple personalities (even gender changes) that are PROVEN. Why not her?

We shall see.
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#23 Consumer Comment

Hmmmm

AUTHOR: S - (United Kingdom)

So Shining Lies joined the kasambavictims group in July 07. Shining Lies was not an expert then according to her feedback which starts in Feb 08.

So....that leaves the question....were you a client, (obviously a ripped off one to sign up to a group called kasambavictims) or one of the many many fake scammers that infiltrated that group at the time, to try and bring it down as you were scared for your profits?

Also, you state on the expert forum, when "warning" other experts about terrible wicked clients telling lies about you all, that your "not usually one for drama" or getting involved in mudslinging. Well as you read ROR, have joined BOTH groups set up by Janice (even before me for both groups I might add!!!) your statement "not one for drama" really doesnt stand up does it. Any group or site that is FULL OF DRAMA, and there you are....at the front of the queue!!!!

ALSO....you stated to Janice (which is screenshotted and proven) when you emailed her a few days ago, to try to get her to stop clients in the group talking about you, that you had signed up because a client had informed you of the fact that you were being talked about. THAT is not true is it. Cos that was only a few days ago, when in actual fact you joined the group at the beginning of May. As I said even before I had got around to it!! and MOST of the other members. You could almost say you are a "founder member" lol!

If any of the posts here supporting Shining Lies are genuine (and I have my doubts about that) then WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE? I dont'; care how authentic your readings look...THEY ARE NOT!

She is a fraud and a liar...its proven over and over, why would you want to pay for a reading with someone who is a proven liar?
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#24 Consumer Comment

Hmmmm

AUTHOR: S - (United Kingdom)

So Shining Lies joined the kasambavictims group in July 07. Shining Lies was not an expert then according to her feedback which starts in Feb 08.

So....that leaves the question....were you a client, (obviously a ripped off one to sign up to a group called kasambavictims) or one of the many many fake scammers that infiltrated that group at the time, to try and bring it down as you were scared for your profits?

Also, you state on the expert forum, when "warning" other experts about terrible wicked clients telling lies about you all, that your "not usually one for drama" or getting involved in mudslinging. Well as you read ROR, have joined BOTH groups set up by Janice (even before me for both groups I might add!!!) your statement "not one for drama" really doesnt stand up does it. Any group or site that is FULL OF DRAMA, and there you are....at the front of the queue!!!!

ALSO....you stated to Janice (which is screenshotted and proven) when you emailed her a few days ago, to try to get her to stop clients in the group talking about you, that you had signed up because a client had informed you of the fact that you were being talked about. THAT is not true is it. Cos that was only a few days ago, when in actual fact you joined the group at the beginning of May. As I said even before I had got around to it!! and MOST of the other members. You could almost say you are a "founder member" lol!

If any of the posts here supporting Shining Lies are genuine (and I have my doubts about that) then WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE? I dont'; care how authentic your readings look...THEY ARE NOT!

She is a fraud and a liar...its proven over and over, why would you want to pay for a reading with someone who is a proven liar?
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#25 Consumer Comment

For beenthere

AUTHOR: Jh - (U.S.A.)

I won't argue about Shining Love, as the info has been put out there and links have as well, so I just hope that all of you sticking with her find out sooner than later that what we've been saying is true. I'm devastated, but I saw three exactly the same transcripts, same questions, same visions, same things when she "looked" at people. I was thinking earlier how if she'd read about my former ex the same things would have applied to him too.....or most men! Just like her saying that other women/exes/wives/girlfriends are all clingy, aggressive, want things their way. It's all generalizations and not just confirms a person's dislike for this other party, it also is the way that a lot of females do behave when they're not in the happiest of situations!

It's all so clear now....

For the others you mentioned, there's mixed feedback on them, too. High Priestess was a sweetheart and it seemed that what she said would happen - but it didn't beyond a bad thing! Terry M. was all made up stuff - and then he left me hanging. David James gave me two distinct outcomes. One didn't happen, the other actually happened to my ex! In his last read for me what he said was going on right that moment was disproven within the next 20 minutes or so. Yet when he read about short term issues, he was dead on. And he'd tell me my concern before I even finished typing a few words. I'd say for easier issues he's definitely good. But I also think that's due to the fact that he does rush you in and out of sessions.

Dr. Phil was very "Men are from Mars...." with me - but very wrong in his prediction. And I see now that the reading was fake. Look at some of his regular clients feedback. He's leading them on and it looks like he keeps pushing things with them timeframe wise or free will wise.

There's a lot of info about Watchman Aquiya and Powerful Visions....please do a little searching on the ROR before hiring them. Stick with who's proven to give you solid predictions that have happened.
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#26 Consumer Comment

Ibeentheredonethat :) Iris :) Shining Lies (vomit)

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

Thankyou for your insightful post. Before you try watchman and powerful visions you might want to check out the information in the group-..or not...you are welcome

Iris, I actually don't have ADD lol.. just a bad temper when it comes to injustice and I lose focus when my minds is tired. Don't forget I do research all day, process so much information and write up that my mind goes into overload. For example, for this journal review I had to read around 280 journal articles and we will cite 200 or so. I have to remember what is in them all. Doing this on top is a hell of a job and that is why I am so please that the mods can do a much better job thanme in the group and I can finish this. I am tired. The group is wonderful though as everyone is contributing to the research. In fact they are preparing a good case study on Shining Lies

BTW, Shining Lies, I was looking for Psycho Susans emails and I found that you applied to join the Kasamba Victims group (Tues July 31st 2007 to be exact). I know because you used one of the three logins that you had on the weakguyonkasmba group.

So, when exactly did you go from being a 'victim' to a holier than thou guru? Or were you trying to infiltrate to cause trouble.

Either way it is not a good look for clients. Trust issues etc...but I don't think you know what trust means. Certainly, you are not above posting client information in the public domain. Oh and lying about your ratings-we sprung ya on that one too. I will post the proof later this week and I will post some case studies. I am just having a few days off and then back to it.

Susan is wrong (as usual) I don't have the mental or emotional energy to stalk anyone. I have to stop writing up the research on the frauds for a week or two because it makes me ill to look at them at the moment.

Iris, I am going to write up the section on practices policies etc starting this weekend and your advice will be invaluable. I think if finish that bit then really it is just a matter of adding in new info from the members-mostly to enhance the case studies like more similiar transcripts that have come to light from Readings with Lee and Fruno the fraud, writing the summary, editing (yes, I know we'll fight over that one but we will come too an agreement-we always do...lol)
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#27 Consumer Suggestion

I am Thankful for this Post about the readers, cause now I can share my experiences

AUTHOR: Ibeentheredonethat - (U.S.A.)

Ok firstly I have been a client with Kasamba for over a year.
My first experience was with David James, which was on the first page, top reader.
He was very honest, very fast, quick to the point, became a regular.
My worst experience was with High Priestess, Terry Mastrimaso, and Penny
Nothing they said happened at all. I was fed false hope with those three. So I am going to share my list. Now I read this post 2 days ago, and decided to try Shining Love I didnt tell her I had read this post, anyhow I dont think that was a cold reading, noone could have know what she told me, not one reader ever told me the things she did...I gave her my first name, no last name, no location, no dob, she tapped into me like she knew me, Labriele did to another good reader. So Shining love may use the same words, but I wanted to try for myself so that if it was bogus I could two expose the fakes and the real, She gave me some predictions, so I will wait to let you know how that went, but the past, present, was spot on. Here are my list of readers below the good and the bad.

1.) High priestess- nice as ever, but nothing happened.
2.) Terry Mastriamismo- Cute pic but nothing happened.
3.) Penny- Nothing happened.
4.) Ms Laura- Not a psychic, but good information
5.) David James- good reader
6.) Shining Love- She was fantastic for me even with the bad news.
7.) Earhtshod- I also tried a while back- was good for me.
8.) Master Z- fake
9.) Readings by Amber- Fake
10. Readings by Lee- expensive and didnt happen.
11. Fruno- didnt happen, but information was good.
12.) Iris the messenger- rude, mean, nothing happened.
13.) Katherine- Good for me, good person to
14.0 Nythar- nice as ever, nothing happened,but I like her alot
15>) Alexandra- Amazing I love her
16.) Jennifer W- my sister used her regularly she is great to
17.) Psychic Clair dee- no good for me, but sister loves her.
18.)Nubiagoddes- no good
19.) Mark wright- no good expensive
20.) Dr.love- no good
21.) Dr. Phil awesome.

So you see I am a professional at spotting fakes, so here are the ones that were very good for me

1.) David James
2.0 Shining love
3.0 Alexandra
4.0 JenniferW my sister's favorite
5.) Katherine
6.) Dr. Phil
7.) Earthshod
8.) Nythar

Ones that you really must stay away from

1.) Dr. love
2.) High priestess- sells false hope
3.) Penny- dont know about things right....
4.) Yeah Sara fina is a fake
5.)Iris the messenger mean as ever
6.)And Master Z the phoney one of them all Phew!

Who I like to try

1.) Melodie
2. Watchman Aquiya
3.) Powerful Visions
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#28 Consumer Comment

Yes well they can't be too bright---most people can tell the difference between an 's' & 'z"\'

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

It is clear, apart from the difference in writing styles, that Jh is a gentle spirit and I am not. I have a very distinct writing style in posts simply because I write all day at work and tend to write in conversation mode.

Jh, S and Iris are always precise in their posts. Mine are as slack as because I write so much in my work and I have to write in a scientific style that is mentally tiring.

I often think poor Iris reads them and grits her teeth because the syntax and speling is usually really bad. I do NOT write like that for work. I cannot be stuffed with checking all that in posts.

But let us make it simple for you. Spelling in innate. There may be a spell check on ROR but neither S nor I are likely to find it anytime soon because neither of us are exactly computer wizes.

Apart from that I will explain it simply for you one more time:

THERE ARE TWO FORMS OF SPELLING:

The most obvious differences are the 's' and the 'z' and 'o' and 'ou'.

Look at previous posts.

Iris and Jh are American and they would write a sentence like this:

I realized that it was not the color that I wanted.

S is British and I am Australian. We use the same system. We would write:

I realised that it was not the colour that I wanted.

Why is this so difficult? It is NOT rocket science. Anyone with an IQ in tripple digits would understand this.

Honestly love takes whatever, do you not see how stupid you look when you make comments like Jh and I are the same person.

I cannot even be bothered writing correct sentances let alone trying to figure out how to change styles...

Unless of course you were 'put up to it' by Shining Lies who couldn't see the truth if God him/herself tried to show it to her.

Just a thought.....
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#29 Consumer Suggestion

Sorry I just cannot agree with this one

AUTHOR: Canadalove - (U.S.A.)

I am sure with her ratings Shininglove you all will get alot more traffic of the good and the bad...But I just dont feel she is a phoney, Now Master Z is definately!
You know there are the good ones, ok ones, and the bad....But I just dont get that with her, and How many experts to you get that actually say they dont know??? Being honest that I can also agree with, aside from that I dont have to send large amounts of money, I dont have to hire right away, I mean I am willing to share some transcripts which in this case, my case will prove she is great for me! Anyway I want to hear anything more about Master Z, Have you all seen some of the outrageous rates $20.00 a min! what the Heck
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#30 Consumer Comment

You must be deluded.....

AUTHOR: S - (United Kingdom)

If you seriously think that Shining Lies is anything but a phoney fruad.

How much more evidence do you want? Have you even questioned your own readings or reflected on them and even WANDERED if they to, may be scripted?

Have you really looked at them...I mean properly.

Some tell tale signs are in the questions in an answer she gives. For example, your feeling this way arent you?

Have you not had to tell her things before she can read for you. Have you never had to correct her, or give information because what she has just stated is not right, only to be told something like "oh thats why I was seeing so and so I was confused as to why I was seeing that" before giving more "information".

And have you actually got clear predictions NOT INCLUDING how someone is thinking or feeling or acting, that have occured?

And again, why do you think that other clients who have now shared transcripts have had scripted readings and yours couldnt possibly be the same.

Have you not had emails asking how you are, with "I saw something come up for you regarding blah blah blah so I was just checking in with you" and then on that basis you arrange another reading when you were not going to at taht time.

Its hard, when you believe and trust someone and they have wowed you, its painful to face the truth, but better to face it than be advised by a phoney and be paying good money for that advice as well.

If you say no to all of the above then I am sorry but you will have to find out later rather than sooner. And mark my words you WILL find out. Unfortunately you have not used this site for the purpose it is supposed to be for, and that is to find out who is ripping you off.

I hope when the penny eventually drops, you will come here and say so.

Oh and by the way Jh is NOT Janice, and whoever has said different has told you lies.
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#31 Consumer Comment

Oh yes, PS to the scripted issue

AUTHOR: Jh - (U.S.A.)

I did notice that while the general patterns and sayings and things she "sees" are the same for everyone, Shining does differ her style a bit for someone who's married vs someone who's not.

All transcripts I saw were from females. There may be a "male" style as well, but I'm unaware of it right now.
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#32 Consumer Comment

No, I'm not Janice

AUTHOR: Jh - (U.S.A.)

For Love Takes Time - NO I'm not Janice. I've even outed myself in a few places as to my LP name, which is guac. You can look me up there in feedbacks.

You can also see me on weakguys.

Janice and I don't write the same way, and anyone can see that. Writing styles are very distinct in some cases, and Janice has a distinct way she writes when she's writing in "informal" forums.

Shining Love has a very distinct style, too, with her spelling and wording and such, which is how anyone would know if she ever created another reader persona.

Read what I wrote about the devastation of reading scripted readings from several people. You can even contact me through weakguys (I'm kacho55 there - yahoo ID). I'll happily show you some of my transcripts and you can judge for yourself. Now, I don't know if SL reads differently for men than women, but the transcripts I saw were all for females. I kept having to stop reading them as I'd gasp and would jolt my head up, look blankly at the wall, and think OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD. It is THAT shocking and that scripted. This woman is a master at this. This is her area of expertise. She's taken us all for a ride.
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#33 Consumer Comment

LOVE WHATEVER LEARN TO READ-SHINING LIES-I AM SUING YOU

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

WOULD YOU LIKE TO PROVIDE SOME PROOF?

I am Australian. We use the British system of spelling. i.e. s instead of z

i spell realise not realize

I spell colour, not color

LOOK AT THE POSTS AND LEARN TO READ. I AM NOT JH. SHUT UP OR I WILL GO AFTER YOU ALSO.

Shining Lies, I AM SUING YOU-WHATEVER YOU SAY YOU HAVE THE REALITY IS YOU MADE DEFAMATORY STATEMENTS ABOUT ME. THAT IS ALL THE COURT WILL LOOK AT

GO 'GET LEGAL' AND FIND OUT.

SINCE I AM SUING SUSAN NCDOWELL FROM SOUTHHAMPTON NY, I MAY AS WELL SUE YOU ALSO.

I HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF YOU ENDANGERING MY FAMILY. MY FATHER IS 87 AND FRAIL

I WILL WORRY EVERY SECOND THAT I AM AWAY FROM THE HOUSE.

I WILL KEEP ON DOING WHAT I PLANNED. I WILL SIMPLY GIVE YOUR DETAILS TO A LAWYER AND A COURT ORDER WILL BE SENT TO LIVEPERSON REQUESTING YOUR HOME ADDRESS.

YOU WILL HAVE TO COME HERE. OF COURSE THERE IS ONE WAY TO AVOID THIS. YOU WILL BE SENT A LIST OF THE DEFAMATORY STATEMENTS BY MY LAWYER.
YOU WILL, FOR EXAMPLE, BE ASKED TO PROVE THAT I THINK MY DOG IS A DOCTOR.

I WILL POP UP THE ROAD, SEE MY GP AND ASK FOR A REFERRAL FOR A PSYCHATRIC EVALUATION. IT WILL COST, $2-300. OF COURSE, I WILL BE HAPPY TO SUBMIT TO AN EXAMINATION BY A PSYCHIATRIST OF YOUR CHOICE. YOU WILL HAVE TO FLY HIM HERE.

THE REPORT WILL PROVE I DO NOT THINK MY DOG IS A DOCTOR.

EVERY DEFAMATORY STATEMENT THAT YOU HAVE MADE AND INTEND TO MAKE WILL BE INCLUDED. YOU WILL BE ASKED TO PROVIDE PROOF.

THE COURT WIL BE SHOWN THE COPIES OF YOUR LIES. THE GROUP MENBERS WILL PROVIDE SIGNED STATEMENTS THAT I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH OUTING YOU. IT WILL TAKE THEM 2-3 MINUTES TO WRITE IT.

YOU WILL BE ASKED TO PROVE THE BASIS FOR YOUR ALLEGATION THAT I APPLIED FOR MY DOG TO BE AN EXPERT IN ORDER TO HURT CLIENTS.

SEE, I NEVER EVEN DOWNLOADED THE COMMINCATION SUITE - THERE WAS NO POINT AS I HAD NOT INTENDED TO USE IT. I HAVE SCREENSHOTS OF EVERY FRAME OF THE PROCESS.

SHINING LIES, YOU SAY YOU DON'T HURT PEOPLE YET YOU TRIED TO HURT ME AND I WAS ACTUALLY INNOCENT OF THIS ONE. WHAT KIND OF MONSTER ARE YOU?

I HAVE HAD ENOUGH AND I WILL HAND THIS DEFAMATION ISSUE OVER TO A LAWYER, IN ORDER TO SUE BOTH YOU AND SUSAN MCDOWELL AND GET ON WITH THINGS.

YOU ARE BOTH EVIL PEOPLE. I ACTUALLY NEVER HURT EITHER OF YOU. YOU JUST PICKED ME AS A CONVENINET TARGET. WELL SHINING LIES-YOUR SUPPOSED TALENT DESERTED YOU BECAUSE SURELY YOU WOULD HAVE KNOW I WOULD DO THIS.

I AM DEADLY SERIOUS-I HAVE HAD HARDLY ANY SLEEP FOR TWO DAYS, HARDLY EATEN AND I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET ANY WORK DONE.

I WILL NOT LIVE LIKE THIS AND I WILL NOT STOP WHAT I AM DOING

I WILL PUT A STOP TO YOU BOTH.

CHECK THE LAW. YOU HAVE TO COME TO AUSTRALIA TO DEFEND THE CASE.

You haven't got a hope in hell of having it heard in the US.

THE PRACTICE WITH INTERNET DEFAMATION IS THAT IF I FILE HERE, UNLIKE IN THE US, THE CASE CAN BE HEARD IN THE STATE IN WHICH IT IS FILED AS LONG AS THE INFORMATION WAS AVAILABLE.

I HAVE DATED SCREENSHOTS OF EVERYTHING. I CAN PROVE I WAS HERE BECAUSE, WELL I HAD COFFEE WITH A WELL RESPECTED LAWYER THE DAY THE DEFAMATION OCCURED.

I AM GOING TO DO THIS

I HAVE HAD ENOUGH

BUT MAYBE I AM WRONG---YOU DO HAVE PROOF

YOU WEREN'T LYING, DON'T YOU. I MEAN YOU CAN PROVE THAT I THOUGHT MY DOG WAS A DOCTOR. YOU WOULDN'T LIE AND MANIPULATE WOULD YOU?

YOU DO HAVE PROOF THAT I WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR GATHHERING THE TRANSCRIPTS. DIDN'T I STATE ON THE GROUP THAT I WANTED TO STAY OUT OF IT. I THINK I DID ..LOL

GEE I HAVE A DATED SCREENSHOT THAT SHOWS THAT WAS MY RESPONSE?

I COULD BE LYING BUT I WILL BRING STATEMENTS FROM SEVERAL GROUP MENEBERS THAT SUPPORT THAT I WAS NOT INVOLVED.

BUT OF COURSE YOU ARE GOD-GIVEN AND WOULDN'T LIE.

MAYBE WE ARE ALL LYING? BUT SHINING LIES, LISTEN TO ME. THE THING THAT IS GONNA GET YOU IS THE DOG-YOU HAVE TO PROVE THOSE TWO STATEMENTS.

OF COURSE THIS WOULD MEANIN I HAVE A MENTAL HEALTH ILLNESS SUCH AS A PSYCHOSIS.

BUT YOU'RE AN EXPERT IN 'MENTAL' AND THEREFORE YOUR DIAGNOSIS WOULD CONCUR WITH THAT OF THE PSYCHIATRIST THAT I WILL ARRANGE TO EXAMINE ME.

I WILL DRIVE 6 MILES AND SPEND TWO HOURS THERE. IT IS GOING TO COST YOU MAYBE AROUND $100,000 ALL UP.

WE SENT THE COPY OF YOUR DISCUSTING DISPLAY OF CONTEMPT FOR CLIENTS-THEY SHOILD B ALLOWED IN HERE WITH US...

OH AND YOU GOODGLE RATINGS AND REVEAL CLIENTS INFORMATION-MAYBE NOT ILLEGAL BUT CLIENTS HATE THAT.

THEY ARE AFRAID THAT YOU WILL DO TO THEM WHAT YOU DID TO ME. NOT GOOD FOR BUSINESS AND YOU ARE GOING TO NEED ALL THE BUSINESS YOU CAN GET BECAUSE I AM SUING YOU.
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#34 Consumer Comment

Brokenhearted

AUTHOR: Jh - (U.S.A.)

I was a trusted client of yours, Shining, I WAS. When I read the negative things here I defended you voraciously! NO THAT CAN'T BE!! I expressed my concerns privately to someone who'd had a reading with you, and I showed her a few early transcripts. She replied that it matched hers word for word and issue for issue and showed her transcripts to me.

I was shocked. I mentioned it to someone else. We traded transcripts - same thing. Word for word scripting and cold reading. Then there was yet another trade and the same thing. Scripted word for word readings. Someone else on the weakguy list has also said she got the same read from you.

You did lower your rate for me once early on, yes. It was nice, but that and the emails (which you've sent to others) are to lure people in for reads and to think you're honest. You know what you're doing here and you're very good at it. You are VERY GOOD at it! Just not in defending yourself!!

You told me to take some action - TWICE! - months ago. I did and it got me nothing but grief. I feel like a food thinking back on that. You then danced around it and said we should leave contacting this person alone for a while since he's confused and lashes out at me. Looking back NOW I see how much damage that did, as when he did respond later about something unrelated I found out about and was upset about, he used those past communications to bitch me out on. I cried over what he said to me for about 3 days straight. My garbage cans at work and home were filled with tissues and I had to start putting lotion on my nose cause it was all shredded from the tissues! It was NOT GOOD!!!

I felt bad but I still trusted you. You were honest and accurate, right? The funny thing is that I held back on saying what I really even wanted to say when I did contact this person, as you kept telling me to keep it a certain way. You were soooo accurate with your cold reads before this that I trusted you. And it hurt me! And it's hurt others.

You told me things were going to happen in August. Never happened - any of it (there were at least 3 things to look for). The predictions started coming a bit more "solidly" during the last reads I had with you in early July. That was to keep me interested. Then you contacted me weeks later and I nearly went into a session with you due to the "new" info you gave me. But I figured I'd wait to see what happened.

Your biggest prediction that I'd been waiting and waiting for all these months was supposed to have happened before the end of this month and before I do some traveling. I was told there'd be an opportunity to get back with my ex or just get closure (my choice). But if I didn't want him, there'd be someone else showing up after the ex and I started to discuss things. And things would fall into place and I'd see it all work out on it's own.

Well, none of that has happened. There's no one else. There's not even a male friend like you said would pop up. The trip is in a week and a half, and from what I know (though I need to talk to the person who'd know for sure in real life), I think my ex is either still with his rebound girlfriend (who you didn't see till I TOLD YOU about her - and I know now that she was in the picture before I even read with you) or possibly has yet another short term girl. He'd never ever have the guts to apologize to me or admit things to me or anything. If he did, he'd do it with game playing or because he wanted something. Nor would he be man enough to go back with me - if he was then he'd of not gotten cold feet months ago when we were perfect and had no problems. I can see that now after all this pain and after all this prolonged hope I was being given. I can see he's poison NOW. I can see what a selfish coward he is NOW. But all summer long I thought.there's hope.I trust Shining Love. Some others, too (though I do think one was honest, just wrong. The others -- fakes). I had no idea you were cold script reading everyone. I was lead on and went through hell. You have no idea how bad this year has been and you have no idea how low I got with this and medical things and other things, and how frightened friends were that I'd harm myself at times with how bad everything coming my way was. You had no idea as you're not a psychic. You just fed me false hope that the man I still unfortunately love really was human under his cowardice.

I've seen in my reads and others how you sometimes guess things or make things up, too, and are able to explain it away or just ignore it even if the Q is repeated. I can see it all now that I've seen so many transcripts. I'm heartbroken and devastated.

"Jh how can you expect a pure and peaceful future to arise, if you are engaging in 'negative games' I know you were hurt, we discussed this remember?"

Yes, many seeing you were/are hurt! But negative games - ME? Don't you mean YOU? You keep going down with the ship here - and it's already sunk! FYI, I finally did something last week that made me feel better than anything any reader told me (and it was against what a few readers said to do). It released a bit of the nightmare's grip on me. Then I started making some plans for things to do. One is scheduled, the others I have to wait on till I feel emotionally okay for it. And then there's my trip which, instead of seeing my ex during (remember there was that "strong possibility" I'd see him there after our HUGE talk BEFORE my trip according to you?), I'll be there on my own and will revisit places I was with him and see how I handle it in each place. I've even packed a dress I haven't worn since I last saw him just because the dress was so important last time. I may just go shopping in it for all I know. And that's fine. It's still meaningful to me and will be (silly as it seems) a brave thing for me. I felt sick just looking at it while packing yesterday!

So I'M taking steps to try and move on no matter how broken hearted I still am. Part of what kept this pain going and kept me in the worst pressure points of this hell has been the hope and the "he'll contact you at your least expectation" stuff and the "you two will have a discussion and lots of big things will come out". I'll tell you, that's all I've wished for for so long. And you seemed honest and you assured me of it (and others I'm sure). But it was false hope that kept me in the pressure cooker and kept me in hell. It was all lies to keep me as a client and keep the $$ rolling in. The same as with others. It's just that with my luck I was likely in worse shape than others who've seen you.

BTW, you must have an interesting work schedule and situation since you'd need to not sleep at all in order to work the midnight shift yet still be online when you are. I like to check feedback of readers I've used through the day. Sometimes though I check because I know someone's a fraud and when I see the same names over and over, I worry about them, whoever they are. Because I know what will hit them when they realize they were being ripped off by a fake reader.
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#35 Consumer Suggestion

First impression is last impression

AUTHOR: Lovetakestime - (U.S.A.)

Jh is Janice you both said how good and wonderful Shining Love is, so people will only go off what they see for themselves, I myself think some of these readers are cold readers.....lol I have to agree with Master Z being a mess, and Penny is also another one that was wrong for me, very wrong. I sent a friend to Shining love and she was to also accurate for her to.... My reading does show similar wording, but it wasnt the same reading and very accurate for me, very accurate.
I also use some of the lower priced readers, and I found that sometime going cheaper is also better Anyhow I have had bad experience, I just stay away from the fakes. And get over it....

Yes stay away from Sara Fina, MAster Z, and Oh I have a new one, she was not good Tracey the Spy Argh! One reader on there changes his screen name and pic from woman to man , man to woman.... Guidance by Alan something like that.

I agree with the above..I am not here to take sides, but I can vouch for the real ones, with experiences that may not have been good for you.

Yes Dancing Autumn is Good.... Love her!
Shining Love, Sorry but I love her, so accurate, so caring, and I have to say she is one of the top readers.

David James is blunt straight to the point, so hey somethings may not be liked when he says it, so he is in the middle middle....lol

And many more, but hey......
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#36 Consumer Comment

Jasper-I thought that I had seen it all until you posted that garbage

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

I have hundreds of pages of research that show EVERYONE OF THOSE GUIDLINES IS BROKEN ON A DAILY BASIS BY SO MANY BENT EXPERTS THAT RIGHT NOW IF I EVEN THINK OF ONE OF THEM I WANT TO VOMIT. THE COMPANY KNOWS ABOUT IT I HAVE EMAILS FROM EXPERTS TO WHOM I PAID A LOT OF MONEY AND THEY WERE ALL SWEET AN NICE AND 'HON' THIS AND 'HON' THAT UNTIL I CHALLENGED THEM AND THEN I WAS EVIL AND FULL OF HATE.

If they were so psychic why didn't they pick that up before I started paying them a lot of money.

Don't bother to try the 'blame the victim' tactic. I have had that inflicted on me by far smarter people than you. I didn't believe it then and i don't believe it now. The difference is now I know how the frauds manipulate people and how the company supports it.

I have seen the 'crimes' that Iris allegedly committed. The company considered them crimes against their wholesale, untrammelled exploitation of clients and legitimate experts.

See Jasper, my dog was too busy trying to avoid the cat to ever practice medicine or provide any counselling so I went to check his mail etc.

I thought the right to have a job and fair working conditions were a fundamental aspect of democratic society. Oh that's right psychics don't count because they are outside mainstream society so they get to pay 37% of what they earn, are not allowed to challenge the practices of a company THAT WORKS FOR THEM.

I was NEVER against psychics, only frauds but my short, but informative career as Dr Jake's assistant opened my eyes. The work practices and the way that Liveperson treats clients is illegal even in the US. It would never be tolerated in Australia and a lot of the European countries.

Iris was publicly hung in order to keep others quiet and because she was too smart.

I saw what got her removed-an extremely intelligent analysis of significant, shall we say deficits in company honesty. I was impressed and I DO have a doctorate. Part of that degree was on workplace practices. I know what I am talking about and so did Iris.

Conversely, I look at your diatribe and I wonder how it is that you could EVER expect anyone here to believe it. We are here because the practices you copied from wherever DO NOT OCCUR.

This is not a place where happy little clients gather to chat about how well they were treated.
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#37 Consumer Comment

Jasper-I thought that I had seen it all until you posted that garbage

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

I have hundreds of pages of research that show EVERYONE OF THOSE GUIDLINES IS BROKEN ON A DAILY BASIS BY SO MANY BENT EXPERTS THAT RIGHT NOW IF I EVEN THINK OF ONE OF THEM I WANT TO VOMIT. THE COMPANY KNOWS ABOUT IT I HAVE EMAILS FROM EXPERTS TO WHOM I PAID A LOT OF MONEY AND THEY WERE ALL SWEET AN NICE AND 'HON' THIS AND 'HON' THAT UNTIL I CHALLENGED THEM AND THEN I WAS EVIL AND FULL OF HATE.

If they were so psychic why didn't they pick that up before I started paying them a lot of money.

Don't bother to try the 'blame the victim' tactic. I have had that inflicted on me by far smarter people than you. I didn't believe it then and i don't believe it now. The difference is now I know how the frauds manipulate people and how the company supports it.

I have seen the 'crimes' that Iris allegedly committed. The company considered them crimes against their wholesale, untrammelled exploitation of clients and legitimate experts.

See Jasper, my dog was too busy trying to avoid the cat to ever practice medicine or provide any counselling so I went to check his mail etc.

I thought the right to have a job and fair working conditions were a fundamental aspect of democratic society. Oh that's right psychics don't count because they are outside mainstream society so they get to pay 37% of what they earn, are not allowed to challenge the practices of a company THAT WORKS FOR THEM.

I was NEVER against psychics, only frauds but my short, but informative career as Dr Jake's assistant opened my eyes. The work practices and the way that Liveperson treats clients is illegal even in the US. It would never be tolerated in Australia and a lot of the European countries.

Iris was publicly hung in order to keep others quiet and because she was too smart.

I saw what got her removed-an extremely intelligent analysis of significant, shall we say deficits in company honesty. I was impressed and I DO have a doctorate. Part of that degree was on workplace practices. I know what I am talking about and so did Iris.

Conversely, I look at your diatribe and I wonder how it is that you could EVER expect anyone here to believe it. We are here because the practices you copied from wherever DO NOT OCCUR.

This is not a place where happy little clients gather to chat about how well they were treated.
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#38 Consumer Comment

Jasper-I thought that I had seen it all until you posted that garbage

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

I have hundreds of pages of research that show EVERYONE OF THOSE GUIDLINES IS BROKEN ON A DAILY BASIS BY SO MANY BENT EXPERTS THAT RIGHT NOW IF I EVEN THINK OF ONE OF THEM I WANT TO VOMIT. THE COMPANY KNOWS ABOUT IT I HAVE EMAILS FROM EXPERTS TO WHOM I PAID A LOT OF MONEY AND THEY WERE ALL SWEET AN NICE AND 'HON' THIS AND 'HON' THAT UNTIL I CHALLENGED THEM AND THEN I WAS EVIL AND FULL OF HATE.

If they were so psychic why didn't they pick that up before I started paying them a lot of money.

Don't bother to try the 'blame the victim' tactic. I have had that inflicted on me by far smarter people than you. I didn't believe it then and i don't believe it now. The difference is now I know how the frauds manipulate people and how the company supports it.

I have seen the 'crimes' that Iris allegedly committed. The company considered them crimes against their wholesale, untrammelled exploitation of clients and legitimate experts.

See Jasper, my dog was too busy trying to avoid the cat to ever practice medicine or provide any counselling so I went to check his mail etc.

I thought the right to have a job and fair working conditions were a fundamental aspect of democratic society. Oh that's right psychics don't count because they are outside mainstream society so they get to pay 37% of what they earn, are not allowed to challenge the practices of a company THAT WORKS FOR THEM.

I was NEVER against psychics, only frauds but my short, but informative career as Dr Jake's assistant opened my eyes. The work practices and the way that Liveperson treats clients is illegal even in the US. It would never be tolerated in Australia and a lot of the European countries.

Iris was publicly hung in order to keep others quiet and because she was too smart.

I saw what got her removed-an extremely intelligent analysis of significant, shall we say deficits in company honesty. I was impressed and I DO have a doctorate. Part of that degree was on workplace practices. I know what I am talking about and so did Iris.

Conversely, I look at your diatribe and I wonder how it is that you could EVER expect anyone here to believe it. We are here because the practices you copied from wherever DO NOT OCCUR.

This is not a place where happy little clients gather to chat about how well they were treated.
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#39 Consumer Comment

Jasper-I thought that I had seen it all until you posted that garbage

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

I have hundreds of pages of research that show EVERYONE OF THOSE GUIDLINES IS BROKEN ON A DAILY BASIS BY SO MANY BENT EXPERTS THAT RIGHT NOW IF I EVEN THINK OF ONE OF THEM I WANT TO VOMIT. THE COMPANY KNOWS ABOUT IT I HAVE EMAILS FROM EXPERTS TO WHOM I PAID A LOT OF MONEY AND THEY WERE ALL SWEET AN NICE AND 'HON' THIS AND 'HON' THAT UNTIL I CHALLENGED THEM AND THEN I WAS EVIL AND FULL OF HATE.

If they were so psychic why didn't they pick that up before I started paying them a lot of money.

Don't bother to try the 'blame the victim' tactic. I have had that inflicted on me by far smarter people than you. I didn't believe it then and i don't believe it now. The difference is now I know how the frauds manipulate people and how the company supports it.

I have seen the 'crimes' that Iris allegedly committed. The company considered them crimes against their wholesale, untrammelled exploitation of clients and legitimate experts.

See Jasper, my dog was too busy trying to avoid the cat to ever practice medicine or provide any counselling so I went to check his mail etc.

I thought the right to have a job and fair working conditions were a fundamental aspect of democratic society. Oh that's right psychics don't count because they are outside mainstream society so they get to pay 37% of what they earn, are not allowed to challenge the practices of a company THAT WORKS FOR THEM.

I was NEVER against psychics, only frauds but my short, but informative career as Dr Jake's assistant opened my eyes. The work practices and the way that Liveperson treats clients is illegal even in the US. It would never be tolerated in Australia and a lot of the European countries.

Iris was publicly hung in order to keep others quiet and because she was too smart.

I saw what got her removed-an extremely intelligent analysis of significant, shall we say deficits in company honesty. I was impressed and I DO have a doctorate. Part of that degree was on workplace practices. I know what I am talking about and so did Iris.

Conversely, I look at your diatribe and I wonder how it is that you could EVER expect anyone here to believe it. We are here because the practices you copied from wherever DO NOT OCCUR.

This is not a place where happy little clients gather to chat about how well they were treated.
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#40 Author of original report

Well I have to give up some info.....

AUTHOR: Caniknowanswers - (U.S.A.)

Well firstly I started the thread...and I have been to many readers.

Which I never gave my real birth name" I gave them a name that I used when I was being confidential and what they called me when I was younger.....a "nickname" The only two readers that were able to accurately tell me things that noone would know or noone would be able to pick up was.... Patricia Coleman and Shining love...... SUnnni is also pretty good. As for the worst experiences, and I worst which I did not mention was Voodoo Love Queen and Master Z, I mean if anyone is fake he is truly, he doesnt know anything and charges a arm and a leg. Most readers on there are cold readers, But I can share somethings with many of you , that I have told noone, Yes shining love did use some of those words and phrases, but she got deep into things with me and my situation, I referred a friend and she also nailed it, you can look at her ratings, we should be on the 3 page around late May early June ratings. As for Nythar as someone mentioned above she wasnt that good on predictions, but comforting she was to the 'T" Melodie is Good, no matter what I would rather have a friend then someone that just takes my money, So here are my fav readers and will always be, they dont scam me, they dont mislead me, off on somethings but I will come back to them. Here goes, and I would love to hear stories about MAster Z and Psychic Sandina and Sarafina


Stay away from Master Z overpriced and fake, Sara Fina now she gets your location, full name etc, and I question her genuine side, I think she is fake, Gyspy Raven is rude, Majorie Moonstone she isnt good, she changes her stories. Psychic Lessons in love is also rude, she blocked me...... My biggest dislike is Master z I mean $17 a min for what, now he is making a living.....

I stand by , Melodie, Shining love, Sunnni, Cach, and Dancing Autum heart is also a favorite.

And I know better I have been to many so I can spot a fake.
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#41 Consumer Comment

Jasper-I thought that I had seen it all until you posted that garbage

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

I have hundreds of pages of research that show EVERYONE OF THOSE GUIDLINES IS BROKEN ON A DAILY BASIS BY SO MANY BENT EXPERTS THAT RIGHT NOW IF I EVEN THINK OF ONE OF THEM I WANT TO VOMIT. THE COMPANY KNOWS ABOUT IT I HAVE EMAILS FROM EXPERTS TO WHOM I PAID A LOT OF MONEY AND THEY WERE ALL SWEET AN NICE AND 'HON' THIS AND 'HON' THAT UNTIL I CHALLENGED THEM AND THEN I WAS EVIL AND FULL OF HATE.

If they were so psychic why didn't they pick that up before I started paying them a lot of money.

Don't bother to try the 'blame the victim' tactic. I have had that inflicted on me by far smarter people than you. I didn't believe it then and i don't believe it now. The difference is now I know how the frauds manipulate people and how the company supports it.

I have seen the 'crimes' that Iris allegedly committed. The company considered them crimes against their wholesale, untrammelled exploitation of clients and legitimate experts.

See Jasper, my dog was too busy trying to avoid the cat to ever practice medicine or provide any counselling so I went to check his mail etc.

I thought the right to have a job and fair working conditions were a fundamental aspect of democratic society. Oh that's right psychics don't count because they are outside mainstream society so they get to pay 37% of what they earn, are not allowed to challenge the practices of a company THAT WORKS FOR THEM.

I was NEVER against psychics, only frauds but my short, but informative career as Dr Jake's assistant opened my eyes. The work practices and the way that Liveperson treats clients is illegal even in the US. It would never be tolerated in Australia and a lot of the European countries.

Iris was publicly hung in order to keep others quiet and because she was too smart.

I saw what got her removed-an extremely intelligent analysis of significant, shall we say deficits in company honesty. I was impressed and I DO have a doctorate. Part of that degree was on workplace practices. I know what I am talking about and so did Iris.

Conversely, I look at your diatribe and I wonder how it is that you could EVER expect anyone here to believe it. We are here because the practices you copied from wherever DO NOT OCCUR.

This is not a place where happy little clients gather to chat about how well they were treated.
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#42 UPDATE Employee

Is this a full time job for some of you?

AUTHOR: Shining Love - (U.S.A.)

Firstly, I know for a fact that 2 of above are actual clients of mines.
If you check my ratings, most of my clients are repeat, news ones does not rate me. I have one that only rates after prediction which is short term comes to pass.
So what I use the same wording, not all readings are the same, connected to the same nature is very unlikely, some of the people in question dont return love, some do. As for you JH "guac" I have never lead you wrong, was always caring and gave you truth you cannot sit here and make a bad reputation for me, because of the leader instilling the "negative seed which she is doing, again until you can say I made up a fairy tale, took your money, etc. As for long hours, I say logged on when I am sleep, when I am at work, I take the laptop around with me all the time.
I work at a Mental Institution, and I advocate for young woman at a local center in my hometown, I do have a 9-5, do I need my check stubs to prove it, its not your business or anyone elses what I do how I do it...All you need to figure out is Why are you 2 after me, I just did a reading with Janice last week, and Jh you sent me the most delightful email just the other day, you two dont rate right away and have left very pure and natural ratings.... WIth the 4 transcripts that were shared, I myself think that is purely ignorant, because now all will know your business, I could sit here and post something, emails, I have from Janice, and transcripts etc. But I am not going that low. This two will be my final post, because I will no longer look at this page. I have warned the readers about 2 clients I know for sure that are sharing transcripts and information about us all.
If you all had a life and moved on why are you still posting, why are you all so co-dependant on readers, I dont even advise my clients to visit me more then 1-2 a month, I have several that can vouche for that. And for the ones that are skeptics cause my accuracy is high, I have certifed documents, from when I was 18 years old showing my "natural gift: of clairvoyancy I can see things alot clearer at times, but very strong and clear at others. I will even stop my clients, before they tell me too much....I of course wont share any personal transcripts with my clients info, But its has been proven without any info, including dob I am able to connect directl with that person. For you Janice you didnt receive that love you wanted as a child, you were always hard on yourself. You are going through what you call it a "compulsive behavior disorder" you find peace from tearing down readers that you had have. I dont scam sweety, with just 2 or 3 clients I am doing ok, I dont need to attract and sell false hope. I have about hmmm 6 bad ratings, a couple that were not from inaccruacy.... I am not perfect, I have found with my time here On Lp that most clients jump from reader to reader, so of course you will be confused, of course you will want to confirm what the reader before told you, of course you will be hurt when nothing happens. I like to focus on the now. But you see psychics are not a sport, but I see that most clients use it as a hobby. And for most its smoothes them to satisfy the thought, and then guess what It becomes of addiction, you find yourself co-dependant. I had a client one that I know for sure is posting bad things about me....She questioned how I got my information, while after doing so,I said ok, let me supply you with details, and that I did....So then I guess she probably assumed I was sharing info, which at LP is not acceptable, you would have to be living in the same home for that sorry. I dont operate that way. I dont tell you what you want to hear, or what I feel you want to hear. And I am even more hurt with "guac" Because she was a very trusted client of mines, and was very understanding and warming, she had been scorned, cause yes she was sold alot of false hope, I told her what needed to be done, and how to get there...I didnt say what would happen just like that, and I use that term for all my clients :dont expect too much too soon, and yes usually the person in questions has clutter around them, stress etc, its common highly common, not all my cliients show that. In a sense I am Thankful this thread was started, because it will show those with the lack of faith and if you are not a believer in what one says then push on. I myself dont worry about what one says because you would only make me more noticable and people will want to try for themselves, and I have had that in the last month and they are all repeat.
If you look at my ratings they are 2-3 months of repeat clients. WHich I hold my clients in high regards, very much so. Jh how can you expect a pure and peaceful future to arise, if you are engaging in "negative games" I know you were hurt, we discussed this remember? But I was there for you, and I was sincere, I was real not being fake, I lowered the rate for you, I would send you emails just to check in and not to invite you for a new reading, etc I dont even rush my clients to hire.
If anyone seen my previous profile, if its still there, I put that if you are not planning on hiring, then go to email with me, to live it open for paying customers, because my clients were getting used to just chatting without hire. So I am by no means a scammer...and barely if ever ask for a rating. So dont get me twisted, cause I am not going to lie and hold you up about what I do, and how I do it.
So go ahead and compare transcripts, etc, share your bad experiences, but in this case there is a "motive behind" everything. Its all drama, like a bunch of females at an office. 3 of the screen names on weakguyonkasamaba are Janice....and again I havent been 100%, which usually comes from clients wanting to know the unthinkable, no I cannot tell you if you will get a job and then get fired, no I cannot tell you what type of job you will get? You would know what you are qualified to do, No I cannot tell you if how many times such and such cheated, timeframes are also pretty tough, But some of the stuff would be impossible to pinpoint. Yesterday I have a client, which read this stuff about me. Before she gave me anything, I asked for her first name only, no last name, no dob, I told her where she was, her zodiac sign, her age, full description of herself and she was over the water, and btw she didnt have dark hair....Just to prove what I am about, I gave her the option to express what she liked....... no force and she continued to hired. Sometimes I may read you to the "T" but can be off with the situation. Sometimes I can be accurate on it all, but off with a few other things, you just never know depending on the person, if I am knowing you long enough my precog is very strong, as in this case I knew that my sun could be shattered with darkeness from Jh that is known to be a bit hard on readers that have wronged her.
I wasnt fearful because I thought she would be there for me as I am for her. I thin I am more disappointed with her then anything, because 'Janice" is an acception she has serious issues, not a bad woman at all. She has let a man tear her down, and now she is coming back in pure evil to others. : Janice if he was there with you now, would you be spending your time posting, what you say is to be helping clients to recognize fakes, well honey, no you are not, you are manipilating them, you are making a big mess of drama, but half the clients will come back to Lp and most are still there.....Aside from that you tried registering with another account yourself, so if they are so horrible why are you still spending your money there??

Anyhow I end it here for myself, you can say what you want to say I am going to keep helping my clients, keep loving them, keep being who I am. I cannot change the past, but I can surely change what is "now". Good luck to you all.
By the way somethings are going to end......... With all the posting etc, mark my word, too many companies etc are being sabotaged by "mess" someone taking things person" Psychic sites are not by force, they are my choice, if you come there you came there because you wanted to, because you made the choice. SO dont get calling scammed, they are all fakes, honey until you get inside the book dont go off what you hear. Go off what you feel yourself, as long as you hear things about people you will begin to plant that thought in your mind. What may be good for one may not be good for another. I may have something good to tell you and the next may have something to tell you is not so good.

Anyhow I just hope you all find happiness and peace within yourself and others.
Forgive and move on.
What is strange though many of those you are targeting have the highest repeat traffic and clients???Makes you wonder....anyway I am not the one to know and dont want to.


Blessings,

And btw Jh, you dont know anything about me I work the midnite shift so it is very convenient to have my laptop at work with me...which btw many of my clients, trusted clients know......
Do you watch me or something?...dont answer I know......
I love you all, (hugs)
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Is this a full time job for some of you?

AUTHOR: Shining Love - (U.S.A.)

Firstly, I know for a fact that 2 of above are actual clients of mines.
If you check my ratings, most of my clients are repeat, news ones does not rate me. I have one that only rates after prediction which is short term comes to pass.
So what I use the same wording, not all readings are the same, connected to the same nature is very unlikely, some of the people in question dont return love, some do. As for you JH "guac" I have never lead you wrong, was always caring and gave you truth you cannot sit here and make a bad reputation for me, because of the leader instilling the "negative seed which she is doing, again until you can say I made up a fairy tale, took your money, etc. As for long hours, I say logged on when I am sleep, when I am at work, I take the laptop around with me all the time.
I work at a Mental Institution, and I advocate for young woman at a local center in my hometown, I do have a 9-5, do I need my check stubs to prove it, its not your business or anyone elses what I do how I do it...All you need to figure out is Why are you 2 after me, I just did a reading with Janice last week, and Jh you sent me the most delightful email just the other day, you two dont rate right away and have left very pure and natural ratings.... WIth the 4 transcripts that were shared, I myself think that is purely ignorant, because now all will know your business, I could sit here and post something, emails, I have from Janice, and transcripts etc. But I am not going that low. This two will be my final post, because I will no longer look at this page. I have warned the readers about 2 clients I know for sure that are sharing transcripts and information about us all.
If you all had a life and moved on why are you still posting, why are you all so co-dependant on readers, I dont even advise my clients to visit me more then 1-2 a month, I have several that can vouche for that. And for the ones that are skeptics cause my accuracy is high, I have certifed documents, from when I was 18 years old showing my "natural gift: of clairvoyancy I can see things alot clearer at times, but very strong and clear at others. I will even stop my clients, before they tell me too much....I of course wont share any personal transcripts with my clients info, But its has been proven without any info, including dob I am able to connect directl with that person. For you Janice you didnt receive that love you wanted as a child, you were always hard on yourself. You are going through what you call it a "compulsive behavior disorder" you find peace from tearing down readers that you had have. I dont scam sweety, with just 2 or 3 clients I am doing ok, I dont need to attract and sell false hope. I have about hmmm 6 bad ratings, a couple that were not from inaccruacy.... I am not perfect, I have found with my time here On Lp that most clients jump from reader to reader, so of course you will be confused, of course you will want to confirm what the reader before told you, of course you will be hurt when nothing happens. I like to focus on the now. But you see psychics are not a sport, but I see that most clients use it as a hobby. And for most its smoothes them to satisfy the thought, and then guess what It becomes of addiction, you find yourself co-dependant. I had a client one that I know for sure is posting bad things about me....She questioned how I got my information, while after doing so,I said ok, let me supply you with details, and that I did....So then I guess she probably assumed I was sharing info, which at LP is not acceptable, you would have to be living in the same home for that sorry. I dont operate that way. I dont tell you what you want to hear, or what I feel you want to hear. And I am even more hurt with "guac" Because she was a very trusted client of mines, and was very understanding and warming, she had been scorned, cause yes she was sold alot of false hope, I told her what needed to be done, and how to get there...I didnt say what would happen just like that, and I use that term for all my clients :dont expect too much too soon, and yes usually the person in questions has clutter around them, stress etc, its common highly common, not all my cliients show that. In a sense I am Thankful this thread was started, because it will show those with the lack of faith and if you are not a believer in what one says then push on. I myself dont worry about what one says because you would only make me more noticable and people will want to try for themselves, and I have had that in the last month and they are all repeat.
If you look at my ratings they are 2-3 months of repeat clients. WHich I hold my clients in high regards, very much so. Jh how can you expect a pure and peaceful future to arise, if you are engaging in "negative games" I know you were hurt, we discussed this remember? But I was there for you, and I was sincere, I was real not being fake, I lowered the rate for you, I would send you emails just to check in and not to invite you for a new reading, etc I dont even rush my clients to hire.
If anyone seen my previous profile, if its still there, I put that if you are not planning on hiring, then go to email with me, to live it open for paying customers, because my clients were getting used to just chatting without hire. So I am by no means a scammer...and barely if ever ask for a rating. So dont get me twisted, cause I am not going to lie and hold you up about what I do, and how I do it.
So go ahead and compare transcripts, etc, share your bad experiences, but in this case there is a "motive behind" everything. Its all drama, like a bunch of females at an office. 3 of the screen names on weakguyonkasamaba are Janice....and again I havent been 100%, which usually comes from clients wanting to know the unthinkable, no I cannot tell you if you will get a job and then get fired, no I cannot tell you what type of job you will get? You would know what you are qualified to do, No I cannot tell you if how many times such and such cheated, timeframes are also pretty tough, But some of the stuff would be impossible to pinpoint. Yesterday I have a client, which read this stuff about me. Before she gave me anything, I asked for her first name only, no last name, no dob, I told her where she was, her zodiac sign, her age, full description of herself and she was over the water, and btw she didnt have dark hair....Just to prove what I am about, I gave her the option to express what she liked....... no force and she continued to hired. Sometimes I may read you to the "T" but can be off with the situation. Sometimes I can be accurate on it all, but off with a few other things, you just never know depending on the person, if I am knowing you long enough my precog is very strong, as in this case I knew that my sun could be shattered with darkeness from Jh that is known to be a bit hard on readers that have wronged her.
I wasnt fearful because I thought she would be there for me as I am for her. I thin I am more disappointed with her then anything, because 'Janice" is an acception she has serious issues, not a bad woman at all. She has let a man tear her down, and now she is coming back in pure evil to others. : Janice if he was there with you now, would you be spending your time posting, what you say is to be helping clients to recognize fakes, well honey, no you are not, you are manipilating them, you are making a big mess of drama, but half the clients will come back to Lp and most are still there.....Aside from that you tried registering with another account yourself, so if they are so horrible why are you still spending your money there??

Anyhow I end it here for myself, you can say what you want to say I am going to keep helping my clients, keep loving them, keep being who I am. I cannot change the past, but I can surely change what is "now". Good luck to you all.
By the way somethings are going to end......... With all the posting etc, mark my word, too many companies etc are being sabotaged by "mess" someone taking things person" Psychic sites are not by force, they are my choice, if you come there you came there because you wanted to, because you made the choice. SO dont get calling scammed, they are all fakes, honey until you get inside the book dont go off what you hear. Go off what you feel yourself, as long as you hear things about people you will begin to plant that thought in your mind. What may be good for one may not be good for another. I may have something good to tell you and the next may have something to tell you is not so good.

Anyhow I just hope you all find happiness and peace within yourself and others.
Forgive and move on.
What is strange though many of those you are targeting have the highest repeat traffic and clients???Makes you wonder....anyway I am not the one to know and dont want to.


Blessings,

And btw Jh, you dont know anything about me I work the midnite shift so it is very convenient to have my laptop at work with me...which btw many of my clients, trusted clients know......
Do you watch me or something?...dont answer I know......
I love you all, (hugs)
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Is this a full time job for some of you?

AUTHOR: Shining Love - (U.S.A.)

Firstly, I know for a fact that 2 of above are actual clients of mines.
If you check my ratings, most of my clients are repeat, news ones does not rate me. I have one that only rates after prediction which is short term comes to pass.
So what I use the same wording, not all readings are the same, connected to the same nature is very unlikely, some of the people in question dont return love, some do. As for you JH "guac" I have never lead you wrong, was always caring and gave you truth you cannot sit here and make a bad reputation for me, because of the leader instilling the "negative seed which she is doing, again until you can say I made up a fairy tale, took your money, etc. As for long hours, I say logged on when I am sleep, when I am at work, I take the laptop around with me all the time.
I work at a Mental Institution, and I advocate for young woman at a local center in my hometown, I do have a 9-5, do I need my check stubs to prove it, its not your business or anyone elses what I do how I do it...All you need to figure out is Why are you 2 after me, I just did a reading with Janice last week, and Jh you sent me the most delightful email just the other day, you two dont rate right away and have left very pure and natural ratings.... WIth the 4 transcripts that were shared, I myself think that is purely ignorant, because now all will know your business, I could sit here and post something, emails, I have from Janice, and transcripts etc. But I am not going that low. This two will be my final post, because I will no longer look at this page. I have warned the readers about 2 clients I know for sure that are sharing transcripts and information about us all.
If you all had a life and moved on why are you still posting, why are you all so co-dependant on readers, I dont even advise my clients to visit me more then 1-2 a month, I have several that can vouche for that. And for the ones that are skeptics cause my accuracy is high, I have certifed documents, from when I was 18 years old showing my "natural gift: of clairvoyancy I can see things alot clearer at times, but very strong and clear at others. I will even stop my clients, before they tell me too much....I of course wont share any personal transcripts with my clients info, But its has been proven without any info, including dob I am able to connect directl with that person. For you Janice you didnt receive that love you wanted as a child, you were always hard on yourself. You are going through what you call it a "compulsive behavior disorder" you find peace from tearing down readers that you had have. I dont scam sweety, with just 2 or 3 clients I am doing ok, I dont need to attract and sell false hope. I have about hmmm 6 bad ratings, a couple that were not from inaccruacy.... I am not perfect, I have found with my time here On Lp that most clients jump from reader to reader, so of course you will be confused, of course you will want to confirm what the reader before told you, of course you will be hurt when nothing happens. I like to focus on the now. But you see psychics are not a sport, but I see that most clients use it as a hobby. And for most its smoothes them to satisfy the thought, and then guess what It becomes of addiction, you find yourself co-dependant. I had a client one that I know for sure is posting bad things about me....She questioned how I got my information, while after doing so,I said ok, let me supply you with details, and that I did....So then I guess she probably assumed I was sharing info, which at LP is not acceptable, you would have to be living in the same home for that sorry. I dont operate that way. I dont tell you what you want to hear, or what I feel you want to hear. And I am even more hurt with "guac" Because she was a very trusted client of mines, and was very understanding and warming, she had been scorned, cause yes she was sold alot of false hope, I told her what needed to be done, and how to get there...I didnt say what would happen just like that, and I use that term for all my clients :dont expect too much too soon, and yes usually the person in questions has clutter around them, stress etc, its common highly common, not all my cliients show that. In a sense I am Thankful this thread was started, because it will show those with the lack of faith and if you are not a believer in what one says then push on. I myself dont worry about what one says because you would only make me more noticable and people will want to try for themselves, and I have had that in the last month and they are all repeat.
If you look at my ratings they are 2-3 months of repeat clients. WHich I hold my clients in high regards, very much so. Jh how can you expect a pure and peaceful future to arise, if you are engaging in "negative games" I know you were hurt, we discussed this remember? But I was there for you, and I was sincere, I was real not being fake, I lowered the rate for you, I would send you emails just to check in and not to invite you for a new reading, etc I dont even rush my clients to hire.
If anyone seen my previous profile, if its still there, I put that if you are not planning on hiring, then go to email with me, to live it open for paying customers, because my clients were getting used to just chatting without hire. So I am by no means a scammer...and barely if ever ask for a rating. So dont get me twisted, cause I am not going to lie and hold you up about what I do, and how I do it.
So go ahead and compare transcripts, etc, share your bad experiences, but in this case there is a "motive behind" everything. Its all drama, like a bunch of females at an office. 3 of the screen names on weakguyonkasamaba are Janice....and again I havent been 100%, which usually comes from clients wanting to know the unthinkable, no I cannot tell you if you will get a job and then get fired, no I cannot tell you what type of job you will get? You would know what you are qualified to do, No I cannot tell you if how many times such and such cheated, timeframes are also pretty tough, But some of the stuff would be impossible to pinpoint. Yesterday I have a client, which read this stuff about me. Before she gave me anything, I asked for her first name only, no last name, no dob, I told her where she was, her zodiac sign, her age, full description of herself and she was over the water, and btw she didnt have dark hair....Just to prove what I am about, I gave her the option to express what she liked....... no force and she continued to hired. Sometimes I may read you to the "T" but can be off with the situation. Sometimes I can be accurate on it all, but off with a few other things, you just never know depending on the person, if I am knowing you long enough my precog is very strong, as in this case I knew that my sun could be shattered with darkeness from Jh that is known to be a bit hard on readers that have wronged her.
I wasnt fearful because I thought she would be there for me as I am for her. I thin I am more disappointed with her then anything, because 'Janice" is an acception she has serious issues, not a bad woman at all. She has let a man tear her down, and now she is coming back in pure evil to others. : Janice if he was there with you now, would you be spending your time posting, what you say is to be helping clients to recognize fakes, well honey, no you are not, you are manipilating them, you are making a big mess of drama, but half the clients will come back to Lp and most are still there.....Aside from that you tried registering with another account yourself, so if they are so horrible why are you still spending your money there??

Anyhow I end it here for myself, you can say what you want to say I am going to keep helping my clients, keep loving them, keep being who I am. I cannot change the past, but I can surely change what is "now". Good luck to you all.
By the way somethings are going to end......... With all the posting etc, mark my word, too many companies etc are being sabotaged by "mess" someone taking things person" Psychic sites are not by force, they are my choice, if you come there you came there because you wanted to, because you made the choice. SO dont get calling scammed, they are all fakes, honey until you get inside the book dont go off what you hear. Go off what you feel yourself, as long as you hear things about people you will begin to plant that thought in your mind. What may be good for one may not be good for another. I may have something good to tell you and the next may have something to tell you is not so good.

Anyhow I just hope you all find happiness and peace within yourself and others.
Forgive and move on.
What is strange though many of those you are targeting have the highest repeat traffic and clients???Makes you wonder....anyway I am not the one to know and dont want to.


Blessings,

And btw Jh, you dont know anything about me I work the midnite shift so it is very convenient to have my laptop at work with me...which btw many of my clients, trusted clients know......
Do you watch me or something?...dont answer I know......
I love you all, (hugs)
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#45 UPDATE Employee

Is this a full time job for some of you?

AUTHOR: Shining Love - (U.S.A.)

Firstly, I know for a fact that 2 of above are actual clients of mines.
If you check my ratings, most of my clients are repeat, news ones does not rate me. I have one that only rates after prediction which is short term comes to pass.
So what I use the same wording, not all readings are the same, connected to the same nature is very unlikely, some of the people in question dont return love, some do. As for you JH "guac" I have never lead you wrong, was always caring and gave you truth you cannot sit here and make a bad reputation for me, because of the leader instilling the "negative seed which she is doing, again until you can say I made up a fairy tale, took your money, etc. As for long hours, I say logged on when I am sleep, when I am at work, I take the laptop around with me all the time.
I work at a Mental Institution, and I advocate for young woman at a local center in my hometown, I do have a 9-5, do I need my check stubs to prove it, its not your business or anyone elses what I do how I do it...All you need to figure out is Why are you 2 after me, I just did a reading with Janice last week, and Jh you sent me the most delightful email just the other day, you two dont rate right away and have left very pure and natural ratings.... WIth the 4 transcripts that were shared, I myself think that is purely ignorant, because now all will know your business, I could sit here and post something, emails, I have from Janice, and transcripts etc. But I am not going that low. This two will be my final post, because I will no longer look at this page. I have warned the readers about 2 clients I know for sure that are sharing transcripts and information about us all.
If you all had a life and moved on why are you still posting, why are you all so co-dependant on readers, I dont even advise my clients to visit me more then 1-2 a month, I have several that can vouche for that. And for the ones that are skeptics cause my accuracy is high, I have certifed documents, from when I was 18 years old showing my "natural gift: of clairvoyancy I can see things alot clearer at times, but very strong and clear at others. I will even stop my clients, before they tell me too much....I of course wont share any personal transcripts with my clients info, But its has been proven without any info, including dob I am able to connect directl with that person. For you Janice you didnt receive that love you wanted as a child, you were always hard on yourself. You are going through what you call it a "compulsive behavior disorder" you find peace from tearing down readers that you had have. I dont scam sweety, with just 2 or 3 clients I am doing ok, I dont need to attract and sell false hope. I have about hmmm 6 bad ratings, a couple that were not from inaccruacy.... I am not perfect, I have found with my time here On Lp that most clients jump from reader to reader, so of course you will be confused, of course you will want to confirm what the reader before told you, of course you will be hurt when nothing happens. I like to focus on the now. But you see psychics are not a sport, but I see that most clients use it as a hobby. And for most its smoothes them to satisfy the thought, and then guess what It becomes of addiction, you find yourself co-dependant. I had a client one that I know for sure is posting bad things about me....She questioned how I got my information, while after doing so,I said ok, let me supply you with details, and that I did....So then I guess she probably assumed I was sharing info, which at LP is not acceptable, you would have to be living in the same home for that sorry. I dont operate that way. I dont tell you what you want to hear, or what I feel you want to hear. And I am even more hurt with "guac" Because she was a very trusted client of mines, and was very understanding and warming, she had been scorned, cause yes she was sold alot of false hope, I told her what needed to be done, and how to get there...I didnt say what would happen just like that, and I use that term for all my clients :dont expect too much too soon, and yes usually the person in questions has clutter around them, stress etc, its common highly common, not all my cliients show that. In a sense I am Thankful this thread was started, because it will show those with the lack of faith and if you are not a believer in what one says then push on. I myself dont worry about what one says because you would only make me more noticable and people will want to try for themselves, and I have had that in the last month and they are all repeat.
If you look at my ratings they are 2-3 months of repeat clients. WHich I hold my clients in high regards, very much so. Jh how can you expect a pure and peaceful future to arise, if you are engaging in "negative games" I know you were hurt, we discussed this remember? But I was there for you, and I was sincere, I was real not being fake, I lowered the rate for you, I would send you emails just to check in and not to invite you for a new reading, etc I dont even rush my clients to hire.
If anyone seen my previous profile, if its still there, I put that if you are not planning on hiring, then go to email with me, to live it open for paying customers, because my clients were getting used to just chatting without hire. So I am by no means a scammer...and barely if ever ask for a rating. So dont get me twisted, cause I am not going to lie and hold you up about what I do, and how I do it.
So go ahead and compare transcripts, etc, share your bad experiences, but in this case there is a "motive behind" everything. Its all drama, like a bunch of females at an office. 3 of the screen names on weakguyonkasamaba are Janice....and again I havent been 100%, which usually comes from clients wanting to know the unthinkable, no I cannot tell you if you will get a job and then get fired, no I cannot tell you what type of job you will get? You would know what you are qualified to do, No I cannot tell you if how many times such and such cheated, timeframes are also pretty tough, But some of the stuff would be impossible to pinpoint. Yesterday I have a client, which read this stuff about me. Before she gave me anything, I asked for her first name only, no last name, no dob, I told her where she was, her zodiac sign, her age, full description of herself and she was over the water, and btw she didnt have dark hair....Just to prove what I am about, I gave her the option to express what she liked....... no force and she continued to hired. Sometimes I may read you to the "T" but can be off with the situation. Sometimes I can be accurate on it all, but off with a few other things, you just never know depending on the person, if I am knowing you long enough my precog is very strong, as in this case I knew that my sun could be shattered with darkeness from Jh that is known to be a bit hard on readers that have wronged her.
I wasnt fearful because I thought she would be there for me as I am for her. I thin I am more disappointed with her then anything, because 'Janice" is an acception she has serious issues, not a bad woman at all. She has let a man tear her down, and now she is coming back in pure evil to others. : Janice if he was there with you now, would you be spending your time posting, what you say is to be helping clients to recognize fakes, well honey, no you are not, you are manipilating them, you are making a big mess of drama, but half the clients will come back to Lp and most are still there.....Aside from that you tried registering with another account yourself, so if they are so horrible why are you still spending your money there??

Anyhow I end it here for myself, you can say what you want to say I am going to keep helping my clients, keep loving them, keep being who I am. I cannot change the past, but I can surely change what is "now". Good luck to you all.
By the way somethings are going to end......... With all the posting etc, mark my word, too many companies etc are being sabotaged by "mess" someone taking things person" Psychic sites are not by force, they are my choice, if you come there you came there because you wanted to, because you made the choice. SO dont get calling scammed, they are all fakes, honey until you get inside the book dont go off what you hear. Go off what you feel yourself, as long as you hear things about people you will begin to plant that thought in your mind. What may be good for one may not be good for another. I may have something good to tell you and the next may have something to tell you is not so good.

Anyhow I just hope you all find happiness and peace within yourself and others.
Forgive and move on.
What is strange though many of those you are targeting have the highest repeat traffic and clients???Makes you wonder....anyway I am not the one to know and dont want to.


Blessings,

And btw Jh, you dont know anything about me I work the midnite shift so it is very convenient to have my laptop at work with me...which btw many of my clients, trusted clients know......
Do you watch me or something?...dont answer I know......
I love you all, (hugs)
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#46 Consumer Comment

Well, well Shining Lies Liveperson ID: 761227 mental? coach-Michigan USA

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

I think the above post shows that Shining Lies seems to forget that we PAY our money for a service, she like perve Z, appears to have some sort of guru complex. She is HURTING not HELPING people and, as they say Mental coach? No counsellor would refer to a job in those terms. It is ALWAYS mental health coach/counsellor..whatever...NEVER 'mental'-you couldn't be lying on your profile now could you?

You see I did listen to you, especially the part where you said you would 'go legal'. I had my usual Sunday afternoon coffee with my best friend who is a lawyer (Attorney). I know most readers know the different national terms but Shining Lies is not the brightest spark in the engine,

Anyway, Defamation laws differ between Australia and the US. It is clear that your reference to me as signing up my dog to 'hurt clients' could be considered Defamation.

Common law now accepts statements made in groups etc as 'single publications' and is included in the same category as comments made in a newspaper.

The difference in law is that the US considers it only applies to the local area. The Australian High Court ruled that Defamation occurs anywhere it can be read.

This means I can sue you from the comfort of my own state. Liveperson is obliged to give out contact details upon the presentation of a court order.

Now you could counter sue but see I think the clients whom you ripped off would support me. I am sure we could prove that you breach client confidentiality-oh BTW-that confidentiality in law extends until I am dead (sorry I don't see that happening anytime soon (although I am sure you and the others are putting a million curses on me...lol).

I also have an email exchange between Liveperson and myself in which I informed them that I had signed up my dog for one purpose: To prove that they did not check the credentials of counsellors. This was dated months ago. Of course they banned me but that is a separate issue.

Oh and quite a few clients whom you ripped off would be happy to provide copies of the email that I sent them when I wrote up the case study on the dog telling them I did it for one purpose and one purpose only: To prove that Liveperson does not check credentials of counsellors.

Then of course there are the derogatory statements you made in the experts forum about clients and also some outright lies than be proven. This would, as my friend tells me, "show the character of the defendant".

You really are stupid. I actually was NOT the person who gathered the transcripts together and analysed them.

I am actually quite afraid of naming anyone who is not a fraud because unlike you, I DON'T hurt people. The problem with being 'up yourself', as we say Downunder is that you make up lies that are so stupid that your true nature is revealed.

This is my last statement on the subject because the members have told me to let go and get back to work and they are right and I respect them for telling me to get over it.

I will advise you to keep away from us and keep your big stupid mouth shut about clients. I WILL find out. I WILL put it on here and I WILL sue you for defamation and win. The statute of limitations in this country is three years.

In all the cases that my friend looked up this afternoon the US facilitated disclosure of the defendant and upheld the decision of the Australian courts.

I am seriously considering taking legal action against you for Defamation and then distributing the money to the clients that you ripped off. I don't have the time or the energy right now but in a few months things will change.

Nothing can break this client group because some of them have been with me for over a year and trust me to produce the results. They may tell me to move on and get back to work but they trust the work will be done. It is almost finished and I am putting measures into the group so that this sort of thing does not happen again.

I am not closing the group. I am putting constraints on myself because people like you are despicable. You were wrong about my childhood. I was always in brawls but it was always with the bullies and my parents always supported me on that.

You utterly astound me. You lie to clients, breach confidentiality and then say refer to us as 'they' who should be grateful and kept in their place i.e. out of the ivory tower.

I am warning you Shining Lies, you hurt people and I advise you to get back in your box and stay there or I will come after you legally and I NEVER give up.

Don't believe me? Go legal' and check it out. Meanwhile I am going to shoot a few more hostages-that always takes away the anger.

Disclaimer: The statement on 'shooting hostages' was intended to be interpreted figuratively and was made for entertainment purposes only. The author cannot be sued for this statement.
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Jasper aka Misticalmisty on LivePerson... You crack me up. What a hypocrite and moneygrubbing fake you are!

AUTHOR: Iris - (U.S.A.)

This is for Jasper, or as you now advertise yourself as Misticalmisty...

I love you how run here to advertise your services. You have broken many of these guidelines over the years, and now dare to cite them as an indictment of my behavior? LOL.

Do you honestly think I care if my expert account is gone? First of all, since LivePerson took over, the site went from lousy to unbearable. Traffic came to a screeching halt. I have spent the last months doing hundreds of free readings, telling clients to STOP using the site.

I have seen transcripts of other clients and discovered that I was conned there as well. I first went there as a client, in pain, seeking answers, hope, insight. All I got was bullshit. Predictions never came to pass. All the readers gave me generalities.

They'd ask me to tell them enough information first, wanting details from me and then phrased their statements in vague ways so they could apply to numerous situations.

"I pick up on some distance here."
"He is going through a tough time."
"He's afraid of his feelings."
"He's confused."
"There is interference from someone."

Yeah fake psychics, it's called cold readings and fishing!

Jasper, you regularly call me a very dark person. That reaffirms for me that you're not psychic and can't even accurately pick up anything about me. In fact, anyone who tries to SAVE people from being scammed is anything but dark!

Yes, I was banned from the forums for speaking up, warning people about what was coming at the site. Everyone said I was wrong. Now on the forums I see that everyone is complaining about exactly what I said MONTHS AGO! LOL... Seems I'm the only one who can make accurate predictions.

I signed up on the site as ab expert to give people the TRUTH. I knew firsthand that the readers are all fake. I joined to give people a dose of reality, and get them to stop hanging onto delusions of reunions with ex lovers who had moved on.

Show respect for the community? LOL... I'm not part of that community. I would rather show respect for the lost souls who are ripped off when their self-esteem is at its lowest, when they are afraid, sad, despondent and lonely. I have no respect
for con artists! I have no respect for a website that profits from ripping people off.

It's interesting that you've cut-and-pasted the LivePerson comments. They say that "negative publicity... discourages new clients from becoming paying customers." The fact, Jasper, is that the TRUTH will hopefully prevent people from becoming victims of the site! If that translate into the site not making money, so be it.

You think the site cares about a "fair environment that benefits all of [our] members?" Get your head out of the sand. The executives at LP only care about what benefits them. There is nothing "fair" about how they run that site, or how they treat the experts or the paying customers.

When paying customers write honest, negative feedback, LP deletes or edits it! So the public doesn't really see when predictions don't come true. And clients are afraid to say the truth, because they're then blocked!

You then quote that "information obtained while communicating with clients on LivePerson should be regarded as confidential and must never be shared with anyone else including other experts."

LOL... Then explain to me how all of you regularly share information on the Forums? Don't deny it. I still read them. I was also in KU, and saw the information shared there! I also know that some experts are friends offsite and share information that way as well.

"Remember that your clients trust you. When you give advice, do so with care and stick to what you know. When something is outside your field of expertise, make sure your client is aware of it."

The above paragraph is a joke. Everything is outside your field of expertise, because none of you are psychics! You all have ridiculous claims of credentials. I rolled on the floor laughing hysterically the first time I read Fruno's profile. I mean, come on, if this "guy" really has that background, how does he have time to wear a headband and be on the website? LMAO.

"Don't misrepresent yourself- Be truthful in your profile and within sessions. Everything you write in your profile must be accurate and verifiable. That includes your gender, your degrees and qualifications, and the photo you use. It's ok to upload a graphic instead of a personal photo (although it's not recommended here's why), but if you do choose to use a personal photo, it must be a photo of YOU. The use of stock photos or photos of other people is not allowed."

Ditto on the laughter with the paragraph above. Most of the photos are fakes. Heck, YOU (Jasper) had a fake photo for years! When you were Jasper13f, you had some blonde model that was/is not you! So you're essentially the proverbial pot calling the kettle black with your post.

Many of the "male" psychics are really females. Do you honestly claim that Ru the Sorcerer is an ancient Chinese guy? I didn't think they had DSL in the Tibetan mountains! And how does LP keep a straight face with that photo? Does LP honestly claim that photo meets their guidelines? LP doesn't enforce their rules because that would eliminate their top moneymakers. If they eliminated the frauds, they'd be out of business.


"Don't keep multiple accounts in the same cluster."

I remember one psychic claiming she had 3 computers going at one time with 3 different psychic identities. Again, LP is full of shit.


"Don't manipulate ratings- LivePerson's ratings system is set up to reflect the clients' feelings regarding a session and we take any attempt to manipulate it very seriously. By rating yourself or engaging in other ratings manipulation practices, you compromise your integrity as well as that of LivePerson."

No, don't manipulate ratings. The only people allowed to manipulate ratings are the LP staff. LOL

But Jasper, you really take the cake at the end of your post when you advertise your price! People see through you. You've changed your name again. Hmmm....

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As a side note to Shining Love, who attacked Janice as "mentally ill."

You and I are not qualified to assess whether or not that is true. I do agree that Janice's posts can ramble and lose focus. She does get repetitive, but that is not the sign of an unstable mind... that is the sign of someone with ADD, unable to organize their thoughts. She also allows her emotion to take over and that infiltrates her posts. But I have seen her voluminous (and yes, disorganized) document. It is for real. She HAS compiled enough evidence to shut LP down.

Regarding her dog. LOL... She is not delusional. She is not claiming that Jake is a doctor! LOL... Shining Love, you clearly are not comprehending what that's about. She was able to create an 'expert profile' under the DOCTOR category, with her dog as the expert! She did this to demonstrate that LP has no screening whatsoever when it comes to credentials.

LP is in violation of state and federal laws. It engages in false advertising. It cannot hide behind its disclaimers.

I am demanding a full refund of all the monies I spent their as a client, along with all of the money they took from me as an expert. Upon receipt, I will donate 100% of it to a charity because it's blood money. But I'll be damned if they are allowed to continue ripping people off!

So Jasper, if that makes me a dark person, so be it.
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#48 Consumer Comment

One thing I don't understand

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

Shining Lies said in her post on the experts' forum that 'they' (clients) shouldn't be allowed in THERE with the almighty experts. Actually I better use directs quotes because my judgement may be a little clouded on this one:

"this client created a expert account and read the forum, now I know this because no client would know that its possible for us to google them and see how they rated, or they are in fact abusers. Then a past client of mines, came after me after I was extremely nice to her, First name is a J last time rhymes with Huffy.... I just dont know what to say, not only did this person make up all these allegations, this person created 2-3 accounts and posts things as if she is a past client. I am not bothered by this because I stand my ground on what I do, but what does saddened me is that, some of these clients are those you put so much energy into helping..... They said some pretty foul stuff about many of us, I really dont involve myself in drama, but I felt this was needed, we in a sense have to stick together on certain things, I am sure the future holds better privacy for us, where a client just cannot come in here that easy, to sabotage us. I posted one thing and I leave it as that, this people post things like its a hobby".

This person had two accounts on the group. How do I know well, she used one account to IM me and one to post. It is not difficult to work that out. Actually, maybe she has three-Sheena_delta83, helpinghands83 and the one that was registered on the group from May, abiglama2. Her first lie was I was worried about you. Her second lie was one of her clients told her about the discussions.( I can see the email addresses...this is not difficult to work out).

It is common knowledge among the group members that austbadboy is me. I wrote the rationale for the group on the front page. Some of the messages call me Janice. I haven't hidden that fact. Shining love was getting featured messages or whatever they are called. She knew I said I wanted to keep out of it and she tried to manipulate me to can it.
I am not 33 members of the group...lol..we have almost 50 in the group (minus two accounts that Shining Lies had going) and I do have a job ...errr yes I can prove that. But gee it is funny that Shining Lies, according to the group members, is online 24/7 yet purports to have a 9-5 job AND run her own business.

This women doesn't think she has a God-given talent she thinks she is God...lol..

I believe in the gifts. I KNOW that there are some legitimate experts. I do listen to what people say (even though it may appear that I do not). Someone said a while back that the real experts are to be found on the back pages. I have tried a few, not that many actually because the issue is not that psychics are frauds, I do not and never have believed that because I have known some to be correct and many to be honest.

I may have tried 5 or 6 lesser known experts over the past year. One is a fraud, Shining Lies, one is just nuts, and three were legitimate. One I cannot really count because I didn't hire him. I changed the spelling of my name to a version that does not indicate gender and when I said I worked in clinical research he assumed I was a man. To be fair he gave me connection time but when he kept insisting that this woman had her eye on me and I secretly wanted her I couldn't stop laughing enough to type. There are not a lot of things in life I am sure about but THAT is one of them. I like women immensely but I am straight.

Anyway, the point is why is it that no psychic has EVER picked up that I am evil and angry until I confront them.

I would never obviously 'confront' those who were not scammers (even if their predictions didn't pan out-and these were the ones who said from the start nothing is concrete etc)
IF THEY ARE SO PSYCHIC WHY DO THEY NOT TELL ME I AM EVIL AND ANGRY AT THE BEGINNING? IT COULDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE TIMING-I.E. AFTER I STOP PAYING THEM?

The thing is that THIS occurred before I got myself into all of this. When I was a client and I realised I had been conned and confronted the regular ones and suddenly they shift from calling me 'hon' to calling me 'evil' and using expressions' like you have so much hate in your heart'. I never heart that while I was paying them.

That has NEVER happened with legitimate experts. It is interesting but I get to know the legitimate ones after they have left. As I am completely banned there is no reason to prevent legitimate experts from talking with us but I bet the company would find an excuse.

I'll tell you what, I have had some fiery discussions with Iris but she is honest, calls a spade a spade and has the guts to say what SHE believes in and STILL supports us and I support her even though we differ on some issues.

I was warned about Shining Lies by a former client of hers awhile back. I respect this person very much. I have explained to her why this situation was difficult for me and she understands.
The legitimate experts need a group if only to shut up idiots like her. So much damage, not only to the hurt clients but it reflects on the experts because she is vicious and stupid. Even those who hate me would have trouble believing I used Liveperson to set my fluff ball of a dog on clients over the internet. The badly needed rain has stopped and it is Sunday afternoon so I am going to take Dr Jake out to the shopping centre because all the little ones like to touch his fur.

I think the above post shows that Shining Lies seems to forget that we PAY our money for a service, she like perve Z, appears to have some sort of guru complex. She is HURTING not HELPING people and, as they say in the UK "has ideas above her station".
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#49 Consumer Comment

One thing I don't understand

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

Shining Lies said in her post on the experts' forum that 'they' (clients) shouldn't be allowed in THERE with the almighty experts. Actually I better use directs quotes because my judgement may be a little clouded on this one:

"this client created a expert account and read the forum, now I know this because no client would know that its possible for us to google them and see how they rated, or they are in fact abusers. Then a past client of mines, came after me after I was extremely nice to her, First name is a J last time rhymes with Huffy.... I just dont know what to say, not only did this person make up all these allegations, this person created 2-3 accounts and posts things as if she is a past client. I am not bothered by this because I stand my ground on what I do, but what does saddened me is that, some of these clients are those you put so much energy into helping..... They said some pretty foul stuff about many of us, I really dont involve myself in drama, but I felt this was needed, we in a sense have to stick together on certain things, I am sure the future holds better privacy for us, where a client just cannot come in here that easy, to sabotage us. I posted one thing and I leave it as that, this people post things like its a hobby".

This person had two accounts on the group. How do I know well, she used one account to IM me and one to post. It is not difficult to work that out. Actually, maybe she has three-Sheena_delta83, helpinghands83 and the one that was registered on the group from May, abiglama2. Her first lie was I was worried about you. Her second lie was one of her clients told her about the discussions.( I can see the email addresses...this is not difficult to work out).

It is common knowledge among the group members that austbadboy is me. I wrote the rationale for the group on the front page. Some of the messages call me Janice. I haven't hidden that fact. Shining love was getting featured messages or whatever they are called. She knew I said I wanted to keep out of it and she tried to manipulate me to can it.
I am not 33 members of the group...lol..we have almost 50 in the group (minus two accounts that Shining Lies had going) and I do have a job ...errr yes I can prove that. But gee it is funny that Shining Lies, according to the group members, is online 24/7 yet purports to have a 9-5 job AND run her own business.

This women doesn't think she has a God-given talent she thinks she is God...lol..

I believe in the gifts. I KNOW that there are some legitimate experts. I do listen to what people say (even though it may appear that I do not). Someone said a while back that the real experts are to be found on the back pages. I have tried a few, not that many actually because the issue is not that psychics are frauds, I do not and never have believed that because I have known some to be correct and many to be honest.

I may have tried 5 or 6 lesser known experts over the past year. One is a fraud, Shining Lies, one is just nuts, and three were legitimate. One I cannot really count because I didn't hire him. I changed the spelling of my name to a version that does not indicate gender and when I said I worked in clinical research he assumed I was a man. To be fair he gave me connection time but when he kept insisting that this woman had her eye on me and I secretly wanted her I couldn't stop laughing enough to type. There are not a lot of things in life I am sure about but THAT is one of them. I like women immensely but I am straight.

Anyway, the point is why is it that no psychic has EVER picked up that I am evil and angry until I confront them.

I would never obviously 'confront' those who were not scammers (even if their predictions didn't pan out-and these were the ones who said from the start nothing is concrete etc)
IF THEY ARE SO PSYCHIC WHY DO THEY NOT TELL ME I AM EVIL AND ANGRY AT THE BEGINNING? IT COULDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE TIMING-I.E. AFTER I STOP PAYING THEM?

The thing is that THIS occurred before I got myself into all of this. When I was a client and I realised I had been conned and confronted the regular ones and suddenly they shift from calling me 'hon' to calling me 'evil' and using expressions' like you have so much hate in your heart'. I never heart that while I was paying them.

That has NEVER happened with legitimate experts. It is interesting but I get to know the legitimate ones after they have left. As I am completely banned there is no reason to prevent legitimate experts from talking with us but I bet the company would find an excuse.

I'll tell you what, I have had some fiery discussions with Iris but she is honest, calls a spade a spade and has the guts to say what SHE believes in and STILL supports us and I support her even though we differ on some issues.

I was warned about Shining Lies by a former client of hers awhile back. I respect this person very much. I have explained to her why this situation was difficult for me and she understands.
The legitimate experts need a group if only to shut up idiots like her. So much damage, not only to the hurt clients but it reflects on the experts because she is vicious and stupid. Even those who hate me would have trouble believing I used Liveperson to set my fluff ball of a dog on clients over the internet. The badly needed rain has stopped and it is Sunday afternoon so I am going to take Dr Jake out to the shopping centre because all the little ones like to touch his fur.

I think the above post shows that Shining Lies seems to forget that we PAY our money for a service, she like perve Z, appears to have some sort of guru complex. She is HURTING not HELPING people and, as they say in the UK "has ideas above her station".
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#50 Consumer Comment

BTW-the whole history is there - for all to read

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

The entire history is on the groups messages. I actually supported her intially but i was proven wrong.

Any doubters, especially her clients who are wondering can go to the group, subsrcibe, read what is ther, copy what is there, unsubscribe without any need for permission or whatever.

You will see that it actually wasn't me. Now the reason I say this is not because I care but because it shows what a liar and a fraud she is.

The question is do you trust someone who twists information around. I told her why I set my dog up as an expert-i.e. to prove that Liveperson do not check credentials as they advertise.

In the first post the stupid woman says I am going to have a breakdwon because I think my dog is a doctor.

Then she says I set my dog up to hurt clients and I am sick. Apart fromm the fact it is two reduclous, it is two separate lies...

It is so illogical...duhhh ...and she is giving TWO lies for one action-which is it?

Think about it, irrespective of what anyone thinks about me, I actually was not involved in this, yet she twists things around publically to try and hurt me.

SO THE QUESTION IS WHAT IF YOU ARE ONE OF HER CLIENTS. CAN YOU TRUST SOMEONE LIKE THAT?

CAN YOU TRUST SOMEONE WHO TWISTS FACTS AND PUTS THEM IN AN OPEN FORUM?

I REALLY DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS ONE. FOR ONCE I AM NOT GUILTY

I AM GUILTY OF A LOT, MOST OF WHICH I HAVE COPPED TO AND THE OTHER STUFF I WILL, BUT IT IS NOTHING TO DO WITH PSYCHICS....

I NEED TO GET ACROSS THAT I ACTUALLY WOULD COP TO IT BUT CLIENTS ARE TRUSTING THIS WOMAN WHO IS SO STUPID SHE CANNOT READ MESSAGE THREADS

THE WHOLE STORY IS IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN ON THE GROUP AND THE ONLY POST I PUT UP BEFORE PROOF WAS SENT TO ME WAS I AM NOT GETTING INVOLVED IN THIS I AM TIRED AND I HAVE WORK TO DO.

IMAGINE IF IT IS YOU AND SHE TURNS ON YOU AND DECIDES TO TAKE WHAT YOU HAVE TOLD HER AND SPREAD IT OVER THE INTERNET?

THE WOMAN IS NOT RIGHT IN THE HEAD-READ THE POSTS -I WAS NOT GUILTY, YET SHE IS MOUTHING OFF IN LIVEPERSON...SHE IS STUPID--SHE IS NOT RIGHT IN THE HEAD

I AM ASTOUNDED, IT IS THERE IN BLACK AND WHITE FOR ALL TO SEE-THIS WOMAN IS ON SOME TRIP SOMEWHERE..LIKE SHE IS GOD'S GIFT TO THE WORLD YET SHE IS HAPPY TO SPREAD MALICOUS LIES ABOUT SOMEONE WHO, FOR ONCE, AND PROBABLY JUST THIS ONCE, WAS ACTUALLY NOT GUILTY.

WE HAVE ALL TOLD HER TO READ THE MESSAGES

THEN WE FIND OUT SHE IS SO STUPID SHE IS POSTING INSIDE LIVEPERSON AND MIXING UP ROR WITH THE GROUP

AS A CLIENT CAN YOU TRUST SOMEONe THAT STUPID WITH YOUR PRIVATE AFFAIRS?

IT COULD BE YOU ALL OVER HERE NEXT WEEK. SHE IS VINDICTIVE BUT SHE IS NOT VERY SMART AND THAT IS A REAL WORRY

DO YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT CHANCE?
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#51 Consumer Comment

Well Shining Lies is not the brightest spark in the engine-

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

She still blames me but get this. I deleted her TWO emails from the group because our one rule is no abuse and making up lies about someone is abuse.

The specific lie was: I applied for my dog to be an expert because I wanted to hurt clients. For crying out load, even the people that hate me can see that is too STUPID to be true.

How on earth am I going to use my dog to hurt clients on the internet? His teeth ain't that big.

I mean no-one believes it but it is abusive.

Now she has written on the Livperson expert form, "My fellow experts, I have been wronged by people jealous of my talents..."..some..whatever..lies

Err no, you were outed because you give the same readings to four clients. This is fraud.

You are making me the scapegoat but you are so dim, stupid, lacking in brains, whatever that you can't see the lies are so outrageous, are on the group for all to read and you think you can deny it.

See she doesn't know the difference between here and the group....She didn't get much support though one reply is all.

Actually, you know what, I can get her for defamation. Case law states that chat groups are considered places in which such actions are now recognised by the courts.

Liveperson are obliged to produce expert details to the courts. I actually don't work with clients but if I was setting up to hurt them that could harm my job.

Anyone who met my dog would know there is not a chance in hell he would hurt someone. He lets kids ride on his back.

Shining Lies wake up. No one belives you are a god-fearing talented woman and if they do and want to check we are happy to help.

You are a fraud, we may not have been sure before but we are now. The best thing you could have done is quietly slip away, You are not psychic or you would have known we would not let you get away with this.

You hurt people for money. We don't like that.

We are happy to provide the proof for any clients who wish to check.

Come and see us and make up your own mind. It is now peaceful now as the evil energy has been removed .....yep that is you..Shining Lies

We deleted BOTH your logins there.
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#52 Consumer Comment

For Shining Lies

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

I just ate a whole heep of humble pie for a person I like and respect more than I can express in words and it was over you (my choice).

I was wrong and she was right.

I said you were legitimate and there was no way that I would include you anywhere near the frauds.

She and the other clients proved me wrong.

I was sad to eat humble pie not because of my ego but because it means a whole lot more hurt clients

I always follow the saying, "better 10 guilty go free than one inncocent person is hung"

Make than 9.
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#53 Consumer Comment

For Canadalove

AUTHOR: Jh - (U.S.A.)

I've gone from praising Shining to damning her because I saw with my own eyes multiple transcripts of reads she gave people. And they are ALL THE SAME! I didn't believe it, I fought it. I thought others just had some sour grapes since they got bad reads. But the transcripts are the same, and the email reach outs are the same style. It's all to build trust, seem sincere, etc. And then you get the same reads as everyone else.

I came to SL because of things written here. I was trying to go forward with a certain "path". But she seemed soooooo accurate and told me what she saw. I thought obviously she had to be telling the truth! I took advice and took some action based on what she told me. When what she told me failed she danced around it, and I, stupidly, because she seemed sooooo accurate, was okay with that. Even later when a HUGE thing was discovered that she'd never mentioned "seeing" before, I let it slide and thought she was protecting my feelings! I don't know why I allowed it other than she had the situation so dead on. But NOW, reading over the multiple transcripts I see that she was guessing basics for all of us - and since many men fit the descriptions she was using (moody, doesn't always tell the truth, etc), she was able to pull more info out.

I also see why she got a past timeframe right and some other "HOW did she know that??" things - because she said the same to others or she assumed things. In one case I realize that she made a lucky assumption with me and then right after she said it I confirmed it and gave her the background info. On the other hand, I saw in someone else's transcript a guess/assumption that she made which was NOT correct....but SL danced her way out of it by saying she'd look into it later.

This woman has dug her own grave. There are so many lies even in her rebuttal here. IF she has a 9-5 job, then why is she on LP from the very early hours of the morning till the late evening? IF she was on vacation, then why during the week she was offline from LP was she online on Bitwine all week?

I'm devastated as I thought she had real talent. But she's simply a master cold reader with a GREAT script. She's robbed people of time, hope, money and faith, yet she uses GOD and karma and all this stuff in her replies to show how spiritual she is. How low can you go?
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#54 Consumer Comment

Here's what a reading with Shining Love will say

AUTHOR: Jh - (U.S.A.)

I've read multiple transcripts from multiple people. I'm sickened in my heart. People have taken actions based on her advice and have been hurt. People have been waiting for things and doing things due to her "visions" and have been hurt.

If anyone recognizes their reads in what I'm posting here, contact me through weakguys, as I'm wondering if we can take some action.

In Shining's readings this is what you get:

The men in our lives are all:
- complicated
- don't tell the whole truth and can't look SL in the eye when you remote them
- are unhappy with their current situation
- sometimes withdraw and are cluttered emotionally right now
- are very sensitive but in a secret/private way
- have trouble with finances
- their energy comes and goes with us/they're hot and cold
- their exes are aggressive or clingy
- these men are stubborn
- the "other women" of all types have dark hair
- they know "big guys" as friends
- distance is involved with them/us/in some way
- these men have private sides to them
- these men can be moody
- they or us are thinking of a move or travel

As for us women:
- We all had troubles starting around March
- We all will have things happen in August
- Someone with a white/gray/light car will come to us or the car will play a role in something else
- Rural areas are popular for travel or events to take place
- there are 2 children around somewhere
- We know not to bank our hopes right now as our men are complicated
- We are different from what our men have known, we are better all around than their past women
- We have water signs around us or a water sign will come into our lives
- someone we want to hear from or that we don't expect to hear from will pop up unexpectedly
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#55 Consumer Comment

Not guilty this time--BUT she has shot herself in the foot bigtime-WE GOT THE PROOF

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

SHINING LIES: in the groupss is a message in which I INITIALLY SUPPORTED YOU BECAUSE THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE.

I GOT TOLD IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS BY SOMEONE WHO SUSSED YOU OUT THAT I WAS WRONG. I ATE HUMBLE PIE :)

1. FOUR OF YOUR CLIENTS GOT TOGETHER AND COMPARED TRANSCRIPTS.

2 YOU SAID A CLIENT TOLD THAT MEMBERS WERE UPSET. 2. YOU HAVE BEEN A MEMBER OF THE GROUP (WHICH IS FINE) SINCE MAY 10. YOUR MEMBERSHIP IS SET TO RECIEVE MESSAGES.

3. YOU TOLD ME LAST NIGHT THAT YOU im'D ME BECAUSE YOU WERE CONCERNED AS I WAS TIRED. IT WAS 4 OR 5 AM SO OF COURSE I WAS TIRED. I HAD BEEN WORKING ALL NIGHT BECAUSE WE HAVE TECH PROBLEMS HERE AND I WAS OFFLINE FOR TWO DAYS AND I WAS TRYING TO CATCH UP. It was obvious-you couldn't be sincere if you tried

4. YOU SAW THE DISCUSSION AND TRIED TO MANIPULATE ME INTO CANNING IT


5. YOU ARE NOW TRYING TO BLAME ME IN THE USUAL WAY THAT PEOPLE WITH MORE EVIL THAN BRAINS ARE APT TO DO: YOU TWIST THINGS. For example

6. YOU SAID IN A POST ON THE GROUP THAT THE FACT THAT I THOUGHT MY DOG WAS A DOCTOR SHOWED I WAS DERANGED. IT WAS A STING..A SET-UP

I POSTED THE FILE. READ IT YOU IDIOT.


7. I TOLD YOU IT WAS A SET-UP TO PROVE LIVEPERSON DON'T CHECK COUNSELLOR OOR PHYSCIAN CREDENTNTIAL. i POSTED THE WHOLE FILE IN THE GROUP. Di you read it or do you have some sort of problem with understanding the truth.

IT WASN'T ME: I DON'T CARE IF YOU OR ANYONE ELSE THINKS IT IS ME.

BY POSTING THIS HERE AND ON THE OTHER GROUP YOU ARE PROVING THAT YOU ARE NOT ONLY GIVING SCRIPTED READING BUT YOU ARE MANIPULATIVE AND STUPID-WITH THE EMPHASIS ON STUPID.

WE HAVE THE PROOF. THE FOUR READING WERE ALL DONE IN LIVEPERSON AND I AM NOT SURE BECAUSE I HAVEN'T SEEN THE TRANSCRIPTS BUT I THINK A NUMBER OF THEM WERE MULTIPLE READINGS AND CERTAINLY THEY WERE CONDUCTED AFTER I WAS BANNED.

SOMEONE IS PUTTING THEM ALL TOGETHER NOW AND IT AIN'T ME.


BUT IF ANY OF SHINING LOVE'S CLINETS WANT TO CHECK THEIR TRANSCRIPTS AGAINST THE ONES A CLIENT COMPLIED YOU CAN DO IT ANONYMOUSLY THROUGH THE GROUP.

OH AND A LITTLE BIRDY TOLD ME SHINING LIES TALKS ABOUT CLIENTS IN THE EXPERT FORUMS ON LIVEPERSON.

SEE THE THING ABOUT THIS ONE IS THAT THE PROOF IS THERE AND IT REALLY HONESTLY WAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ME THIS TIME....SHE GOT SPRUNG AND OF COURSE IS TRYING TO BLAME ME...

I AM USED TO IT. THE DIFFERENCE IT THIS TIME IT ACTUALLY WASN'T ME AND NOW I AM 33 MEMBERS OF THE GROUP.

YOU HAD BETTER BE CAREFUL SHINING LIES-I MEAN IT. THERE ARE A LOT OF CLIENTS THAT YOU HAVE RIPPED OFF BY GIVING THE SAME SCRIPTED READINGS.

THE CLIENTS HAVE SEEN EACHOTHERS TRANSCRIPTS AND ARE JUSTIFIABLY HURT. THEY KNOW IT WASN'T ME BECAUSE THEY DID THE RESEARCH THEMSELVES.

THEY CLIENTS ARE SMART PEOPLE AND PROTECTIVE OF THE SAFE PLACE IN THE GROUP IN WHICH THEY CAN DISCUSS THINGS.

OF ALL THE STUPID THINGS YOU HAVE DONE, BLAMING ME IS PROBABLY HE WORSE BECAUSE THEY KNOW YOU GIVE SCRIPTED READINGS.

THEY ARE ANXIOUS TO HELP OTHER PEOPLE. THE GROUP IS OPEN AND SO ANYONE WHO WANTS TO SEE IF THEIR TRANSCRIPTS COMPARE WITH THE FEW THAT THE CLIENTS HAVE ARE WELCOME TO GO AND FIND THE THREAD.

IT ACTUALLY WASN'T ME BUT WE ARE A BIT PROTECTIVE OF EACHOTHER

THE WORSE THING YOU COULD HAVE DONE FOR YOURSELF WAS TO TRY AND BLAME ME BECAUSE THE MEMBERS TELL ME THEY HAVE SEVERAL SESSIONS WITH YOU ALL ON LIVEPERSON AND THEY ARE EXACTLY THE SAME.

SEE THEY ARE HURT AND ANGRY AND DISCUSTED WITH YOU AND BY TRYING TO SHIFT THE BLAME ON ME WHEN IT WAS SO OBVIOUSLY NOT ME-YOU ARE CASTING YOURSELF IN WORSE LIGHT IF THAT IS POSSIBLE.

WHAT YOU DON'T GET IS YOU RIPPED THEM OFF, THEY FOUND OUT

WHY ARE YOU SO STUPID? I HAVE BEEN DONE THIS ROAD WITH SO MANY FRAUDULENT PSYCHICS AND WHAT HAVE YOU.

FOR CRYING OUT LOAD THE PROOF IS OVER THERE AND THE MEMBERS WILL HELP ANYONE SEE IF THEY HAVE BEEN REIPPED OF BY YOU

AND THEY WILL DEFEND ME-THEY ARE WHAT IS IMPORTANT, THE CLIENTS-

DO YOU KNOW WHAT FRUSTRATES ME SO MUCH? I ACTUALLY DON'T CARE WHAT YOU SAY OR WHO YOU SAY IT TO BECAUSE I HAVE HEARD IT ALL BEFORE AND WORSE AND DIFFERNT AND LIKE I AM STILL STANDING

I JUST CAN'T HANDLE IDIOTS.

I COULD UNDERSTAND THE POTENTIAL IN PRIOR ATTEMPTS TO DAMAGE ME

BUT THE PROOF IS IN THE HANDS OF THE GROUP MEMBERS AND IF YOU KEEP PUSHING THIS, ESPECIALLY BY TRYING TO SHIFT THE BLAME ON ME, YOU WILL JUST MAKE YOURSELF LOOK STUPID AS WELL AS BENT

ANY CLIENTS ARE ALWAYS WELCOME TO POST A MESSAGE THERE ABOUT CHECKING THEIR TRANSCRIPTS AGAINST WHAT IS IN THE YAHOO GROUP

IT IS CALLED: weakguyonkasamba

THE SIMILILARITIES ARE POSTED IN A MESSAGE. IF ANYONE IS WORRIED PLEASE CONTACT ONE OF THE MEMBERS IN THE MESSAGE STRINGS. I am happy to shoot email addresses between clients (permission obtained first).

However please look for the members who are involved in this discussion-

It ain't me - I am overloaded with other work and behind because of wireless probs-

I actually woke up in the middle of the night to all this and i have to say they did a darn good job.

But losten to me shining lies-you hurt people and you don't even have the decency to lay low.

I am going to ask the members if they will write up the transcipts in a file in the group-remove all identification so that any clinets can subscribe download and unsubscribe

YOU BROUGHT THAT ONE ON YOURSELF!
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#56 Consumer Comment

Shining Love has just clarified what sick and evil lengths a fake scammer will go to....

AUTHOR: S - (United Kingdom)

I will not even bother to go point by point through Shining Loves desperate attempt to turn things around as if she is somehow targeted by poor souls who are in pain and suffering lol!

Fact 1 - via this site first, then yahoo, clients have been able to talk, share their readings and discuss the methods that were used in order for Shining Love to get them to have readings with her.

Fact 2 - Comparisons of transcripts - yes we have shared with each other transcripts, and it is CLEAR they are cold reads and scripted reads. ALL THE SAME, WORD FOR WORD. Our transcripts are not doctored - would not make sense to do that.

Fact 3 - Shining Loves ratings are based on NEW clients - there are no old clients over a couple of months old. She knows this is how it works....she gets rumbled after a short space of time, so she maximises her readings by keep emailing to bait clients to come in for more info. Get their money hard and fast before the penny drops sort of thing.

Shining Love has through the post she has posted, done exactly what these fake lying scumbags do. Lie, slag off clients, attempt to make themselves a victim by being "hurt" that they told the truth and the client didnt like it BLAH BLAH BLAH.

YOU ARE THE EVIL ONE SHINING LOVE. No one else. You are a fake lying cold reading scum bag, that has been rumbled and yes you are right, if it was not for Janice setting up the yahoo group, would not have been outed. So stands to reason why you would post the shit you just did about her. "she says her dog is a doctor" LOL how desperate can you get to try to undermine someone!! She has explained that on here numerous times - dog signed up as expert to PROVE that anyone or THING can be an expert. Desperate or what.

Shining Love is a fake and a liar. That is that. We have more than enough evidence of both. Some stuff that hasnt been said here for report reasons, but rest assured it will be known.
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#57 Consumer Comment

I have to diagree sorry

AUTHOR: Canadalove - (U.S.A.)

Well I got a notification today of this and I must say that I think its all bull.

How can you go from praising her to tearing Shining love down, there is no way that she did a cold reading on me I am sorry, just not possible. Divert your attention on someone who is stealing your money, she lowers her rate for me everytime I drop in, she does not sugar coat, and the things she tell me are to strong, to in detail. I have to disagree I have been to some fakes on there....
David James for example gets so many praises and he wasnt good for me at all.
Nythar wasnt even good for me, nothing she said happened, so you see not all are good for some, better for others, but you cannot accuse her of being something because of your experience, I mean JH is really tearing her down, yet she wrote stunning things that I to can agree with, on how she checks on you and not for the money come on people, it looks like a couple of psychos going nuts on readers, why do you still go there if there are all so fake, I mean get over it. I myself went through alot, but after I stumbled across a few readers that I found to be moral, and accurate, I kept them. I have become a regular of hers, so I am just saying I dont agree, I really dont and what is even more scary is that she is amazing with her predictions they are not at all of those I have been fed by top readers front page.... And above how could you tell someone that, they are a expert and why didnt they leave feedback, rather they are experts and clients, like she said we are
all human, so if that expert read with her they obviously think she is accurate, I mean come on lets be realistic, you all are basically making this a career starting groups calling people liars etc, how would you know if you cannot prove anything she said hasnt happened, and again noone is 100%, but from all of the readers


She has to top off the most accurate, I not long ago started with Psychic Lesson in love, and Melodie and they to were all rather realistic and accurate...So find out for yourselves folks, I dont want to be apart of this one, I can see it going somewhere deep.


leaving the building now...
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#58 Consumer Comment

Iris/Metafizzical you can kiss your LivePerson expert account goodbye! That's for not adhering to LivePerson's Expert Community Guidelines.

AUTHOR: Jasper - (U.S.A.)

Iris you are a very dark person. Not only were you silenced on their forums but now you will get shut down and thrown off LivePerson once and for good!




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For those clients out there, im always under 2 a minute. I am now Misticalmisty. I treat my clients with respect and dedication. I offer a card free in all live sessions. Try for yourself and see the light I can shed on your path or destiny. What can it hurt when its free to try and see. You will see the truth of what im saying. Thank you G-d bless u.
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Whocares, Nebraska
U.S.A
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#59 UPDATE Employee

This is Shining love setting the record straight.

AUTHOR: Shining Love - (U.S.A.)

Firstly it saddens me how people can take out time in their day to sabotage and try to hurt others, because they have been hurt, I knew and seen this day coming, I knew that with all the raves and reviews I got that someone would want to tear me down, personally I am not in it for the money I have a 9-5 and I am blessed with a gift to help others. I dont go around selling spells, I dont lie, if I dont know something I will tell a person, I dont say stuff to make you come back, I dont re read my transcripts, I dont share info with other readers, I dont sugar coat, I am none of those, I may be off on somethings, as noone is perfect and noone knows everything, that is left up to God. Noone forces anyone to come to liveperson and order readings. Noone forces you to spend your money! That is by choice. Yes I may word things the same way, I use pretty much the same words, Oh well, that is normal, in any professional field you are going to use certain words to explain and express certain things. I am very disappointed with the clients that I have read for, posting things on here about me, they went from warm to cold.
Sad things if, maybe Janice did have bad experiences, maybe most of you did, but you dont have to lash out and blame others for your pain and for your suffering.
One with a strong mind, would not be hanging on to this, Why are you still doing this, this doesnt stop others from going based upon there own judge of charcter, its impossible to think that, some people like Mcdonalds some like Burger King and you here bad things, But neither are going out of business. I would not be on Liveperson if I didnt have a gift, I dont do cold readings, half of the time I tell my clients to let me connect to them, I dont want much information. You know this looks very silly, I sympathize with those who have been hurt, but what are you proving by coming on here, slandering people and there names, its just plan evil.

I am a God loving woman and fearing one at that, and " Karma" knocks at the door of wrong, this is my karma for the sin of exploiting my gift in the form of greed.
I put alot of energy into my work, and some can feel it and some cannot, but the majority rules. I am even more hurt that a very very trusted and good client of mines, would post such things about me, as I supported her and gave her the highest level of truth.


Janice pretty much started this all, I was vacationing an spent 2 hours with her, comforting her etc, half the time didnt charge her. She is delusional and already suffers from a mental illness, and is constantly hanging on to someone she has never seen in the physical form. Then she is breaking all types of acts, law, policies, by posting transcripts, mostly altered on the site, that I know for a fact I can get removed! In fact most of the post, she creates extra screen names and email addresses, not saying on but most, and she acts like a client and says awful things, she has a problem, and those who follow her....that says alot. So she is posting all this stuff, I mean she will stuck it to me, and I was more then nice to her, didnt tell one lie, have 5 star ratings and she even told me I was real last week, and today I just so happened to see her on Yahoo and wanted to check on her so she responded and I listened to her vent, rather crazy off the wall stuff...
And she said I dont have to pretend to care, at that time didnt know what the hell she was talking about, then she said she would divert the attention off of me, so I didnt catch it til I went to the group cause a current client of mines told me about it and I had this feeling and when I went there moments after I blocked her from contacting me, she posted this bull on weakguyonkasamba. You know I dont expect anyone to jump in to defend me or to even understand where I am coming from. I am also human, i have had readings, so where off the mark, I LET IT GO!
Life goes on, and I dont rip people off, we all pay our dues someway, but you are only doing as what was done to you. What is strange, most of the readers you all mention are the highest ranked with repeat clients. Anyone that listens to Janice , come on she is delusional and on the weird side, she said her dog was a doctor, she said babies were going to be buried, she said she would fly to New york and bust through Liveperson....lol And she said she would expose certain experts for Tax evasion Sigh* I mean who has time for all of this... Dont judge a book by its cover people.... There are good readers there, and always get the story behind all, not saying that they were wronged, cause it happens, but before you start drama, have your facts together...And to think people you put your energy into, goes back and discuss there own info with this lady, be careful of what you share.
I am by no means upset, jsut hurt. Noone likes to see anyone shine, I knew it was prone to happen....I am a fake ah! Now that I dont know, i truly have a gift I cannot guess and make up stuff sorry, and what I do know is that all that are taking part in this, need to seek peace within themselves, Karma will come back, so whatver you are desiring, wont nearly come as you want it, do wrong and it will come back!

P.S Cold readings, very unlikely to do with the complicated situations.
Remeber we are all human, so you are hurting others by what you are doing!

Blessings
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#60 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Some more insight for all of you

AUTHOR: Iris - (U.S.A.)

I don't remember who said what here, as I don't really keep track of it, but I'll respond to some comments.

1. In terms of changing your Kasamba screen name because you've been "outed" here. That'll do you no good. The "experts" track you by Member ID, which doesn't change no matter how many times you change your screen name. They share this information, and also look up in Google to see if you're a bad rater.

2. I know Janice supports KU, but I have evidence that they share client details. In fact, I have an email from Robin (from way back when) that specifically encourages doing so in their group. I saved it as a PDF so the evidence is there. I have emails from other KU members which are equally revealing and damaging.

3. In terms of Shining Love or whichever other "psychics" you discuss here - they ALL do cold readings... they are ALL frauds and fakes. They fish for information and guess, using gypsy techniques. You find ways to make what they say somehow fit into your scenario and all of a sudden you think they're right.

4. It doesn't take a psychic or a rocket scientist to know that 99% of the clients are women asking about a man they haven't heard from in ages.

5. I saw that Fruno thread and I'm not surprised that he's scripted. MANY of them are. I went to "Lee" (Australian gal) when I first discovered Kasamba as a client, and much to my dismay found out that my transcript was eerily similar (and at times identical) to several other people's.

6. Yes, LivePerson is equally liable here. They knowingly promote and advertise cons and frauds. By taking 40% of the monies, they are parties to the fraud, despite their denials. I sound like a broken record, but the best course to take is a CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT. Hold LivePerson's foot to the flame. Make them give all of you back every last penny you paid.

I was a client before I was an expert. I was taken for thousands of dollars as well. Not one prediction ever came true. I was given tons of false hope. Lots of b.s. When I'd go back and confront them, they'd either tell me it was my fault, or they'd say "it's going to happen soon, be patient," or they'd click out and block me.

Melodie is very nice. Yes. BUT she is not a psychic. She is simply a nice person who gives advice based on the information you give her. She has never gotten anything right with me. NOT ONE PSYCHIC ON KASAMBA/LIVE PERSON has ever gotten anything right. Melodie talks to you like a good friend. She encourages you. I do feel she "cares" about people and the clients, but you can get a supportive ear with your friends. You don't need to pay someone money for that.

LP has made $33,000 just from me in commissions over the years, and I'm one of the small earners! That means clients spent $80,000 on credit cards just with me. Now multiply that by 1000 experts (most of whom made more than I did), and you're looking at $80,000,00.

Let me repeat that because I want it to sink in - LivePerson has made at least $80,000,000 from people being ripped off and scammed by the uncredentialed "experts" on their site!

LivePerson has silenced me on their forums, because I was speaking up against them. I have been encouraging clients to STOP calling psychics and start taking control of their lives.

I want each and every one of you to track down all the victims of LP/Kas, and get an attorney to file a class action on your behalf, to get your monies back.

In the meantime, each of you individually should write a letter, sending it certified return receipt requested, to the legal department at LivePerson in New York. Make a demand for a refund of all your monies based on fraud, false advertising and misrepresentation. I will bet you dollars to donuts you'll prevail.

Contact me via Janice's group if you want proof of anything. I'll figure out ways to upload the PDF's of some of my transcripts as a client so you can see the b.s. I was given by so many of the experts there.

Good luck to all of you. Believe in yourselves more!
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#61 Consumer Comment

Shining Love Nightmare

AUTHOR: Jh - (U.S.A.)

For some reason a lot of my posts here aren't showing up!

I have now read transcripts from about 4 people and they are ALL THE SAME - SCRIPTED AS S SAYS. I am sickened and angry. Some of it is word for word the same.

I expect if this starts to affect business she'll change to a new ID. Who knows. But I feel so devastated. Some of what she's told people in these scripts has gotten hopes up OR down. And she's at times egged people on to take certain actions.

I'm sickened all the way....can't even explain how I feel.
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#62 Consumer Comment

Shining Love does scripted readings.....

AUTHOR: S - (United Kingdom)

I have just read transcripts belonging to a client, and the readings are most definately scripted...word for word. Biggest scam in the book.

As I have said before, I knew I was right I would not have posted about any reader being a fraud unless I was sure, but that is the most damming evidence.

I expect the next thing is to uncover either a multiple identity or client sharing at the very least.

Time will tell.
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#63 Consumer Comment

Shining Love was no good for me either

AUTHOR: Not Better Off - (U.S.A.)

I tried her because she had some wonderful reviews and her rates seemed reasonable.
I think she is a good cold reader and is particularly gifted at assessing relationships. I hold a belief about her methods, which I do not wish to share here.

I don't feel she has ANY psychic ability.

In my experience, things did not play out the way she described them. One thing she mentioned did happen WAY past the timeframe she gave, but it was a pretty generic occurrence, so I'm not sure how "psychic" it was. She also told me how I would be feeling at the time of it (I'd wager she told you the same thing, JH). She was wrong.
I don't want to go into further specifics here in public, but I too would be willing to share my experience with you JH. I'm curious as well now to see if we were given similar reads.
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#64 Consumer Comment

no-one is perfect

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

Least of all me (I am sure that is ONE point on which many will concur) but you know what after all this time doing this research I am still confused about where to draw the line.

I KNOW what makes a fraud-I have pages and pages and pages of them. But in terms of clients expectations viz what is delivered I am less clear. This is one reason I was and am determined to only identify those who commit obvious acts of fraud such asscripted readings, spell (although the company don't belive that) rigging ratngs, sharing client info, making 100% sure predictions and then turning on the clients and blocking them.

I still remember that reading I had 20 years ago. No timeframe was given but she predicted a huge positive change in my life. I didn't ask her when because I never in a million years envisaged that it would happen. She didn't give a lot of details but six months later one thing happened-a small thing-she said I would share a house with a woman whose previous place had burt down. I remember flashing back to the reading when she told me. A couple of years later a freind was moving overseas and I inherited his black and white cat, like she said.

The change did come and it started 2-3 years after the reading. I do believe in the abilities. However, like many situations that are potentially deleterious to peoples' health and well-being, the only way to allow psychics to work in good conditions and for clients to make informed choices is to regulate the industry. Even things like not allowing them to say 100% accurate, accurate, whatever would help. The worse thing is building up clients expectations and they are more able to do this now because they hide behind this facade of supposed respectability. I had never been on a psychic site in my life until I saw Kasamba. I had had the odd reading over the years but I actually had no idea that people would be on the same site as teachers and counsellors and rip people off.

I know it is easier said than done. If that company was not so intent on bleeding money out of people it would be an ideal setting for a regulated service. Most of the research I have done in the last few months has been on that aspect rather than on 'stalking frauds'. They just posted their latest finacial report and I nearly choked on my cup of tea when I saw it. I put it up on the group. There is no moral or rational reason in the world for a company that is making that sort of money to institute practices that enable the frauds to fleece clients and knobble the legitimate experts.

The company seems to forget that without the psychics that part of it would incur huge losses. They are eroding any rights which the legitimate experts have to fair working conditions and for which they pay more than a third of their earnings. They are allowing th frauds untrammelled opportunities to fleece clients. How many mercs and expensive suits do they need? How on God's earth do they sleep at night?

I have to admit that when I got myself into this (my choice, i know, I know) that while I knew it wouldn't be easy, I never imagined that they would intentionally implement policies and practices that not only make it worse for the legitimate experts to do what they have a right to do-work (a fair days work for a fair day's pay as we say here), but that they twist and manipulate to fleece the clients.

I have so much evidence that proves this and it is beyond me how they think they can get away with this in the developed world. I will disseminate the research in a form that can be accessed by attornies for class action, authorities etc. I jsut cannot say when. It is getting close though. It is not about the frauds per se, it never was.

I hate some of the frauds more than others but hey, I am only human,as one fraud told me after she said she was 'not wrong' for months). It seems she only uiddenly became 'human' when she was proven wrong, or was it my fault-both I think according to her because, well she didn't really tell me why it was my fault, she just blocked me. She is of course a ciminal and on the front page. But you never know what might happen-the forces of nature or free will might just change things for her
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#65 Consumer Comment

Sick

AUTHOR: Jh - (U.S.A.)

I posted a small followup last night, but it's not posted. Not sure if it's a ROR delay or if (like another time) it just never appears due to whatever glitch.

Anyway, again, I would like to talk to S via email if you can go through weakguys to contact me, or through Janice. Esp now, as I was discussing this SL issue with a few people, TOTALLY CONFUSED!! But as of this morning I've seen some transcripts of readings SL did with another, and some of what she told this person is word for word the same as me. That or the points she makes are mostly the same, just adapted for the situation.

I feel sick over this in a way I can't describe. She REALLY was dead on, but I guess certain relationships and situations are easy to read and follow patterns that someone can fake easily. I'm thinking back over some things she's told me, and while I can't explain how she got certain things SOOO right (like factual things), the rest is just a carbon copy of what this other person was told. The predictions I was given though had a timeframe, and there were some more than usual made as time went on. I'm not sure if that was to bring me back for more reads or what, though I haven't been in to see her for about 6 weeks. I don't know what to think, really. Right now I feel like this is as bad as what's gone on in my personal life this year - because this person seemed absolutely legit and they knew I was taking some actions based on their advice because of how accurate they seemed to be. I feel sick, like I've been taken advantage in the worst way possible.

What is very weird is that a reader I read with weeks before SL told me nearly the same path/story as SL did. So now I wonder about that and will look into it.

Thanks to you both and to the people discussing this with me. I do want to still look into this further, which I am! And do hope S contacts me.
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#66 Consumer Comment

Thanks to you both

AUTHOR: Jh - (U.S.A.)

I do appreciate what you both are saying, and I know you'd not say it unless you felt it was absolutely true. I can't stress that enough! From the other side though, you have to understand that after seeing nothing but praise for this reader and having great experiences with her, it's a bit shocking to see this said. That's why I asked for more specifics, of which you gave some. I also asked on weakguys if S can contact me. Janice can vouch for me if you need reassurance :)

I really don't know what to think for myself now, as things were said by SL out of the blue to me about random things present and past which all were accurate. The same with my situation. And much of what she's said has come to pass. If she's been guessing or fishing, then she must have a great streak of luck as she was dead on. There is one thing she's said that I can't see happening, I will say that.

I know the power of suggestion has been mentioned, but what she said I'd start feeling during a read in early July didn't seem possible - and it took about a month and a lot of turmoil and feelings before I did start thinking that way. But I was set off by a few things I saw on my own (an event, a book and some old messages I read over). Many readers, friends and others have told me things that I should be feeling or doing, but my feelings and emotions follow their own path. The last weeks have been very difficult for me with head vs. heart issues and they are both fighting quite often within this situation of mine! Other readers who I feel were honest gave timeframes for feeling better or other things, but I never felt they were right or that I could follow those timeframes. Not counting wanting to believe Catatina's timeframes (now that's a ripoff!), there was only exception to my trusting in a timeframe I was given (due to what I know of the "real life" situation and how things were going all around). Other than that I know that unless I let my feelings flow at their own rate, no matter how slow, then I'll never get anywhere.

If SL is a fraud, then I do want to know and understand that absolutely. I don't expect anyone who is a real reader to be god, so I do expect that some readers will be very wrong with some people. I also understand that people who are good at cold reads are very good at them!

So I'm confused over this. I would appreciate it if S could contact me just to fill me in a bit, if at all possible. If not, that's no problem.

I know that as a sidenote, I probably should change my ID on LP if I ever see any new readers as I know that having outed myself due to being challenged on another thread here has gotten me marked and who knows what else by a few.
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#67 Consumer Comment

I will only say

AUTHOR: No One - (Africa)

she made a number of what I knew to be thoroughly incorrect and off-base inferences based on what she thought (emphasis on THOUGHT - she was incorrect about that as well) was the ethnicity of the persons involved. I will say no more at this point, as I believe in personal responsibility above all, and once the warning I considered necessary to give is given, it is the clients' responsibility to choose to exert caution or not, as they see fit.
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#68 Consumer Comment

I would love to be specific but................

AUTHOR: S - (United Kingdom)

I don't want to be for two reasons. My business remains my own, I do not want to discuss my personal life experiences in detail in an open forum such as this one. I don't want my identity revealed on the internet and I don't trust that that could not happen. (Look what happened to Janice).

But mainly the reason for not being specific is because its not the right time to be. My own intuition came into play first, but then I accessed information that I would not divulge here, simply because I would then not be able to access information. Sorry for being so cryptic JH but that for now is the way it has to be.

I watched the "Shining Love is wonderful" stuff for a while without saying anything, but in the end I wanted to state my opinion because I felt it was not right for me to be on this forum and not state my views at least. After all, how could I rant and rave (as I have done many times in the past lol!) about unethical experts and scammers, and clients being ripped off when I know what I know. So thats why I posted my views for you to see. I felt at least I had to share that much.

Yes I know that people come here and smear people for all sorts of nasty and underhanded reasons and the experts on Liveperson are the ones that do this. But I have been posting here for a long time now, and if anyone thinks that I am some Liveperson plant/fruadulant expert, or anyone else with a dodgy agenda then I can't help that. I think its pretty well obvious that i am not. You will have to trust your own instincts on that one, as we all do have to on this site where so many frauds abuse it.

If I can find a way to speak with you personally (maybe via weakguys site) then I will be able to divulge more. We will have to see. Meanwhile again, I stand by what I say. Shining Love is a fraud and a liar. She is not psychic and I don't care how authentic her readings appear to you, she is not and that it that. I have no reason to say this if this was not a real view, and I certainly would not say it if I was not sure. She is a fantastic cold reader, and a great con artist but not psychic.

At the end of the day you will have to make your own mind up, I am very glad that "no one" came forward with the same views and aired them here. I hope other's will realise and do the same to. But more importantly I hope people stop getting readings from her as they are being conned.

This forum is supposed to be for people to warn others of experiences of getting ripped off and that is what I have done. Used it for the purpose it is meant for so my concience is clear.
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#69 Consumer Comment

Your Experiences?

AUTHOR: Jh - (U.S.A.)

I really appreciate both of your comments. But I'm really torn as I know what my experiences with SL have been and what info was and wasn't given (I read the transcripts many times). Can the two of you tell us what happened in your reads that gave you such a different view than others who really like her and have felt she's been accurate? I know it would help to have specifics rather than just "she's a fake". For me, that sort of thing just tends to make me question everyone's intentions (as in everyone!).
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#70 Consumer Comment

Your Experiences?

AUTHOR: Jh - (U.S.A.)

I really appreciate both of your comments. But I'm really torn as I know what my experiences with SL have been and what info was and wasn't given (I read the transcripts many times). Can the two of you tell us what happened in your reads that gave you such a different view than others who really like her and have felt she's been accurate? I know it would help to have specifics rather than just "she's a fake". For me, that sort of thing just tends to make me question everyone's intentions (as in everyone!).
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#71 Consumer Comment

Your Experiences?

AUTHOR: Jh - (U.S.A.)

I really appreciate both of your comments. But I'm really torn as I know what my experiences with SL have been and what info was and wasn't given (I read the transcripts many times). Can the two of you tell us what happened in your reads that gave you such a different view than others who really like her and have felt she's been accurate? I know it would help to have specifics rather than just "she's a fake". For me, that sort of thing just tends to make me question everyone's intentions (as in everyone!).
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#72 Consumer Comment

Your Experiences?

AUTHOR: Jh - (U.S.A.)

I really appreciate both of your comments. But I'm really torn as I know what my experiences with SL have been and what info was and wasn't given (I read the transcripts many times). Can the two of you tell us what happened in your reads that gave you such a different view than others who really like her and have felt she's been accurate? I know it would help to have specifics rather than just "she's a fake". For me, that sort of thing just tends to make me question everyone's intentions (as in everyone!).
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#73 Consumer Comment

Cold Reading

AUTHOR: No One - (Africa)

Hi again,

I see that ROR redacted the links I had provided. Let me try again: for anyone concerned about being taken by a cold reader masquerading as a psychic, please do visit the sceptic dictionary (scepdic dot com) and read their entry on cold reading. JH, I really do not wish to upset or aggravate you, but based on what you have posted, I would ask you to read on such psychological phenomena as subjective validation, selective thinking, and confirmation bias - the stuff seemingly correct psychic readings are almost always based on. I am not, emphatically not, saying that this is your case - just something to bear in mind, for your own self-protection, and that of anyone who chooses to consult with a psychic.
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#74 Consumer Comment

Will have to report back once more time has passed

AUTHOR: Jh - (U.S.A.)

I guess all I can do is, after more time has passed, to say if still to come things Shining predicted do come to pass. That will be the proof for me as they're specific predictions.
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#75 Consumer Comment

The power of suggestion....

AUTHOR: S - (United Kingdom)

is truly very powerful. And applied by the right person, ie, someone who has developed the art, cannot be underestimated.

Shining Love, apart from being a cold reader of great expertise, has developed that art.

JH - this is NOT a critisism of you, and this is obviously only my perception. But you come across as someone who tends to wear their heart of their sleeve. You have been very open and honest and divulged information that perhaps a lot of us would not do. And that is on an open forum such as this. So I would hazzard a guess that in private sessions with SH, you have divulged great detail, maybe without realising it, as she would know how to get it from you.

I stand by what I say. Shining love is a fake and a liar. I would not state that if I was not absolutely sure. At the end of the day, it is up to individuals to make their own choices about having readings and who with. But this forum is here for people to post experiences and views, so that other's may be able to make more informed choices.

Unfortunately, the scammers and frauds use this site to bash each other and bash real clients. That makes it more difficult to work out what is a real post and what is not. Thats what they want....to undermine ROR and confuse people. Its all part of the scam which at the end of the day they will go to obcene efforts to protect.

Its up to the individual to work out who is who and their REAL purpose for coming to this site and these threads. Hopefully people will and some people will be spared the emotional trauma and financial loss, and if some people are spared then I personally think its worth it.
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#76 Consumer Comment

What was showed

AUTHOR: Jh - (U.S.A.)

I gave her just a general Q when I first read with her, and she was off running. Some of the things she couldn't have known are things that you couldn't have guessed as you'd be wrong. People and descriptions, events that didn't happen (but something that no one would think didn't happen!), a person from last year and the exact way things went with them (someone who wasn't even an issue), a female mutual friend who really qualifies as the only mutual friend in this situation, an exact timeframe of when something started being bad, exact behaviors when I'd given her no info.... From the start I was looking at the transcripts and wondering if she could be cold reading, but there was too much there unless this was the world's greatest run of multiple choice luck. She saw someone else, too, and other things. I'm just saying what's off the top of my head at the moment.

Then there was a scene she saw which did happen, and I don't live in an area where this would be "normal" for me. And the feelings thing that I mentioned actually happened on their own. I didn't think she could be correct on it, but then I was starting to get fed up with something on my own, but on and off. Partly because of a recent "game" someone played which happened after I last spoke to her. Then as of last week I've shifted some more, as I read some old things from the start of the year which made me angry instead of hurting me. So I've been propelled forward a bit from that, though below the surface there's still much confusion. But it is what she did say to me as far as where my moods would end up.

But for me personally I never react like this this "early" and it's also been different with my inside vs my outside so to speak. So again, I didn't think I would be where she said I would, but I am. And trust me, it's not to do with her. A lot happened in between all of this personally which was and is killer.

So I don't know. I do trust her absolutely still. If others had negative experiences, or if some of that proof can be revealed, then I'd appreciate it. But from all I've experienced and seen from others reports, she is real.
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#77 Consumer Comment

Shining Love

AUTHOR: Augusta - (U.S.A.)

I have not as yet tried her as I had some hesitations after viewing her profile. The link was taken down about where to go re cold readings - but I had read an indepth article on it and it is very true that an experienced cold reader can tell you things that make you really think they are psychic. They ran a test on clients who thought they were seeing a tarot reader and the clients gushed about it, then found out it was a cold reader (the reader was part of the test). Through experience you can know how someone may react over time to situations - and perhaps by her telling you it sunk into your subconscious and then manifested later as that feeling - and you are like EUREKA she was right. The mind is very powerful subconsciously and you need to be really careful what you allow to take root.
I have not tried her so I am not saying I know anything about her specifically. You can go back and print your reads and then read them carefully and judge for yourself. What did she know that no one else did? Was it really a specific event in your life that was unusual?
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#78 Consumer Comment

Don't Know What to Say

AUTHOR: Jh - (U.S.A.)

I don't know what to say, as there were very specific things she saw from the past and prediction wise that couldn't have come from cold reading alone. Really.

I am "watching" to see how her and some others' predictions on some things work out in the next week (if they do), so we'll see. But I do know that right now she was right about something I'd be feeling - which is NOT how I ever react to things such as my situation. It's totally out of character for me to feel as I am now, and it's also contrary to everything I told her I was feeling in my sessions with her along the way. At the time she said this, I thought there was no way. But it's happening.

So in the end I don't know if the rest of what she said will come true, but she has been very on the mark with me so far. I think only time will tell in the end what's going on and what happens.
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#79 Consumer Comment

S. is right about Shining Love

AUTHOR: No One - (Africa)

I can comment based on my experience that Shining Love is a very, very shrewd and intelligent cold reader. But that is all that she is. A cold reader, possessed of great experience and quite a good deal of logic. The quality of her advice may no doubt be sound, given that, but she has not an ounce of psychic powers, and you'd be equally well served by an intelligent friend's insight. Without going into details, I can attest that she reads off generalities based on things she can infer from such factors as age and ethnicity, which no doubt may fit a great majority of the people who request her services - but not all.

I suggest you read on the methods of cold readers, and you will see why Shining Love may have appeared to know things you never told anyone about:

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Please do consider the possibility that you are in the hands of an enormously clever cold reader before you spend any more of your money on readings with her.

CLICK here to see why Rip-off Report, as a matter of policy, deleted either a phone number, link or e-mail address from this Report.
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#80 Consumer Comment

Shocked

AUTHOR: Jh - (U.S.A.)

S, I'm not sure what info you have, but I can assure you Shining Love has been accurate with things I'd not told anyone, right down to the smallest things. There's no way anyone could have known the things she knew in detail. Things that weren't mentioned to other readers...or friends even! I'm not sure what info you have, but with me, she's accurate. I have seen a few bad reviews for her, but not too many.
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#81 Consumer Comment

Im sorry JH, but Shining Love is a fake and a liar.

AUTHOR: S - (United Kingdom)

Ive got the proof. It will be in the report, trust me on that one.

My advice is to not have any readings with her and let the next few months happen then you will see that I am right.
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#82 Consumer Comment

Im sorry JH, but Shining Love is a fake and a liar.

AUTHOR: S - (United Kingdom)

Ive got the proof. It will be in the report, trust me on that one.

My advice is to not have any readings with her and let the next few months happen then you will see that I am right.
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#83 Consumer Comment

Im sorry JH, but Shining Love is a fake and a liar.

AUTHOR: S - (United Kingdom)

Ive got the proof. It will be in the report, trust me on that one.

My advice is to not have any readings with her and let the next few months happen then you will see that I am right.
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#84 Consumer Comment

I've had the "uncanny" remembrances, Aware

AUTHOR: Jh - (U.S.A.)

Aware, I've had a few situations where I felt that a reader was looking at past transcripts or reading off them. I've also had some readers I'd seen before pause at the start to "connect" or without even saying anything. In those cases I have been suspicious, mainly as I get a gut feeling that tells me something isn't right here.

In two cases when that happened, I found that whereas the reader was absolutely spot on when they first read for me, the second reading wasn't very good - and they didn't need to do that after how they really did connect the first time. I felt let down in those cases after having had such a great experience the first time around. In both these cases that I'm thinking of, I'm not sure that my initial great opinions of the readers is one that will stand permanently. They are talented -- but they got "sloppy" afterwards, so to speak.

After a while, you do get a feel for when a reader is or isn't refreshing their memory as you go along. I can think of the above ones and compare them to some others, and you kind of get an odd feeling when you feel someone is reading off an old trasnscript. There's things that are said that pop out or are said in certain ways or that come out at random times, things that stand out to you and give you those "gut" feelings.

With Shining Love, she's one of a few who are off the cuff jumping into the reading with you -- there's literally no time or pauses for them to go back to old transcripts. I found when I read with David James, he was the same way. And anyone who's read with him knows he kind of rushes you in and out! There's another reader I like who I think refreshed her memory once, but the rest of the time would just jump right in. But she also was off the cuff 99% of the time. Really, it's all about gut feelings and who works with you. After everything I've written on another thread (and I'm not even done with what I want to write!) I do have a very healthy dose of skepticism when it comes to "judgeing" readers. Esp as I feel I was outright ripped off by two of the "top" ones, looking back.
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#85 Consumer Comment

JH - they don't really remember everything

AUTHOR: Aware - (U.S.A.)

JH - ShiningLove may be talented and wonderful (I don't personally know one way or the other), but don't be impressed by experts who "remember" everything. LivePerson experts have access to all past transcripts of sessions a client has conducted with THEM - not ones with other experts.
All they have to do is click a button, and they can pull up all the past sessions.
It's a neat little trick. It used to blow me away as well before I was made aware of what was really going on. I'd be so impressed when I came in to a chat and the expert remembered me and my situation. I thought: WOW! They must really care about me and be invested in helping me. Ha! They were just re-reading our past sessions!!

OK, so maybe some do care and want to help. I'm not saying that having access to past transcripts makes everyone a scammer, but the one's who are can certainly use that to their advantage. Maybe if you're visiting the reader all the time, they eventually will remember you, but when it's once or twice, there's nothing to be impressed about.
I've seen comment after comment in ratings about how so-and-so "remembered me after 3 years!" Sure they did.
I used to think that was the mark of a good reader. I mean, really! They take the time to get to know their clients and remember them? Oh. Oops! They just have access to our previous sessions. What a let-down.
I'd be impressed if the reader is accurate - when they predict stuff that happens. It seems ShiningLove has been accurate for you, and that's great! There's simply nothing amazing about her remembering you though.
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#86 Consumer Comment

Can't speak for her, but

AUTHOR: Jh - (U.S.A.)

I can't speak for the person you're calling out who wrote she was an employee (that could be an accidental selection or, who knows, she could have subconsciously outed herself!).

However, as I've said here and on another thread, Shining Love is GREAT. The woman is accurate and probably the best reader on LP. She takes a lot of extra time for clients when she doesn't have to, and she remembers everything - tunes in right away, as well. I've said on another thread here on the ROR that there are a handful of readers I'm really wowed by, and Shining Love my tops and I think always will be. Of all the readers I've seen these last months, she's one of the 2 or 3 I'd go back to in the future no matter what as a "regular" reader.

Just last week in fact she said some things which I thought NO WAY! to as far as something I'd start to feel. I'm pretty easy knowing what kind of things I feel in certain circumstances, and I know how I react to certain things. But as the week has gone on and certain things have happened....what do you know....I've started to feel like she's said due to the frustrations I'm facing. And it's totally unlike me to get like this, yet here I am. And I see right now that feeling like this actually makes total sense and, while kind of "foreign" to me, will push me towards whatever's next.

No one is perfect, and some people may not connect with her or other readers (hey, I've not connected with a number of ones I saw back when I was really needing help, which is difficult but does happen!). But I really don't think you'll find anyone more ethical and real than her.

I don't know the other reader mentioned, but my guess is that the person who posted chose the wrong button or made some sort of mistake. Who knows? I used to always choose "customer suggestion" as I kept missing "customer comment"!
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#87 Consumer Suggestion

Nice Try

AUTHOR: Judith - (U.S.A.)

Shaddowe you list yourself as an employee of Kasamba. Not a client. And if you are a client, why didn't you leave fabulous feedback for both of these readers? Somehow I doubt the above is a legitimate post.
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#88 UPDATE Employee

Shining love and Silvermooncircle are great

AUTHOR: Shaddowe - (United Kingdom)

All of Shining Loves predictions have come true to date - and Silvermooncircle is excellent too - and very cheap through email!


Ancestorial WolfVisions is USELESS though! Nothing ever came to pass, and she treats you like an idiot - wont be going back to them!
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#89 UPDATE Employee

Shining love and Silvermooncircle are great

AUTHOR: Shaddowe - (United Kingdom)

All of Shining Loves predictions have come true to date - and Silvermooncircle is excellent too - and very cheap through email!


Ancestorial WolfVisions is USELESS though! Nothing ever came to pass, and she treats you like an idiot - wont be going back to them!
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#90 Consumer Comment

Shining Love again :)

AUTHOR: Jh - (U.S.A.)

Just wanted to followup about Shining Love and my earlier comments.

The main thing I was talking to her about is still in progress, however the last time we spoke she mentioned something else offhandedly that would happen to me. It didn't sound like anything or anywhere I'd be at all, so I just filed it away in my head and left it at that. It seemed a bit random.

Well, this past Sunday it came true. And I know why it popped up out of all the things that could have.

She also follows up from time to time to check up on regulars. As I said before, this woman is wonderful and amazing. Really, she's one of the tops and one of the real real real real real ones on LP :)
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#91 Consumer Comment

Shining Love again :)

AUTHOR: Jh - (U.S.A.)

Just wanted to followup about Shining Love and my earlier comments.

The main thing I was talking to her about is still in progress, however the last time we spoke she mentioned something else offhandedly that would happen to me. It didn't sound like anything or anywhere I'd be at all, so I just filed it away in my head and left it at that. It seemed a bit random.

Well, this past Sunday it came true. And I know why it popped up out of all the things that could have.

She also follows up from time to time to check up on regulars. As I said before, this woman is wonderful and amazing. Really, she's one of the tops and one of the real real real real real ones on LP :)
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#92 Consumer Comment

Re: here is my list.

AUTHOR: Canadalove - (U.S.A.)

I have to with Kasamba now Liveperson since 12/2007

Now I am not going to use my name or screen name because, I am still a client there, and I dont want to damage my relaitonship with the readers that read for me.

I actually did had a reading done with Patricia Coleman and her predictions changed as I also know with time things can change. But how can one go off a reading, and with the free will, I changed nothing, so to me God is the higher power and he dictates what your future holds.

I haven't had a reading with Earthshod, so I cannot speak on her, but when I read the report I went to her ratings and they look pretty good.

As for the rest I have my list.......

Sara Fina- A total fake, and I dont bash readers I spend a good amount of money, for insight but she instills false hope and makes up things too good to be true.

Autumn Dancing Heart- Very positive, and all predictions happened, one happened one week ago.

Melodie, she works with charts, and she is very ethical and honest.

Reflective Soul- Yes she is nice..and I have faith in her because she was honest.

Watchman Aquiya- wasnt good for me, however she did pinpoint alot of facts, but it was general and things I already knew.

Shining Heart- When I read the intial posting here I tried her, and she was very accurate. In fact she was very honest and didnt spice it up. SO I would agree she is very accurate.

Ms Laura- Is very helpful, I could chat with her all day.

Master Z- wasnt good for me.

David James- was good for me, what he said made sense. I use him regularly.

Psychic Mark Wright- Not good for me wasnt accurate

readings by shadow, she tried to sell me a spell and Lily guidance.

Psychic Dee Clare, wasnt good for me either, what she said the opposite happened.

And I could agree with you more about Sara fina

Pennyc wasnt good for me either.

Savahanna wasnt good for me either

Psychic lessons in love was good for me



So you see people, every company has it downfalls and you have your right to have opinions, but noone force you to hire this experts adn continually go back, go with your own gut feeling. They are not all so bad and some are better for us then other they all connect differently. I respect the ones above that I mentioned cause they guided me right.....And just because they get a bad report or one or two or three stars dont judge a book by its cover, it may have been something that the person didnt want to hear, some people are afraid of the truth. I hate the readers that continually change their stories to keep you coming back. But I admire the ones that tell you the truth and leave the rest up to Jesus. I acutally one star a reader because I was in denial of the truth, so you see....dont completely mark this site out, its alot better then Keen...... At least you have the option to hire when you feel connected. Its not all the readers, there are deranged clients to.
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#93 Consumer Comment

My personal experience and my list of readers

AUTHOR: Lovetakestime - (U.S.A.)

Ok, First and foremost I have been to Liveperson (Kasamba), and Keen and both sites are pretty darn funny to day the least, Let me rephrase that its not the sites that are bad its the people on there. I have had good experiences on both sites amd then bad ones. At the end of 2006 me and my wife started having problems and I became infatuated with this woman that was mutually attracted to me, and I guess I was just curious if this was going to work out with the wife or with the new lover, I am two a ex- addict to psychics, I recently stopped at the end of April. I have had my share and below list all the readers that were accurate and caring and those that charge a arm and a leg and they completely wrong, its pretty sad how some people will tell you anything that could effect ones life (if vulnerable or not at the right mindframe bka weaker minded for a few dollars how could you live with that, I was told so many things, and the only a few predicted that me and my wife would separated last year and I would share a child with this new woman btw it 5 month pregnant and we now live together and I am true believer that whatever God has in store for you will happen regardless to what one says. I want to let you all know that some readers those who give you insight on determination and to guide you are the ones you are seeking, not the ones that sale you false hope that will hurt at the end, if it sounds too good to be true without the pros and the cons, beware. And also watch for the ones that read from what you tell them or use the same words, Soulmates or Past lifes, or Dear I hate those three words. Ok here is my list from Liveperson which I spent over $4,000 in the course of Nov 2006- April 2008.

Majorie Moonstone- Did two readings for me and she was wrong both times, and she changed her stories on me so it left me confused.

Master Psychic Racheal, I remember her very well because she was nice but she seemed to read from common sense and from what I told her, half of what she said was true but none of the predictions happened and she says things that she wants you to believe that are factual but also were not true. But she is nice I gave her 4 stars.

Kevin Karmas- Not there anymore now on Keen very expensive and was completely wrong all about money.

PennyC- Too expensive more then very talented and gifted readers and she was totally wrong everything was off, not good.

High Priestess- She was wrong as much faith as I wanted to have in her she was really nice, but wrong- I question some of the readers true ability I really do.

Voodoo Love Queen- She was wrong, didnt happen, and I had faith that it would from her rating but it didnt happen.

Spiritual Guidance- Look at her ratings and she is another one that can read the situation, but she tells you some stuff that isnt true, she makes half side good and the other said bad, she isnt as good as they make her, cause nothing she said happened, was shocked.

Penny Clark- Didnt happen, dont waste your time

Sara Fina- not sure about her she is very fake she tells you only what you want to hear, and I think she does checks on you as she ask for first time and then comes back with information for example how would she know if a person is related on my end and not my ex- wife's,m she is fake trust me. she ask for location also

Celestial of the mind- wrong guesses and he is not good

Patricia COleman- I disagree I didnt have a good experience although I left a 5 star her predictions didnt happen and she changed her story once again.

NubiaGoddess- not good she voices her own opinion based on what you tell her she doesnt have a gift.


Readings by tabitha - no good

Gyspy Raven- hung up rudely and then blocked me, when I only was explaining my situation

Readings by Lee- too expensive, but she made one prediction that happened


Jenniferw- didnt let me hire, but she was accurate and positive she told me it would work, but me and the wife were separating.

Dr.Love- a joke no good for me

Psychic Dee Clair not good for me, was totally wrong.

Judith Kriendal- no good

Nursesuzzane- may I say anymore nope!

Master Z- too much and way off please beware

And many more So I am going to list the ones that gave me acceptable and accurate service and understand that you dont have to spend tons of money cause those are the ones that are usually wrong!

Jenniferw- acceptable
Psychic reader Leslie- in one single reading all predictions happen and she is only at .90 a min and no 5 stars
Alexander- wonderful
Psychic Maiden- half of what she said happen.
SHining love was fairly new when I went to her and yes she was very accurate, off a little with the time frame, but what she said occured with my ex a month ago.
Amber's light
Nythar cannot remember the last name some of her details were right.
Reflective Soul was good

Robin isnt as bad as they make him he was actually good and I did have a session with him.


There are many more but I thought I would add my .2

Ciao!
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#94 Consumer Comment

Jh - you are 'allowed' to support readers

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

They are not ALL fakes (although sadly he frauds far outxumber the genuine readers).
Thankyou for your courage in writing that.
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#95 Consumer Comment

Shining Love is WONDERFUL

AUTHOR: Jh - (U.S.A.)

I have to do my own list eventually. I have 4 readers who I think are incredible and amazing, but I came across Shining Love recently by accident. I wasn't intending anymore readings, but she is the most amazing person on Live Person. Every second with her was well worth it, and I'm sure at some point I'll return. As you said, she knew everything. It was almost like the psychics on TV shows. But she just knew it all without info from me, and she is the kindest woman out there. I've had such mixed experiences on LP, too. Some of the top readers were totally wrong, or maybe reading something or someone other than I asked about. I don't know. I'm still processing a lot and trying to figure out where everything goes in the long run for me.

My other top favorite is High Priestess. She is so kind and knew everything without any input from me. And she laid things out so clearly, followed up with me, and is very patient and sweet. A really incredible person.

Some of the readers (as is written about a LOT!) are fakes, then for others I think it depends on who you personally connect with, which is tough as you have to really "shop around" to find someone who wows you.
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#96 UPDATE Employee

EarthShod

AUTHOR: Earthshod - (U.S.A.)

Hello, I am Alexandra, "EarthShod" on LivePerson and owner of the licensed business EarthShod.com in Washington state. I am the individual that this report has denigrated as "fake" and claims that I do not "know anything." I'm afraid that I cannot find a "Caniknowanswers" in my client list and none of my fees have ever been contested on LivePerson by anyone, so I cannot know who you, the dissatisfied customer, could be. The only person who matches what you described gave me an excellent rating. I am quite puzzled and would like to speak to you about a full refund for your session and listen to your feedback about how I can improve as a reader. If you'd like me to try to make things right with you, please contact me at reader@earthshod.com so that we can chat more. Thank you.
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