• Report: #262019

Complaint Review: Kasamba

  • Submitted: Fri, July 20, 2007
  • Updated: Sat, February 26, 2011

  • Reported By:Adelaide Other
Kasamba
http://www.kasamba.com/ Internet U.S.A.

Kasamba: A List Of Psychics That Gave Me Wrong Predictions Some of the people on the list promised certain things would happen with respect to a relationship. They were all wrong. Internet

*Consumer Comment: Time for an IRS audit.

*Consumer Comment: Catatina is now Intuitiv5

*Consumer Comment: to the origional poster of this thread

*Consumer Comment: Personal responsibility

*Consumer Comment: Exactly Karen

*Consumer Suggestion: SIGHS

*Consumer Comment: Kasamba & IRS

*Consumer Comment: Kasamba reports on a 1099 IRS will laugh at you :)

*Consumer Suggestion: Report Kasamba to the IRS

*Consumer Suggestion: They are just after your money

*Consumer Comment: Not all are fakes and phonies on Kasamba!

*Consumer Suggestion: ITS A SHAME!!

*Consumer Comment: I dont get it...

*Consumer Comment: I dont get it...

*Consumer Comment: I dont get it...

*Consumer Comment: oh c'mon Janice

*Consumer Suggestion: Since When?

*Consumer Suggestion: Since When?

*Consumer Suggestion: Since When?

*Author of original report: Kasamba and Homework Assistance

*Consumer Comment: ok I admit it - you made me curious Freya

*Consumer Comment: Listen Freya

*Consumer Comment: A Question.

*Consumer Comment: Thank you Janice

*Author of original report: Thanks Lucy

*Consumer Suggestion: I agree Lucy

*Consumer Comment: Kasamba does leave a lot to be desired

*Consumer Suggestion: The burning Bush, self combust or maybe Janice just exploded?

*Author of original report: you want some proof....here it is

*Author of original report: err so you are going to write the same thing on EVERYONE who filed a ripoff report?

*Consumer Comment: This is truly unbelievable

*Consumer Comment: What is wrong with this picture?

*Author of original report: So I take it you sanction fraud and child abuse...

*Consumer Comment: Media Exposure

*Consumer Comment: Media Exposure

*Consumer Comment: Media Exposure

*Consumer Comment: Media Exposure

*Author of original report: ok brutalben83 you got me...roflmao

*Author of original report: roflmao...over the hill..

*Author of original report: lol..I don't care what you think

*Consumer Comment: Oh please..

*Consumer Suggestion: A nut is a nut is a nut no matter what you coat, cover it with

*Consumer Comment: Questions for Janice

*Author of original report: Clearly you don't have anything better to do

*Consumer Comment: To the nasty Psychic troll that comes here to defend herself under various names! (you know who you are)

*Consumer Suggestion: Janice, Kasamba, Rip Off Report

*Author of original report: You bet it does keep me fired up :)

*Consumer Comment: Go for it Janice

*Author of original report: lol...more research

*Consumer Comment: WE are in the right place TOO.

*Author of original report: lol...bye bye Karen

*Consumer Suggestion: Janice and Kasamba

*Consumer Suggestion: Janice and Kasamba

*Author of original report: You really are clutching at straws

*Consumer Suggestion: Janice and Kasamba

*Author of original report: More incorrect assumptions

*Consumer Suggestion: Janice and Kasamba

*Author of original report: It is sad when people resort to abuse when they are proven wrong

*Consumer Comment: LOLOL

*Consumer Comment: LOLOL

*Consumer Comment: LOLOL

*Consumer Comment: Freya, you have just made things easier for us

*Author of original report: Freya you are demostrating what an idiot you are

*Consumer Comment: As I thought.

*Consumer Comment: I don't trust you Freya

*Consumer Comment: I don't trust you Freya

*Consumer Comment: I don't trust you Freya

*Consumer Comment: I don't trust you Freya

*Consumer Comment: A Question to Janice

*Author of original report: sigh......I actually DO understand 'my issues'

*Consumer Comment: Relax

*Author of original report: Now I am REALLY sick of people who make assumptions about people who were ripped off

*Author of original report: The psychics message board url was deleted by Ripoff

*Author of original report: oh and to answer you questions Susan

*Author of original report: oh and to answer you questions Susan

*Author of original report: errrr - Susan -I got those Tax links and the advice from a psychics message board

*Consumer Comment: Behaviour Observation

*Consumer Comment: Are You Kidding? Grow Up and Accept Your Responsibilities as an Obsessive Complusive Estranged Woman

*Author of original report: Tax fraud website link changed

*Author of original report: The Tax offices DO WANT TO KNOW as do psychic scammer organisations

*Author of original report: More victim blaming

*UPDATE Employee: It is now just beyond a joke.

*UPDATE Employee: It is now just beyond a joke.

*UPDATE Employee: It is now just beyond a joke.

*UPDATE Employee: It is now just beyond a joke.

*Consumer Comment: Thanks for the information on WHAM

*Author of original report: All this just gives me more motivation to expose Kasamba

*UPDATE Employee: Nothing more to say.

*Author of original report: lol..no I am not THAT Janice....whoever she is

*Consumer Comment: My experience with Kasamba

*UPDATE Employee: Rebuttal

*Consumer Comment: Janice is kasamba reader was outed on Wahm posted the same VICTIM Forum Address

*UPDATE Employee: Responsibility lies with client as well as expert

*Author of original report: The majority I saw lead me on, took my money and made excuses

*UPDATE Employee: Of course not; however...

*Author of original report: The ethical ones shouldn't have anything to worry about

*UPDATE Employee: Why do they lie? I'll tell you...

*UPDATE Employee: What a hideous person you truely are.

*Author of original report: so why do the psychics lie to us

*UPDATE Employee: Just look at the FACTS.

*Consumer Comment: Blind faith in ANYTHING is a dangerous proposition.

*Consumer Suggestion: Kasamba, Psychics, and Relationships

*Consumer Comment: We get it!!

*Consumer Suggestion: I'm sorry for your experiences.

*Author of original report: Kasmaba group

*Consumer Comment: Don't waste your energy

*UPDATE Employee: Not at all!

*Consumer Suggestion: We are going to assemble the proof

*Author of original report: link to group for people ripped off by Kasamba

*UPDATE Employee: Again, where's the PROOF?

*Author of original report: This is just the sort of response that I expected from an employee

*Consumer Comment: You are right!

*UPDATE Employee: Oh please.

*UPDATE Employee: Oh please.

*UPDATE Employee: Oh please.

*UPDATE Employee: Oh please.

*Author of original report: I am going to create a website (((link)))

*Author of original report: I am going to create a website (((link)))

*Author of original report: I am going to create a website (((link)))

*Author of original report: re the website

*Author of original report: psychicjunkie

*Consumer Comment: What is the name of the website?

*Consumer Comment: I understand

*Author of original report: Kasamba

*Consumer Comment: Gee, Chris, do you mean I can't use Kasamba Psychics to make a $Zillion in the stock market?

*Consumer Comment: Gee, Chris, do you mean I can't use Kasamba Psychics to make a $Zillion in the stock market?

*Consumer Comment: Gee, Chris, do you mean I can't use Kasamba Psychics to make a $Zillion in the stock market?

*Consumer Comment: Gee, Chris, do you mean I can't use Kasamba Psychics to make a $Zillion in the stock market?

*Consumer Suggestion: Not A Stupid Person?

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I am not a stupid person. I have a high level research job in Health. But I hadn't had a relationship for about 10 years (for a number of reasons).

I got caught into the trap of believing their lies about a relationship that they said would happen.

These psychics were completely wrong about the outcome of it and cost me thousands of dollars over a two year time period.

Moreover, while I only spoke with some of them once or twice, others bled me dry for money because I stupidly believed that their promises that their predictions would 100% happen. Needless to say, their predictions were all wrong.

When I realized I had to walk away from the situation I became very depressed.

I have prepared a list of the psychics that I consulted on Kasamba and who were wrong. While I only had one or two readings with some Kasamba psychics, there was a core group who managed to keep me coming back and taking my money. The list below and the psychics that really took advantage of my vulnerability are marked with **

Master Z **; Ru the Sorcerer **; Psychic Ladriele ** Psychic Princess **; Fruno ** ; Powerful Visions **: Catatina 27 **: Robin Bluedragon; Loreleis visions of Love **; Divine Timing777: A Clear sight with Mina **; The Mirror of Life **; Ishtar; Telpathic reader (used to be called something else) **; Penny C; The Wizard Star; Lovers reunited magically (used to be under differ; nt name); Psychic Witch Seydali; Wonderful Woman; Psychic Chat with Sadina
Auroealis

Janice
Adelaide
Australia

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 07/20/2007 02:46 AM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Kasamba/internet/Kasamba-A-List-Of-Psychics-That-Gave-Me-Wrong-Predictions-Some-of-the-people-on-the-list-262019. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 Consumer Comment

Time for an IRS audit.

AUTHOR: skeptic - (USA)

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"She says she makes between $30-40 K a month on liveperson alone."

I hope she declares it on her tax returns. I think the IRS should do an audit on these "psychics." 
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#2 Consumer Comment

Catatina is now Intuitiv5

AUTHOR: Allison - (U.S.A.)

Liveperson has sunk to new lows by letting this con artist continue on their site.  She used to be "Catatina" and "Catatina27" and scammed her way to the top saying she was on Oprah and the View. Liveperson made her remove those claims along with the fake photos she's known to use.

Theres tons of reports on her here and elsewhere,,,she just changes her name every time she has to hide from them.  She says she makes between $30-40 K a month on liveperson alone. 
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#3 Consumer Comment

to the origional poster of this thread

AUTHOR: Jake - (U.S.A.)

You say you are not stupid? I say Yes you are! seriously if after 2 people couldn't read or get a prediction right most people would have given up and had a friend read them. or go to someone with a money back policy. you have no one to blame but your self here.
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#4 Consumer Comment

Personal responsibility

AUTHOR: Lucy - (Australia)

It is the clients personal responsibility as to whether they choose to use a psychic or not. It is also the clients personal responsibility to warn other potential clients from making the same mistake.

Being given false hope can seriously hurt people. What about the responsibility of the reader who gives that false hope?

Karen, what is it you don't get about this?
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#5 Consumer Comment

Exactly Karen

AUTHOR: S - (United Kingdom)

Personal responsibility lies with each and every fake psychic that defrauds people.

Twist it and turn it as much as you want. It really does not matter a fig.

If a service is offered stating "accurate" readings then if they are not "accurate" then that is in NO WAY the PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY of the client!

I think you understand that really don't you?

Just desperate attempts by fake psychics to keep the scam going.
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#6 Consumer Suggestion

SIGHS

AUTHOR: Karen - (U.S.A.)

PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY!!! KASAMBA THIS, KASAMBA THAT! SIGHS!
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#7 Consumer Comment

Kasamba & IRS

AUTHOR: Freya4 - (U.S.A.)

This is rediculous, how can you report Kasamba to the IRS for not reporting income, when as of early 2007 Kasamba mailed out IRS Tax Forms to EVERY advisor on Kasamba that were mandatory to be filled out and returned, or the experts earnings would be held and their profile suspended?

Every expert on Kasamba as of today, and their earnings, is on file with the IRS.
The ones who did not file the form have been removed from Kasamba.com as experts.

Kasamba also recently mailed out Tax Forms to all advisors to declare their earnings to the IRS.

Kasamba is in full compliance with the IRS and US Tax Laws. I have no idea where people get these assumptions from.
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#8 Consumer Comment

Kasamba reports on a 1099 IRS will laugh at you :)

AUTHOR: Got Me - (Denmark)

kasamba reports all the experts income on 1099's If the expert choses not to report it then IRS will be on their heels.
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#9 Consumer Suggestion

Report Kasamba to the IRS

AUTHOR: Debra - (U.S.A.)

I tried to keep up with this thread, but it got ridiculous with the irrelevant posts and personal insults. For the record, a person can become ADDICTED to anything, including psychics.

Dateline did a story on this very issue. People who were in distress, usually over the death of a loved one, would pay many of thosands of dollars to try to speak with the deceased person.

After I lost my mother, I started calling psychics. I got distracted with life for 5 years and didn't call during that period. Unhappiness creeped back into my life and I started calling again. I called for three years straight. My calls were to Kasamba. NONE and I mean NONE of their predictions came true. It did not matter the price or the reader, NONE of the predictions came true. What the GOOD readers were able to do is tell me something about the present. NONE of the readers could tell me anything about the future.

I, however, sucked up my losses because I knew I was using psychics to entertain myself and have something to look forward to. These psychics make most of their money off "will he call me or will we get together."

When I called and asked legitimate questions about my career or some other issue, they would make something up and it would not even be relevant to the question. The psychics on KASAMBA are fake.

I admire Janice for trying to bring attention to this issue - psychic addiction. The way she should do this is contact DATELINE and other news programs that spotlight addictions. The yahoogroup is not the way to go because people are embarrassed by their PSYCHIC ADDICTION.

When someone tells another person they called a psychic, the immediate response is that the person is crazy. I think posting ripoffreports is a fine way to vent, but don't expect any media coverage from a ripoffreport.

Janice, if you want to accomplish some things with this issue, these are my recommendations:

1. Contact the US IRS tax service and report Kasamba for suspected fraudulent activity regarding unreported income or failure to fully document the income derived from its psychics.

2. If you know the true name of the psychic who defrauded you, contact the IRS and report that person.

3. If you have truly been defrauded (i.e., not just your prediction did not come true), contact the Federal Trade Commission and report the site for being fraudulent.

4. DO NOT SPEND ANY MORE MONEY on KASAMBA.

5. Find ways to fill your life--volunteer, church, counselling, etc..

Now, for all the naysayers who believe in psychics, this should let you know they are fake.

On July 25, 2006, I called 5 Kasamba psychics on that day and asked each and every one of them if they had any predictions good or bad. They all told me that I would meet a new guy--blah, blah, blah. On July 26, 2006, I found out my brother had died on July 25, 2006. If these people were truly psychic, couldn't they have clued me in on the death.

You would think I would have stopped calling psychics after not receiving that prediction, but I kept calling and guess why: IT IS AN ADDICTION!

Janice admitted she had an addiction and she was attacked. This is how psychic sites get over on people. People don't get help because people automatically attack them for contacting psychics in the first place.

Anyway, the ridiculous nature of calling psychics is evident in this thread and all the threads about Kasamba. I pray that Kasamba is eventually shut down. THe people it is hurting the most are the people mentally and financially unable to deal with the hurt caused by the FAKE PSYCHICS on that site.
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#10 Consumer Suggestion

They are just after your money

AUTHOR: Genell - (U.S.A.)

Those people are not really concerned about your life. They just want to make money off of people in time of need. I advice you to seek Jesus and pray about who your soul mate should be. There is somebody for everybody, but you are going about things all wrong.
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#11 Consumer Comment

Not all are fakes and phonies on Kasamba!

AUTHOR: Fakes - (U.S.A.)

Janice, I have been coming here for a little over a month reading the comments posted by you and the consumers! Basically you filed this report because you felt conned by a psychics on Kasamba you gave a list of experts who have conned you and fed you lies, You also mentioned that you kept going back to them because you could not control your self! Anyways I have started to feel the same about report.com have to come back here everyday ...mornings and nights to read the comments! its like i have become addicted as well! Ihave been comming here for at least over a month now! just as you janice keep coming back here to file comments! "Addiction" and Obsessive behavior can be somthing so simple it does not always have to drugs or achohol! some people become addicted or obsessive to psychics,chatrooms, gambeling, caffine, ext, ext, anyways i am sure you get the picture here! now i feel it is my time to leave a comment i copied your list of psychics and went to check them out on kasamba of course i can't afford to call them all... so i decided to do some research on them and you, I notice allthese experts are on the first page of kasamba very high reveiws and ratings some very expensive some not so bad they are pretty much all five star psychics and i went ahead and check there reveiws out. what does not make sense to me, is your comment that you made on here! You Clearly stated on here Janice That none of there predictions have come to pass or true!

when i did a searched on the expert that you listed janice I saw the comments that you made in their reveiw's You clearly liked them Janice! And left 5 star ratings for them and even said that of their predictions have come to pass! and that you have seen results allready! Well that don't sound to me like some one was lead on Especially when you cleary state the predictions have come to pass and you saw results already! So that now paints a different picture for me! and now i wonder about everything you have been saying in your comments on here and if i can really believe everything you are saying.. its diiferent when you say none of there predictions came true.... but when i read a comment you left for the expert saying for everyone to see that there predictions have already come true and you have seen results already! Cleary states to me that you have other Motives for doing this! maybe you are another psychic on kasamba like others have said that is out to get these people on your list... i dont know janice what your true intentions are but everyone please go to kasamba search thesae advisors and read the comments she left!!!
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#12 Consumer Suggestion

ITS A SHAME!!

AUTHOR: Karen - (U.S.A.)

Its a shame that Janice is all over this thread! NOTHING LIKE A ATTENTION HOG! Perhaps its time we start to ignore this Janice and her posts because its becoming painfully clear she LIVES for attention considering she doesn't get much of it in her offline life. Go ahead and post about how much attention your are getting offline Janice. You are very very predictable!
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#13 Consumer Comment

I dont get it...

AUTHOR: S - (United Kingdom)

Carolyn,

What point dont you get.

To compare fraud and scamming with dunking doughnuts and smoking is quite frankly a joke!!

Its as simple as that. I for one am not going to respond with a long winded reply to match your long winded report because frankly your text doesnt warrent it.

If you have issues with the state of affairs in your country, get off your backside and be PRO-ACTIVE about changing things.

Change is implemented by people Carolyn. Whether it be politics, saving the environment or challenging fraudulent people and fraudulent companies.

And if along the way you uncover other nasty little bug bears associated with your pro-activness - dont ignore it DO SOMETHING!!!

And if you dont want to do anything but moan and whinge....dont attack people that do!

You say you are not a Kasamba Psychic? I am not so sure, why would you want to bother to write such a long report to something that you have no interest in one way or another?

Why are YOU so bothered?

I wish I knew the answer to those questions. God...I wish I was psychic lol
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#14 Consumer Comment

I dont get it...

AUTHOR: S - (United Kingdom)

Carolyn,

What point dont you get.

To compare fraud and scamming with dunking doughnuts and smoking is quite frankly a joke!!

Its as simple as that. I for one am not going to respond with a long winded reply to match your long winded report because frankly your text doesnt warrent it.

If you have issues with the state of affairs in your country, get off your backside and be PRO-ACTIVE about changing things.

Change is implemented by people Carolyn. Whether it be politics, saving the environment or challenging fraudulent people and fraudulent companies.

And if along the way you uncover other nasty little bug bears associated with your pro-activness - dont ignore it DO SOMETHING!!!

And if you dont want to do anything but moan and whinge....dont attack people that do!

You say you are not a Kasamba Psychic? I am not so sure, why would you want to bother to write such a long report to something that you have no interest in one way or another?

Why are YOU so bothered?

I wish I knew the answer to those questions. God...I wish I was psychic lol
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#15 Consumer Comment

I dont get it...

AUTHOR: S - (United Kingdom)

Carolyn,

What point dont you get.

To compare fraud and scamming with dunking doughnuts and smoking is quite frankly a joke!!

Its as simple as that. I for one am not going to respond with a long winded reply to match your long winded report because frankly your text doesnt warrent it.

If you have issues with the state of affairs in your country, get off your backside and be PRO-ACTIVE about changing things.

Change is implemented by people Carolyn. Whether it be politics, saving the environment or challenging fraudulent people and fraudulent companies.

And if along the way you uncover other nasty little bug bears associated with your pro-activness - dont ignore it DO SOMETHING!!!

And if you dont want to do anything but moan and whinge....dont attack people that do!

You say you are not a Kasamba Psychic? I am not so sure, why would you want to bother to write such a long report to something that you have no interest in one way or another?

Why are YOU so bothered?

I wish I knew the answer to those questions. God...I wish I was psychic lol
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#16 Consumer Comment

oh c'mon Janice

AUTHOR: Carolyn - (U.S.A.)

Now I am a psychic that abuses people? Stop going off the deep end. Seems that when you don't like what someone says to you, you go off half cocked and accuse them of something. This doesn't say much for your credibility.

Now you are going off on this company for other alleged offenses. I thought you were filing this report because you felt conned by a psychic. This is what I see. It's very simple. You kept going to these psychics because you couldn't control yourself. You spent a lot of money. You are now upset because your money is gone, you know you shouldn't have blown all this money as it could have been better spent elsewhere. You have to blame someone so you blame this company. Why can't you take any personal responsibility for your actions? Sorry but I am so sick of this garbage. From smokers who sue tobacco companies because they have lung cancer to consumers who sue Dunkin Donuts because they got burned from the hot coffee. Duh...smoking is bad for you and coffee is hot. Sheesh, just this week I received a notice in the mail that I was part of a class action suit because a loan company supposedly sent me a solicitation in the mail and they didn't fully disclose the loan terms. I didn't contact them for a loan. I don't remember getting any junk mail from this company, but then again I get a ton of it and don't even look at it. I just shred it. But yet, someone, looking for money, decides to file a class action suit, so the attornies can get even more wealthy while the so called clients of the suit get a check for $1.50 after all is said and done. It's disgusting what is going on in this country. That's why we have such an intrusive government. People can't take personal responsibility for their actions so we have to have all these intrusion to protect ourselves from ourselves. No thanks.

If other customers of Kasamba have problems with them, let them deal with those problems. They are not of your concern. At the very least, stick with whatever your problem is with them. Dragging others' complaints into your complaint takes away from any credibility you do have, which isn't much to begin with, sorry. (I am not a huge believer in psychics and of course know the vast majority of them are scam artists. Most people do know that Janice. How could you not?)

My advice is to get on with your life and drop this silly rant. Put it in proper perspective and next time think twice before you freely give your money to any quack that turns up online. Ever heard of caveat emptor? Get some common sense why don't you.
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#17 Consumer Suggestion

Since When?

AUTHOR: Ann - (U.S.A.)

First off this whole thread looks like it belongs on a private message board, basically what I got out of reading this whole thread is someone/ many people have been ripped off by psycics.. ok good theres the reason for filing the rip off report should have stopped right there. but no...it didn't it turned into a bunch of 'children' fighting on a school yard and now I find it hard to believe if anything on this thread was true at all! Sounds like Janet had a problem with a psycic and someone else had trouble with someone hitting on their underage daughter which I read somewhere this kasamba site isn't supposed to have anyone under 18 on it so who's to say (granted still unethical) He didn't know he was flirting with 14year old? I get the impression theres a lot of ticked off people but your not doing the public any good in the name calling and arguing . ROR is supposed to be a place where you list your complaint end of story bickering makes your claim look like vengeance instead of trying to inform the public.
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#18 Consumer Suggestion

Since When?

AUTHOR: Ann - (U.S.A.)

First off this whole thread looks like it belongs on a private message board, basically what I got out of reading this whole thread is someone/ many people have been ripped off by psycics.. ok good theres the reason for filing the rip off report should have stopped right there. but no...it didn't it turned into a bunch of 'children' fighting on a school yard and now I find it hard to believe if anything on this thread was true at all! Sounds like Janet had a problem with a psycic and someone else had trouble with someone hitting on their underage daughter which I read somewhere this kasamba site isn't supposed to have anyone under 18 on it so who's to say (granted still unethical) He didn't know he was flirting with 14year old? I get the impression theres a lot of ticked off people but your not doing the public any good in the name calling and arguing . ROR is supposed to be a place where you list your complaint end of story bickering makes your claim look like vengeance instead of trying to inform the public.
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#19 Consumer Suggestion

Since When?

AUTHOR: Ann - (U.S.A.)

First off this whole thread looks like it belongs on a private message board, basically what I got out of reading this whole thread is someone/ many people have been ripped off by psycics.. ok good theres the reason for filing the rip off report should have stopped right there. but no...it didn't it turned into a bunch of 'children' fighting on a school yard and now I find it hard to believe if anything on this thread was true at all! Sounds like Janet had a problem with a psycic and someone else had trouble with someone hitting on their underage daughter which I read somewhere this kasamba site isn't supposed to have anyone under 18 on it so who's to say (granted still unethical) He didn't know he was flirting with 14year old? I get the impression theres a lot of ticked off people but your not doing the public any good in the name calling and arguing . ROR is supposed to be a place where you list your complaint end of story bickering makes your claim look like vengeance instead of trying to inform the public.
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#20 Author of original report

Kasamba and Homework Assistance

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

Kasamba even has a catagory called 'Homework Assistance" with sub categories starting at elementary school. I don't know the system in the USA but isn't that like really young children Freya...Tell me, as I actually don't know but is elementary school say a 10 year old. Now we know Kasamba edits the ratings but the Mom's don't know this. How much responsibility is a 10 year old supposed to have. I

t is easy to say the parents should supervise but my experience with my 10 year Godson is that they don't always tell their parents everything. How easy is it to gain the trust of a ten year old if someone promises to do their homework while they play with those xbox thingy's. My Godson has one and to say he'd rather play with it than do his homework is an understatement? He or she may know not to talk to strangers but do you think a 10 year old has enough maturity to mistrust someone they consider to be a teacher?

Goodbye Freya!!!!
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#21 Consumer Comment

ok I admit it - you made me curious Freya

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

The question is why is kasamba allowing a tutor called 'homework help' and others with profiles that specifically mention help with schoolwork? I thought MOST people at school would be under the age of 18. Certainly in this country they are (and many others).

It appears to be just another of Kasamba's push for money. They will advertise these services and then hide behind the terms of agreement if there is any problem.

This is absolutely my last post to you...so I thankyou for the information.
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#22 Consumer Comment

Listen Freya

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

It is NOT intended to be just a question. I am NOT going to give you anymore information or 'proof' or whatever. I have nothing to prove to you. For awhile I found it quite amusing to read all the post dripping with venom and making all sorts of insane assumptions.

However, I have had a long couple of weeks as we are trying to finish some major publications and I have been working long hours. That is the nature of my job. although I basically work 40 hours a week and never work weekends (I say that because I was accused of working all the time or something in some post) but sometimes it is necessary to put in a bit more time.

So why don't you give it a rest huh. This is my last reply to your postings as you are clearly out to cause trouble. You can come back with whatever you want but I am sooo over you and your abuse and trying to get at me. I will do what I intend to do. There is absolutley no reason why I should answer ANY of your questions especially when you are an abusive, petty and vindictive person.

What are YOU doing focussing on this anyway. Do YOU not have a life? It is beyond me why you want to spend any time trying to abuse someone.
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#23 Consumer Comment

A Question.

AUTHOR: Freya4 - (U.S.A.)

Janice just in regards to your claim about the minor and the expert on Kasamba, may I just ask a question, and this in all honosty a true question, but what was a mother doing letting her 14 year old daughter use a website thats Terms of Service strictly claim that no one under the age of 18 is permitted to register an account on?

If you read the Kasamba T.O.S you can plainly see that one of their most strict rules is that no minors are permitted to use Kasamba, so I am interested in knowing why this parent has willingly allowed her daughter to use a website that is strictly intended for an 18+ audience only?

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#24 Consumer Comment

Thank you Janice

AUTHOR: Lucy - (Australia)

I do consider myself a rational person and I also care very much for other people. But I won't accept your invitation to join your group because I'm thinking that I need to move on from this myself. But thank you anyway and I hope you have some degree of success, in whatever form that may take.
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#25 Author of original report

Thanks Lucy

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

You know people who had problems with Kasmaba psychics are not the only ones who read these reports. When I get emails from moms who are considering moving their whole family to another town in the USA because they are afraid of a tutor their daughter used it really scares me. The 14 year old daughter thought that because the person was highly rated he was trustworthy. Apparently the tutor lived in the next state and said he was going to take some holidays. (no more details needed).

This DOES take up energy that I could use elsewhere but I think it is worth it. I have put aside a specific amount of time for this and maybe I won't 'get anywhere' but I have to try.

I honestly, don't care about the idiots who are abusive but I answer them for one reason - that it brings people who have been victims to me with information. They see that I am serious and staying connected to the situation and I thank them for that (although i am SURE that is NOT their intention..lol).

I don't have a problems with disclosing my identity. In fact, one of the first things I do is send an email from my work address (a hospital) and they are welcome to check. It is a public hospital and not that difficult to find out who are staff.

As you know things are a lot different in our country. We have a mandatory system of reporting child abuse and consumers and consumer groups are pivotal to policy-making. A man just recently won a huge settlement because he was one of the 'Stolen Generation'. They told him he couldn't do it.

But you are correct in that it does take up energy. I have a specific plan in mind and I am about three quaters the way to implementing it. If it doesn't work then I accept it and move on. However, I know that I have tried and that is the important thing. You should join us because your comments have always been well thought out and rational. If you email through the yahoo group it goes staight to me.
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#26 Consumer Suggestion

I agree Lucy

AUTHOR: Got Me - (Denmark)

I agree Lucy, as with everything in this world there is the good, the bad and the ugly. I honestly think Janice's intentions are good, even if obsessive. Its really sad actually to read/watch a mental melt down. I hope you find peace Janice. some how somewhere. God go with you.
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#27 Consumer Comment

Kasamba does leave a lot to be desired

AUTHOR: Lucy - (Australia)

Kasamba is not morally and socially responsible, they are a money making business. I had a bad experience with a reader, which I did not discover until after I had rated her, and she was very expensive. I asked Kasamba to change the rating, however they never did, after repeated requests from me.

In another case I had a reading where the prediction came true and asked them to change the rating to reflect how accurate the reader was. They did change the rating, immediately.

Kasamba, the organisation, is just a money making machine who doesnt care who gets hurt in their pursuit of the dollar. Janice is obviously taking this more seriously than most would, maybe that's because she cares about people more than most others do. I don't necessarily support Janice in what she is doing, however I do understand where she is coming from and agree that Kasamba is socially irresponsible and getting very wealthy on the backs of whoever comes in contact with them - experts and clients.

I don't understand how you all can put Janice down when she is a victim of Kasamba and is trying to help others avoid the same trap. Isn't that what this forum is about? Janice, I hope you will be able to move on from this at some stage because it's obviously taking up a lot of your energy. It would be good to see your efforts make a difference, but I doubt it will. There will always be other suckers come along believing they are getting what they pay for - in the meantime Kasamba will get richer and more people will get hurt by the scammers on there.
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#28 Consumer Suggestion

The burning Bush, self combust or maybe Janice just exploded?

AUTHOR: Got Me - (Denmark)

When Janice gets over this latest manic episode all will get quiet again and we can go back to rational threads and posts. If you smell smoke, see fire.....don't call 911
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#29 Author of original report

you want some proof....here it is

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

I have saved you the trouble of looking it up. Read these and tell me I am just addict (I actually don't drink, smoke or use anything although I am fanatical about health so maybe I am..lol) or am enraged about Kasamba practices.

Here are some posts. The first from the scamfraudalert site:

Is Kasamba a scam? Yes and No
Kasamba is not a complete scam, but it is a very dangerous place, especially for young women! Buyers need to beware! Parents needed to watch out for predators on the Kasamba site. Do not expect Kasamba to vet these experts at all, or even to remove someone who has proved to be verbally abusive to minor-aged women.

I'm a stay-at-home mom who homeschools her teenage daughters, and I really wanted some extra income. When I saw an ad for Kasamba, I joined up. Now I really need a forum to vent my concerns as a mother.

So is Kasamba a scam?

Here are the reasons the answer is "yes":
> Kasamba ignores complaints from customers about ***ual harassment and threats of physical abuse. I know that some Kasamba customers have been threatened with physical violence of a ***ual nature if they didn't give their "expert" a good review. And, that so-called "expert" is **still** a Kasamba expert! The women involved have complained to Kasamba repeatedly, with no response at all from Kasamba. I know, and they know, that Kasamba keeps transcripts of all correspondence, so they have incontrovertible proof that there was wrong-doing, but Kasamba ignores it. This site is used by minors, and this kind of conduct not only is reprehensible, it really scares me.

> Male experts on Kasamba often ask female clients on dates or ask ***ually suggestive questions. I know this because once they are hit on, they come looking for a female tutor. Again, not only is this reprehensible, but for grown men to hit on under-age girls is really disgusting.

> Kasamba doesn't vet their experts in any way. I have a Masters degree and 20 years of experience in my field, and teaching experience to boot, but Kasamba makes no effort to verify what someone tells them.

> Kasamba experts are often not really experts. I often get requests from other Kasamba experts who need help in answering customer questions. As an example, one of the experts wanted me to help him with a statistics formula that is very basic to statistics. Out of curiosity, I looked up the formula in my old statistics textbook, and it was on page 57 of a 700 page text. It is completely impossible for this man to have never heard of this procedure if he had ever taken a college-level statistics class, and hes on Kasamba helping people with their statistics homework.

> Kasamba does edit the ratings, throwing out unusually bad ratings. Also, if you are so disgusted with an expert that you refuse to pay, then your rating is thrown out automatically. Both of these bias the entire rating process to the positive side. Bottom line: If the expert has anything less than a 4.5 star rating, you should avoid that person. Read the comments people have left and make sure you are hiring someone reliable.

> On the ethical side of things, I often get requests of "please do my homework for me." Tutoring is one thing, but having a way out of your homework (if you have the money) is a bad thing. Most Kasamba experts have no problems with doing someone else's homework instead of trying to help them to do it on their own.

Here are the reasons the answer is "no":
> I average $200 a week working from my computer, working part-time, and basically working when I want to work.
> I do get paid by Kasamba after they take their 30% cut from my fees. The percentage seems high, but it's still $200 a week in my pocket that I would not have otherwise.
> The people I help seem very genuinely happy to have received my help. (I've had no customer complaints against me personally.)


My advice ---
Read the customer reviews. Make sure the expert you choose will be reliable. Dont give out any personal information to the experts until youve developed a relationship with them and youre sure you can trust them (this includes your email address).

I have met many nice people through Kasamba, both as clients and other experts on the site. If you have the skills that people are looking for, then Kasamba will provide a way for you to get in touch with people who need your help. You have to be persistent at the beginning to build up a client base just as with any other kind of service business, but there is money to be made for the right person.

By the way, when I do a web search on Kasamba, most of the complaints are about the psychics on Kasamba. I can't speak at all as to whether or not any of the psychics are real or not. I am not a psychic, but an expert listed under "education and tutoring," so I can only speak about non-psychic experts on the Kasamba site.


This is another post i found written by a staff member of Kasamba:

I fully agree that kasamba is still earning big bucks, last month alone they earned over 600$USD from my actt alone, and i was on the 3 - 4th page. can you imagine what they are earning on the 1st page and highest paying? One expert contact me and told me how 'they' were earning $4,000.00 a month take home pay and they were complaining that kasamba took off so much on top of that. This same expert also explained that they have welfare and social insurance monies coming in each month and they rely on this money to survive and they felt ripped off from this act from kasamba. (mind you this same person is often listed in the rippoffreports. quite often but this same person that had contact me, changed their mind when i explained i'm a loner and wish not to know their problems and placed them on block.

It sickens me to the point that one day while viewing the board, i saw a expert under the annos. name asking for a trade. well i responded to it and then placed them too on a temp block, just to find out it was the same expert that was complaining about kasamba? so i told them...you make me feel like puking on you! You make us true psychics clean up your messes...this same 'so called top psychic said' money money money....in the rich mans world - it aint funny - so cry and weap you won't get the fansy stuff i got!

and this one by a client:

The readers who ripped me off were Psychic Solutions by Jazz and Kimberly Hope, aka Lily Kim.

After contacting Kasamba, Jazz had to return about 700 dollars of the money I sent her...

Lily Kim has never returned the money..she conned me out of 25 thousand dollars..

So why is Jazz still working there?. Why do they ignore reports of abuse against minors. Why is a 'top expert' also getting social security and laughing that it is all about money?

YOU tell me that THIS does not make you angry and I will tell you that you are inhuman!!
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#30 Author of original report

err so you are going to write the same thing on EVERYONE who filed a ripoff report?

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

lol..go ahead ....In case you hadn't noticed that is the purpose of this site. Why don't you then go and read the other reports on Kasamba. Or maybe you are a Kasamba psychic who just want to abuse people.

While you're at it read the scamfraudalert post about the failure of Kasamba to deal with threats of violence and abuse against minors. It is easy to find as it was written by an employee on January 24th 2007.

IF you read it you come back and tell me what you think ..ok? Or maybe you think a company that enables those sort of practices is a good company.
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#31 Consumer Comment

This is truly unbelievable

AUTHOR: Carolyn - (U.S.A.)

I am sitting here shaking my head over this situation. Janice, you need professional help alright, but not from a psychic. Try seeking out the help of a psychiatrist or psychologist. Your rantings on here are making you appear to be psychotic.

I care for two elderly and very ill parents myself. My mother is in mid stage Alzheimer's and my father is nearing end stage Parkinson's. My father also has over 95% blockage in his coronary arteries. On top of that I have my own home, family and run two businesses. You know what though? The world is a stressful place to live and we ALL have our own problems. We all could claim we are vulnerable and use it as an excuse if we blow our money on-
Drugs
Gambling
Pornography
Alcohol
Compulsive shopping sprees
etc....
The list is long, so take your pick. You CHOSE to blow money on psychics. Now that you feel pretty stupid for your choice and your actions, you want to try and take down a company? Give me a break. What's next? Are you going to take up drinking, drive to the liquor store every night, load up on booze, spend thousands of dollars there within a couple months time and then claim they took advantage of you with their pretty window banners reeling you in to purchase thier brew?

If you are that gullible to think that some psychic is going to be 100% accurate in their so called predictions, you are kind of pathetic. Any complaint you file will be thrown right out of any agency. Go ahead, try and do a chargeback on your credit card, and find out what they will tell you. You freely paid for the advertised service. They delivered. You have no recourse, period. Besides that, anyone in their right mind knows that psychic phenomena is not a proven science. If you wish to utilize the services of a psychic, that's your choice. They are not medical doctors, which requires years of schooling, licensing and is backed by science. They are not lawyers, which also requires years of schooling, licensing, passing the boards, and is backed by the law. They are not auto mechanics, which requires education, certification in most cases, licensing (again) and requires that your vehicle is repaired to your satisfaction. You are dealing with a service that many, many people don't even believe in! Sylvia Brown even told the family of that boy who had been kidnapped and held for 7 years that he was dead and buried near a tree. He turned up very much alive when the cops were looking for another boy who had been recently abducted. So obviously, even the famous psychics can be wrong. What don't you understand about this?

You my dear, are an addict and it's just as real as any drug or alcohol addiction. You might as well own it, and stop blaming your addiction on those who provided your drug of choice. I wish people would start taking personal responsibility for their actions and stop blaming every one else for their own bad behavior.

Your rantings are silly, outrageous and pathetic. The more you write, the more foolish you appear. The problem for you, is that your rantings just may get you involved in litigation that you are not going to like. This company could very well sue YOU for libel. You had better be very careful what you say. When you start making accusations and mention the IRS, you had better have proof IN HAND. You are in essence accusing this company of tax evasion. It better be true or you could end up paying mucho money in damages, court costs and attorney fees. Then, instead of eating your loss because of your addiction, you could be eating every penny you have ever earned as well as wage garnishments on future earnings. Do you really want to chance this? Is it worth it to you?

Now grow up, accept your responsibility for blowing your money on psychics, lick your wounds and get on with your life, preferably with the help of a real professional PSYCHIATRIST.
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#32 Consumer Comment

What is wrong with this picture?

AUTHOR: Lucy - (Australia)

Isn't this about making other people aware of the fake psychics? It's not about abusing each other - unless of course you are a fake psychic.

I would encourage anyone who has been ripped off by a particular psychic to list them here so others know not to bother with them. But attacking each other - that's not what this forum is about.

And if you've had a good experience with a psychic then why not say that too because they're not all out to take advantage of you.
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#33 Author of original report

So I take it you sanction fraud and child abuse...

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

Have a look at the scamfraudalert site at the post by an employee of Kasamba posted on January 24th 2007.

I guess you believe in covering all that up.

lol. I don't have an obsessive compulsive disorder. I asked my shrink. roflmao. I sought help when I was depressed. It worked. I see him monthly now because I like and trust him.

Depression happens to a lot of people. There is nothing wrong with it. Abuse in any shape or form is wrong. The abusive people who respond to this post are far sicker than I ever was.
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#34 Consumer Comment

Media Exposure

AUTHOR: Got Me - (Denmark)

Janice I do agree that you do need to expose ALL of this to the media........but your success would lie in presenting it to BBC Comedy or else the Medical Channel could use it for a case study on obsessive, compulsive, manic disorders.
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#35 Consumer Comment

Media Exposure

AUTHOR: Got Me - (Denmark)

Janice I do agree that you do need to expose ALL of this to the media........but your success would lie in presenting it to BBC Comedy or else the Medical Channel could use it for a case study on obsessive, compulsive, manic disorders.
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#36 Consumer Comment

Media Exposure

AUTHOR: Got Me - (Denmark)

Janice I do agree that you do need to expose ALL of this to the media........but your success would lie in presenting it to BBC Comedy or else the Medical Channel could use it for a case study on obsessive, compulsive, manic disorders.
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#37 Consumer Comment

Media Exposure

AUTHOR: Got Me - (Denmark)

Janice I do agree that you do need to expose ALL of this to the media........but your success would lie in presenting it to BBC Comedy or else the Medical Channel could use it for a case study on obsessive, compulsive, manic disorders.
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#38 Author of original report

ok brutalben83 you got me...roflmao

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

I was trying to figure out what it was about your post that bothered me. Normally the insults don't worry me. I figured it out!!! It was the 'over the hill' bit that I found mildly insulting. I admit that you got me where it hurts - my vanity.

According to the Centre for Disease Control you live in a state with the one of the highest levels of obesity (and hence lack of fitness and poor health) in the USA. I STILL do several triathlons each summer. I presume you know what a triathlon entails. Of course, I could never adequately compete against a teenager because one of the issues of 'middle age'...lol...is the need to be cognisant of old injuries and, let's face it, we get slower.

However, your depiction of me of a depressed 'old frump' in lace up shoes and twinsets is so not true.....roflmao....Maybe I do need to go back on the couch because I am paranoid about losing my fitness. I have even been banned from the gym for turning up on crutches. I figured I could do upper body weights but they threw some silly OH&S laws at me and sent me packing till my ankle was better.

I have been to the US and I was frankly appalled at the high levels of obesity. I found out that my best option was to stay in places that provided the use of a kitchen because I just couldn't eat the food. I am sure there are restaurants that serve healthy food but I was not able to find any. I just couldn't eat fast food. I don't eat fat or sugar and am vegetarian so my choices were limited.

I may have been vulnerable to the psychics but, from what I have found out about some of the practices and some of the psychics on Kasamba, I am not surprised people get conned. I am NOT abdicating my responsibility. Kasamba supports a number of practices that are certainly immoral and maybe illegal. Just read the reports and perhaps learn to refrain from making false assumptions.

Apart from insulting my vanity ...lol...(am laughing at myself) I am not at all bothered by anything that people like you and Freya and the others write. I wonder why you feel the need to try and hurt and insult people. I am not depressed but what if I was? Why do you want to hurt someone who may have been badly hurt and is depressed? What good does it do? It is beyond me why people like you and Freya try to hurt people. Does it make you feel good? Do you some perverted pleasure from kicking people when they are down? If you do you have far more problems than I ever had. I may have been gullible, vulnerable or stupid or whatever. But I would NEVER try and kick someone when they are down.

It is irrelevant whether you hurt me (you didn't ...just insulted my vanity...I admit it...lol). The fact is that you tried and that makes you a cruel person. Or maybe your not so cruel as small-minded. I don't know you. But I do know that someone who assumes a person is depressed and then tries to hurt them definitely has something wrong with them. Like I said to Freya, the insults demonstrate more about your personality than mine. Usually, when people try to hurt people it is an indication of some deficiency in their life. They need to feel powerful so they try and pick upon vulnerable people. It really is not a good look.
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#39 Author of original report

roflmao...over the hill..

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

I read brutalbens post quickly at work and posted a reply. Then I thought about and it is amazing how low people will stoop. Firstly, I do have PhD and I cannot spell. I have a mild form of dyslexia so thank goodness for spell checks.

I am busy so I usually write the posts in a hurry, hence the grammar. I was depressed but I sought therapy early and pulled out of it fairly quickly. I am NOT depressed now. If I were I would not be laughing at the posts on this thread. I would not have the energy to gather information on Kasamba. Anyone who knows anything about mental health knows that depression saps one's energy. If you don't believe me look it up. It is not that hard to do because there is plenty of information on the web on the symptoms of depression.

As for middle-aged, well yes I am if you look at the life expectancy for females in the developed world. But try telling that to my gym trainer. She would just say 'care factor'. She is mean ...lol.....Believe me there is NOTHING like the feeling of fitness and I still wear the same size clothes that I wore at aged 20.

My parents lost their other daughter tragically. They were not young when I was born and my mother had two children in succession. They deserve a few years of my life. They helped me out when I started my degrees as a mature aged student.

I am not going to say anything about the area in which I work for obvious reasons. However, I have published in journals, presented papers in in several different countries and written chapters in books.

I read posts such as yours and I find it really helpful. I realise that I am not bitter or abusive nor do I have the need to try to trash someone because they report a ripoff.

Honestly, I don't know why you bother. It won't upset me, deter me or frighten me. I am going to do what I plan so you are just wasting your time. It seems that YOU are twisted and angry and bitter. I know that I am not. I was depressed and sad but I got over it. Maybe YOU need a little time on the couch.

I must say that reading the derogatory posts makes me glad that I am an optimist. I have a legitimate complaint. You are just abusive and abusive people are pitiful.
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#40 Author of original report

lol..I don't care what you think

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

I really don't care. You clearly don't know the facts. You can think and say what you want and it won't have any impact upon me or the others. They know that I am legitimate and that is all that counts.
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#41 Consumer Comment

Oh please..

AUTHOR: S - (United Kingdom)

Your post is the most PATRONISING and IRRELEVANT thing I for one have read.

You speak "such concern" but your fangs are sharp and glistening.

Which can only mean one thing

FAKE PSYCHIC!!

I am just waiting to read a post from the kasamba psychics that actually addresses the complaints and concerns head on.

I have a feeling that I am in for a long wait......
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A nut is a nut is a nut no matter what you coat, cover it with

AUTHOR: Got Me - (Denmark)

A yahoo group for gathering info to take to the media with ONLY 2 members? All the other forums, sites have monitors that delete this kind of trash, venmon from obvious nut cases so its the PERFECT platform for Janice. She can rant, rave, threaten and continue with her obsessive compulsive sick behaviors until the cows come home but boy those cows leave some nasty stuff behind them.

This is better than BBC comedy :) Anyone that reads the ongoing rants cant take this seriously. I always get my joke for the day with my morning coffee right here reading Janice's latest rant/rave/bash/threats. Janice got any new material??? this is getting a bit old.

What a joke.....about the only media coverage you may get out of this crap is on The Comedy Hour
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AUTHOR: Brutalben83 - (U.S.A.)

Janice,

First of all, sorry to nitpick, but would you mind telling us all where you got your PhD and in what field? I'm sorry, but your spelling and grammar is atrocious most of the time, and the way you conduct yourself just doesn't seem befitting of a professional researcher. What exactly is it that you research?

Secondly, I'm really sorry that you got sucked into this scam, and that you wasted so much money, and had to go through all this pain and depression. On the other hand though, I find it hard to fathom how an educated, professional person such as yourself could fall into this type of scam.

Do you want to know why you're having problems finding a relationship right now?

1. You're middle-aged, perhaps even more "over the hill" then middle-aged (yes, this is an assumption, but since you freely admit that you spend much of your time caring for your elderly parents, I think it's a fair assumption).

2. Your career is stressful, and it probably requires long hours.

3. You also spend a lot of your free time caring for your elderly parents, which doesn't leave you much time for socializing.

4. You admit to being depressed. And I'm not blaming you here, I'd probably be pretty depressed in your situation as well.

Now considering all these things, ask yourself this: "would I want to date myself?"

The obvious answer is no!

People don't want to deal with other people's baggage. I realize that a 100% baggage-free relationship is an impossibility, but most people turn towards relationships as an outlet for happiness, an escape from the stresses of their own lives. No one wants a relationship with someone who's constantly plagued by stress and depression.

Is this selfish? Maybe. But then again, people have a right to seek their own happiness.

Anyways, the point I'm trying to make here is that you don't need psychic powers to see whats wrong in your life and why you're having trouble finding and maintaining a long-term relationship. I just don't understand how a person as highly educated and highly professional (and in the medical field even!) as you claim to be could put any type of stock whatsoever into psychic readings.

Did you never ever consider that putting some of your money towards hiring a helper to assist you with the care of your parents or placing them in a quality nursing facility (thereby taking some stress off of you and freeing up your time for other things) might have been a better choice then spending $4,000 for "The Great Zulu" (or whatever the hell his name was) to look into his crystal ball and tell you that your knight in shining armor is just over the hillside???

Yes, I agree that Freya and others on this site aren't being very nice to you, but what they're saying is completely true. Any reputable psychic services company is going to have a legal disclaimer stating that their services are for entertainment only, and that no predictions made by the psychics are guaranteed in any way. Not only does this absolve the company and the psychics of any legal liability, but it should also serve as a warning to the validity of psychic services in general.

It's like professional wrestling in a way...everyone knows its fake, but lots of people pay to watch it anyway. You can't go and complain that the WWF tournament you just paid $100 to watch on Pay-Per-View was fake. And why is that? BECAUSE EVERYONE KNOWS THAT IT'S FAKE! Kind of a stretch yes, but it was the first example I could think of off hand.

If you agreed to the site's terms of service, and you, out of your own free will, agreed to pay for all of the psychic readings that you participated in (regardless of the fact that none of their predictions were turning out to be true), then you've really got nothing on them from a legal standpoint.

Now if you're just trying to establish a support group for previous and potentially new victims of the scam, then by all means, go ahead and do it; you might actually be able to help a lot of vulnerable people. On the other hand though, if you're gathering all this information and doing all this research in the hopes of getting the site shut down or achieving some kind of legal settlement, then forget it. Count your losses and move on, because you're not going to get anywhere on that front.

I'm glad that you're finally getting the psychiatric treatment that you need. That is what's really going to help you get your life back on track at this point, not Tarot cards and internet psychics.

Good luck with whatever you end doing about this situation.
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#44 Author of original report

Clearly you don't have anything better to do

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

Obviously you don't have anything better to do than abuse people. Why are you bothering? Do you need an outlet for your abusive behaviour? You DO NOT know the facts.

The considerable feedback that I have recieved on people like you supports my perception: That you hang around looking for someone to abuse.

Why don't you go to the scamfraudalert site and read the post by the tutor on Kasamba about her fears about minors? It was posted on January 24th 2007. It is not to diificult to find.

Covering up crime is a crime in itself.
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#45 Consumer Comment

To the nasty Psychic troll that comes here to defend herself under various names! (you know who you are)

AUTHOR: Lana - (U.S.A.)

Freya4,

Oh yeah, scare us do! I'm practicaly shaking from how scared you made me-NOT!
If everything stated here is as you say a "defomation of character" why didn't Kasamba sue the Rip-Off-Report for allowing it to be posted here. You want to know why? Because Kasamba, the company itself doesn't care about you or any other psychic working for them as long as the money keeps flowing into their pockets. They won't protect you. You're just a money pump to them kinda like a prostitute working for a pimp who doesn't give a rat's a*s about you as long as the money's good. You can get AIDS, you can get raped and killed and have your body mutalated and your pimp, Kasamba, won't stand up for you because to him, you're a worthless piece of trash. And the sad thing is, you're so replaceable, that noone will even know you're gone the next day. So why do you come here creating a bunch of names trolling through people's reports? Don't you have some better place to be right now? Like say that menal clinic from which you escaped. Want me to prove you're mentally ill?

Me, if I was a psychiatrist: "Do you hear voices?"
You, the lunatic: "Yes, all the time! I know they are spirits talking to me."
Me: "And what do they tell you?"
You: "They tell me to tell my clients that their exes are going to return to them."
Me: "To all your clients?"
You: "Yes, but don't tell them ahead of time. I want them to pay for the reading
first."
Me: "What happens if your predictions don't pan out? What if the voices are wrong?"
You: "I will threaten my ex-clients that if they don't keep quiet, they'll be sued."

So, shall I stop or are you going to keep insisting you're sane? And you mean to
tell me, that after those twisted wierdos claim they communicate with their spirits,
and they tell every single client the same thing even when the client doesn't want
to hear it, the "Psychics" on your site are not fraudulent? I don't know, but the
odds aren't exactly on your side here. And you know better then anyone that your
feedback comments aren't real. Many people post nasty comments about your bogus readings but you find ways to delete those comments. And yes, you do share clients information. I can prove it too. But I don't need to do it here. Not to you, the head case, what's the use in that if you still believe in Santa Clause and the talking ghosts? Go on now, go join the rest of the fairytale creatures that exist in your world of fantasy. Next time you come here to speak, don't forget to take your medication first, looney.

Karon,

You're a patsy and a poser. No current client of Kasamba, who are satisfied with that fraudulent company services would Google "Kasamba fraud" and come here to read a rip-off report if they haven't fallen a victim to Kasamba. You are in no position to judge anyone here or to comment on the behalf of "satisfied clients." SO, cut the crap and admit you're working for them.
If indeed 80% of their predictions for you came to pass, you must be a very predictable person. What'd they predict?
"You're going to wake up tomorrow,"(check)
"then you will go take a leak"(check)
"then you'll take a shower"(check)
"then you're going to enjoy a cup of coffee"(check)
"then you're going to drive to work in your car" (check)
"it will not be a very eventful day for you at work"(check)
"but you will likely get a call from your ex that day asking you to come back "(error)
"after work you will go straight home"(check)
"you will watch some TV"(check)
"you will go to bed"(check)

OH MY GOD!!! I MUST BE PHYCHIC TOO!!!!! LOL!!
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#46 Consumer Suggestion

Janice, Kasamba, Rip Off Report

AUTHOR: Karen - (U.S.A.)

LOL. I am just sitting back here and reading your responses on these threads. I have to admit I have laughed at many of them. I am starting to find you to be extremely comical! When I need a bit of humor in my day I will come out here and read some more of your threads. Its all fine and dandy that you want to strike back after stupidly being ripped off for thousands of dollars to hear and bring a man back to you that no longer knew you existed. Good luck with recouping any monetary gain but I doubt that you will. There will come a day when all of a sudden you will just go away and these threads will see no more posts from Janice. But I am sure this comment will have you "all fired up" and "raging" to go. I would love to see the day they put a Kasamba expose on national television. I dont think that day is going to come but you can spend the time trying to make it so. Yes, I also read the thread in regard to your "media" contact. Good luck with that too. Keep on plugging along Janice. Its doing wonders for your self esteem. It also gives you something to focus your obsessive personality on. But just like the ex that forgot all about you, everyone else in regard to this crusade will too. How many times can you do a expose on psychics who rip people off. Been happening since the beginning of time. What you could do is push this out during television ratings week. You might have a good chance then. Maybe it will also hit the states. I doubt it though. As long as its helping you to heal stay "all fired up" Keep plugging along. This is good therapy for you Janice. Just as long as you know when you have crossed over the line into obssession and know how to pull your self back then all is well. Do you know when you have crossed over the line into obsession? Something you might want to work on. How to recognize obsessive traits, habits, and behaviors.
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#47 Author of original report

You bet it does keep me fired up :)

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

I have gained so much information both (unintentionally) from the people who have been abusive or made false assumptions on this thread, and from the wonderful people who have contacted me through the group because of this thread. Far from being a group for disaffected dumped women, the group functions as a contact point between me and those who want to provide information or join in facilitating a solution. That is why it was set up and I keep contributors informed of the progress privately. I have proved to the others that I am legitimate (I always send an email from my work as well as proof that I am working on compiling the research).

We ARE going to do something. We ARE working on a solution and I don't care about those who abuse me. It helps actually. I have gained so much information from this site - some it provided, as I said, unintentionally. Some people have watched the thread and contacted me BECAUSE they see that I am serious about taking a proactive stance.

So those who abuse me don't worry me at all. I REALLY don't care what they think but they actually assist me because it has brought more information to me and importantly, people wanting to be involved. So a big thank you to them for that.
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#48 Consumer Comment

Go for it Janice

AUTHOR: S - (United Kingdom)

Janice - I applaud your efforts to bring down this major scam, good luck to you, hopefully the abusers will just keep abusing as a) it provides more evidence and b)it obviously keeps you fired up and raring to go!

Freya - I have read this thread with great interest. You are obviously very SCARED, your arguments make no sense at all and you childish and defensive posts are laughable.

To say Kasamba is a reputable company is a joke....its a company alright. A big company granted that makes lots of profits and hires lots of people...that doesnt make it reputable.

You stupid woman.
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#49 Author of original report

lol...more research

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

There is a difference between constructive criticism and abuse. I notice that you tried attacking someone else. Do you just hang around looking for people to abuse? Lol. you can say what you like it doesn't make any differences to me. I going to do what I planned and, as you listed yourself as an employee earlier in this thread, it will be a great addition to my research i.e to show how Kasamaba employees abuse people.
Thank you.
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#50 Consumer Comment

WE are in the right place TOO.

AUTHOR: Freya4 - (U.S.A.)

Janice you lunatic, you go on and on over and over about how this is the correct forum to post a rip off in, and you're right, it is.. HOWEVER it is also the correct place for people to RESPOND, and issue REBUTTALS against said reports. This is not just a forum where people can gang up to mudsling against a company, it is an open forum for people to post questions, concerns, queries about companies, and for people to respond to such posts. WE are in the right forum to issue rebuttals if we do not agree with the lies and filth pouring from your mouth!
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#51 Author of original report

lol...bye bye Karen

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

You just don't get it do you. Abuse is wrong and shows more about your personality than mine.
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#52 Consumer Suggestion

Janice and Kasamba

AUTHOR: Karen - (U.S.A.)

Oh and by the way Janice. I am college educated in which one of the courses WAS critical thinking. I am a licensed therapist Janice. I am a successful therapist Janice . I am a realist Janice. I dont encourage my clients unhealthy fantasies. Now jump all over this Janice and tell me that I am in the wrong profession, etc. Jump all over these statements and tell me how much more superior YOU are! You are very predictable and extremely transparent. Have a good life and please do some honest self inventory. Remember to pick your battles wisely and also keep in mind that you CAN"T fight the world. Somehow taking on these battles and the plight of others (as you are doing with this group) makes you feel validated and worthy. That's good Janice, its a start to the road of emotional recovery if you use it in a constructive manner. Janice I have nothing more to say to you after this post, I really don't. I feel sorry for you Janice. Like I said before, I hope your PSYCHIATRIST can really help you. If you are seeing a therapist instead of a psychiatrist you should really rethink that and see a psychiatrist. Its pretty obvious you have some deep rooted emotional issues. Now once again lash out and tell me I am wrong about you. That you have it ALL together. Now start the name calling. Bash me as a professional. I expect it. I welcome it. Because then you will be proving me right about you.
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#53 Consumer Suggestion

Janice and Kasamba

AUTHOR: Karen - (U.S.A.)

WOW! More bitterness coming from you. LOL. You are funny Janice. I see you cant take constructive criticism nor can you take any fault for your own actions. I also see that you like name calling. You know nothing of my IQ Janice. I hope that you are seeing a really good psychiatrist and boy did Freya have you pegged absolutely correctly. If this is your personality, its a wonder the man you became obsessed over didnt come back. I wouldnt either to someone as bitter and angry as you. Hopefully he is somewhere enjoying a relationship with a woman who loves life, and has a gentle loving spirit. Yes, I know you have a group Janice. Filled with bitter, lonely, angry women who want to blame the world for their loneliness and lack of male companionship instead of taking a deep deep look within themselves. Life has made you a bitter woman Janice and bitterness is not attractive to the opposite sex or anyone else for that matter!! Unfortunately you will remain a lonely woman for some time to come. Oh yes, I know the usual response after this one that will come from you. Anger, bitterness, name calling, and denial. This will be the LAST time I respond to you Janice for I find you to be pothetic, emotionally and mentally unstable. Take a good look around you Janice. How is your life? Where is your happiness? Tell us some more lies in regard to how you got it all together but the more you post on here the more obvious it becomes that you are emotionally unstable. So keep up the good work Janice! Toodles!
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#54 Author of original report

You really are clutching at straws

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

lol. attacking someone who answers comments in a report filed in the CORRECT place is really an indication of your character, not mine. It is clear that you are desperately trying to find something or someone to disparage. You do not know the facts about the group. I am not going to tell you much but I will say that you would be surprised about the membership. lol.

I repeat! I posted a report in the correct forum and people like you who make incorrect assumptions about me and resort to abuse remind me of a comment made by a Muslim Mufti here awhile back that woman who wear short skirts are asking to be attacked. He used an analogy in a speech in which he said that if you put meat out a cat will eat it and related it to women who don't cover their bodies.

As your IQ appears to be in double digits (you clearly don't know anything about critical thinking), I will explain that it is the same argument used for years to justify violence against women-that they did something wrong therefore they deserved it. Needless to say, he is now unemployed. The members of his faith dumped him.

You are stupid! THIS is the correct forum to post a report. The fact is that everyone who has attacked me has NOT interpreted the facts correctly and you the same sort of idiot.
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#55 Consumer Suggestion

Janice and Kasamba

AUTHOR: Karen - (U.S.A.)

Just because they send you a email and you come here to read what is said does not necessarily mean that you have to keep responding over and over again. Normal people would read the comments and feel that some comments dont warrant being responded to. But not you, you keep up this dialogue with Freya and everyone else. Starting to sound like a broken record.

Like I said start a group of kasamba women who pined away for ex's that were long gone and they got smoke blown up their butts by bogus readers telling them them the exs are coming back. People with common sense know that if what a reader told them has not come to pass that most likely its not going to. People with common sense dont go from reader to reader asking the same question and spending thousands of dollars to hear something that isnt true. Take a look at the kasamba message board and you will see all the women just like you asking about ex bfs that are long gone.

What you should of done is when the prediction didnt come to pass you should of said to YOURSELF that perhaps I am wasting my time and should move on from this man but instead due to your own lonliness and depression YOU WANTED to believe that he would return although that little voice inside you told you otherwise. WE all have that little voice inside of us. Those who claim not to have that are the ones who dont listen to their own instinct and usually end up in all kinds of a rut because of it. Like I said before, do what you must in regard to the readers who blatantly ripped you off with bogus spells, candle lighting, etc, etc . If they are the ones who you listed than by all means get your money back but in the meantime leave the bitterness, name calling, broad brush painting alone.

Do what you have to do. You stated what you are going to do so why dont you just leave it at that and put your energy elsewhere other than fighting with people on this site and I am WELL AWARE of what the purpose of this site is. Do you? Do you really? If you did you would not be responding with cat fighting. It is not for people to be fighting and calling names. Learn to rise above that and concentrate on TRYING to get your money back from the charlatans who KNOWINGLY ripped you off!!
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#56 Author of original report

More incorrect assumptions

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

I am sent an email when somone reponds to the post. This is the correct forum to post about a ripoff! You don't know anything about the group. Why are YOU reading the threads.
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#57 Consumer Suggestion

Janice and Kasamba

AUTHOR: Karen - (U.S.A.)

I think enough is enough with this back and forth fighting on this thread. This thread is not for people to cat fight, call names, and make threats. Janice you have stated your gripe with this company and what you plan to do. Why keep checking this thread on a daily basis and continuously comment on whats put here. "YOU" made the choice to spend thousands on readers who were lieing to you. Even when the things they told you did not come to fruitation. "YOU" still paid and paid and paid.

Now your on this thread like a psycho spewing vemon and bitterness. Find something better to do with your time like start a group of kasamba women who pined away for ex's that didnt come back. Take some "personal" responsibilty for your own foolish actions!! Posting on this site over and over again is ridiculous and your starting to prove Freya right about you. Give it a rest and do what you have to do. Simple as that. Enough already.
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#58 Author of original report

It is sad when people resort to abuse when they are proven wrong

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

I find it sad that people try to discredit consumers who make a complaint about a rip-off in the correct forum especially when they resort to abuse when proven wrong.
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#59 Consumer Comment

LOLOL

AUTHOR: Freya4 - (U.S.A.)

LOLOLOLOL. Now Janice is telling ME to get a life, ohh the irony in THAT.
You've demonstrated that you are nothing but a bitter, lonely and spiteful pathetic excuse of a human being.

I'm over this, it's just gone back and forth and unlike some, I have better things to do with my time.

All i'm going to say is good luck in 'taking Kasamba on.' I only hope you're as prepared for Kasambas retaliaiton as you are for your ridiculous little crusade.

Oh and by the way, just to further discredit you, your little tale about 'taking the health system on and winning' is HIGHLY exagerated, from what i've read, you simply took on an unfair and discriminative boss within the health care system and prevailed, you did not single handedly 'take down' the Australian Health Care system like you have claimed in so many reports. Just wanted to even further add to the fact that you are obviously mentally unwell.

Blessings for now!
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#60 Consumer Comment

LOLOL

AUTHOR: Freya4 - (U.S.A.)

LOLOLOLOL. Now Janice is telling ME to get a life, ohh the irony in THAT.
You've demonstrated that you are nothing but a bitter, lonely and spiteful pathetic excuse of a human being.

I'm over this, it's just gone back and forth and unlike some, I have better things to do with my time.

All i'm going to say is good luck in 'taking Kasamba on.' I only hope you're as prepared for Kasambas retaliaiton as you are for your ridiculous little crusade.

Oh and by the way, just to further discredit you, your little tale about 'taking the health system on and winning' is HIGHLY exagerated, from what i've read, you simply took on an unfair and discriminative boss within the health care system and prevailed, you did not single handedly 'take down' the Australian Health Care system like you have claimed in so many reports. Just wanted to even further add to the fact that you are obviously mentally unwell.

Blessings for now!
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#61 Consumer Comment

LOLOL

AUTHOR: Freya4 - (U.S.A.)

LOLOLOLOL. Now Janice is telling ME to get a life, ohh the irony in THAT.
You've demonstrated that you are nothing but a bitter, lonely and spiteful pathetic excuse of a human being.

I'm over this, it's just gone back and forth and unlike some, I have better things to do with my time.

All i'm going to say is good luck in 'taking Kasamba on.' I only hope you're as prepared for Kasambas retaliaiton as you are for your ridiculous little crusade.

Oh and by the way, just to further discredit you, your little tale about 'taking the health system on and winning' is HIGHLY exagerated, from what i've read, you simply took on an unfair and discriminative boss within the health care system and prevailed, you did not single handedly 'take down' the Australian Health Care system like you have claimed in so many reports. Just wanted to even further add to the fact that you are obviously mentally unwell.

Blessings for now!
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#62 Consumer Comment

Freya, you have just made things easier for us

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

If you click on each billing entry link in the billing history it takes you straight to the information about who was paid. So really that will correspond nicely with the information on my credit card statements. It even works when you copy it onto a word document.
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#63 Author of original report

Freya you are demostrating what an idiot you are

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

Firstly, I the information is initially going to interested parties other then the IRS.

Secondly, I have the billing history and the transcripts that show exactly how much was spent at what time and what date and with whom. If you ARE an employee you should know this. If you are just, as I suspect, not an employee but a liar and/or some poor idiot that has nothing better to do than try and discredit someone who chooses to post about a rip-off then you're really sick and need help or a life or something.
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#64 Consumer Comment

As I thought.

AUTHOR: Freya4 - (U.S.A.)

Just as I thought, the amount is obviously so astronomical, that to risk even further embarassment and discredit towards herself and her little 'crusade' Janice chooses not to reveal the total she has spent on Kasamba.

I wanted to know, though. What exactly are you trying to prove by showing your credit card statements to the IRS? Nobody is doubting the fact that you have spent money on Kasamba, but your payments are made to KASAMBA INC not to the individual expert, okay you have transcripts, but there is no way that you can corrospond the amounts spent to each individual expert, which really leaves you gathering your credit card statements as pointless.
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#65 Consumer Comment

I don't trust you Freya

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

So I am Not going to tell you the exact figure. I WILL say however that Kasamba was the ONLY site I contacted and, from what I have learnt about the Kasamba psychics sharing information in their MSN groups etc (I have found three already), I am NOT surprised that people spend a lot of money. When the time comes I am happy to provide my credit card statements to the appropriate people but NOT to someone like you. Why would I bother. I have already said I spent a lot of money but I didn't bankrupt myself, I got depressed, very depressed, got over it through seeking professional help. You are just looking for a way to put me down and you can think and say what you want but it is NOT going to stop me. You would be surprised at the amount of information I have gathered. I have proven to those people who are legitimate, that I AM legitimate also and we are all working together on this.
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#66 Consumer Comment

I don't trust you Freya

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

So I am Not going to tell you the exact figure. I WILL say however that Kasamba was the ONLY site I contacted and, from what I have learnt about the Kasamba psychics sharing information in their MSN groups etc (I have found three already), I am NOT surprised that people spend a lot of money. When the time comes I am happy to provide my credit card statements to the appropriate people but NOT to someone like you. Why would I bother. I have already said I spent a lot of money but I didn't bankrupt myself, I got depressed, very depressed, got over it through seeking professional help. You are just looking for a way to put me down and you can think and say what you want but it is NOT going to stop me. You would be surprised at the amount of information I have gathered. I have proven to those people who are legitimate, that I AM legitimate also and we are all working together on this.
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I don't trust you Freya

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

So I am Not going to tell you the exact figure. I WILL say however that Kasamba was the ONLY site I contacted and, from what I have learnt about the Kasamba psychics sharing information in their MSN groups etc (I have found three already), I am NOT surprised that people spend a lot of money. When the time comes I am happy to provide my credit card statements to the appropriate people but NOT to someone like you. Why would I bother. I have already said I spent a lot of money but I didn't bankrupt myself, I got depressed, very depressed, got over it through seeking professional help. You are just looking for a way to put me down and you can think and say what you want but it is NOT going to stop me. You would be surprised at the amount of information I have gathered. I have proven to those people who are legitimate, that I AM legitimate also and we are all working together on this.
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I don't trust you Freya

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

So I am Not going to tell you the exact figure. I WILL say however that Kasamba was the ONLY site I contacted and, from what I have learnt about the Kasamba psychics sharing information in their MSN groups etc (I have found three already), I am NOT surprised that people spend a lot of money. When the time comes I am happy to provide my credit card statements to the appropriate people but NOT to someone like you. Why would I bother. I have already said I spent a lot of money but I didn't bankrupt myself, I got depressed, very depressed, got over it through seeking professional help. You are just looking for a way to put me down and you can think and say what you want but it is NOT going to stop me. You would be surprised at the amount of information I have gathered. I have proven to those people who are legitimate, that I AM legitimate also and we are all working together on this.
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#69 Consumer Comment

A Question to Janice

AUTHOR: Freya4 - (U.S.A.)

I just wanted to ask Janice, can you tell us, over the period of the two years you have contacted Kasamba Psychics, from your first reading to your very last, how much total have you spent on Online Psychics?

You claim you spent $4,000 on ONE reader in a two month period, could you tell us just how much you spent over the entire duration? As I, along with (I assume) many others following this thread, are VERY interested in just how much you have spent over these years, you claim to have your credit card statements and transcripts so it wouldn't be hard to derive a grand total (you can even round it off, just so we can get an idea)

I think this will be VERY interesting.
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#70 Author of original report

sigh......I actually DO understand 'my issues'

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

Carmen, I actually DO understand my issues and am working through them. I am not ashamed to admit that. It is 8 am here in Australia and I want to get some work done on the Kasamba research before I get up, tend to my father and go to the gym, do the shopping, cleaning etc. As it is Saturday I allowed my self a bit of a sleep in as I have had a major article on mental health issues and elderly people and was tired.

But I also understand the principles of harm minimisation i.e. there has to be checks and balances on ALL sorts of activity that can take advantage of the public. From what I have gathered, and from what people have told me there are no such checks and balances on Kasamba.

Also in Australia consumer consensus and consumer movements are a BIG part of addressing injustices. As a senior researcher in health I am obliged, through our policy, to consider that aspect in any research and policy.

We just had an Aboriginal guy who was part of the 'Stolen Generation' who fought the system and managed to get compensation and justice. It CAN be done. He was told he didn't have a chance but he didn't give up.

I know about the psychicjunkie website, have joined and do tell anyone where to find it OR tell people how I am dealing with my own issues. As I said I am not ashamed and have NOTHING to hide.

I am no longer depressed but I STILL see the psychiatrist (who got me well) because I realise there are things I need to work on.

However, I am still gathering the information on Kasamba. I am treating this as a public health problem that needs to be addressed. I intend to proceed with it.
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#71 Consumer Comment

Relax

AUTHOR: Carman - (Canada)

Janice:

I now understand that you are not a bitter person. You can do whatever you do to make you feel better.

The ripoffreport website caught my attention when I was doing my research for which Pscyhic I should go in Kasamba. It was 2 years ago. Remember I told you I am a psychic addict?

I totally understand your feelings because I have been through there. For 2 years I have been on this website, reading through the posts, I feel for your case the most and that's why I am responding. I just want to see if I can share some of experience to make you feel better.

May be I took the wrong approach.

PLEASE READ AHEAD even though you don't think you have addictive issues to deal with.

Drug dealers and drug addicts got into troubles because selling drugs and taking drugs are both illegal from the society's perpective. Drug addicts cannot blame drug dealers for selling drugs to make them become an addict.

For example, you love Chinese food the whole time, and one day you figure out all the Chinese restuarants you been to are not selling authentic Chinese food (which is really true in many cases). The only authentic part is the "bowl and chopsticks". Can you go to your government and ask all these Chinese restuarants should be closed they are deceiving? Because what I have been loving the whole time is 'Fake Chinese Food'? Because these Chinese resturants have give me the wrong idea of "Chinese Food"?

The point I would like to make is, closing Kasamba down does not solve your problem. Your problem is you fell in love with the idea of "fake Chinese food" which in this case, you fell in love with the idea of "fake psychic", which the whole time you think they are "Authentic". You cannot accept this fact.

Organizing a forum to go against Kasamba is not a bad idea. But be careful because they may lead to these victims to overlook their own addictive issues, because how they put their time and effort to transfer their own issues to the 'Drug dealer", which in the case "Kasamba". Leaving them no time to deal with their real issues. Instead, you are providing a tool for these victims to transfer the blame.

My suggestion is you have to spend time to rescue yourself first, before you are able to rescue the other Kasamba victims. I have been through your stage, I have been to all the aids that you have been to, like seeing real psychiatrist, everything, you name it. I still have a lot of work to do myself today. I still have hopes that one day, one of these psychic says will turn out true, but be 10 years later!

If I do not recognize my own addictive issues, some time in the near future, if something else come to replace 'psychic reading', that will give me the same 'comfort' during the process, I will recommit the same behaviour, I am sure.

I think these fake Psychics should have their punishment one day. But rather, I am looking forward people to post more cases like ours here to make other victims stop visiting them. Our role is to help people to make SENSIBLE visit to psychic if they choose to believe in it.
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#72 Author of original report

Now I am REALLY sick of people who make assumptions about people who were ripped off

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

1. You people who have painted me as a lonley bitter woman are wrong. I am not. My situation was, as i had explained that i met someone and was unsure about him and the psychics made 100% predictions and promises that it was a positive thing. that makes me human. Sure i had not had a relationship in a long time but, as I said, I WAS vulnerbale because I spend most of my time working and looking after my aged parents. That makes me human not desperate.

2. I am NOT the only one who has been a victim of Kasamba.

3. I did get depressed. When i contacted them they suggested I seek help from one of their other experts in mental health which is against their policy.

4. I did get professional help and my psychiatrist (whom I still see monthly) fully supports my endeavor to do something about it.

5. The wild accusations about me being a psychic were wrong but It did give me a lot of information to add to the research that I am compiling.

6. The information about places to report frauds and scammers was provided by a psychic on a public message board and is there for all to see.

7. I WAS vulnerable and I explained that to those psychics right at the beginning and they exploited it. Again, that makes me human.

8. It is NOT about the money. From what I have found out Kasamba's practices are orientated at making money. I also found out from the WHAM board that every other catagory of expert requires documentation of their credenitals but ANYONE can sign up to be a psychic.

9. This is a site where people can report ripoffs. I questioned the psychics over and over again were they sure about their predictions as it was important to me. They would reassure me and then, when they were proved wrong, gave me a multitude of excuses despite earlier reassurances that they were not wrong.

10. I am NOT the only person who has been ripped off by Kasamba. Read the reports on this site.

11. As I do research for a living I am used to gathering EVERY bit of information that I can. For example, the person Freya who listed herself as an employee and was so derogatory actually adds to my case. As I noted before, the person Kiin who tried to discredit me actually gave me a great lead for information about Kasamba practices written by ex-staff, including the sites to report scammers and, more recently a story about how a woman who had been raped was treated.

12. I have nothing to hide. I am slowly preparing my transcripts, credit card statements etc as are some other people as proof that the predictions did not occur. They will show that I asked the people over and over again if they were sure they were correct.

So there is absolutly NOTHING anyone can say or do to stop me. It may take a bit of time as I still have my parents to look after and work but research prjects DO take time.

Also beware about making any false accusations or derogatory comments because I may just find some benefit from it to add to my ripoff research. I found a lot of great information from the accusation by Kiin that I was a psychic on the WAHM group.
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The psychics message board url was deleted by Ripoff

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

But it is the same message board mention by Kiin EARLIER IN THIS THREAD ACCUSING ME OF BEING A PSYCHIC. As I had not heard of this message board I decided to take a look and found some valuable information on the fraudulent practices at Kasamba.

All the information was complied, SUGGESTED AND WRITTEN BY A PSYCHIC, NOT ME ....lol...The date of the post is in my previous post and it shouldn't be too hard to find it as it is a google group and the business is psychics.

So, Susan from Manhatten, since you are so intent on degrading me why don't you have a look, or maybe don't you have the nouce. Given you say you have a Masters degree maybe you should check your research.
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#74 Author of original report

oh and to answer you questions Susan

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

I explained the situation and my doubts about the person to the readers and they assured me over and over again I was making to hang in there and wait. I did NOT call any psychic lines anywhere. I have ONLY used Kasamba. I have transcripts of my questioning them several times are they sure, them reassuring me that they were and then their excuses when they were wrong.

I did not bankrupt myself but spent a lot of money. You don't know the facts and those facts are that from the outset I expressed my doubts, said that I was vulnerable, asked them over and over again if they were sure and they kept me coming back by making 100% predictions.

I notice the nasty people on this thread don't know what they are talking about and you are an example of those sort of people. Why don't you check the message boards in the link I provided and you will see where I got the information and who suggested it..lol...

Before you run off at the mouth again have a look and you will see psychics talking about bad practices at Kasamba...

I am happy to be investigated. In fact I am preparing my transcripts (which means showing and credit details) which means exposing myself. I don't care I have nothing to hide. But do your research before you make me an outlet for your vitriol. You don't have to join that message board to read the posts. I have provided the date, look under the category of psychics and while you are there read some of the later stuff written by the people in the psychics section about Kasamba.

People like you are unbelievable. Why you want to put someone down because I posted in the CORRECT place about a ripoff on a site that suggests something can be done about ripoffs. It says more about your character than mine.
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oh and to answer you questions Susan

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

I explained the situation and my doubts about the person to the readers and they assured me over and over again I was making to hang in there and wait. I did NOT call any psychic lines anywhere. I have ONLY used Kasamba. I have transcripts of my questioning them several times are they sure, them reassuring me that they were and then their excuses when they were wrong.

I did not bankrupt myself but spent a lot of money. You don't know the facts and those facts are that from the outset I expressed my doubts, said that I was vulnerable, asked them over and over again if they were sure and they kept me coming back by making 100% predictions.

I notice the nasty people on this thread don't know what they are talking about and you are an example of those sort of people. Why don't you check the message boards in the link I provided and you will see where I got the information and who suggested it..lol...

Before you run off at the mouth again have a look and you will see psychics talking about bad practices at Kasamba...

I am happy to be investigated. In fact I am preparing my transcripts (which means showing and credit details) which means exposing myself. I don't care I have nothing to hide. But do your research before you make me an outlet for your vitriol. You don't have to join that message board to read the posts. I have provided the date, look under the category of psychics and while you are there read some of the later stuff written by the people in the psychics section about Kasamba.

People like you are unbelievable. Why you want to put someone down because I posted in the CORRECT place about a ripoff on a site that suggests something can be done about ripoffs. It says more about your character than mine.
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#76 Author of original report

errrr - Susan -I got those Tax links and the advice from a psychics message board

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

All that information (and the information I posted on report #262019) was copied DIRECTLY from board mentioned by Kiin. He/she said I was some horrible psychic ditched from this particular message board. I wasn't but I decided to check it out as I did not know about it. Apart from a lot of messages about information sharing and other bad practices on Kasamba, I found a thread mentioning the best thing to do to frauds is to dob them into the tax departments.

This is the board

(((ROR REDACTED)))

Before you RUN OFF AT THE MOUTH again go have a look. It is a old thread posted
Posted: 30/September/2005 at 9:40am

CLICK here to see why Rip-off Report, as a matter of policy, deleted either a phone number, link or e-mail address from this Report.
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#77 Consumer Comment

Behaviour Observation

AUTHOR: Carman - (Canada)

I have spent the last 3 years talking to at least 60 Kasamba experts to find out the outcome of an affair I am involved in. (I am relunctant to call this affair because we genuinely fell in love, who does not say so when they are in an impossible relationship). In short, I am an psychic addict.

Seriously, 90% of the experts tells me to hold on and this relationship will eventually manifest. Karma, twinflames, etc. etc. you name it. 10% tells me that the relationship is a dead end.

Of course I understand that a majority of experts are con-artists. Because I went to these experts, I spend tremendous time to research to minimize my chance of talking to a con-artist. I also understand when experts lure you into more spending.

My observations:

1. I am more willing to spend time with an expert who tells me a positive outcome. I would still believe in those 10% sometimes when surface evidence does not support my faith, but then it does not hold long.

2. Even the best expert (I was floored by a couple of them when they describe my own personality and my love interest personality, in no way they are not expert to tell that) cannot make the correct prediction in timeline.

3. When the prediction timelines comes, I haven't become the real-self. With this assumption what will come long, I act weired.

4. When my down time comes, I deliberate went to an expert and look for positive answer for comfort. I am willing to pay and think that as a pyschiatry expenses.

5. There are experts with multiple accounts, exchange information. I am very sure.

6. I magnify negatives clues and all of a sudden I think all experts are lying. Things becomes worse than usual.

7. Readings build expectation, expectation leads to disappointment. Disappoint leads to bitterness.

All I want to say is talking to expert can comfort you when you are drained. May help you hold your faith for a long time. This 'long time' can be years and after all you think you are stupid. Then you have become bitter and negative.

But what about the true nature of love? If you choose to love him more than love yourself, you will not complain about the time you invested to hang around the relationship.

If I ask you "Are you willing to sacrifice your life to rescue the person you love the most?"

If your answer is "Yes". Then why are you complaining about losing your 'future' OR 'time' to this person you love? Nothing is more important than your life.

If you answer is "No". Then definitely you love yourself as much as this person. Then do something else to love yourself. If you don't do that, all is left for yourself is bitterness and whining. Even though when he comes back today, all he sees is a person with bitterness, whining and calculation.

Psychics can help you hold your faith, if you absolutely believe your faith with pay off one day. If you believe your faith will pay off one day, you won't choose to leave with this bitterness. You may still leave and think that 10 years down the road, he will remember you one day and come to you.

I think the problem is you think "togetherness" means "love". I tend to fall into this thinking a lot. But think twice, it is true? If you think is true, then tell me about why these couples are sleeping together without true love inside. How many married couples play games against each other and control each other. Is it love?

I still think a majority of my money should be spend on better use. But when I am down and have nobody to talk to, I justify myself of this spending. Yes after all, IT IS STUPID, but it's nobody's fault.
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#78 Consumer Comment

Are You Kidding? Grow Up and Accept Your Responsibilities as an Obsessive Complusive Estranged Woman

AUTHOR: Susan - (U.S.A.)

Janice,

Firstly, you new from your own actions that you seeked a reading from various psychics, those of which you placed ** next to them you were obviously lead to believe things would happen.

My question to you is: Why did you continue speaking to them if nothing came of it? Some I am sure you didn't return to because you may have taken matters in your own hands and caused a delay of time.

Secondly the other readers mentioned - did they stop talking to you when you took action on your own (freewill) and stuffed up? along the way so seeking to blame every reader on the Kasamba site?

For those readers who talk about 2nd and 3rd pages some of those on the first page are legitimate readers and coaches that are accredited and affiliated with organisations, which help to put the person into perspective first "getting you right before you can attain what you wish for" some I am not so sure as some are script readers.

So in an event of trying to push for movement along the ranks - everyone works hard and the fees charged depends on the persons time and effort and those you went to the majority of the ** Did you have Spells done or did you pay for spell work????

Desperate measures to obtain a man - WRONG a man will return to you of his freewill and not by anything else. To seek a spell which when purchased creates karma stick to lightworkers and those that have DISCLAIMERS on their profiles and work ethically.

You obviously did not hear what you wanted to hear from the ones which you never returned to and its is a shame that you didn't as they dont always charge for their sessions but to accuse them of you losing money or going bankrupt from one or two sessions? You have freewill and within your own actions manifested this to your own psyche and got caught up in it - something you wont admit to yourself and seek to blame the messengers.

You should have consulted a local psychologist for assistance to help clear this energy fantasy relationship for you as it seems you held onto someone that obviously did you wrong.

There are fully accreddited Psychics, Counsellors, Programmers, other Professionals on this site and every one has to legitimately COMPLETE a WE 8 and an WE 9
IRS form to continue to work as an outsourced Consultant.

Going to the big guns - TAX Internal Revenue will see that everything on Kasambas books is - Legitmate. It is now owned by a new Company which divests its energy into the Corporate Market and is also a legitimate Company.

I am a repeat customer and sometimes seek advise/clarity from some of the Psychics on Kasamba and those that i have had readings with you have namely targetted and they dont have the ** NEXT to THEIR NAME - I have reconcilled with my partner because I followed the prompts and listened to the insight given but ultimately was my choice and freewill to make the decision if I was to call or not make any contact.

You went all out to be HEARD by the world and get support from some - You do need to seek counselling - and even if you have a Phd - I have a Masters/Phd also and I dont rant about the fact I am ecducated?

Who do you think you are - Arch Angel Michael the Angel of Justice??? You are but another person who lost herself and took into her own hands the wrong advice from the readers with ** and possibly purchased spells heck - how screwed up is that.

Understand, I did it my way on the onset and delayed everything and did stuff up and did spend $$ with some of the readers too but hey I acknowledge my stuff ups and then found readers which were genuine and when I spoke to ones which some you have named (without the **) I am quite concerned that you have placed some innocent people on here - they have guided me back on the path to be with my beloved partner and I am back with him and pregnant with his child.

There are success stories on Kasamba some people tend to slag the innocent and forget that there are true lightworkers on this site. Yes the bad seeds need to be scolded or removed but that is Kasamba and only Kasambas choice based on the Experts Agreement and the User Agreement - I would challenge some unjust circumstances there.

I am sorry but you also are forgetting your actions can be your own worst enemy and from the sounds of this - DID you ever meet your person in the Physical or was this all in hope that you would be with him one day as he was with another?

I stand in the defence of some of the readers you named without the ** next to them as they were honest and the most helpful ones to get me back on track.

They also have a successful client base and I am sure that if you were to approach them you would find that they are happy repeat clients of Kasamba.

I am trying to understand all this BS on this rip off report but the only person I question is yourself and to threaten the IRS - this is something that you as a person will have to understand that you too will be investigated.

But I dare ask you another question:

How many psychic lines in Australia did you contact?

Yes your credit card will show Kasamba, it will show the lines you contacted as well and they will clearly reject your whole behaviour as an obsessed lonely woman.

You will only open up an inner insight to your own Pandora's Box where you have and will be seen as not stable. The IRS has bigger fish to fry and this is all a legitimate company - unfortunately you are taking on the wrong people.

Sure others have attempted to destroy innocent readers but when the Kasamba platform was registered in the states it also found that many readers left because they were the fraudulent ones earning an income and not claiming it at all.

There is nothing hidden on that side of the fence.

The claims that other readers have or swap information is a farce - there are some readers that have one or more profiles and they are the ones to target as they have and do con the innocent - I agree with that and still does need cleaning up. But that is not an IRS issue....get real with your claims you sound hysterical!

This whole situation is a cry for help and loss that YOUR man never RETURNED as you were obsessed, chased, suffocated maybe even called him daily -or emailed who knows - the THINGS NOT TO DO when they have walked out of your life...

Realistically - remember you will be investigated also.

Good luck on your quest I only see you falling flat on your face with unjust slander on innocent readers and boy you have a nerve throwing in the IRS when all is shown through the Revenue department in all areas. Come on Enough is Enough!

I agree to think BIG but your going down the wrong path, I would go back to Kasamba and seek a refund and hope to God that you paid for the spell work through the Kasamba platform and not directly to their bank accounts so you can seek a refund. Even a portion would suffice.

Remember the site is for Entertainment Purposes also nothing is ever written in stone and the reason to come to this sight is to offload, seek clarity, or gain insight into your situation some even come onto speak to readers because they cant talk about certain things with a friend.

I wish you luck on your journey.
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#79 Author of original report

Tax fraud website link changed

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

I checked the tax fraud website in the US it has changed.

This is the link:

irs.gov/irs/article/0,,id=98398,00.html

They have extensive powers and I am happy to provide them with details including my credit card statements so it should be easy for them to check against declared income.
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#80 Author of original report

The Tax offices DO WANT TO KNOW as do psychic scammer organisations

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

I got the information off the site that I was apparently banned from using in one of the posts that are trying to discredit me. Thanks for the lead Kiin :). Anyway the tax offices and scammer watch organisations ARE interested in fraudulent psychics.

If you live in Canada there is good info on "Witchcraft" and fortune telling in the Canadian Criminal Code:

religioustolerance.org/wic_can.htm

xzone-radio.com/Clipping/psychics.html

city.vancouver.bc.ca/police/VictimServices/index.htm

In the UK OFT has set up a team to investigate consumer complaints about scams - including psychic and miracle health scams

fsa.gov.uk/

In the US the IRS wants to know!! Report to IRS your hard earned tax money that the scammer robbed from you. Scammers do not report their earnings, and it will be a quick way to get them behind bars lol, think Al Capone! It does not matter where the victim lives, if the scammer resides in the US - report them to the IRS!

irs.gov/index.html

gypsypsychicscams.com/IRS_affidavit.pdf

In Australia go to:

scamwatch.gov.au/content/index.phtml/tag/PsychicClairvoyantScams

In New Zealand go to:

consumeraffairs.govt.nz/scamwatch/reportscamform.html
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#81 Author of original report

More victim blaming

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

Well I admit I was vulnerable, but for 10 years I have been looking after my elderly parents who BOTH have significant health problems, and only one lives with me (I am an only surviving child) working to improve the health of the elderly and disadvantaged and maybe that made me vulnerable.

For example, when the worse of my spending on fakes psychics was happening my father had heart problems and my mother broker her hip. YOU try spending your weekends looking after two people who live miles apart and see how that affects you and your social freedom.

Although I doubt someone like you would do that. You come across as a bitter, twisted, bored abusive person with nothing better to do than put people down for using the correct place to report a rip-off.

I may have made a huge mistake but I am actually not bitter and abusive. I am preparing all the information in conjunction with others because so many people are scammed. Freya YOU cannot count or you seem to have a problem with reading. This is a place created for people to express their experiences with con artists and scammers. If you look at the reports there are MANY more bad experiences with Kasamba than there are good experiences.

Do you NOT have anything better to do than abuse people? Sure I got caught by frauds but unlike you I don't abuse people and it is my right to do something about it.

At least I don't abuse people like you and I do the right thing for my parents. If that makes me vulnerable and socially isolated then so be it. Karma wll be kinder to me than you I expect because ANY form of abuse brings bad karma and by the tone of your post you got a whole lot of bad energy around you.

I may have been weak whatever, but I help, not abuse people. I really feel soory for you. I may not have much of a life now but it is because I am doing the right thing, not looking out for people to abuse like you.

I am over the depression and into positive action mode. You are stuck in hatred and abuse and bad energy.

Well I must het some sleep. I have to get up early and work on the Kasamba project.
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#82 UPDATE Employee

It is now just beyond a joke.

AUTHOR: Freya4 - (U.S.A.)

That is all fine and good Janice, you do that.. and it is also interesting how such an 'intelligent woman with a phD and a high position in the health field' first, has the (i won't say stupidity) lack of intelligence to spend amounts in the high-thousands on Kasamba, but also finds the time to plot a scheme to 'bring Kasamba down' .. Interesting observation, but anyway - what you need to understand Janice, what people here BESIDES MYSELF have been trying to drill into you, that YOUR EXPERIENCE IS NOT A REFLECTION ON KASAMBA AS A WHOLE. You had a bad experience, that is too bad.. But many others have had a great experience on Kasamba, people posting in this thread, so I really do not feel as though your crusade has any merit.

And as many have stated - You partook in a big no no, you went to various amounts of experts within the one time span, trying to get different information on the same topic, that is complete insanity, as if you had done your RESEARCH before making your PURCHASE as I noted in a previous message in this thread, you will have realised that consulting 2 or Psychics within the same time frame, on the same topic, is negative Karma. And you have the absolute GAUL to call me hysterical? I am stating the facts from the other side of the fence, if anyone is hysterical, it is YOU Janice. I am starting to see just WHY you haven't had a relationship in 10 years. :)
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It is now just beyond a joke.

AUTHOR: Freya4 - (U.S.A.)

That is all fine and good Janice, you do that.. and it is also interesting how such an 'intelligent woman with a phD and a high position in the health field' first, has the (i won't say stupidity) lack of intelligence to spend amounts in the high-thousands on Kasamba, but also finds the time to plot a scheme to 'bring Kasamba down' .. Interesting observation, but anyway - what you need to understand Janice, what people here BESIDES MYSELF have been trying to drill into you, that YOUR EXPERIENCE IS NOT A REFLECTION ON KASAMBA AS A WHOLE. You had a bad experience, that is too bad.. But many others have had a great experience on Kasamba, people posting in this thread, so I really do not feel as though your crusade has any merit.

And as many have stated - You partook in a big no no, you went to various amounts of experts within the one time span, trying to get different information on the same topic, that is complete insanity, as if you had done your RESEARCH before making your PURCHASE as I noted in a previous message in this thread, you will have realised that consulting 2 or Psychics within the same time frame, on the same topic, is negative Karma. And you have the absolute GAUL to call me hysterical? I am stating the facts from the other side of the fence, if anyone is hysterical, it is YOU Janice. I am starting to see just WHY you haven't had a relationship in 10 years. :)
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It is now just beyond a joke.

AUTHOR: Freya4 - (U.S.A.)

That is all fine and good Janice, you do that.. and it is also interesting how such an 'intelligent woman with a phD and a high position in the health field' first, has the (i won't say stupidity) lack of intelligence to spend amounts in the high-thousands on Kasamba, but also finds the time to plot a scheme to 'bring Kasamba down' .. Interesting observation, but anyway - what you need to understand Janice, what people here BESIDES MYSELF have been trying to drill into you, that YOUR EXPERIENCE IS NOT A REFLECTION ON KASAMBA AS A WHOLE. You had a bad experience, that is too bad.. But many others have had a great experience on Kasamba, people posting in this thread, so I really do not feel as though your crusade has any merit.

And as many have stated - You partook in a big no no, you went to various amounts of experts within the one time span, trying to get different information on the same topic, that is complete insanity, as if you had done your RESEARCH before making your PURCHASE as I noted in a previous message in this thread, you will have realised that consulting 2 or Psychics within the same time frame, on the same topic, is negative Karma. And you have the absolute GAUL to call me hysterical? I am stating the facts from the other side of the fence, if anyone is hysterical, it is YOU Janice. I am starting to see just WHY you haven't had a relationship in 10 years. :)
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#85 UPDATE Employee

It is now just beyond a joke.

AUTHOR: Freya4 - (U.S.A.)

That is all fine and good Janice, you do that.. and it is also interesting how such an 'intelligent woman with a phD and a high position in the health field' first, has the (i won't say stupidity) lack of intelligence to spend amounts in the high-thousands on Kasamba, but also finds the time to plot a scheme to 'bring Kasamba down' .. Interesting observation, but anyway - what you need to understand Janice, what people here BESIDES MYSELF have been trying to drill into you, that YOUR EXPERIENCE IS NOT A REFLECTION ON KASAMBA AS A WHOLE. You had a bad experience, that is too bad.. But many others have had a great experience on Kasamba, people posting in this thread, so I really do not feel as though your crusade has any merit.

And as many have stated - You partook in a big no no, you went to various amounts of experts within the one time span, trying to get different information on the same topic, that is complete insanity, as if you had done your RESEARCH before making your PURCHASE as I noted in a previous message in this thread, you will have realised that consulting 2 or Psychics within the same time frame, on the same topic, is negative Karma. And you have the absolute GAUL to call me hysterical? I am stating the facts from the other side of the fence, if anyone is hysterical, it is YOU Janice. I am starting to see just WHY you haven't had a relationship in 10 years. :)
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Thanks for the information on WHAM

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

I didn't know it existed until Kiin stupidly linked me to it. But thankyou :). It is another great source of information on the rorting that goes on at Kasamba.
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#87 Author of original report

All this just gives me more motivation to expose Kasamba

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

You know I read the abusive comments here and the rediculous ones about me being a psychic (I have posted the finshed parts of my research on the website so other members know that i am actually doing it and not playing some game) and then I read stories similiar to mine on another support group of which I am a member and I use it as motivation at 5.30 am to get up (most mornings - some times I am just too tired), make a coffee and work until about 7.30 when I get ready for work.

It is difficult sometimes especially since it has been a cold winter here. But, like I said in an earlier post, I took on the health system in my state as an employee and exposed some bad practices - and kept my job.

It took time but I was determined. I have read ALL the posts about Kasamba here and there are manymore reports of bad practices (and on the support groups there are similiar stories) than there comments supporting kasamba.

Blaming the victim, abuse and trying to discredit someone who reports a ripoff is a example of behaviour from people who are 'hideous'.

But, as I said, for me it is all motivation to continue. i experienced the same 'blame the victim' attitude from some people when I took on the health system. It is an example of their personality, not mine.
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#88 UPDATE Employee

Nothing more to say.

AUTHOR: Freya4 - (U.S.A.)

I really have nothing more to say on this topic now, I really do hope that after Janice's last post, that it has become much more evident the type of person that she is. I mean honestly, if there is ANYONE at all out there still feeling an ounce of sorrow for her, all you need to do is READ this once again:

" For example Powerful Visions took $4,000 of my money told me over and over again June/July would be spent with this guy and then, when I informed her that the predictions did not work, out blamed me. "

My god. Now, I am familiar with the expert 'Powerful Visions' ..She has always charged $16 per minute, Now I divided 4000 by 16 and I got... 250!?!?! That's 250 MINUTES, that's over FOUR HOURS. What in Gods good name could you possibly need to discuss with a $16 p.m Psychic for over FOUR HOURS???!!! It absolutely mind boggles me. I have had readings with Psychics on Kasamba in the past, and I make certain that the reading does not go over 10 minutes, as I feel 10 minutes is enough time to have my most pressing questions/concerns discussed.. And if I do need an update of sorts, I will either email said expert or go back for 3-4 minutes just for a quick update, then I will LEAVE IT BE and see what happens. But FOUR HOURS? That is just sheer insanity and I cannot for the life of me understand how any person can willingly spend $4000 on an online psychic.. No matter how 'vulnerable' you were or no matter 'what state you were in' that is absolutely mindblowing to me. Just because you were not in a positive mind frame doesn't mean you had no self control over your credit card! And as a grown adult, wouldn't you realise after the first couple hundred... hell even thousand dollars that something is not right and that you should have a little self control?

I mean really, what more proof do people even need here that it is the client who needs to issue the self control. Was it wrong that the expert continued to read for a client who had spent in thousands? I do believe so yes, however the expert would have no client to read for had they issued some common sense and self control. The client is much more aware of their financial state than the expert is aware of the clients financial state, If you are spending that kind of money on online readings I would ASSUME that the only logical reason is that you have copious amounts to spend, but it is evidently not the case.

And that is just ONE of the psychics, the truth really is unfolding right here.
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#89 Author of original report

lol..no I am not THAT Janice....whoever she is

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

In fact, I don't have enough time to do readings. I am not a psychic. I sent an email from my work address to one of the people who joined the forum to prove that I am, in fact a researcher in health.

I am happy to prove that to anyone who proves to me that they are not a psychic.

As for being a truly hideaous person, Freya you're hysterical again (and abusive). Your comments show more about your persoanlity than mine.

I accept responsbilility that I aloowed myself to be sucked in but there are many other people who have had the same experiences.

I really don't care what anyone thinks. I am going to do what I have planned. There is NOTHING anyone can say to make me change my mind.

It may take a little time to assemble everything as I DO work in researrch and wake up early (5.30 am) to work on it before I go to the hospital (I do research on eldelry people and respiratory disease). After work I go to the gym. I live with and look after my aged father who is very frail so time is short.

However, since I have the skills to put everything together and people in organisations tend to listen to me because of my academic qualifications I have decided to devote a specific amount of effort on this project.
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#90 Consumer Comment

My experience with Kasamba

AUTHOR: Isa - (U.S.A.)

IN early spring I lost my cat. I was very, very worried about him and contacted Kasamba hoping to get a handle on where he might be. The first person i spoke with told me right up front that he couldn't get a feel for the cat. He told me the cat is confined in something and asked if there is a brick building near by. The school is right around the corner from me. He told me to go there and check everything that has a lid, that he thinks the cat jumped into something and can't get out. I did as told, but to my dismay. no cat. I contacted another pyschic, and she told me not to get all worked up that she sees the cat locked in something like a shed or garage. That the people will come home and that he will be let out, she said by nightfall or early morning. she said there are alot of boxes around him and that it looks like he went in to investigate the boxes and was locked in accidently. So I waited and waited, and lo and behold, at around 9"30 that evening here he comes walking up the patio. He smelled funny, like old clothes, musty smell. In a way the 1st person was right too, he was locked in something. And he told me right from the start that he couldn't get afeel for the cat. But the 2nd one I think did get a feel for him right away . I have called on pyschics for over 20 years now, I have 3 that are my favorite.. But one thing that I notice in your report is that you kept asking for advice from a lot of different advisors. That is bad karma. seeing a lot of different advisors in a small time frame with the same questions over and over messes up what the universe has in store for you. It is like you are constantly changing the channel, before the show starts. I think that may have screwed things up for you. Kasamba is a good site in my book
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#91 UPDATE Employee

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AUTHOR: Jane - (U.S.A.)

I'm sorry you were led on by those so-called "psychics". Those people are fairly well-known for being high-priced hacks. There are some other Rip-off reports about them, if I remember correctly.

There ARE genuine psychics on Kasamba but they are hard to find, as about 99.9% of them don't charge astronomical rates and that keeps them off the front page of listings. I'm genuine, and I've had readings with other genuine readers. The real test of a psychic's accuracy isn't how they read the future but how they read your past and present. If they can't manage that accurately, either they suck, are having an off day and probably shouldn't be reading at all, or there isn't a good connection there and you'd be better served by a different psychic who can make the connection with you.

But please, only go after those who cheated you, not all of the Kasamba psychics. To some, it's their livelihood, the second income they bring into their home to help make ends meet. Perhaps you'll help make Kasamba realize that the scammers make the entire site look bad.
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#92 Consumer Comment

Janice is kasamba reader was outed on Wahm posted the same VICTIM Forum Address

AUTHOR: Kiin - (U.S.A.)

I thought you might find it interesting to note that Janice is currently a Kasamba reader doing readings on a daily basis. She posted these same, almost word for word posts using the SAME EXACT VICTIM FORUM ADDRESS, on the Wahm Forum and was outed, all her reader names were given but of course the posts were removed immediately by the mediator when she responded with her evil, rude, obsessive, attacking, threatening posts...........she has gone by many names since she started on Kasamba, changes her photo and name often.

She has been kicked out of most groups, banned or suspended from posting. This is mind boggling to me that she has gone to this extent to bash kasmaba and other readers then to open a "victims" forum but yet work and collects a pay check from Kasamba. I am not going to post her reader name but she knows who she is and so do many many others. Her MO never changes.......always ugly, always evil, always dark, hurtful and threatening
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#93 UPDATE Employee

Responsibility lies with client as well as expert

AUTHOR: Gail - (Canada)

I am truly sorry to hear that you spend so much money and came back for false hope. It is true that some readers may have genuinely felt this would work out. Remember ALL have free will and outcomes can be changed. NO reader should ever claim 100 percent .......who do they think they are GOD???

I too am a reader. I am a healer, a coach and a counsellour, yes certified. I tell the truth of what I see so we are not all alike. If you truly want to go after someone be rational and go after the individual readers, as Kasamba is only the conduit between the client and the reader. We are ALL independant and NOT employees of Kasamba.

What is really sad is to hear you blame all these readers. You have a WHOLE LIST of names you went to. Let me ask you this.........did these readers say to you "This will only happen or come true if you keep coming back to me over and over and over again???" Or was it YOUR choice to repeatedly go to readers and WILLINGLY spend your money on yet another reading as you were so insecure?

While we are talking about ETHICS, let me say this: It is highly UNETHICAL to say all psychics are rip off artists......that is simply JUST not true. There are those of us who have helped solve criminal cases becuase we were correct when asked to help. There are those of us who have brought healing and empowerment and shown women HOW to get out of abusive relationships and taught them to realize WHAT THEY ARE WORTH. This has truly changed lives for the BETTER. There are readers like me who lower their rates to nothing or sometimes free to help those in need because it is not ethical to turn away someone in pain or suffering. There are those of us like myself who TELL a client they do NOT need to have a reading or they are spending too much money and becoming too reliant (YES i have told people that because I CARE and I am not in it for the money, I sincerely have a HEART)

Who MADE you go to so many different readers repeatedly??? Did they tell you you HAD to keep coming back over and over again? Or did you willingly go and hit the hire button each and every time??

I am truly sorry this happened to you. I hope that you find courage enough to put responsilbility where it lies. NO where on this site or any psychic site does it say 100 PERCENT ALL OF OUR PREDICTIONS COME TRUE and if they don't you can come after us. We are human and yes there are selfish readers out there unfortunately and they are NOT just on Kasamba. The responsible client should be able to watch their OWN budget.......their own emotional state.....and NOT be afraid to hear the truth. By the number of readers you went to it seems you were psychic shopping as well finding those who would tell you what you wanted to hear perhaps?
there is nothing worse than trying to tell someone that something is not going to happen.........because they have been to those who just tell them what they wanted to hear. We are the ones who then suffer the bad ratings for being honest with a client. But AT LEAST we hold our heads up high towards the light with pride as we are ethical and about truth.

Find the blessing in this as there is one. You have learned a HUGE lesson I hope and if you go after anyone go direct your bitterness to the specific readers who had you coming back over and over and over again who were apparently wrong. You cannot PROVE that these readers did not actually give you that information as that is what they were getting at the time of the reading.

As for experts that talk about clients........I have never had or met any reader on Kasamba that has ever suggested or even hinted that transcripts be shared. It is simply not ethical.

Be aware of those who offer to bring your lover back or do a spell.......there is NO such thing. Common sense will tell you WE CANNOT control the actions of another .......no matter what.

I hope you find love and light in your heart and are able to move on and have a happy fulfilling life full of love and all that your heart desires. Stop spending your life and your energy on negative emotion.....and move forward with positive having learned a huge lesson.
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#94 Author of original report

The majority I saw lead me on, took my money and made excuses

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

I was vulnerable and the majority that I spoke to took advantage of that. I know I should have known better but, as I read back the transcripts, it is clear that quite a few psychics strung me along.

For example Powerful Visions took $4,000 of my money told me over and over again June/July would be spent with this guy and then, when I informed her that the predictions did not work, out blamed me.

Master Z was the first one I saw and told me things would work out. In Augiust 2005 he said i would meet with this person in a few months and he thought Xmas 2005. Then he said Summer 2006. Finally, in January 2007 he said things would get a lot better. Well they didn't. I spent a lot of money on him. When I fell into depression he said maybe he was wrong with his predictions over the last two years but my problem was I needed to get closer to God.

Ru the Sourcer kept on telling me to trust him and then said there was some force of nature that prevented his predictions from turning out.

Psychic Princess said the problem was Morphogenetic Resonance.

In his reading in January 2006, Fruno told me that he knew "friends and logic tell you to take a different path with your heart my message to you is to throw all of that logic out of the window to follow your heart and embrace love. He said 100% that Xmas 2006 would be spent with this person.

Ladriele said 100% June 2006, then end of 2006 then finally, when I confronted here she said she April 2008 and of course she was happy to talk to me about this as long as I kept paying of course. In fact I told here I was in debt and very very depressed. Her last communication she tried to sell me a talisman for $2,000 that 'would help'.

Needless to say none of this happened and when I finally slipped into a bad depression most of the ones who were so happy to talk to me if I paid either came up with excuses or cut me off.

Mina said I didn't treat her with respect and she had done email readings cheaply for me (all of which were wrong).

There were 2 that didn't make those sort of promises or string me along. I have told both of them about my intentions.

By the way, it is not a vendetta. I have accepted I was conned and the money is gone and that it will not happen with the guy. That is not the point.

I am just working on bringing to light the ones that did con me. Of course there are a lot of psychics I did not see and, if down the track, when my research is ready, others want to join me and add their experiences they are welcome.

To be honest, I have learned so much from this and the websites for those hurt by the scam artists I doubt whether there are many genuine psychics on Kasamba.

I have read more about how people have been HURT and conned than I have about legitimate psychics.

At the end of the day, Kasamba needs to be investigated and I have already had some interest - enough to keep me working on it
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#95 UPDATE Employee

Of course not; however...

AUTHOR: Jane - (U.S.A.)

I agree that you were ripped off by some psychics and I certainly don't blame you for being angry and wanting to take action. In your past messages, though, you've made it sound as though your vendetta is against ALL the Kasamba psychics. If that isn't the case and you're gunning for only those who don't give a darn about their clients and only want money, I'm all for it. We always get frustrated and sad when someone comes to us and some other "psychic" has been leading them around by the nose, promising good outcomes if they get just one more reading or pay for a spell or a candle lighting or prayers. They're preying on people's emotions in a time of vulnerability and it's sickening.
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#96 Author of original report

The ethical ones shouldn't have anything to worry about

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

Should they?
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#97 UPDATE Employee

Why do they lie? I'll tell you...

AUTHOR: Jane - (U.S.A.)

Because there ARE scam artists out there and they want your money. There are scam artists in every profession, unfortunately, and for a profession that requires no credentials or formal education? It's incredibly easy to scam people out of money. Sorry to say, but the "psychics" who lied to you and told you to keep coming back and spending more of your money are scammers, but that's not to say that ALL of the Kasamba psychics are scammers. I read Tarot on Kasamba but I've also been a client a time or two. It does give me a leg up on knowing who's genuine and who's out for your wallet...I had a beautiful and accurate reading with a new expert, and it only cost me $2.50.

As for those psychics who discuss clients in private? They are completely unethical and are generally frowned upon by those who read the cards genuinely and regard it as a profession, not a hobby. We look at our role almost as though we're counselors...what goes on between ourselves and a client is private and should be kept that way. I belong to a public forum of lovely readers and we never discuss specific clients. We discuss generalities...the freebie seekers/abusers, the frustrating ones that keep coming back again and again in the hopes that our answer will magically change into what they want to hear, those that leave bad ratings despite the fact that we all do our best to give an accurate reading with the best of intentions at heart, and even vicious experts that do all they can to claw their way to the top. These are things we deal with every day.

A few tips? Avoid the ones on the first page of listings. They are there because they charge the most and make the most money, not because they're the greatest. Don't be afraid to hire from the middle of the pack, the ones that only charge a couple of dollars per minute. Dont' be afraid of new experts, their rates are often low in order to attract clients. Ratings are your guide...look at them all and see what they say.

If you're going to go to war against Kasamba psychics, leave the nice ones alone.
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What a hideous person you truely are.

AUTHOR: Freya4 - (U.S.A.)

Well for starters Janice, the fact that you believed in a Psychic who claimed 100% accuracy in predictions illustrates that you are/were poorly, if educated at all, on what a psychic reader is and what a psychic reading constitutes. It really does surprise me the little amount of research that people do before consulting a Psychic. I visit a Psychic on Kasamba once every three months, I deposit $50 into my balance and consult a Psychic. I take my time to read EVERY client review, go over the profile with a fine-tooth comb and do any google research I can on the Psychic I am interested in contacting (you would be surprised at the amount of articles, websites ect are dedicated to certain readers.) Prior to that, I did research on what a Psychic Reading should consitute, tips for avoiding fakes and frauds and just other general research to help me make the most out of my reading, it is, after all a PURCHASE. It seems here that you just completely splashed out with your credit card, spending thousands without looking into things.. Which is funny, if you were spending that amount of money in a store you would be doing as much research on the product, the store etc. etc. as you could to help get the best value, but since it is the internet people do not use their heads.

There are a few bad eggs on Kasamba, hell I know this, I think we ALL know this.. But there are also a few bad eggs in the Medical Field, the Legal Field, the Counselling field.. Just like there's bad eggs on Keen, AbsolutelyPsychicNetwork, CaliforniaPsychics heck I could go on and on, nobody is disputing the fact that there are unfortunately a few 'bad ones' on Kasamba.. But wherever you have work and money there are going to be dishonest people so to single Kasamba out on that is utterly unfair. But to make your rash generalisation that 'all Kasamba psychics are frauds' due to the mere fact that your predictions did not come to pass (which if you had actually done any research on psychic readings before you spent your thousands you will have realised that to accurately pinpoint a prediction timeframe wise is one of the most difficult things to do for a psychic) I find that to be absolutely ludacrous and utterly offensive, to myself and to the many hard working, honest people on Kasamba.

Janice you seem to be the type of woman who makes rash decisions without thinking them through, just judging by the context of your posts here on the ripoffreport you seem to have a compulsive personality and seems to be the type who can spend spend spend without thinking of the consequences, and once you have hit rock bottom and you REALISE, you go into hyperdefense mode, blaming everyone BUT YOURSELF for the money that YOU ultimately spent. Perhaps you should have consulted a mental health expert before you spent your thousands on internet psychics?

So you want to take Kasamba on, that's great Janice but what are you really trying to achieve here? Let's just say that 'you win' that you forever damage Kasambas reputation and destroy their business, what are you hoping to achieve? Whilst there are some bad people on that website, it is also a godsend for single mothers, people with disability and the like who are not able to work, who struggle to make ends meet that are truely blessed to have found Kasamba, so that they can once again work, help others, and make ends meet. You want to take this away from them? How bitter and utterly disgusting of you, simply because you are scorned that you can't control your credit card, you want to destroy a service that is a godsend for many around the world. The Psychics aren't the bad ones here Janice, you truely are the monster.
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#99 Author of original report

so why do the psychics lie to us

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

I have one psychic who promised 100% her predictions would come true. she reiterated this in subsequent emails i.e. she said "no, I was not wrong, IT WILL HAPPEN". When the predictions failed to happpen she blamed me because I was not positive. I provided proof to her that she was wrong and asked for the money back and she replied that she worked for Kasamba and therefore couldn't refund.

When I told Kasamba support that the about the depression the inaccuracy of these so called experst had caused, they refered me to other experts to deal with my mental health issues. THIS IS CLEARLY CONTRAVENES THEIR CONDITIONS OF SERVICE.

Excuses, excuses, excuses. I know someone who has a letter from one of the psychics admitting that they shared information.

But anyway. I am over my depression thanks to the assistance from a real mental health expert and I intend to proceed to bring the shonky practices to the attention of someone or an organisation who will investigate it.

Oh, and Freya, before you start blowing off about second rate chat shows let me tell you this is not the first time I have taken on a large organisation about some issues and won.

I am not depressed anymore. This is a project. I was told when I took on an organisation previously i was wasting my time - that they were too big and powerfull, that it was my fault - all that stuff...but I didn't listen to the people who told me it couldn't be done. It took awhile but i did it and I won.
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#100 UPDATE Employee

Just look at the FACTS.

AUTHOR: Freya4 - (U.S.A.)

This truely does hurt me, Kasamba is a wonderful website that provides the connection between Psychics and those in need of answers, and scorned people like yourselves are doing your best to ruin it. You have had negative experiences on Kasamba and I really am sorry to hear this, but there are people who have had wonderful, life changing experiences on Kasamba and have connected incredibly with Psychics.

I can understand where you are coming from, Janice & Sue. and I know you THINK that the points you are making are extremely valid, but in all honestly they are not, you claim to be 'presenting the facts' yet you are not looking at ALL the facts here, which questions your credibility on the topic.

People just need to realise that Kasamba is not an employer, it does not 'hire' these experts, it simply provides the space and traffic to free contractors to come and use the service, like someone setting up a stall at a market or fair.

The market/fair provides the SPACE for stalls, and collects a fee for renting out said space, however has no rights to what is and isnt sold. Psychic readings are subjective, and since there isn't a way to tell 'who is and isn't psychic' there is nothing Kasamba will or should do in regards to filtering experts unless they knowingly violate the terms of service, in which Kasamba acts upon VERY quickly and has been done in the past. Kasamba Psychics are NOT employee's of Kasamba.com

People also need to realise that a Psychic Reading is NOT a necessity, it is an ENTERTAINMENT PURCHASE, people have known for years that the whole psychic realm is one shrouded in the supernatural, and in mystery, yet with this knowledge in mind they continue to go ahead with the purchase.

People also know that no Psychic is 100% accurate and even Sylvia Browne herself claims only 87% accuracy. If you use the services provided in times of desperation, depression or great need and ultimately become 'addicted' .. Then you really have no one to blame other than yourself.

Now I know you say you are 'assembling the proof' however I really do wonder the extent of this proof. So you have predictions that have no come to pass, is that 'proof?' For every one of your predictions that did not come true, many others have and you only need to look at the expert ratings to see this.

Ultimately, all it comes down to, is that you are angry you have spent so much money on a service that is deemed as entertainment. That is your problem, learn to let it go. You want to 'warn potential clients' of Kasamba? What is there to warn them off? If they use their brains and spend their money wisely and treat the service as it is INTENDED to be treated, then there is absolutely nothing to 'warn' them about. I know, you're going to stab right back with 'warn them of the frauds!!!'

But again, you have no proof that any Psychic on Kasamba is a fraud and no, transcripts and 'failed predictions' are not proof. If you manage to find out that Voodoo Love Queen is really a construction worker named Bob from Minnesota, then get back to me.. But I have to say so far it is not looking good in your favor.
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#101 Consumer Comment

Blind faith in ANYTHING is a dangerous proposition.

AUTHOR: Karon - (Canada)

The point of my post was to show you that predictions DO happen. They happened for me. I've worked with many great individuals on Kasamba, and guess what? I DID get my ex back, after 2 years of separation. It happened for me and I have every reason to expect that we will continue to move forward together.

Did I listen to every piece of advice I was given? Certainly not. There were times when I knew what I was being told wouldn't fly, or it wasn't the right time to proceed. I used my own judgment. There were times I didn't listen and I should have. Either way, I still have to take responsibility for my OWN actions/non-actions.

Are there frauds out there? Most definitely. And I hope they rot for preying on individuals who are hurting and looking for comfort, hope and advice. It's truly disgusting. But not ALL of them are fakes, frauds and phonies. I have developed great relationships, personal relationships with my top readers, and I trust them -- but NEVER to the point where I would overrule my own judgment to follow theirs.

And when they were wrong? I PAID them to give me their OPINION. How can I hold them responsible? Nothing is ever written in stone.

And I agree with Karen (Henderson, NC). There are MANY women posting on the boards over and over, day after day, continually being told it's NOT going to happen, but they keep asking the question hoping for a different answer, psychic hopping, spending oodles of money, unable to accept the truth and move forward and then are angry because they didn't achieve the desired outcome. It's astounding.

Blind faith in ANYTHING is a dangerous proposition.

Be angry if you wish, but if you want to do a service to others who use psychics, find a list on the internet on how to get a good reading, how to spot a fraudulent psychic, scams, etc, and do some education to help people make good choices.

I wish you peace.
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#102 Consumer Suggestion

Kasamba, Psychics, and Relationships

AUTHOR: Karen - (U.S.A.)

Most of the time the complaints on here come from women who have had bad experiences via the Kasamba Psychics. Many of them seem to be asking about love and relationships. Many questions seem as if they are asking about ex's returning. The majority of the time the ex's never return. Its very rare that they do return to the relationship full force. If the ex is gone from the relationship for a significant amount of time there is a slim chance of any rekindling.

Granted readers shouldn't tell lies about these situation but are the clients of these psychics willing to hear the TRUTH of the situation? Some psychics are fake ,no doubt about it but its time the clients start to take responsibility for thier actions. Deep down inside of themselves they know the answer to the question they are asking about. Living in denial and putting ALL the blame on the psychic is just irresponsible on the part of the client.

You feel ripped off because perhaps you cant handle the truth and prefered to be told lies? For future reference if you are consulting a psychic be sure you are ready to accept the truth IF it is told and dont paint everyone with such a broad brush.
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#103 Consumer Comment

We get it!!

AUTHOR: Susan - (U.S.A.)

Karon - we all understand that we are responsible for having "hit hire" and we all understand that "no psychic can be 100%", all about "free will", etc., etc., etc.

The problem here is that ALL those that respond in a defensive manner on Kasamba's behalf refuse to realize that we are not disputing all of that. IF you read our posts - the goal here is to bring to light the truth, warn other potential victims and the indisputable facts.

So, to continue to counsel us all on our poor judgement, inability to "move on", solve our own problems, etc. is pointless. ALL the defensive posts on behalf of the "Experts" miss EVERY point. I have spoken via e-mail with multiple "Experts" that have confirmed my claims and I have substantial information to support what I've said. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and to exercise their right to free speech. So, to continue to counsel us and remind us of the obvious is nothing but an exercise in futality.

I find these advisements "for entertainment purposes" due to the fact that the statements from the "Experts" drastically conflict what they tell you when they are collecting money from customers (wink). Bringing the facts to light here IS the right thing to do and an exercise of "free will".
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#104 Consumer Suggestion

I'm sorry for your experiences.

AUTHOR: Karon - (Canada)

But I have to say that I have used several of those you have mentioned and they have been 80-90% accurate for me in my situation, and what they foresaw for me did in fact come to pass. No psychic or intuitive, regardless of what they say is 100% accurate. It's just not possible and to believe otherwise is foolish. Everyone in this world has free will and every decision either party involved makes can change the outcome of tomorrow.

It is unfortunate you spent 1000s of dollars on readings, but we still have the responsibility to use our own common sense and judgment and to continue to work towards our own desired outcomes. Believe me, I feel for you. But again, in the end, it is we, the client, who chooses to hit the hire button, and to keep coming back for more.
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#105 Author of original report

Kasmaba group

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

Hi Susan,

We need to make sure we are not scattered all over the place if we are going to be able to do something. Try to access the group again. It is a yahoo group called Kasmabavictims

tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/kasambavictims/

Others have got there so please try again.

I have made a decision to continue with putting together everything that I have and following it up with bringing it to the attention of an organization that will investigate the practices of the psychics.

It may be a powerful company but there are plenty of example of consumers and consumer advocates exposing the practices of powerful companies

Anyway, Susan we NEED to all be in the same place and as ripoff report won't allow email addresses, please try to get to Kasambavictims
Janice
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#106 Consumer Comment

Don't waste your energy

AUTHOR: Susan - (U.S.A.)

Janice - I hear ya loud and clear - like you, I have information that I would never post. Obviously, Freya4's responses are what they are - and why bother responding? Once again, this is a "free speech nation".
I've been unable to access that web address... what am I missing. Also - hopefully we can connect on that site in a different manner. I found another site where people have been posting their Kasamba "stories".
This is not about "proof" - this is about educating consumers. The best and fair way and anyone has the right to bring their concerns to light.
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#107 UPDATE Employee

Not at all!

AUTHOR: Freya4 - (U.S.A.)

Hysterical. Not at all, I am simply stating the facts, as personally I feel your venture is foolish. But I am not going to argue here, as it will get us nowhere, I did not even want to reply here, but felt I had to atleast deliver the perspective from 'the other side of the fence.' I do hope you can respect that!

If going ahead with this is your wish, then by all means goodluck, I just fail to see what you could possibly 'uncover' about Kasamba, as there are no hidden tricks, no secret charges or loopholes, unlike a Miss. Cleo hotline - everything is laid out here on the table and you are fully aware of the charges you are making and the people that you are making them too, I also fail to see what media outlet in their right mind would take up such a task, risking their professional & journalistic image by going simply by the hearsay of a bunch of obviously bitter and scorned 'former clients' who are cleary not in a stable mind frame if they have had to spend amounts in the high thousands on internet psychics.

But once again, if that is what you want to do then I wish you all the best in your discoveries.

Just on a note, if this IS what you want to do, realise Kasamba is a VERY large, powerful company that has just been bought by an even bigger, more powerful conglomorate in 'LivePerson.' You are putting yourself at legal risk for slander and defimation just to name a minute few by going ahead with this project. And no, that is not a 'threat' as I do not work personally for Kasamba, I am just bringing to your attention the potential risk factors that you should be weighing up, perhaps you should not act as irrational with this as you have acted with your money on Kasamba.

The company has been around now for over 4 years, I am sure if they were doing anything 'wrong' it would have been brought to light by now!!

Love & Light!
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#108 Consumer Suggestion

We are going to assemble the proof

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

There is nothing that an employee of Kasamba can say to stop us assembling the proof. For example, I have an email from a Kasamba employee, not a psychic, but a member of the support team that contravened their terms of service.

I have proof that the predictions were wrong.

If Susan and I and others join together we can provide enough combined proof to initiate an investigation.

You are sounding hysterical Freya - me thinks thou doth protest too much...lol...worried are you?

You ask 'where is the proof? We will provide it - but not of course to any employee.

It is pointless trying to stop this by using abuse or whatever. The group has been started.

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/kasambavictims/

I aready have identified some avenues to use as a means to get start an investigation.

So give up on the vitriol - it is not going to stop us.
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#109 Author of original report

link to group for people ripped off by Kasamba

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

Here is the link to the group
tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/kasambavictims/
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#110 UPDATE Employee

Again, where's the PROOF?

AUTHOR: Freya4 - (U.S.A.)

Where is the PROOF Susan? The proof that the Psychics are fraudulent, the PROOF that experts share information with other experts? You have none. Absolutely none, no right media outlet would conduct such an investigation without any proof what so ever, and besides a few predictions that did not pan out, you have absolutely no proof. YOU and all these other scorned clients are simply jumping to the conclusion that 'all online psychics are fakes.' & 'All experts share information with other experts' simply because your outcome was not as desired.

And as far as the 'addiction' part is concerned, that is not Kasamba's problem. Kasamba does NOT have to cover themselves for unstable, depressed people who become addicted to their services. People become addicted to Online Gambling & Pornography, and spend thousands on such services. The provider of such services is not at fault, it is the PEOPLE who use these services, if you are unstable and have an addictive personality YOU SHOULD NOT BE USING SUCH SERVICES IN THE FIRST PLACE! YOU ARE *GROWN ADULTS* WHO SHOULD BE TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR OWN ACTIONS! Stop blaming everyone else because YOU spent too much money. The clients on here are like children, they get their money and they go and spend spend spend it all without thought of what the consequences may be, and once it is all spent they cry, they complain and they carry on because they did not THINK before they purchased.

A Psychic reading is a purchase. You are made fully aware of how much this service will cost you as per individual expert, you are also fully in control of when you decide to initiate payment and when you stop. You are also made aware that NO EXPERT IS 100% ACCURATE therefor you MUST realise that there is chance that predictions and outcome may not turn out as first foreseen. Yet with this knowledge, you still choose to make your purchase, so I fail to see how it is anybodies fault OTHER than addictive clients who need to have their credit cards slashed.

Also, if you READ Kasamba's terms of use, they will ONLY refund you if the reading was plagued by technical error/glitches OR if they service provided was not as described, for example you go in for a psychic reading and the expert babbles on about the weather throughout the paid session. YOU AS CLIENTS, have FULL KNOWLEDGE of the refund policies, that simply because a reading did not 'pan out' as was first predicted DOES NOT COME UNDER THE REFUNDS POLICY, so you STILL SPEND YOUR MONEY knowing this. Again, who is at fault here?

You get a bunch of hysterical former clients together on this board and you all bounce off one another without looking at the facts, well the facts are right here in front of you, so stop these rediculous games and issue more self control next time when it comes to spending your money. And perhaps READ the terms of service before you make such a purchase.
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This is just the sort of response that I expected from an employee

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

Employees like Freya are the reason I am doing something about Kasamba.

Her vitriolic response mirrors the sort of responses that I got from the psychics that were wrong when I told them NOTHING they said came true.

The psychics market themselves as 'experts', well the definition of an expert is a"

"Person trained and practiced in some branch of work or knowledge; one possessing special experience, knowledge, information; a specialist; a linguistic, chemical expert, mining expert.

I am an expert in my field of work - I have a PhD. Most of the psychics are not 'experts'. In fact, Kasamba support asked me to not to refer to them as 'experts' in the research I am preparing for the media.

I may have made bad choices but I was vulnerable at the time and, as other posts have shown, there appears to be a lot of less than ethical practices.

At the very least I can prepareenoigh information for the IRS. I BET not every dollar earned by the psychics has been declared. It shouldn't be too difficult for the IRS to check.

Who knows, I may not be able to do anything but I am sure going to try. I have the skills to organise enough research from my own experiences. Plus, it is amazing how people respond to someone with some credibility. I have ALREADY had responses from interested parties and I have only just commenced.
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#112 Consumer Comment

You are right!

AUTHOR: Susan - (U.S.A.)

Janice - I totally agree with you and will gladly participate in any opportunity to bring the unethical practices of the "Experts" on Kasamba. Please post any information you can as to how to proceed. As far as the response re:"oh please" - YES, Kasamba and it's "Experts" have themselves "covered", but there is proof that there is no such thing as "Psychic credentials" and it is the "bio's" and "profiles" that need to be investigated and the false claims in them will stop. As far as bringing this all out in the open and to the media - I feel it is to warn the general public that is not aware and to stop the unethical encouragement to come back, the sharing of information between "experts" and the overall persistance by the "Experts" that gives the vulnerable a false sense of security.

No one is not taking responsibility for their own actions - we have learned from our mistake and are trying to inform Kasamba's potential victims. The defensive responses to these postings never discuss what the "Experts" say to the client's and how they mislead them with their "profiles". Almost all of the initial reviews are 5 star and are often by the same client's repeatedly. What the public needs to know is that any of those reviews could be by people that had a 1-2 minute reading under many usernames to make it look like the "Expert" is legitimate. We are not saying that every "Expert" on Kasamba is a fraudulent.

What we are saying is that what is written on the site and what happens with the individual "Expert" is not always as it seems. People need to know how to really read the reviews - note that many reviews are by the same person/username and that many reviews are a 1 time thing. They also need to know about the billing practices - the credit holds that are put on their credit cards - how the "Experts" react when you respond negatively and how they lure you into coming back by being so "willing".

YES, the site is for entertainment purposes, but that disclaimer does NOT cover the depth of the danger of becoming a client. Plus, EVERYONE is entitled to their opinion and this is a "free speech" nation. So, "Oh please" is what I say to those that are posting negative responses to people trying to help Kasamba's next potential victims.
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#113 UPDATE Employee

Oh please.

AUTHOR: Freya4 - (U.S.A.)

Oh Janice please, don't make yourself out to look anymore foolish than you already are!

You're going to go to the media with this? That's all well and good, so the media go to 'investigate' Kasamba.com.. and what do they find?

1. A profesionally designed website, with an easy to navigate layout listing all catagories and subcatagories.

2. On the Psychic Readings catagory, which you are trying to launch this 'expose' into.. What do they find? A ranked list of all the Psychics, with names, pictures and a short bio.. along with their per minute price, link to their full profile and CLIENT RATING out of 5 stars, with full comments, all left by PAID CLIENTS. If they view the top experts recent rankings, they will be met with countless 5 star ratings, along with comments such as 'connected so well!' or 'predictions came to pass!' negative ratings are in the MINORITY.

3. Take a look at the Expert to Client communication suite? They will find that YOU, THE CLIENT CONTROL THE BILLING. *YOU* choose when (if) you initiate the paid service and *YOU* the client choose when you wish to discontinue the paid session with said expert, this is AFTER you have spoken FOR FREE, one on one with the chosen expert and made the decision as to wether they are right for you.. Oh, it is all sounding SO unfair, isn't it?

4. And finally? The final cherry on the cake? The ROCK SOLID, VAULT TIGHT Terms of Service for Kasamba.com, the SAME terms YOU AGREED TOO, YOU AND EVERY OTHER CLIENT ON KASAMBA, when you created an account on this website. Perhaps you should READ these terms and familiarise yourself with them, as Kasamba has EVERY POSSIBLE CORNER, COVERED!


So I fail to see the big 'expose' you have planned on Kasamba, so you and a few other scorned clients, who had negative experiences with online Psychics, go on one of those seedy current affairs programs to what, lift the lid on Kasamba? So far it is not looking good in your favour, you just seem like a pathetic bunch of bitter people who have issued no self control when it comes to spending your money. Let me tell you, judging by the vast majority of client ratings it seems YOU ARE IN THE MINORITY HERE.

There is also absolutely no proof that these Psychics are fraudulent. Simply because their predictions did not pan out for you, they are frauds? If a Doctor mis-diagnoses you.. Are they frauds? If a Lawyer loses your case, is said Lawyer a fraud? Psychic Readings are an ENTERTAINMENT SERVICE, A LUXURY. They are NOT A NECCESSITY!

You were not 'taken advantage of' by anyone. You were simply stupid and did not show ANY self control when it came to spending your money on services on the internet. That is YOUR PROBLEM. Stop trying to bring others down due to your ill choices in life.

Psychic Readings are a luxury service enjoyed by most, but when bitter, depressed people like yourself, who obviously need a psychiatrist or a counsellor, abuse the service and become addicted and are SCORNED because they have spent all their money come to this board, it is just not a good result for any concerned.

So go to the media Janice, see what they can 'dig up' about Kasamba, because from where I see it, it is a very professional service, that is legally bound and following all the rules. So where's your proof?
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#114 UPDATE Employee

Oh please.

AUTHOR: Freya4 - (U.S.A.)

Oh Janice please, don't make yourself out to look anymore foolish than you already are!

You're going to go to the media with this? That's all well and good, so the media go to 'investigate' Kasamba.com.. and what do they find?

1. A profesionally designed website, with an easy to navigate layout listing all catagories and subcatagories.

2. On the Psychic Readings catagory, which you are trying to launch this 'expose' into.. What do they find? A ranked list of all the Psychics, with names, pictures and a short bio.. along with their per minute price, link to their full profile and CLIENT RATING out of 5 stars, with full comments, all left by PAID CLIENTS. If they view the top experts recent rankings, they will be met with countless 5 star ratings, along with comments such as 'connected so well!' or 'predictions came to pass!' negative ratings are in the MINORITY.

3. Take a look at the Expert to Client communication suite? They will find that YOU, THE CLIENT CONTROL THE BILLING. *YOU* choose when (if) you initiate the paid service and *YOU* the client choose when you wish to discontinue the paid session with said expert, this is AFTER you have spoken FOR FREE, one on one with the chosen expert and made the decision as to wether they are right for you.. Oh, it is all sounding SO unfair, isn't it?

4. And finally? The final cherry on the cake? The ROCK SOLID, VAULT TIGHT Terms of Service for Kasamba.com, the SAME terms YOU AGREED TOO, YOU AND EVERY OTHER CLIENT ON KASAMBA, when you created an account on this website. Perhaps you should READ these terms and familiarise yourself with them, as Kasamba has EVERY POSSIBLE CORNER, COVERED!


So I fail to see the big 'expose' you have planned on Kasamba, so you and a few other scorned clients, who had negative experiences with online Psychics, go on one of those seedy current affairs programs to what, lift the lid on Kasamba? So far it is not looking good in your favour, you just seem like a pathetic bunch of bitter people who have issued no self control when it comes to spending your money. Let me tell you, judging by the vast majority of client ratings it seems YOU ARE IN THE MINORITY HERE.

There is also absolutely no proof that these Psychics are fraudulent. Simply because their predictions did not pan out for you, they are frauds? If a Doctor mis-diagnoses you.. Are they frauds? If a Lawyer loses your case, is said Lawyer a fraud? Psychic Readings are an ENTERTAINMENT SERVICE, A LUXURY. They are NOT A NECCESSITY!

You were not 'taken advantage of' by anyone. You were simply stupid and did not show ANY self control when it came to spending your money on services on the internet. That is YOUR PROBLEM. Stop trying to bring others down due to your ill choices in life.

Psychic Readings are a luxury service enjoyed by most, but when bitter, depressed people like yourself, who obviously need a psychiatrist or a counsellor, abuse the service and become addicted and are SCORNED because they have spent all their money come to this board, it is just not a good result for any concerned.

So go to the media Janice, see what they can 'dig up' about Kasamba, because from where I see it, it is a very professional service, that is legally bound and following all the rules. So where's your proof?
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Oh please.

AUTHOR: Freya4 - (U.S.A.)

Oh Janice please, don't make yourself out to look anymore foolish than you already are!

You're going to go to the media with this? That's all well and good, so the media go to 'investigate' Kasamba.com.. and what do they find?

1. A profesionally designed website, with an easy to navigate layout listing all catagories and subcatagories.

2. On the Psychic Readings catagory, which you are trying to launch this 'expose' into.. What do they find? A ranked list of all the Psychics, with names, pictures and a short bio.. along with their per minute price, link to their full profile and CLIENT RATING out of 5 stars, with full comments, all left by PAID CLIENTS. If they view the top experts recent rankings, they will be met with countless 5 star ratings, along with comments such as 'connected so well!' or 'predictions came to pass!' negative ratings are in the MINORITY.

3. Take a look at the Expert to Client communication suite? They will find that YOU, THE CLIENT CONTROL THE BILLING. *YOU* choose when (if) you initiate the paid service and *YOU* the client choose when you wish to discontinue the paid session with said expert, this is AFTER you have spoken FOR FREE, one on one with the chosen expert and made the decision as to wether they are right for you.. Oh, it is all sounding SO unfair, isn't it?

4. And finally? The final cherry on the cake? The ROCK SOLID, VAULT TIGHT Terms of Service for Kasamba.com, the SAME terms YOU AGREED TOO, YOU AND EVERY OTHER CLIENT ON KASAMBA, when you created an account on this website. Perhaps you should READ these terms and familiarise yourself with them, as Kasamba has EVERY POSSIBLE CORNER, COVERED!


So I fail to see the big 'expose' you have planned on Kasamba, so you and a few other scorned clients, who had negative experiences with online Psychics, go on one of those seedy current affairs programs to what, lift the lid on Kasamba? So far it is not looking good in your favour, you just seem like a pathetic bunch of bitter people who have issued no self control when it comes to spending your money. Let me tell you, judging by the vast majority of client ratings it seems YOU ARE IN THE MINORITY HERE.

There is also absolutely no proof that these Psychics are fraudulent. Simply because their predictions did not pan out for you, they are frauds? If a Doctor mis-diagnoses you.. Are they frauds? If a Lawyer loses your case, is said Lawyer a fraud? Psychic Readings are an ENTERTAINMENT SERVICE, A LUXURY. They are NOT A NECCESSITY!

You were not 'taken advantage of' by anyone. You were simply stupid and did not show ANY self control when it came to spending your money on services on the internet. That is YOUR PROBLEM. Stop trying to bring others down due to your ill choices in life.

Psychic Readings are a luxury service enjoyed by most, but when bitter, depressed people like yourself, who obviously need a psychiatrist or a counsellor, abuse the service and become addicted and are SCORNED because they have spent all their money come to this board, it is just not a good result for any concerned.

So go to the media Janice, see what they can 'dig up' about Kasamba, because from where I see it, it is a very professional service, that is legally bound and following all the rules. So where's your proof?
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#116 UPDATE Employee

Oh please.

AUTHOR: Freya4 - (U.S.A.)

Oh Janice please, don't make yourself out to look anymore foolish than you already are!

You're going to go to the media with this? That's all well and good, so the media go to 'investigate' Kasamba.com.. and what do they find?

1. A profesionally designed website, with an easy to navigate layout listing all catagories and subcatagories.

2. On the Psychic Readings catagory, which you are trying to launch this 'expose' into.. What do they find? A ranked list of all the Psychics, with names, pictures and a short bio.. along with their per minute price, link to their full profile and CLIENT RATING out of 5 stars, with full comments, all left by PAID CLIENTS. If they view the top experts recent rankings, they will be met with countless 5 star ratings, along with comments such as 'connected so well!' or 'predictions came to pass!' negative ratings are in the MINORITY.

3. Take a look at the Expert to Client communication suite? They will find that YOU, THE CLIENT CONTROL THE BILLING. *YOU* choose when (if) you initiate the paid service and *YOU* the client choose when you wish to discontinue the paid session with said expert, this is AFTER you have spoken FOR FREE, one on one with the chosen expert and made the decision as to wether they are right for you.. Oh, it is all sounding SO unfair, isn't it?

4. And finally? The final cherry on the cake? The ROCK SOLID, VAULT TIGHT Terms of Service for Kasamba.com, the SAME terms YOU AGREED TOO, YOU AND EVERY OTHER CLIENT ON KASAMBA, when you created an account on this website. Perhaps you should READ these terms and familiarise yourself with them, as Kasamba has EVERY POSSIBLE CORNER, COVERED!


So I fail to see the big 'expose' you have planned on Kasamba, so you and a few other scorned clients, who had negative experiences with online Psychics, go on one of those seedy current affairs programs to what, lift the lid on Kasamba? So far it is not looking good in your favour, you just seem like a pathetic bunch of bitter people who have issued no self control when it comes to spending your money. Let me tell you, judging by the vast majority of client ratings it seems YOU ARE IN THE MINORITY HERE.

There is also absolutely no proof that these Psychics are fraudulent. Simply because their predictions did not pan out for you, they are frauds? If a Doctor mis-diagnoses you.. Are they frauds? If a Lawyer loses your case, is said Lawyer a fraud? Psychic Readings are an ENTERTAINMENT SERVICE, A LUXURY. They are NOT A NECCESSITY!

You were not 'taken advantage of' by anyone. You were simply stupid and did not show ANY self control when it came to spending your money on services on the internet. That is YOUR PROBLEM. Stop trying to bring others down due to your ill choices in life.

Psychic Readings are a luxury service enjoyed by most, but when bitter, depressed people like yourself, who obviously need a psychiatrist or a counsellor, abuse the service and become addicted and are SCORNED because they have spent all their money come to this board, it is just not a good result for any concerned.

So go to the media Janice, see what they can 'dig up' about Kasamba, because from where I see it, it is a very professional service, that is legally bound and following all the rules. So where's your proof?
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#117 Author of original report

I am going to create a website (((link)))

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

As I said else where there is already a support groups.google.com/group/psychicjunkie?lnk=oa&hl=en
in which people can gain support to stop calling psychics.

However, I am interested in people who want to be proactive and prepare their experiences to go to the media with me

Some people just want to move on and that is fine. however, if there are people who want to write up their experiences and go to the media with me then let me know. I am serious about this as I have already started on min.
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#118 Author of original report

I am going to create a website (((link)))

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

As I said else where there is already a support groups.google.com/group/psychicjunkie?lnk=oa&hl=en
in which people can gain support to stop calling psychics.

However, I am interested in people who want to be proactive and prepare their experiences to go to the media with me

Some people just want to move on and that is fine. however, if there are people who want to write up their experiences and go to the media with me then let me know. I am serious about this as I have already started on min.
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#119 Author of original report

I am going to create a website (((link)))

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

As I said else where there is already a support groups.google.com/group/psychicjunkie?lnk=oa&hl=en
in which people can gain support to stop calling psychics.

However, I am interested in people who want to be proactive and prepare their experiences to go to the media with me

Some people just want to move on and that is fine. however, if there are people who want to write up their experiences and go to the media with me then let me know. I am serious about this as I have already started on min.
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#120 Author of original report

re the website

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

the website is for people who want to break the dependency on psychics- i think a new group would need to be created in order to actually take proactive action
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#121 Author of original report

psychicjunkie

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

I wasn't the person who wrote about the website. I wrote the original report and someone responded to it. But anyway I found it on Google groups and it is called psychic junkie - http://www.psychicjunkie.net/
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#122 Consumer Comment

What is the name of the website?

AUTHOR: Susan - (U.S.A.)

Janice - you do not reference the name of the website. Please do. I think it's long overdue for all the victims of Kasamba to get together and bring this situation to the attention of the media. NOT for "revenge" - to spare the next victims. If you truly know of a site where you can contact other victims - please post it.
Thank you!!
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#123 Consumer Comment

I understand

AUTHOR: J - (U.S.A.)

Janice

I completely understand. My suggestion is at this point talk to others who have been ripped off.... go to a site by an author who understands too. Her name is Sarah and she wrote a book called Psychic Junkie.

There is a web site and great support group for all of us who put trust in these people only to be pulled under.

Trust me this group will set you back on your path.

take good good care of yourself.

sincerely
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Kasamba

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

Yes well thank you very much for the comments Chris. I can see that you are a kind person - not!

I am not stupid, in fact I have a PhD and have spent most of the last ten years doing research on chronic diseases as well as looking after aging parents. Because of the work I do elderly people have a chance of dealing with their illnesses with less pain and distress.

I may have been vulnerable and got caught but I have paid for it emotionally as well as financially as I am now fighting severe depression as well as trying to make my dying fathers days more comfortable.

I have been so depressed that i have contemplated suicide because of my experience with Kasamba. I have had a really bad few months because of this and people like you purport to understand but don't judge people unless you have the full facts.
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#125 Consumer Comment

Gee, Chris, do you mean I can't use Kasamba Psychics to make a $Zillion in the stock market?

AUTHOR: Thomas - (U.S.A.)

Oh, Gosh-darn, fiddle-faddle! Chris, you are a dream-stealer!

No, wait, this is not an Amway/Quixtar discussion.....

Oh, well, if those Kasamba Psychics were really able to help me make a $Zillion in the stock market, they would haave already done so for themselves and then they wouldn't be interested in talking to me, would they?

Gee, hope for another shortcut to a better life is dashed!
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#126 Consumer Comment

Gee, Chris, do you mean I can't use Kasamba Psychics to make a $Zillion in the stock market?

AUTHOR: Thomas - (U.S.A.)

Oh, Gosh-darn, fiddle-faddle! Chris, you are a dream-stealer!

No, wait, this is not an Amway/Quixtar discussion.....

Oh, well, if those Kasamba Psychics were really able to help me make a $Zillion in the stock market, they would haave already done so for themselves and then they wouldn't be interested in talking to me, would they?

Gee, hope for another shortcut to a better life is dashed!
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#127 Consumer Comment

Gee, Chris, do you mean I can't use Kasamba Psychics to make a $Zillion in the stock market?

AUTHOR: Thomas - (U.S.A.)

Oh, Gosh-darn, fiddle-faddle! Chris, you are a dream-stealer!

No, wait, this is not an Amway/Quixtar discussion.....

Oh, well, if those Kasamba Psychics were really able to help me make a $Zillion in the stock market, they would haave already done so for themselves and then they wouldn't be interested in talking to me, would they?

Gee, hope for another shortcut to a better life is dashed!
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#128 Consumer Comment

Gee, Chris, do you mean I can't use Kasamba Psychics to make a $Zillion in the stock market?

AUTHOR: Thomas - (U.S.A.)

Oh, Gosh-darn, fiddle-faddle! Chris, you are a dream-stealer!

No, wait, this is not an Amway/Quixtar discussion.....

Oh, well, if those Kasamba Psychics were really able to help me make a $Zillion in the stock market, they would haave already done so for themselves and then they wouldn't be interested in talking to me, would they?

Gee, hope for another shortcut to a better life is dashed!
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#129 Consumer Suggestion

Not A Stupid Person?

AUTHOR: Chris - (U.S.A.)

May I respectfully disagree? It's a shame that you spent hundreds of dollars & so much wasted effort to learn what most of us already know: THEY'RE ALL FAKES! Psychics, spellcasters, whatever...A BUNCH OF CR@P! The only thing they help you with is separating you from your money. They prey on desperate, depressed people & tell them whatever they want to hear in order to string them along as long as possible.

I could accomplish the same thing by waving my arms around & shouting, 'Ooga-booga, abracadabra, eenie-meenie-chili-beanie, _______' (fill in the blank with whatever the sucker wants)! You learned a valuable lesson; now go out, depend on yourself & create your own destiny.
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