- Report: #215833
Complaint Review: Keen And Or Niteflirt
| Keen And Or Niteflirt 100 First Street Suite 100
Sanfransisco, Illinois U.S.A. |
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Keen - Niteflirt Total scam Ripoff Sanfransisco Illinois
*UPDATE Employee: Speaking for myself, not others
* : The Bidding system can be kinda pricey... and people use fake ccs to scam operators
*Consumer Comment: NITEFLIRT...IS THIS ANOTHER SCAM? WHAT IS NIGHTFLIRT?
*Consumer Comment: NiteFlirt is a poorly operated company
*UPDATE Employee: Keen and Niteflirt are good companies...get your facts straight
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Do not Depend On Niteflirt!!
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: niteflirt is a great serivce
*UPDATE Employee: NITE FLIRT ROCKS!
*UPDATE Employee: $30 DOLLARS.....THE DILEMA CONTINUES ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*Consumer Comment: Keen & Niteflirt are only the "middle men"
*UPDATE Employee: I HAVE WORKED FOR NITEFLIRT SINCE 2004 IT IS NOT A SCAM
*UPDATE Employee: Niteflirt is not a scam
*UPDATE Employee: Niteflirt is not a scam
*UPDATE Employee: Niteflirt is not a scam
*UPDATE Employee: Niteflirt is not a scam
*UPDATE Employee: Unfair Criticism Of Niteflirt Phone Sex Operators!
*UPDATE Employee: Its true
*UPDATE Employee: Get a grip!
*UPDATE Employee: Did you even try?
*UPDATE Employee: Did you even try?
*UPDATE Employee: Did you even try?
*UPDATE Employee: Did you even try?
*UPDATE Employee: learn to read
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Bridgeview, Illinois
U.S.A.
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Search Tips#1 UPDATE Employee
Speaking for myself, not others
AUTHOR: hollygolitely - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, September 20, 2012
AS for advertising and being ripped off... the original compalint on here seems to be upset over $30 left in his account that was not returned. I agree with other flirts, if you had simply requested a check and THEN closed your account, you would have been following proper procedure. Many lessons can be learned from this... and that is, to have patience, follow the rules and procedures. I hope this helps anyone in the future to see that the Niteflirt site is simply a platform, offering services from many different people... and it is a great service....
Best Wishes
Holly
#2
The Bidding system can be kinda pricey... and people use fake ccs to scam operators
AUTHOR: Brokebase - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, August 29, 2009
There are plenty of bonuses to the system, you say how much, you say when. People who use multiple accounts are a problem, not only because they confuse the poor johns, but also because they dominate the top places.
I beleive the person who spend $30.00 is $20 trying to promote a listing, under the old system your value was determined your rating, this new system has a slew of factors and I feel like I am fairly web-saavy, but I get really confused from it. The most irritating factor is that newer listings cost less to promote, so I don't promote my best-perfoming listings in top spots because, to me - $3.00 a click is just insane.
About a month ago I was debited for a call, NF emailed me saying the person who called me was not authorized to use the card. It was about $20, and I feel rather ripped off as they take a connection fee and percentage on top of the insanley high bidding rates. Business has slipped, but Ingenio is staying out of the red on our dime.
On a final note, I briefly worked on the keen side doing tarot readings. Same problems there, but that site gets all the attention. The advisors there have blogs, they sent me a journal at christmas and the NiteFlirt side is the dirty little secret. I have been looking for a site that offers the same 800 relay service without all the BS.
#3 Consumer Comment
NITEFLIRT...IS THIS ANOTHER SCAM? WHAT IS NIGHTFLIRT?
AUTHOR: Joe - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, January 23, 2009
COULD SOMEBODY PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT NITEFLIRT IS SUPPOSED TO BE?
AND If you have been ripped off once before by KEEN.COM then WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO BE RIPPED OFF BY ANYTHING FROM THE SAME PLACE AGAIN??????
#4 Consumer Comment
NiteFlirt is a poorly operated company
AUTHOR: Sam - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, January 22, 2009
The main problem with NiteFlirt is that most of the speakers don't enjoy what they do. If you can get into the "NiteFlirt speakers only" sections on psodivas.com you will see for yourself. They seem to absolutely hate the people who call them.
Some speakers use dozens or more different model photos and present them as separate listings; this is a problem for customers who don't like a particular speaker and do not want to speak to him or her again, yet they keep getting him or her under different listings with different photos.
The whole concept of NiteFlirt is TELEPHONE CONVERSATION so you'd expect the quality of the connection to be a high priority. It isn't. Most calls conducted through NiteFlirt suffer from low volume and distortion.
Customer service is hit and miss. I once asked a customer service agent for his name, not in a confrontational manner at all, and his response was "Why do you need to know that?"
Their automated by-the-minute billing system once continued to drain my account after I had completed a call. Their customer service said "that can't happen." But it did happen. I haven't used their service since then.
They also don't seem to have much concern about copyright infringement. Many speakers sell copies of model photos they purchased, which is not legal unless resale rights have been purchased from the copyright holder. I'm sure they're not aware that copyright infringement carries a potential penalty of up to $150,000 per incident since they are not earning a ton of money with them.
#5 UPDATE Employee
Keen and Niteflirt are good companies...get your facts straight
AUTHOR: The Goddess - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, November 15, 2008
#6 UPDATE EX-employee responds
Do not Depend On Niteflirt!!
AUTHOR: Niteflirtsucks - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, September 29, 2008
After you FINALLY have built a presence, and gained valuable and loyal clients, they can and will boot you off and ban you from ever going on there again! They wont give you any explanation, just a canned email.
I advertised all over the place for them, bringing in clients right and left for 3 years! Then for no reason, all of a sudden I am banned. They gave no reason and no warning!
I KNEW the rules, I had been there for 3 years. So dont say I must have broken the rules.
Do not depend on them!
#7 UPDATE EX-employee responds
niteflirt is a great serivce
AUTHOR: Guess - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, August 28, 2008
#8 UPDATE Employee
NITE FLIRT ROCKS!
AUTHOR: Mouthwash - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, August 18, 2008
I, on the other hand, and countless others, MAKE BANK on Niteflirt.
Geez, stop crying like a school girl over $30.00. You sound like a lazy fat broad that can't quite make it at anything in life, so you have to come running to this board.
Nobody feels sorry for you, because clearly you are a loser.
Niteflirt is my sole income, and I ALWAYS make good money.
Boo hoo to you! LOL!
#9 UPDATE Employee
$30 DOLLARS.....THE DILEMA CONTINUES ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AUTHOR: Phoenix - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, January 09, 2008
1. A brand new Toyota.
2. A larger home with a lake view.
3. The lovely cruise I took with my mom to Hawaii.
Brad dear, let's be honest. You probably spent that "WHOLE" $30.00 on girls like me on Nite Flirt. LOL!
That $30.00 broke the bank, huh? LOSER!!! lol!
#10 Consumer Comment
Keen & Niteflirt are only the "middle men"
AUTHOR: Amber - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, December 21, 2007
As far as your $30, you could have just requested a check or direct deposit, just like you would have if you would had you actually made the money from calls.
As far as everyone on there being fake, Niteflirt and Keen are a free for all. Anyone can sign up for it and anyone can create listings. If you think someone is fake or whatever the case is, there is a feedback feature. When you call someone who you believe doesn't fit their listing or is charging too much for what they offer, whatever the case is, just leave them feedback.
#11 UPDATE Employee
I HAVE WORKED FOR NITEFLIRT SINCE 2004 IT IS NOT A SCAM
AUTHOR: Harleyrose - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, December 01, 2007
SO FOR THE MEN OUT THERE LOOKING FOR NITEFLIRT GIRLS PLEASE READ THE LISTINGS AND FEEDBACK CAREFULLY BUT THERE ARE ALOT OF US HONEST NICE LOOKING WOMEN ON THERE TOO..
#12 UPDATE Employee
Niteflirt is not a scam
AUTHOR: Sabrina - (Canada)
SUBMITTED: Monday, June 25, 2007
First of all. Not all people on niteflirt are old ladies pretending to be young. I am 24 and I am a phone sex line operator on niteflirt. also I have a friend on nite flirt whos 19 and another whos 21.
Please get your facts straight before assuming and clumping EVERYONE in the same group.
Hell im not just 24 but im in a wheelchair, cant get much more real then that. I asure you im not fake lol and neither are my friends are niteflirt.
I suggest doing abit more studying and being a lil less ignorant before making extreme comments as you have.
Sincerly, Little kitte
#13 UPDATE Employee
Niteflirt is not a scam
AUTHOR: Sabrina - (Canada)
SUBMITTED: Monday, June 25, 2007
First of all. Not all people on niteflirt are old ladies pretending to be young. I am 24 and I am a phone sex line operator on niteflirt. also I have a friend on nite flirt whos 19 and another whos 21.
Please get your facts straight before assuming and clumping EVERYONE in the same group.
Hell im not just 24 but im in a wheelchair, cant get much more real then that. I asure you im not fake lol and neither are my friends are niteflirt.
I suggest doing abit more studying and being a lil less ignorant before making extreme comments as you have.
Sincerly, Little kitte
#14 UPDATE Employee
Niteflirt is not a scam
AUTHOR: Sabrina - (Canada)
SUBMITTED: Monday, June 25, 2007
First of all. Not all people on niteflirt are old ladies pretending to be young. I am 24 and I am a phone sex line operator on niteflirt. also I have a friend on nite flirt whos 19 and another whos 21.
Please get your facts straight before assuming and clumping EVERYONE in the same group.
Hell im not just 24 but im in a wheelchair, cant get much more real then that. I asure you im not fake lol and neither are my friends are niteflirt.
I suggest doing abit more studying and being a lil less ignorant before making extreme comments as you have.
Sincerly, Little kitte
#15 UPDATE Employee
Niteflirt is not a scam
AUTHOR: Sabrina - (Canada)
SUBMITTED: Monday, June 25, 2007
First of all. Not all people on niteflirt are old ladies pretending to be young. I am 24 and I am a phone sex line operator on niteflirt. also I have a friend on nite flirt whos 19 and another whos 21.
Please get your facts straight before assuming and clumping EVERYONE in the same group.
Hell im not just 24 but im in a wheelchair, cant get much more real then that. I asure you im not fake lol and neither are my friends are niteflirt.
I suggest doing abit more studying and being a lil less ignorant before making extreme comments as you have.
Sincerly, Little kitte
#16 UPDATE Employee
Unfair Criticism Of Niteflirt Phone Sex Operators!
AUTHOR: Kelly - (United States Minor Outlying Islands)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, May 16, 2007
What I have been, however, is paid extremely well. Really, it's all in the effort that you put out. And, you, quite frankly, sound like a lazy bum that doesn't bother to read instructions. No wonder you floundered! LOL!
The psyhics I have spoken to have been outstanding, by the way. You probably have no skill in giving readings and/or your listings looked like the work of a five year-old.
As far as the adult side of it, perhaps that's where your money really went!
You made crappy comments about the good people that work on Keen. It sucks to be a loser, doesn't it?
Suck it up my friend, and get a life. Better yet, put down the crack pipe and get a job.
#19 UPDATE Employee
Did you even try?
AUTHOR: Jessica - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, November 21, 2006
First, when working with niteflirt you are your own boss. It us up to you to bring traffic to your own page and to get callers. Niteflirt helps by allowing you to feature your listing however this is not mandetory. Yes, it costs money to do that. However, that is because it is ADVERTISING on their site. You pay per click. Which means that if someone clicks on your ad you pay whatever amount you designated. Anyone with common sense would tell you to be wary of how much you put per click. I usually put between 10 and 50 cents depending on the category my listing is in. I usually spend less than $2 per day and still get calls.
Also you are allowed 20 listings per account. Not 3. I have 7 on my account. You're allowed to have multiple accounts if you wish but that's when you need different e-mail addresses and whatnot.
As for what the other flirts are like...well that depends. Some are great and some aren't. Because niteflirt doesn't "hire employees" but rather provides a SERVICE for those who wish to start their own companies, these people aren't screened. So, you get some that are great and some that aren't. That happens with any company in this business though. You can't hold the service providor (niteflirt/keen) for the business practices of those who use their service anymore than you can be upset with a phone company for telemarketers.
Don't get so angry just because YOU used bad business sense. By spending more money than you needed to on featuring and not promoting yourself outside the site (there are free and legal ways to do that) or even doing research on HOW to feature and promote...you just set yourself up.
How much money did I spend before I got my first call? $2! And since then I haven't added any money to my account. I get calls, get paid, and use that money to promote myself more. Whatever is left over goes straight into my bank account. I'm quite happy with it!
#20 UPDATE Employee
Did you even try?
AUTHOR: Jessica - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, November 21, 2006
First, when working with niteflirt you are your own boss. It us up to you to bring traffic to your own page and to get callers. Niteflirt helps by allowing you to feature your listing however this is not mandetory. Yes, it costs money to do that. However, that is because it is ADVERTISING on their site. You pay per click. Which means that if someone clicks on your ad you pay whatever amount you designated. Anyone with common sense would tell you to be wary of how much you put per click. I usually put between 10 and 50 cents depending on the category my listing is in. I usually spend less than $2 per day and still get calls.
Also you are allowed 20 listings per account. Not 3. I have 7 on my account. You're allowed to have multiple accounts if you wish but that's when you need different e-mail addresses and whatnot.
As for what the other flirts are like...well that depends. Some are great and some aren't. Because niteflirt doesn't "hire employees" but rather provides a SERVICE for those who wish to start their own companies, these people aren't screened. So, you get some that are great and some that aren't. That happens with any company in this business though. You can't hold the service providor (niteflirt/keen) for the business practices of those who use their service anymore than you can be upset with a phone company for telemarketers.
Don't get so angry just because YOU used bad business sense. By spending more money than you needed to on featuring and not promoting yourself outside the site (there are free and legal ways to do that) or even doing research on HOW to feature and promote...you just set yourself up.
How much money did I spend before I got my first call? $2! And since then I haven't added any money to my account. I get calls, get paid, and use that money to promote myself more. Whatever is left over goes straight into my bank account. I'm quite happy with it!
#21 UPDATE Employee
Did you even try?
AUTHOR: Jessica - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, November 21, 2006
First, when working with niteflirt you are your own boss. It us up to you to bring traffic to your own page and to get callers. Niteflirt helps by allowing you to feature your listing however this is not mandetory. Yes, it costs money to do that. However, that is because it is ADVERTISING on their site. You pay per click. Which means that if someone clicks on your ad you pay whatever amount you designated. Anyone with common sense would tell you to be wary of how much you put per click. I usually put between 10 and 50 cents depending on the category my listing is in. I usually spend less than $2 per day and still get calls.
Also you are allowed 20 listings per account. Not 3. I have 7 on my account. You're allowed to have multiple accounts if you wish but that's when you need different e-mail addresses and whatnot.
As for what the other flirts are like...well that depends. Some are great and some aren't. Because niteflirt doesn't "hire employees" but rather provides a SERVICE for those who wish to start their own companies, these people aren't screened. So, you get some that are great and some that aren't. That happens with any company in this business though. You can't hold the service providor (niteflirt/keen) for the business practices of those who use their service anymore than you can be upset with a phone company for telemarketers.
Don't get so angry just because YOU used bad business sense. By spending more money than you needed to on featuring and not promoting yourself outside the site (there are free and legal ways to do that) or even doing research on HOW to feature and promote...you just set yourself up.
How much money did I spend before I got my first call? $2! And since then I haven't added any money to my account. I get calls, get paid, and use that money to promote myself more. Whatever is left over goes straight into my bank account. I'm quite happy with it!
#22 UPDATE Employee
Did you even try?
AUTHOR: Jessica - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, November 21, 2006
First, when working with niteflirt you are your own boss. It us up to you to bring traffic to your own page and to get callers. Niteflirt helps by allowing you to feature your listing however this is not mandetory. Yes, it costs money to do that. However, that is because it is ADVERTISING on their site. You pay per click. Which means that if someone clicks on your ad you pay whatever amount you designated. Anyone with common sense would tell you to be wary of how much you put per click. I usually put between 10 and 50 cents depending on the category my listing is in. I usually spend less than $2 per day and still get calls.
Also you are allowed 20 listings per account. Not 3. I have 7 on my account. You're allowed to have multiple accounts if you wish but that's when you need different e-mail addresses and whatnot.
As for what the other flirts are like...well that depends. Some are great and some aren't. Because niteflirt doesn't "hire employees" but rather provides a SERVICE for those who wish to start their own companies, these people aren't screened. So, you get some that are great and some that aren't. That happens with any company in this business though. You can't hold the service providor (niteflirt/keen) for the business practices of those who use their service anymore than you can be upset with a phone company for telemarketers.
Don't get so angry just because YOU used bad business sense. By spending more money than you needed to on featuring and not promoting yourself outside the site (there are free and legal ways to do that) or even doing research on HOW to feature and promote...you just set yourself up.
How much money did I spend before I got my first call? $2! And since then I haven't added any money to my account. I get calls, get paid, and use that money to promote myself more. Whatever is left over goes straight into my bank account. I'm quite happy with it!
it seems that you did not make good use of the service that was available to you. niteflirt offers html schools for you to learn to make beautiful pages. as to how many listings you can have. you can have 3 accounts on one phone number. each account would have to have a different email address. and each account can have up to 20 live listings. and recordings. and the 30 you said you lost? that was promotional money more than likely and would not have been actual cash. you would have to use it on the website.
calling or buying videos or pictures or even tarot readings from others. promotional money is not cash. it sounds to me like you did not utilize the wonderful features that this website offers. im sorry you didnt do well on there. i have been on there for years and i do like it. good luck in whatever endevers you start.

