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Complaint Review: Keen/Ingenio
Keen/Ingeniowww.keen.com.uk Internet United Kingdom
Keen/ Ingenio Keen Psychic FAKES got me too.... for over $3000 dollars London United Kingdom
*Consumer Comment: Angelbaby of Light is a scammer
*UPDATE Employee: Well said Rivka
*UPDATE Employee: Well said Rivka
*UPDATE Employee: Well said Rivka
*Consumer Comment: psychic addiction
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Contrary to the public stereotype of "people who call psychics" portrayed as bohemian liberals waiting for the world to change, affluent trophy wives with nothing to do between pilates class and dinner with the Spielbergs, or crazy aunt Sally, I am a well educated professional, who was as skeptical as they come, and willing to "test" these professed guides in order to catch them spreading fictional tales of happiness.
It started with a couple of short calls to different psychics...some preferred to be called "seer" or "clairvoyant" to narrow the skill or focus they studied. Some used Tarot cards (which I still really don't understand, as there are a bizillion interpretations of the "queen with her hands out", and stuff like that) and some use, other tokens to get them "on track".
I will name 25 of the specific psychics that I spoke with. Most calls were at least 10 minutes, with some longer than 45 minutes, depending upon how into the conversation we got:
Tobias the Seer; Love Guide Maria, MsCherryTwo; 4corners; Moera; DeeRe; CoralAnn Psychic Priestess; Gifts of Faith; Earnest Ernest;Aeson Knight, ElizabethFrancis;Mushana;Master Psychic Vivian (who tried to fool me with a reading based on my favorite color); Arthur Lawrence; Sister Bianca; Mistic Visions; Lisa Dianne; Augustine Master Psychic; AlphaFemale; RaineDance; Everyone's Advisor; Visions by Carmela; Stella by Starlight; Jim 1537 and Helga Morrow.
Admittedly, I was dumbfounded when one of the "good ones" came out of nowhere with specific details of my parents individual illnesses, in a call last November. Truly amazing. He could NOT have deduced that from anything I gave him. I took detailed notes during each call, and I still go back to that psychic's call notes and shake my head in disbelief that his "guesses" could have been so right on. I asked "so do you have any feelings about my parents?". That's all I said. He said "well, your mom's recouperation from lower back surgery is taking longer than even she expected, and it's not really getting any better, she's still in alot of pain", and your father is very concerned about his mortality. Seems that since his heart surgery, he is trying to get the family records in order".
Well, guess what? That is EXACTLY what was going on. I almost wet my pants it was so right on. Not sure how he did that, but of course, that was my "proof" that he was absolutely real, and off we went into an hour's conversation that cost me over $300. At the time, I thought it was worth every penny. Reading back the notes, I'm still amazed at that conversation.
HOWEVER, the stuff he said about my love relationship (which is why I called) was so far off, it was painful to hear him keep talking...I said, a few times, "really? are you sure you have HIM? It doesn't sound like you're talking about so-n-so...that's so NOT him?". They reinforce and reiterate what they say, as a technique to increase trust.
If they change their answers mid-response, we would think they are wavering. At least if they are standing by their convictions, we tend to think..."hmmm....maybe I'M WRONG about him and they really know what's going on".
In my notes from the various sessions, I can find tidbits of insight that can be applied to my situation, but could probably be applied to yours also.
I feel as though, armed with some of this education, I can be one of their advisors too!
When someone asks about trouble with a guy, or "which guy is right for me" or "does he really like me, or is he just flirting"...I could say things like they say (and tell me if this is familiar) "Well, with him it's like two steps forward, and one step back. He isn't ready for a committed relationship, but he likes you and doesn't want to lose your friendship. But when he is, you are the person he wants to be with. Yes, he is aware you like him, but you are sending mixed signals and are very independent. Back off for a bit, and just be his friend. In about 2 months you will see him come around. Yes there are other women in his life, but he keeps comparing them to you, as you represent the benchmark of what he's looking for, but that scares him". Sound at all familiar? There are many versions of this type of response, and believe me, I've heard them all. Enough to give me hope, and enough fuel to embarrass myself with this guy who "supposedly likes me" but is showing it by dating other women, ignoring me, and NOT spending time with me when I ask...hmmm.
Sounds like they are providing a foundation for my obsessive infatuation to fester, rather than encouragement to seek healthy relationships elsewhere.
I've also heard that "baiting a psychic" and trying to test them is bad, as you will be messing with their reading when it should be open and honest. I would think that, if they were psychic, they could sense that game, and would tell you that you are "blocking their vibe" or something. I think it's another way of rationalizing wrong answers.
They also say that "free will" could change the outcome of any situation. Again, carte blanche for erroneous readings. This is their way of saying that divine intervention overrules anything they say, and thus, they are not responsible for relaying accurate information.
I KNOW that there are "real" individuals out there who have innate gifts that allow them to find missing people and solve murders. This is nothing about or against those folks.
This is only about those who hide under the "for entertainment purposes only" umbrella and turn psychic readings into a despised circus sideshow, which tarnishes those with the true gift of vision.
I just took the first step toward sanity, before writing this----I closed my Keen account. Will someone let me know if there is a 12-step program to psychic hotline addition recovery? I think I'll need to attend a few meetings.
Orange County, California
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