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Complaint Review: Keen.com - Ingenio, Inc

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  • Submitted: Sun, May 29, 2005
  • Updated: Tue, June 12, 2012

  • Reported By:san francisco California
Keen.com - Ingenio, Inc
100 California Street, Suite 400 San Francisco, California U.S.A.

Keen.com ripoff Psychics & Astrology Love & Relationships Psychics, Tarot Readers, Spiritual Astrology/Horoscopes Voices from Beyond, Pet Psychics the most immoral and unethical readers LadyPersephone, THELADYRHIANNON they even ripoff those in En Espaol Ingenio, Inc rip off liars Internet

*General Comment: Keen psychics

*Consumer Comment: GIFTED11, Donna Carvalho

*General Comment: As A Reader

*General Comment: As A Reader

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: I am Jagger

*Consumer Comment: Kathy

*Consumer Comment: So sad

*Consumer Suggestion: REPORT #258604

*Consumer Comment: Psychic Scams

*Consumer Comment: Joe you are so right

*Consumer Comment: AVOID THESE RIP-OFF PSYCHIC HOTLINES! ONLY IDIOTS AND LOSERS MAKE THEM A LIFESTYLE!

*Consumer Comment: Keen Fakes

*Consumer Comment: Queen of Cups wrong

*Consumer Comment: Queen of Cups wrong

*Consumer Comment: Queen of Cups wrong

*Consumer Comment: Queen of Cups wrong

*Consumer Comment: REGARDING QUEEN OF CUPS18!

*Consumer Comment: Queen of cups 18 and other coments...

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Justification

*Consumer Comment: When Will Jay Stop this Tirade

*Consumer Suggestion: Another Unethical Psychic - psychicangel1

*Consumer Suggestion: Another Unethical Psychic - psychicangel1

*Consumer Comment: Another liar bleueyes51

*Consumer Comment: MOST ONLINE PSYCHICS ARE FULL OF IT

*Consumer Comment: A Friendly,Not Hateful, Inquiry To Wanda The Psychic

*Consumer Comment: oh yeah...

*Consumer Comment: My clients are free to leave comments following a reading for up to thirty days.

*Consumer Suggestion: What We Have Here Is An "HONEST" Psychic. However,I am a skeptic.

*UPDATE Employee: Not Always

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Keen! Humm where do I begain!!!!!!!

*Author of original report: To Des in Australia, my experience backs up the post regarding the readers

*Consumer Comment: the fact remains ....people are quite incompetent regarding critical situations

*Consumer Comment: Shame on YOU!

*Consumer Comment: Jay, what are you trying to say??? You contact them and pay them for information and insight concerning your future, really expecting them to KNOW IT!

*Consumer Comment: Re: Keen.com: To the defenders of these disgraceful people

*Consumer Comment: Dawn, spend your money on me!!!!!

*Consumer Suggestion: Telephone Psychics Are Not The Best Idea To Date

*Consumer Comment: pierre, had I only thought years ago!!!

*Consumer Comment: Psychics are not psychologists and you are responsible for your life

*Consumer Comment: come here my suckers!!!!

*Consumer Comment: come here my suckers!!!!

*Consumer Comment: come here my suckers!!!!

*Consumer Comment: My Personal Experiences with One Named Keen Readers

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this post is lengthy and editing is shakey .... please bear with these factors

This is a list of the most immoral and unethical readers I had contact with from Keen.com. The first two are individuals Empress Dawn led me to beleive were deliberately misleading and laughing amongst themselves after.


LadyPersephone
THELADYRHIANNON


Eli Casey
Queen of Cups18
Deborahmills
djs25
PSYCHIC MICHAEL SEBASTIAN
Kat8051
Jeannie4569
EMPRESS DAWN
MADAM CHRISTINE
HAPPY2174
Lynn Hutchinson
Harmony2000
Storm Cestavani
Mistress Voice Reader
Master Of Destiny
brock kerrigan

CLICK here to see why Rip-off Report, as a matter of policy, deleted either a phone number, link or e-mail address from this Report. CLICK AND READ MORE..

ONE PERSONS EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE WITH TELEPHONE PSYCHICS on Keen.com and other services:
1) almost all have some psychic ability but most use it to make money as the primary motive

2) almost none posses moral or ethical excellence or psychological smarts to use this for your best interest.

3) they will and do sque readings to keep you feeling good about what they say so you will call back.

I have spoken with many other longtime callers to Keen.com who have verified this is thier experience also.

Some of these readers sound GREAT and do predict some thingscorrectly. They are often quite able to know things with a great deal of precision. They almost never have your best interest at heart .... they are into making money from you.

Beleive me when I tell you: there are a lot of callers who are spending a lot of money being mislead about issues that are important to them ..... if you are new to keen..... BE CAREFUL .....

ASKING "WHERE DID I LOSE MY CAR KEYS" OR "WHAT DID THE CAT SAY" IS FINE. IF IT IS YOUR EMOTIONAL LIFE INVOLVING INTENSE FEELINGS WHERE YOU COULD GET HURT: GO TO SOMEONE WHO MUST BE RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT THEY TELL YOU. KEEN READERS DO NOT; YOU PAY BIG BUCKS WITHOUT ACCOUNTABILITY AND MY RESEARCH REVEALS THIS STORY BELOW IS MORE COMMON THAN NOT.

THIS IS NOT MEANT TO SINGLE THIS PERSON OUT, SHE'S THE ONE I SPOKE WITH MOST SO I WILL DESCRIBE MY EXPERIENCE WITH HER

EMPRESS DAWN. HAS A KNACK FOR SPEAKING WITH A GREAT DEAL OF CONVICTION AND SHE IS PSYCHIC, NO DOUBT ABOUT IT, CONVINCINGLY TOO. I WAS WOWED LIKE CRAZY FOR NUMEROUS MONTHS AND THOUSANDS OF $......

DO NOT ASSUME THE ADVICE YOU ARE GETTING FROM HER OR OTHERS IS GOOD BASED ON THAT BECAUSE MY EXTENSIVE (AND EXPENSIVE) RESEARCH SHOWS IT IS VERY UNLIKELY YOU ARE GETTING GOOD ADVICE.

I WAS WOWED AND UNKNOWINGLY MISLEAD BY HER FOR ALMOST A YEAR AND THUS WALKED INTO A MESS BECAUSE I TRUSTED HER AND OTHERS READINGS. IT SEEMED TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE (it was) , I KEPT CALLING BACK, "ARE YOU SURE YOU SEE IT THAT WAY ....? OVER AND OVER, "YES, THIS IS SO WONDERFUL ......"

I CAME FROM KNOWING PSYCHICS ARE REAL FROM MANY MANY YEARS OF EXPEREINCE PRIOR TO CALLING PEOPLE ON KEEN. I WAS NAIVELY THINKING THEY ALL HAD THE ABILITY TO TRULY SEE THE WHOLE PICTURE PLUS THE WISDOM, ALTRUISM, SPECIAL KNOWLEDGE TO TRULY HELP.

MOST OF THEM DO NOT, IT IS THAT SIMPLE, IN FACT IT IS VERY RARE ON KEEN IF THEY POSSES THOSE TRAITS .....

I ENJOYED ALMOST A YEAR OF ASSURANCES BY E.D. AND OTHERS REGARDING A FEMALE: THE OLD "RETURNING SOULMATE" STORY.

I ENJOYED ALMOST A YEAR OF ASSURANCES BY E.D. AND OTHERS REGARDING A FEMALE: THE OLD "RETURNING SOULMATE" STORY. SHE SEEMED SO WELL MEANING IF, IN RETROSPECT, IMPRUDENT FOR ENCOURAGING INVOLVEMENT WITH SUCH A DEEPLY DAMAGED PERSON....

E.D. (AND OTHERS) NUMEROUS TIMES OVER MANY MONTHS SAID "HANG IN THERE" "SHE IS GOING TO MAKE YOU SO HAPPY" "SHE'LL BECOME YOUR BE ALL AND END ALL" "IT IS GOING TO BE (NOT EASY BUT...) SO WONDERFUL" "HER PROBLEM IS SHE'S NEVER HAD GOOD SEX, YOU'RE THE MAN FOR THE JOB AND SHE KNOWS IT" "IT IS PROFOUND AND UNIQUE" ONLY TO FIND OUT A YEAR LATER THAT THE FEMALE IN QUESTION IS STILL A COMMITTED PROSTITUTE AND DRUG AND WIERD SEX ADDICT WHO IS DEEPLY DISTURBED AND WILL LIKELY NEVER BE A REASONABLY NORMAL PERSON.

I REALLY REALLY TRUSTED E.D., SHE SOUNDS TRUSTWORTHY. THE CLINCHER SEEMS TO BE THAT IN THE END SHE REFUSES TO ACKNOWLEDGE OR DISCUSS HER MISTAKE OR THE SIGNIFICANT EFFECT IT HAS HAD. HER ATTITUDE SEEMS TO BE THAT I AM HISTORY.... IN A CONTEXT THAT IS ALL ABOUT ALTRUISM, OR SHOULD BE ALL ABOUT ALTRUISM....THAT IS A POOR SHOWING.

Empress Dawn recently wrote the following to me: " so many readers called me and they laughed telling me how they painted a rosey picture for you . SHE WAS DESCRIBING OTHER KEEN PSYCHICS DISCUSSING DELIBERATELY MISLEADING CALLERS AND GETTING TOGETHER TO LAUGH ABOUT IT AFTER.

ED MAY HAVE USED HER ABILITIES TO DELIBERATELY CON ME SINCE SHE KNEW I WOULD CALL BACK MANY TIMES. I SUSPECT ITS SIMPLY THAT SHE LACKS THE MORAL AND ETHICAL STANDARDS. SHE IS INTO THE MONEY AND THAT'S IT.
BASED ON THE OVERALL PICTURE IT WOULD SEEM HER PSYCHOLOGICAL SMARTS SCORE IS ZERO.

THIS PICTURE DECISIVELY TAINTS TELEPHONE PSYCHICS. THE FACT THAT HER "READING" COULD BE SO EXTREMELY DESTRUCTIVE WAS, AT THE TIME, UNIMAGINABLE TO ME. YES I WAS VERY VERY NAIEVE. THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT EDUCATED PSYCHOLOGICALLY, DO NOT LOOK INTO THE EYES OF THE PEOPLE THEY "READ" FOR OR NEED TO BE THE TINIEST BIT ACCOUNTABLE OR TRULY CAPABLE OF VISION..... JUST ENOUGH TO CONVINCE US THAT PSYCHICS ARE REAL ..... CLEARLY: QUALITY, DEPTH OF VISION AND OR INTEGRITY ARE ALMOST NON EXISTENT ON KEEN...

OTHERS I'VE KNOWN FOR 25+ YEARS CALLED IT CORRECTLY FROM THE GET GO.... IN MY MIND THEY WERE OVERRULED BY "30 KEEN PSYCHICS ALL SAYING THE SAME THING..."

I HAVE FOUND OUT BY COMMUNICATING WITH OTHER KEEN CALLERS AND ALSO WITH A NUMBER OF READERS WHO POSSESS MORE SKILL, DEPTH AND OR SCRUPLES THAT KEEN READERS HAVE A REPUTATION FOR THIS.
BE VERY CAREFUL. IF YOU WANT TO CALL BACK NUMEROUS TIMES FOR THAT RUSH WHEN YOUR DREAMS ARE VIVIFIED WITH PREDICTIONS OF THEM MATERIALIZING.... IF YOU FIND YOURSELF RUNNING OUT OF MONEY IN KEEN, .... IF THE "PREDICTIONS" ARE POSTPONED, AGAIN.... AND AGAIN...... AND AGAIN ........THAT IS A VERY COMMON PICTURE ON KEEN.COM "THE KEEN SYNDROME"....

IF YOU ARE ASKING TELEPHONE PSYCHICS ABOUT SOMETHING INVOLVING INTENSE FEELINGS THEY ARE QUITE INCOMPETENT. "WHERE DID I LOSE MY CAR KEYS" OR "WHAT DID THE CAT SAY" ARE FINE QUESTIONS FOR THIS SETTING WHICH IS NO MORE EXCELLENT THAN A CIRCUS SIDE SHOW.

IF YOUR QUESTION IS THE LEASE IMPORTANT TO YOUR HEALTH OR YOUR EMOTIONAL LIFE, GO TO SOMEONE WHO YOU KNOW WELL, WHO WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT THEY TELL YOU AND NO TELEPHONE

PSYHIC MUST BE RESPONSIBLE. OR BE SURE YOU VERIFY ACCURACY BEFORE INVESTING YOURSELF IN ANY WAY....
I HAVE RECEIVED NUMEROUS THANK YOUS FOR THIS MESSAGE, NOT A SINGLE NEGATIVE RESPONSE, IT HAS THE RING OF TRUTH FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE....

After 10 months of 100% failed predications......I was temporarily out of money..... my emotional life a shambles insofar as I had listened to her and the others..... she blocked my account....
Nice integrity, altruism... etal.

NUMEROUS OTHER KEEN CALLERS HAVE RELATED SIMILAR STORIES TO ME ABOUT KEEN READERS
the message is that if you cannot verify what a "psychic" is telling you, and it is a matter of importance in your emotional life..... you are on thin ice.....
WITH THE BEST OF INTENTIONS...

NOTE: their regitered Domain status for Keen.com is under REGISTRAR-LOCK ..this means they cannot do anything with thier domain becuase, more than likely they have given wrong info about their ripoff operation.

Jay
San Francisco, California
U.S.A.

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#1 General Comment

Keen psychics

AUTHOR: Vick - (U.S.A.)

Jay, I'm sorry to hear you had so many problems with Keen psychics. There are some good ones on there. I know three of them personally.

I can't help but wonder, if this psychic had told you that the woman you were interested in was a prostitute and drug addict, if you would have heard her or been one of those clients who said, "Oh, no! You are completely wrong!" and hung up.

I've been doing readings professionally for over 20 years, mainly with clients who find me privately (meaning through referrals and my listing in the Yellow Pages and my website). I've done some readings on Keen as well as with some other phone lines. Most of the readings on Keen have been of the "Is he going to call me? What's he/she thinking?" variety. Many of the clients sound like junior high school kids. They don't want to hear that the guy (woman) is a (pick one) alcoholic, drug addict, mentally ill, can't hold a job, only wants sex, has no interest in a real relationship, is a user, etc. Not all, but many of them, just want someone to tell them what they want to hear. "Oh, yes, honey, he's your soul mate; you'll be together and live happily ever after."

Unfortunately, there are a great many psychic scams out there, and it is up to the consumer to educate themselves about those scams, how they operate and how to avoid them. This comment in your original post is the tip-off: "IT SEEMED TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE (it was)". ANYTHING that seems too good to be true should be avoided. That applies to psychic readings, plumbers, investment opportunities, jobs, etc.

Having said all that, I hope that you have found an honest, decent psychic who is helping you put the pieces back together. I wish the best for you!

Loving Rose
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#2 Consumer Comment

GIFTED11, Donna Carvalho

AUTHOR: vicky - (Australia)

I would also like to further comment on the readers on keen.com.  I find most of the readers on this site fake.With regards to GIFTED11, Donna carvalho...she seems to claim she is an excellent reader and stuff but i had a reading with her a few months ago and nothing she said has manifested...she told me she was not good with timingn but could give me a range of time...i waited for the whole duration to end and gave it even more time but nothing happened...

moreover, she is very picky and would not take in new clients..and when u have a reading with her, she literally DEMANDS that u leave feedback automatically...if u dont she will keep emailing u and harrassing you to do so..she claims its a way of saying thank you??? we aree paying for the service and should be able to give feedback whenever we want not by demanding..

Other readers who i have come across to be fake aree as below..
Jo Starks
JupiterInLove
HeavenCalls
Moontides
Dsandra
Jane Wilcox
Ness21
Leslie Hale
ASTRO Psion
Avalonmare
josephine eyes
Radiant Spirit
Neptune Seer
In fact the first few pages of highest rated on love and relationships are also fake..

Some of this readers have many good feedbacks, but be careful as most of this come from other advisers who are their friends. and there are so many here who work together to deliver same info with other advices..

So be careful of this site..it took me a longggggg time to find a good reader here..

Cheers

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#3 General Comment

As A Reader

AUTHOR: LetsGetReal - (United States of America)

As a reader i would like to contribute here. If someone claims to be 100% you better run, there is NOONE who is that good. We all have freewill and one little change with either party involved can change the big picture, i myself have done it but didn't realize it until later. If everything they predict is too good to be true it probably is. This is where you take the power back and stop contacting them. If they promise to fix things with spells or rituals again run. Don't play test the psychic, when you do you are setting yourself up for a fall. My guides refuse to give an accurate answer when tested like this and sometimes even have smart aleck answers. When reading feedback look for things like, what she/he predicted DID happen, not it will happen. Also know that timing is extremely hard to do and some have the gift for it and others donot. When fixing to read have an open and relaxed energy, this greatly influences your readings.Contrary to belief we donot connect to everyone, i can't count how may times i have politely disconnected because i couldn't see what was there. I don't keep them on the line or draw the readings out. This is highly unethical and at some point karma will kick in and you will pay so why do it. I prefer my private readings yes, but sometimes find it necessary to use another base to bring customers in. I kept seeing and have heard often about this FREE MINS thing, first off..you choose to call at whatever price, second..when you go to work do you work for free? of course you don't and if your employer suggested you work for 1/2 hour everyday for nothing, would you ? of course not. Not to say i don't give free minutes but i don not feel obligated to do so either. If you give 3 free mins to 10 of your customers you have given away 30 mins of your work time. As with any company unless you work for them you have no idea of the inner workings. I personally donot communicate with the other psychics. I have no need to, i generally donot remember much of my readings after i am finished. But in all fairness i do know this exists. Keen does not tests it psychics and allows ANYONE nowdays to just open an account. It is a cut throat business among the psychics which is one reason i stay to myself. I have better things to do with my time than gossip. In the beginning when keen was started, by a psychic, it was a great and ethical place to work, after it was sold it went downhill. The company representatives are only as good as the companies ethics and practices. Keen only cares about the bottom line. Did you know that they take half of what the psychic makes, the reader is also pretty much forced to bid on clicks to be seen on top of keens cut.This can be quite costly. If you reward the reader with a bonus because you like them did you know they only get a percentage of that? yes keen takes their cut even tho they did nothing to earn it. Did you know the readers deal daily with all kinds of system problems that impedes their business including unstable call base and late paychecks.As in all businesses there are problems. I am not advocating that all psychics are real, far from it, but please think before bashing all of us as some are real and we do have morals and principals. If we are lucky enough to get "private readings" we do those but with competition its hard. I sincerely hope that you find the right psychic for your needs :) 
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As A Reader

AUTHOR: LetsGetReal - (United States of America)

As a reader i would like to contribute here. If someone claims to be 100% you better run, there is NOONE who is that good. We all have freewill and one little change with either party involved can change the big picture, i myself have done it but didn't realize it until later. If everything they predict is too good to be true it probably is. This is where you take the power back and stop contacting them. If they promise to fix things with spells or rituals again run. Don't play test the psychic, when you do you are setting yourself up for a fall. My guides refuse to give an accurate answer when tested like this and sometimes even have smart aleck answers. When reading feedback look for things like, what she/he predicted DID happen, not it will happen. Also know that timing is extremely hard to do and some have the gift for it and others donot. When fixing to read have an open and relaxed energy, this greatly influences your readings.Contrary to belief we donot connect to everyone, i can't count how may times i have politely disconnected because i couldn't see what was there. I don't keep them on the line or draw the readings out. This is highly unethical and at some point karma will kick in and you will pay so why do it. I prefer my private readings yes, but sometimes find it necessary to use another base to bring customers in. I kept seeing and have heard often about this FREE MINS thing, first off..you choose to call at whatever price, second..when you go to work do you work for free? of course you don't and if your employer suggested you work for 1/2 hour everyday for nothing, would you ? of course not. Not to say i don't give free minutes but i don not feel obligated to do so either. If you give 3 free mins to 10 of your customers you have given away 30 mins of your work time. As with any company unless you work for them you have no idea of the inner workings. I personally donot communicate with the other psychics. I have no need to, i generally donot remember much of my readings after i am finished. But in all fairness i do know this exists. Keen does not tests it psychics and allows ANYONE nowdays to just open an account. It is a cut throat business among the psychics which is one reason i stay to myself. I have better things to do with my time than gossip. In the beginning when keen was started, by a psychic, it was a great and ethical place to work, after it was sold it went downhill. The company representatives are only as good as the companies ethics and practices. Keen only cares about the bottom line. Did you know that they take half of what the psychic makes, the reader is also pretty much forced to bid on clicks to be seen on top of keens cut.This can be quite costly. If you reward the reader with a bonus because you like them did you know they only get a percentage of that? yes keen takes their cut even tho they did nothing to earn it. Did you know the readers deal daily with all kinds of system problems that impedes their business including unstable call base and late paychecks.As in all businesses there are problems. I am not advocating that all psychics are real, far from it, but please think before bashing all of us as some are real and we do have morals and principals. If we are lucky enough to get "private readings" we do those but with competition its hard. I sincerely hope that you find the right psychic for your needs :) 
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I am Jagger

AUTHOR: Jagger01 - (United States of America)

I am a certified Psychic, "real".Please talk about someone you know. I am very well educated, I have been a Psychic for 25 years I DO NOT RIP PEOPLE OFF.Please know what you are talking about before you post it,Jagger
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#6 Consumer Comment

Kathy

AUTHOR: Robin - (Canada)

Kathy: Do you have an e-mail address where we can get a reading from you if we're interested??

I have read with Queen of Cups 18 and actually gotten to know her. She is as honest as they come, folks. She won't tell you simply what you want to hear. A reading can never be 100% accurate - there are way too many variables but I tell you this from the heart - you won't waste your money with her. I also feel Lisa Dianne is very good too. You may also want to try someone by the name of Anna Ellington. She used to work for Keen by the name of Pharrah13 but does her own readings now. She has such integrity and is a very gifted psychic.

Blessings to all!

"Robin"
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#7 Consumer Comment

So sad

AUTHOR: Cinderella28 - (U.S.A.)

Hi,

I too have had my experiences with all the above. I have read very little on keen. I am psychic. I have had abilities since a child. I have tried keen, to work from home to be with the kids.

There are so many frauds on there. That I do agree. I have my own lessons and struggles in life and can't read myself. Part of the reason some of these people charge alot is keen gets a percentage.

There are groups that stick together, they are greedy, they are wrong and they do prey on people who are lost.

I wouldn't say people are addicted vs. lost in their life, and are truly looking for some guidance, because lets face it, human kind can and does do the unspeakable to people.

I have had my own business over 10 years, i get burned out from reading people.
We all do have free will. Some people can't handle the truth, i have always told people i won't lie, and given their money back.
I have turned down males asking if their wives are cheatings, because i could sense right away, the information they would receive the possibility of them hurting their spouse was great.

I back up what info i get by asking god/angels guides something simple, but unique that the client only knows.

Trust me it is a gift as well as a curse, u pick up on stuff you don't want. I don't predict death, but will def issue a warning if i see.

NO psychic/medium is 100 percent, total bs, only god or whomever you believe in is.

we do change our course, other people slow things down and shift.

Readings are for guidance, hope spirituality, and to empower yourself and to change some of your life if possible.

I was going to interview with callfornia psychics, they do interview i have one set up, but the more i read the more depressed i get, that all these people are giving bad names and reps to the real deal.

I am always honored when someone comes to me. I want to do a good job and be honest.

So people, their are good gifted readers, listen to your gut, time frames are difficult, some of my stuff never came to pass.

I don't kn ow how these people charge all this money.

But remember all the greed does come back to bite people in the asprin!!!!.

I have always believed and taught my kids, do all that you do with your best from your heart and w/out malice, if you mess up then you know you tried but didn't do it to hurt someone.

Well I do hope this helps.

We all need guidance/hope spirituality, sometimes a counselor/friend/family doesnt get it or know us.

Sometimes a complete stranger is easiest, but be careful who you pay.
Good readers don't have to be outrageous.

I don't even charge what these people do.

most readings in person/phone email usually from 35-150.00
but you get a good hour and you get something concrete and real.

Remember, you get want you need not always what you want.

I always tell my clients, have ure questions ready too.

But mostly there are other important areas that need attention, once those are are on the road to the better, the relationship stuff comes in.

My most profound moment with a reader was when she asked me if her husband knew she was cheating, i said yes and please be careful.

I had read her for 8 years.

I said you are going to get caught, i am so sorry.
She got so pissed and walked out.

The outcome i saw was bad, and she didn't like it. So she blamed me.

I cried, but i told the truth.
THe rest is history, he found out, and he was not a nice man. The other man was usingher.

Thanks all for reading this.
Kathy
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#8 Consumer Suggestion

REPORT #258604

AUTHOR: Springlady - (U.S.A.)

nomoreloserclients left comment in vvvv profile :

WHO THE F**K DO YOU THINK YOU ARE TO BLOCK ME YOU NASTY C**T. EVERY POINT I MADE WAS VALID, BUT YOU WOULD RATHER PROPOGATE HATE OF THOSE WHO TRY TO HELP YOU THAN HEAR THE TRUTH. GUESS THATS WHY YOU HATE KEEN PSYCHICS ENOUGH TO DO THIS TO US. DONT WORRY YOU WILL PAY AND PAY DEARLY. ALL MY KEEN FRIENDS KNOW YOU AND WHO YOUR OTHER CRONIES ARE, AND BELIEVE ME YOU WILL BE BLOCKED FROM ANY DECENT PSYCHICS AFTER MY REPORT TO THEM TODAY. YOU WILL BE LEFT WITH ONLY THE FAKE GYPSY GARBAGE, WHICH IS WHAT YOU DESERVE, AS DO ALL OTHERS WHO FOLLOW YOU. I CAN COME BACK ANY TIME I WANT AND I WILL CONTINUE TO SPREAD TRUTH HERE, BANNING ME WILL DO NOTHING.
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And she answered:
hi, i can understand your anger. i didn't block you, i decided to delete the community over legal concerns...no one can access anymore

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I don't know why she shut down the forum. I see no legal problem there.
Probably she was afraid...
Too many losers and unreal "readers" could lose money from customers.
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#9 Consumer Comment

Psychic Scams

AUTHOR: Sandraw - (U.S.A.)

I belonged to a group which conducted many interviews over the past 2 years regarding psychics in general. They are popping up everywhere now because let's face it, we all need money. Keen is dangerous because anyone can proclaim themself a psychic. What I have learned is that very few actually have skills. The above mentioned I have talked to and none to anything except beg for more calls. Deborah Mills sends clients emails each and every day, talking of spirit and she knows, etc. She just wants the calls people, I've also conducted interviews with former psychics who have been very honest some told me their welfare checks did not cut it, it was easy to take advantage of people, they also told me that many on Keen are in the same position, they possess little or no education, can only do menial type work and will do whatever it takes to supplement their income. Those psychics who give false hope time and time again are more than likely on some kind of state aid, can't work, don't want to work and ahve learned at a very young age to scam. The best bet is to visit a psychic in person who has been recommended, not any of the above mentioned, please. One is extremely convincing but it is part of her scam, we could all be phone psychics tomorrow, hearing that they are not capable of working and contributing to society rang true, many of them only do readings for a living and they are the ones complaining about government while they are sucking the life out of it on welfare. But keep this in mind, if a psychic talks about a relationship over and over and tells you a fairytale over and over, that is not a psychic. That is a person desperate for your money.

The way they treat each other is disgusting as well. I'll bet if any of you calling every saw these people in person you would run. Please take the advice and do not call them unless it is for entertainment.

The worst ones who will tell you whatever you want to hear and keep you calling back are:
Deborah Mills
Jagger
Veruska
Angelic Power
Medium Laura Moore
Eli Casey
Roxanne Davis

These were the worse, in one instance a woman was told her ex was coming back and he had passed away a year before, if the woman telling her was psychic, wouldn't she have known that?

These people will take and take, they are the takers of the world, they believe something or someone owes them and they do whatever it takes to get what they believe is their due.

Some of you calling may possess good educations and jobs, things these psychics can only dream of and feel justified that you can afford to pay them to listen to nonsense. I was told by a real psychic that one of the above mentioned actually does believe now that she is a psychic, she does not contribute to society except to sit on phones all day. Why then not do telemarketing? IF she cannot go out and work, she can certainly do a telemarketing job.

Because she doesn't collect money per minute, that is why. Please bear this stuff in mind, some of these people are immoral, unethical and have no regard for human life other than their own and their scams will have you believe they care, they are spiritual, they love you, etc. Especially if you get constant emails from them, telling you when they are on, or little supportive messages about sprits bringing you your dreams, forget it, don't listen. It is time you took back your own lives and let these people be responsible for theirs and go out and work for a living like everyone else.
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#10 Consumer Comment

Joe you are so right

AUTHOR: 7731585 Person - (U.S.A.)

I agree with you 100%, even though I am one who has been trying to help people not call these scammers on Keen yet bemoaning my life having been wrecked by it all, my mind wrecked,etc.
My mind is fragile; I didnt have a life or anyone to speak to. Every time I reached out to pastors, priests,psychologists, so-called friends--- nada.
Loss of status maybe.....and the mnetal health people say they do not know how to help with this Keen mania.
There were two tragic family deaths, a tragic divorce, betrayals, severe rejections ( in my small town), a mess of a crisis,and I lost my mind with grief

YES YOU ARE 100% RIGHT JOE.
YOU ARE RIGHT.

I agree with you.
Keep on posting. Maybe it will help some of these people jump off the Merry-Go-Round from Hell.
Bless you , Joe.
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#11 Consumer Comment

AVOID THESE RIP-OFF PSYCHIC HOTLINES! ONLY IDIOTS AND LOSERS MAKE THEM A LIFESTYLE!

AUTHOR: Joe - (U.S.A.)

I sure am tired about reading these FAKE psychic hotline postings and about the people who post on the Rip Off Report about how they were ripped off.

people see the complaints and yet more and more postings continue to appear from both those who cry wah wah wah I was ripped off and those who allegedly have written them off and sometimes it sounds like a hillbilly trailer trash feud and at other times like a Jerry Springer feaud.

THERE IS NOTHING AT ALL PSYCHIC OR MYSTICAL ABOUT THESE PSYCHIC TELEPHONE HOTLINES!

The calls are routed to the individuals who claim to be psychics. They have scripts to read according to the age and gender of the person calling and they try to keep the conversation going by asking questions and saying things that the person wants to hear because the longer they keep that person on the line, the more money they will get because they get a percentage of the action. YOU ARE BEING CHARGED BY THE MINUTE, FOOLS WHO CALL!

It gets very expensive and very addictive for people who apparently don't have anyone else to talk to. Because if they had any type of life, they would be out living and not holed up in a trailer or a shack or some place and bawling and complaining and pouring their heart out to some stranger on the other end of the phone whose sole objective is to keep them talking...

GET A LIFE!

This is PATHETIC!
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#12 Consumer Comment

Keen Fakes

AUTHOR: Pegw - (U.S.A.)

Here is a list of fakes who my friends and I called for over a year, none possess the abilities they claim to have, several will keep you calling over and over with failed predictions and every excuse in the book as to why.

Eli Casey
Deborah Mills (gives prediction and never changes it even if the situation changes, do not believe she can read the emotions of other people you are calling about and just continues predictions)
Veruska (changes predictions from call to call)
Helga Morrow (none of her predictions come true, she tells exactly same stories as last psychics called - too exact)
Medium Laura Moore (nice lady, but says yes to everything you call about)
Jagger 01 (probably the most desperate for callers, she started screaming he loves you he loves you - he did, but not know, then she immediately sent a free minute with an email saying he loves you), uif she was not that desperate, may have called back
Celest (predictions never happen)
Kelly's Tarot - nice woman, but predictions never happen, she guesses
Angel Hannah - also a guesser

there are many others, but some of the better ones are
Amanda's Eternal Flame
Ceci Second Sight
Lady Jenna
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#13 Consumer Comment

Queen of Cups wrong

AUTHOR: Caligirl - (U.S.A.)

I read with the Queen of Cups and she was right on some things like my ex moving, his selfishness, but she told me i'd be advancing in my current job and wouldn't be moving when I was already leaving my current job and moving cities only days later. She said my ex was career focused which his is totally not.

She also gave me a few scenarios about my ex - we'd only be friends (would never happen), then we'd get back together for a year, then it was only going to last 2-3 months then it'd be a one-night stand and he'd take off running but we'd remain social friends (how is that supposed to be) - all in the same reading. Then she told there'd be talk of having a baby, the suggestion would come from him. When I got annoyed and frustrated she cut me off and said call her back in a few days. When I called back at her suggestion to get some clarity, she wouldn't take my call.

I've read some great reviews of her skills as a psychic, but I've also seen a number of reports here of people who said she was wrong or right 15% of the time. I'd high hopes for her especially when she initially saw one or two things in the present accurately.

Its' really unfortunate she wouldn't do a follow up reading to clarify her contradictory predictions. I do think she has some talent, but it makes me wonder what she's afraid of.
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#14 Consumer Comment

Queen of Cups wrong

AUTHOR: Caligirl - (U.S.A.)

I read with the Queen of Cups and she was right on some things like my ex moving, his selfishness, but she told me i'd be advancing in my current job and wouldn't be moving when I was already leaving my current job and moving cities only days later. She said my ex was career focused which his is totally not.

She also gave me a few scenarios about my ex - we'd only be friends (would never happen), then we'd get back together for a year, then it was only going to last 2-3 months then it'd be a one-night stand and he'd take off running but we'd remain social friends (how is that supposed to be) - all in the same reading. Then she told there'd be talk of having a baby, the suggestion would come from him. When I got annoyed and frustrated she cut me off and said call her back in a few days. When I called back at her suggestion to get some clarity, she wouldn't take my call.

I've read some great reviews of her skills as a psychic, but I've also seen a number of reports here of people who said she was wrong or right 15% of the time. I'd high hopes for her especially when she initially saw one or two things in the present accurately.

Its' really unfortunate she wouldn't do a follow up reading to clarify her contradictory predictions. I do think she has some talent, but it makes me wonder what she's afraid of.
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#15 Consumer Comment

Queen of Cups wrong

AUTHOR: Caligirl - (U.S.A.)

I read with the Queen of Cups and she was right on some things like my ex moving, his selfishness, but she told me i'd be advancing in my current job and wouldn't be moving when I was already leaving my current job and moving cities only days later. She said my ex was career focused which his is totally not.

She also gave me a few scenarios about my ex - we'd only be friends (would never happen), then we'd get back together for a year, then it was only going to last 2-3 months then it'd be a one-night stand and he'd take off running but we'd remain social friends (how is that supposed to be) - all in the same reading. Then she told there'd be talk of having a baby, the suggestion would come from him. When I got annoyed and frustrated she cut me off and said call her back in a few days. When I called back at her suggestion to get some clarity, she wouldn't take my call.

I've read some great reviews of her skills as a psychic, but I've also seen a number of reports here of people who said she was wrong or right 15% of the time. I'd high hopes for her especially when she initially saw one or two things in the present accurately.

Its' really unfortunate she wouldn't do a follow up reading to clarify her contradictory predictions. I do think she has some talent, but it makes me wonder what she's afraid of.
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#16 Consumer Comment

Queen of Cups wrong

AUTHOR: Caligirl - (U.S.A.)

I read with the Queen of Cups and she was right on some things like my ex moving, his selfishness, but she told me i'd be advancing in my current job and wouldn't be moving when I was already leaving my current job and moving cities only days later. She said my ex was career focused which his is totally not.

She also gave me a few scenarios about my ex - we'd only be friends (would never happen), then we'd get back together for a year, then it was only going to last 2-3 months then it'd be a one-night stand and he'd take off running but we'd remain social friends (how is that supposed to be) - all in the same reading. Then she told there'd be talk of having a baby, the suggestion would come from him. When I got annoyed and frustrated she cut me off and said call her back in a few days. When I called back at her suggestion to get some clarity, she wouldn't take my call.

I've read some great reviews of her skills as a psychic, but I've also seen a number of reports here of people who said she was wrong or right 15% of the time. I'd high hopes for her especially when she initially saw one or two things in the present accurately.

Its' really unfortunate she wouldn't do a follow up reading to clarify her contradictory predictions. I do think she has some talent, but it makes me wonder what she's afraid of.
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#17 Consumer Comment

REGARDING QUEEN OF CUPS18!

AUTHOR: Jcb88 - (U.S.A.)

have any of her predictions to anybody ever been wrong?
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#18 Consumer Comment

Queen of cups 18 and other coments...

AUTHOR: Alex - (U.S.A.)

Queen of cups 18 has made MANY predictions for me that have come to pass. Plus she has also picked up on personal details about my life, detailed not generic, that I have never shared with any adviser on any site, that for me rules out information sharing. I have had a similer experinces with her about her telling me to be mindfull of my spending. I don't think it is fair to call her a fraud. I agree that the seeming majority of Keen advisers are unethical, and you will probably loose your shirt before finding a decent adviser on that site, but there may be a small handfull of talanted advisers.

If her predictions did not come to pass you should say so. How many predictions did she make for you, what % did not come to pass. Was there anything that you did to undermine the predictions? I don't think that is unfair to say if she made predictions for you that did not come to pass. If you did have a negative experince with her, explain it. I seems to me that the professional standard for a psychic is to read with an accuracey of 80% or more. 100% in this proffesion seems unrealistic even for the best of the professionals. Under 80% should be considered unacceptable. I feel that if an adviser cannot predict with 80% or better they should not be a professional, and should find a different profession until they are able to maintain 80% or better. So 8 out of 10 of your questions should be answered correctly.

Also, there is no adviser I have ever met who said timing wasn't tricky. What ever an adviser gives you as a time frame, I find doubling it to be a good rule. If they say 2 days give them four days, if they say three months give them six. Now, if they say 2 days and it was been 2 months, yes I agree that there is a problem and the prediction should be counted against the adviser. What this profession needs is regulation from both sides. To protect clients from fradulent, unethical and unprofesional advisers. And, to protect ethical advisers from irresponsible clients.

Also I would like to say the top adviser on Kenn charges right near $5.00 a min. I am not saying that he is a good or bad adviser, but I feel that is an acceptable standard to judge the price of psychic advice. Anything higher I feel is unprofesional, unless the advicer is a celebratie like Sylvia Brown, who I think charges around $700 - 800 for an hour. It has been well documented that Sylvia Brown is not 100% accurate. Pennyc charges around the same as Sylvia Brown, and Pennyc is not a celebratie. In fact, Pennyc has an accuercy rating of 0% with me, and I have asked her a lot of different questions. In this profession you don't always get what you pay for so be very careful. And please be carefull to state clearly why an adviser's name appears in your comments.

I belive the best that we can do is to state if an adviser's predictions came true or not, are they over or under the 80% accueracy mark, and around how much do they charge for a reading. That I feel is the standard litmis test. It is also good to note if the adviser has tried to sell Karma woe cures, spells, ect... I talked to Ru the sorcierer on Kasamba, he gave me a free spell that did not come to pass, and when I mentioned this, he tried to sell me another one for a lot of $$$. Buyer beware!

Also, please be careful on how much information you give to advisers. Information between advisers does happen, and the same adviser may post many different profiles using fake photos. This is very common on Kasamba, you may think you have been speaking to for different people but in reality it was one person the whole time. Edith O'leary has been accused by many of in reality being a person posing as several adviser's at once. I belive she is a fraud myself, and I don't think Ru is really who you think he is either. Getting a typed trancript of a session may seem nice, and the free time to connect, but it opens the flood gates for frauds, so be mindful of that. If you can't speak to the adviser face to face, at least speak with them over the phone where you can hear their voice. If it is just typing, you have no idea who it really is on the otherside of the computer. If the adviser makes up an excuse as to why they can't use the phone, no matter how reasonable, move on to another adviser.

Also, advisers on both Keen and Kasamba have a data base thy can use to type info on their clients. I hear this all the time in feedback: I haven't talked to so and so adviser in ten months, and they remembered me, and we picked up right where we left off! No, they probably did not remember you, but their computer did. I think it is important for the client to know that this is being done, but I don't think it is unethical for an adviser to make notes on a client. I do feel it is unethical for an adviser to share client information. Yes, there are advisers who team up, and share info. I don't think Keen asks the advisers to share, but I don't think it trys to stop it either.

Kasamba is such a shady site, who really knows what is going on. Keen is at least set up in CA and therefore must be accountable to state and federal law. Kasamba is in Isreal and it is therefore much more difficult to make Kasamba accountable for their actions. The entire profession needs a dramitic overhaul on how it conducts buissness, for the sake of client and adviser alike. It is crazy how much money the middleman Keen and Kasamba are putting into their pockets, while doing nothing to help ethicaly regulate the sites they govern. Write to your state and federal congressmen and demand better regulation over the ethics of workers in the field of profesional advice, especialy in the area of psychic advice, and the companies that proffit from them.
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#19 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Justification

AUTHOR: Stephanie - (U.S.A.)

I'm glad this person's response was reported because this is justification for what was done to me and several other advisors who were actually honest and ethical and were kicked out and cannot help people. The list of people mentioned I am familiar with and it's very sad that they are still scamming folks like this.

What the public doesn't know is that the person/people mentioned are just as jealous and backbitting against another advisor whom is not doing anything but being real with people.I was in the middle of helping a cancer patient when I was working there and others and doing well. But because I had a business of my own they kicked me out and many others have their own sites as well.

So what's been left is the trash. At the time the customer service dept had a nasty gentleman there who couldn't give a crap about the abusive behavior of clients and advisors.

What people don't know is that that whole Keen site is so damned negative they are full of sh*. They also don't report to the IRS legally. So yes it's all drama and a mega mess.
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#20 Consumer Comment

When Will Jay Stop this Tirade

AUTHOR: Sandra - (U.S.A.)

You skimmed over a post regarding a psychic who predicted a very bad fire, and I am going to add to the credit of this reader QUEEN OF CUPS18. She is one of the people on Keen who blocks a caller if they are caller her too much and will tell them to stop calling so much and watch their spending. I know because I am one of those people she told. The first time I called her she asked me if there was a problem with my eye because her eyes were blurry. Three days prior I had an eye infection that caused me to seek medical attention. I called to find out about my boyfriend and a problem we were having. She immediately asked me if the name Karen meant anything to me. Karen happens to be my boyfriend's twin sister who passed away and he has never been able to get over it.

I can understand that many people have had bad experiences with pyschic; and that someone who feels he is doing a public service feels the need to create forums for people to vent. At some point however, you have to examine yourself as a consumer. There is a wonderful thing called FREE-WILL. The responsibilitiy that comes with WILL is the burden to choose and make our own decisions.

Jay, you are a very angry person. You circulated a post four years ago on Keen's website and even went as far as to provide them with your personal AOL email address. This caused Keen to disable contact between callers. Regardless of how you feel personally, Keen is a business. They are not responsible for the behavior of the unscrupulous practices of a speakers. You have been posting this same post on virtually every website who provides this forum for venting.

What is your true mission when you are promoting other pyschic websites? This is so old. You are limiting your own growth by trying to hurt others, be very careful.
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#21 Consumer Suggestion

Another Unethical Psychic - psychicangel1

AUTHOR: Skye - (U.S.A.)

psychicangel1 on keen offered me, on 2 occassions, free minutes. I never use the free psychicange l1 minutes but a friend of mine had so I emailed psychicangel1 and asked her how I might redeem those minutes and requested a reading. The next day, of course I never received an answer, and this psychic had the nerve to block me. I never said or have don't anything to anyone on the site. I sent two emails to keen with not response.

Beware of the free minutes. Also when you refer a friend you don't get the $ 50 or free minutes as promised!
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#22 Consumer Suggestion

Another Unethical Psychic - psychicangel1

AUTHOR: Skye - (U.S.A.)

psychicangel1 on keen offered me, on 2 occassions, free minutes. I never use the free psychicange l1 minutes but a friend of mine had so I emailed psychicangel1 and asked her how I might redeem those minutes and requested a reading. The next day, of course I never received an answer, and this psychic had the nerve to block me. I never said or have don't anything to anyone on the site. I sent two emails to keen with not response.

Beware of the free minutes. Also when you refer a friend you don't get the $ 50 or free minutes as promised!
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#23 Consumer Comment

Another liar bleueyes51

AUTHOR: Sammy - (U.S.A.)

I started calling him about a guy and him being gay himself made me feel right at home. He is so smooth he is sympathetic and builds u up. He gets u hooked by giving u attention u want. He will give u his personal 411 and makes u feel that he has never met anyone like u that he has felt so connected with b4. Lots of attention from him u feel in love then he starts being unavailable with the personal 411 so u call him online to get that magic attention again. I maxed out my CC calling for that magic. I C that he is doing it again with others. He only wants ur money!
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#24 Consumer Comment

MOST ONLINE PSYCHICS ARE FULL OF IT

AUTHOR: Jay - (U.S.A.)

MOST ARE MOTIVATED BY MONEY 98%, TRUTH 2%

THERE IS NO RECOURSE, THEY DO NOT HAVE TO BE ACCOUNTABLE

FEW HAVE SIGNIFIANT EDUCATION OR MORAL EXCELLENCE

ALMOST ALL WILL TELL YOU THINGS TO KEEP YOU CALLING BACK

ALMOST ALL WILL OVERSTEP WHAT INFORMATION THEY MAY GET TO MANIPULATE OR NEGLECT ANY SENSE OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT AS A COUNSELLOR OR HELPER

MOST, IN MY EXPERIENCE, USE THE ABILITY TO MISLEAD FOR $ GAIN
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#25 Consumer Comment

A Friendly,Not Hateful, Inquiry To Wanda The Psychic

AUTHOR: Russ - (U.S.A.)

What is predictable in the world of psychics,is when they are put on the spot to prove themselves conclusively,scientifically,they have a multitude of reasons to decline.In my case,I was too hateful,possibly bullheaded,narrow minded,and a low IQ dummy to boot.Not worth your time.

Wanda,you great predictor you.You predicted I would still be skeptical even if you provided the correct answers to my questions.Your prediction was wrong. I would have loved for you to prove yourself as a real honest to goodness psychic. I would love,repeat,love for you to convince me.

I think it would be the neatest thing in the world to have the real deal. A 100% bonifide honest to goodness psychic that really exists.

I will cheerfuly swallow my pride,admit I was totally wrong,and extol the virtues of Wanda the Psychic.

I will gladly pay you 10 times your going rate for a reading and more.You could'nt put a dollar amount on it.

It should be the story of the century that finally,here is a totaly legitimate accurate psychic for the world to see,hear,and learn words of wisdom for the ages.Millions could be saved by many of your timely accurate predictions.

That 40 bucks a pop you charge people is chump change compared to what you should be raking in.

I could be your business manager.Just one good day at a casino and you are set for life.Then out of the goodness of your heart,you would'nt have to charge clients anything. It would be a win win situation for all.And don't forget to tack on that million dollar reward from James Randi after you prove your self to him besides.

Wanda,I'm curious as to why psychics never win lotteries or clean up at the casino's. Instead they are scrapping for a buck like you and every other working stiff out there.

What's amusing to me is that Valley of The Sun outfit. You may have heard of them.They are headed by Dick and Tara Sutphen .Among thier numerous books ,tapes,and CD's they are hawking is one called "How to Predict Lottery Numbers",or words to that effect.

Funny how I never see thier names listed among the lottery winners.

I did'nt really mean to threaten your source of income by being such a meanie and a skeptic.I am not hateful to you.I only have hatred in my heart for the select few who actually deserve it,namely most car dealerships,if not all..But that's another story.

So Wanda,how about it. Make me your number one champion.Make me the biggest Wanda believer in the world so we can put that bully James Randi in his place once and for all.

Who's going to win the Super Bowl.And how about the point spread while you're at it?
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#26 Consumer Comment

oh yeah...

AUTHOR: Wanda - (U.S.A.)

Have you noticed that your post is supported by ads for psychics and psychic web sites? LOL The lady that told you one of the psychics YOU NAMED was real was dismissed. She predicted the fire dude... you need more proof? Nah... Don't have time for that.
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#27 Consumer Comment

My clients are free to leave comments following a reading for up to thirty days.

AUTHOR: Wanda - (U.S.A.)

Well... I'm sorry about your experiences with readers being so bad. But whatever happened to you, you are obviously convinced that all who claim to be psychic are fake. This is your CHOICE and it is not my goal or my job to change your mind.

I would be willing to engage you in a friendly debate, but I detected nothing friendly in your rebuttal. I suspect that even "proof" would be met with skepticism so I will politely decline to take your test.

My clients are free to leave comments following a reading for up to thirty days. My ratings reflect accuracy in general and specifically with regards to predictions coming true. This is not just one client, this is several over a long period of time. I doubt this is a coincidence.
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#28 Consumer Suggestion

What We Have Here Is An "HONEST" Psychic. However,I am a skeptic.

AUTHOR: Russ - (U.S.A.)

Wanda. You claim to be psychic. Good for you.
You also claim not to rip people off.Thats wonderful.

You claim to have spent years,"honing your craft".You must be one of the better,"psychics",out there.

However,I am a skeptic. Ever read any books by James Randi?. I believe he has a million dollar reward out there for any "psychic" who can truly prove they are so. No one has ever collected.

I'm open minded.I'll let you put your so called abilities to the test here.Just a few simple questions please.

I've just written a number down between 1 and 20. What is it?

Who is going to win the Super Bowl?

What color is the shirt I am wearing?

What kind of vehicle do I drive?

If you went to a casino right now,could you clean the house out at blackjack,the slots,any thing.
Why haven't any pshics,any kind ever, done so.
It seems to me all the casino's would have been long out of business by now.

Pick just 3 numbers on the next powerball drawing in advance.

Psychic my butt.

Just where do your psychic powers come from? And go about proving it with scientific conclusive proof.Didn't think you could.

Tell me what's on my mind right now. No,forget it. I'll tell you any way.I'm thinking that there is one more phony who claims to be "Psychic"
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#29 UPDATE Employee

Not Always

AUTHOR: Wanda - (U.S.A.)

I have an account on Keen as well but I don't log in. I had one read on that site and recieved a two star rating. In my defense... I didn't tell the girl what she wanted to hear. He wasn't coming back. The site I am regularly working on is Kasamba. But if you dig into any psychic site you are going to find fakes, scam artists, and abusers. But not all of them are like that.

There are ethical readers out there who are equipped to counsel clients in regards to the readings they are recieving. As a member of the psychic community I am sickened by rip off artists who are in it for the money only and care nothing for clients and end up ripping them off. And I am not alone. I network with several other readers with whom I exchange readings on a regular basis. We are all in agreement that it makes our job a bit harder when we have to counsel a client who has been told what they want to hear so often that when we see "he isn't coming back" they are hesitant to believe me and sometimes even become hostile.

I also don't encourage dependence. Some clients will go to readers repeatedly wanting to ask the same question. I don't do well with this kind of client as it smacks of a deepr issue than the one at hand. And at that point THAT is the issue I am trying to address and usually will discontinue the relationship with the client if I feel that I cannot morally read for them anymore. I have done that more than once.

Honestly, I do well enough that I do not have to rip off my clients or scam them into spending more money. Most clients spend an average of about $35 to $40 per session with me though there are many who spend less and a few who spend more. I am NOT getting rich from doing readings. I make a better living at this than I would at say McDonalds, however I have trained for years honing my craft. I don't claim to be 100% accurate in my readings but I do claim to be sharp as a tack in advising my clients in matters of the heart. Even when my readings show that he is coming back.... I don't always advise that this is the best outcome. Sometimes it's best to let sleeping dogs lie. And I'm willing to risk losing clients to say that because they do come back when they find that I was the one who didn't lie to them telling them what they wanted to hear. I think in the end everyone wants the truth. But when ten people tell you something that sounds too good to be true followed by one nay sayer.... it tends to make me the party pooper.

So yes, there are readers like myself who don't want to sell you a candle or a spell and who aren't trying to create a situation of psychic dependence. I want to empower my clients and I genuinely care for them. Those that I cannot deal with.... I don't take on as clients.
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#30 REBUTTAL Individual responds

Keen! Humm where do I begain!!!!!!!

AUTHOR: Melanie - (U.S.A.)

Along time ago in a galaxy far far away! someone on keen once told my future per say! ok made a rime!

Keen , I have spend wasted times and $$$ on keen over the past 3 years! why, I guess I was looking for the right answers or just want to hear what I wanted to hear! hummmmm anybody can do that for free!

Today was the last draw, when I psychic tells you they do not have time to send you minutes to go with your funds! that basically means there done with you!

because this guy had an attidue problem big time! told me I had a mental issue! I said you know , you could be right in an email response back. only said that because I was crazy for calling him the the first place!

he was not to business to send me an email to argue the issue of my finaces or tell me he could not send minutes to me , but , he did and I said well I feel for people like you that ahve to make a living giving false hopes to people like me or just people in general! name "Intent to Charm" also advortises his radio show through keen and on his keen site.... I sent him a link of rip off.com and he re moved his webite page from keen. left his picture their but took the content out! hahaha

maybe he knew I was right! anyway , I emailed keen customer support to ask for a full 55.00 refund of what I spend since the 1st of this month lets see if they refund me! lol

I have a hughe list of so called keen fake psychics. they know all about you they have there disscussion groups within their group and tell all! bascially who is the best paying cusomters and who keeps asking for free minutes, who keeps asking the same things over and over again! yup then the people like your selfs fall for it!

now one is 100% psychic! infact I personally can not read peoples minds! or predict the future!
so they basically tell you what you want to hear!
I was stupid to the fact I listened to a few of the so called good ones! folks what ever you do please do not give them your personal info or tell them anything! if they are psychic let them tell you!!!!

Pennyc - chatted with well over two years. the past two years nothing! supposed to be the best on keen! her rate now 19.99 minute its all about $$$ folks

Intent to Charm - Daniel freindly at first but then doesnt want you to aks for minutes! keeps tell you the same things over and over again!

Melody127 otherwise known as Mika not even her account used to be really great but the past year doesnt care.

Sunshine-Clairvoyant Medium -In it for the money putting her self through law school.

One Intuitive Soul - ok in the beginning , but tell you what you want and agree with you! giver her info and she will hold it for your next call!
never response to emails.

Deborah Lynn11 -great with names and such. but the last time I called she jumped all over me because it pisted her off I asked for minutes to go with mine and she is also in it for the $$$.

Lady Campbell of SanFrancisco - total fake! way to much for the crap she tells you spells fake do not buy into this type of psychic not worth screwing your life up!

Psychic Selena - gets you to call on her 1.99 minute then ask for more $$$ to remove bad Karma!

I AM Shiva - not only is he a psychic but he also is on their Flirt section. fake total fake.

Psychic Master Om -same person from the above!

LovenMoney Master -Also the same person from above

kittenit- total fake think about it kittenit come on...

Angel3 -total bitch fake very rude

Ok is this enough for everybody or do you need more! still want to hear what you need to know?
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#31 Author of original report

To Des in Australia, my experience backs up the post regarding the readers

AUTHOR: Jay - (U.S.A.)

All I can say is my experience backs up the post regarding the readers.

I am fully aware that these folks sound great at times, very spiritual sounding, able to know some things and with a lot of precision too at times. These facts do not make them capable of counselling critical matters. In fact I have seen plenty of evidence that these appearances conceal some appalling pathology at times, especially regarding some you named.

I can only report my experience, each of those people were light years off the mark in my experience ... or unable to see the picture clearly but gave resounding, ultimately worthless, readings.

In addition the reports of other reeaders about them, as I already reported, whether true or not, show that Keen.com is infested with morally impoverished people. If those reports are true its one kind of hidous mess and if they are false its another. If they do deliberately decieve callers and laugh amongst themselves after or if a fellow top rated reader just reported that falsely .... is that a setting to go for anything?
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#32 Consumer Comment

the fact remains ....people are quite incompetent regarding critical situations

AUTHOR: Jay - (U.S.A.)

That most of these people are quite incompetent regarding critical situations and the evidence of that is all over the place but is suppressed by Keen.com. Readings have more to do with these peoples limitations to truly understand and advise based on wisdom and altruism. Its more about money ... and you know how that can motivate people as well as overrule morality and ethics.

Yes they can know some things some times and my research shows it makes them dangerous because people tend to confer way way too much credibility on them just because they can know some superficial facts. That is interesting but hardly makes them competent to advise important matters.

We really need to respect the postive potential in what these abilities represent ... most of what is happening on Keen.com trashes the excellent potential of it for mankind by reducing it to "dog and pony show" by half baked readers representing themselves as truly competent.

I have done my research and seen overwhelming evidence of this.

Perhaps the one fact you site is not as significant as you suppose though of course its great if it helped you. There is a bigger picture.
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#33 Consumer Comment

Shame on YOU!

AUTHOR: Sharon - (U.S.A.)

To take your personal problem to such an extreme is wrong! You are playing w/peoples lively hood and that is not fair play.

You mentioned a reader that I can personally attest is true and accurate. Because you do not hear what you want does not make them bad.

Queen of Cups told me that she smelled fire and that I needed to be careful she went on and on about careful. With the smell of fire she saw me losing a pet and moving. She could not pin point all the details but she did warn me. A few months after this reading my large screen tv blew up and caught my entire house on fire. My cat was in the same room and bashed her body on the door several times to wake me but to no avail. My house did burn I had to move and my cat died in the fire! What I did get from Queen of Cups was the warning and I had a fire plan in my head for months.
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#34 Consumer Comment

Jay, what are you trying to say??? You contact them and pay them for information and insight concerning your future, really expecting them to KNOW IT!

AUTHOR: Bsmjem - (U.S.A.)

Jay pure and simple, psychics and all the other crystal ball owners are the smart one's here! You contact them and pay them for information and insight concerning your future, really expecting them to KNOW IT! How very sad and pathetic. Witch craft and spellery also are authentic right? With todays technology and education, I find it disturbing that people with an educational back round would and do promote and beleive all this crap is real and obtainable!!!! How come I don't see monkeys gathering around a psychic monkey asking about their future concerning banannas? Because they know that the only one who can predict and or influence your future, is you, yourself!!!
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#35 Consumer Comment

Re: Keen.com: To the defenders of these disgraceful people

AUTHOR: Jay - (U.S.A.)

Some of these people are indeed able to know some things about others remotely. In the absense of very strong moral and ethical grounding, true skill and insight, which my experience shows is usually absent, that is making them dangerous to those who invest any trust in them. Only a tiny number are in possesion of the numerous other qualities it takes (wisdom, altruism, true insight, detachment from the money, psychological smarts) to assist anyone with a credit card and a telephone who may call for insight into important questions. Undoubtedly most are highly dependant on the money and that almost always contaminates the quality of the work.

Reading is a delicate internal procecss apparently mediated through emotional centers in the brain. Very very few are enlightened enough to exclude thier own survival issues (lizard brain) and emotional problems to sustain the internal clarity necessary for what they call "clear channel" reading. Thus these people are more dangerous than a poorly trained surgeon or psychiatrist and should be socially sanctioned in a similar manner.

It is an interesting paradox that the only reason the morally impoverished or insufficiently skilled people are able to continue to damage the lives of callers is because society considers them a kind of joke and has not taken them seriously enough to regulate. The addition of the internet has afforded the opportunity of wildly amplified exposure and big big money. That big money has amplified the immoral and depraved aspect as well as the plain old opportunity for easy money working at home with legal protection and without the slightest quality control. Anyone with a computer and a telephone can sign up to be a reader. Even those who have some real ability to know some things rarely posses the other necessary qualities. The easy money of course motivates these folks and is accompanied by every rationale and justification in the book from those who wish to defend.

As someone who has spent a lifetime in health care professions (pop was an MD, training in metaphysics, psychology, psychotherapy, medicine, psychiatry, neurology,) who knew a few truly well qualified readers for meny many years I was unprepared for the destructive low quality which is the rule on Keen.com even among those who have perceptive ability. It won't always be as bad as what I witnessed but the fact that it can get as what I saw in the vast majority of these people is cause for anyone to stay away unless you know the reader very very well.

Another unpleasant reality, I have witnessed some very dark pathology coming from some of the top readers on Keen.com. This indicates the annonymity of the net and disclaimers written by teams of attorneys is, in some of these people, hiding some very sick folks.

Keen has made it impossible for callers to communicate with each other to compare notes. I did my research on keen.com by interacting with other callers before they made this impossible. That is how I know there are so many deceptions and so many vulnerable people who are being victimized by these low quality people.
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#36 Consumer Comment

Dawn, spend your money on me!!!!!

AUTHOR: Bsmjem - (U.S.A.)

Dawn, please spend your money on me-I will tell you what ever you want to here-as long as the cash flo is not interupted! HOW PATHETIC YOU ARE. Holistic Healer, or what ever you call them. The REAL GIFT here, is the ability to secure monitary gains from people like you, without doubt!!!! "yeah I got some good news for you but I will need a little faith encouragement($$$$$) from you to divulge it". Whats the real shame here-? The real shame here is that I could be making big bucks by providing you with nothing but illusions! This is truely better than a INFORMOTIAL!!! What I need from you Dawn, is a list of all your spiritial connections and the spirital content that was given you concerning your;DEATH, marital status,past, current, and expected monitary compansation,(after taxes of course)!!! Dawn, please realize that any and all information that I furnish is purely fictious in nature and is to be used as an stepping stone into the world of dillusional income based on your STUPIDITY!!! PAY ME(IN CASH NOTHING OVER A 20.00$ ACCEPTED) AND THE WORLD IS YOUR'S...... A quote from "IF THE PRICE IS RITE, YOUR RITE,!!!
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#37 Consumer Suggestion

Telephone Psychics Are Not The Best Idea To Date

AUTHOR: Dawn - (U.S.A.)

After reading your report on your experience with Keen, I felt the need to share my own experience. I truly believe that God gave some people a gift, some use it wisely some use it to con others. I happen to have a holistic healer, who I see once a week. I will try to keep this short as possible. 6 months ago my life was in a wreck and I wasnt the main cause but my actions didnt help.

My healer was able to tell me the things I was doing to hurt someone whom I love very much and I never told her a thing. All I did was sit down and ask for a reading. She knew about my abusive past and a whole lot of things that I never shared with her.

So I believe the gift is real. I used to have bipolar episodes quite frequently almost to the point to where I almost did something I knew I would regret and it could have landed in me in a jail or a mental institution.

I do believe her and God worked together to get me through this. I say if you want to go the clairvoyant route you are better finding someone who will do it in person. It is not cheap but neither are MD's and they are making a killing between visits and prescription meds (that keep getting recalled). You cant become dependent on this kind of work though.

You are still responsible for your actions. Your psychic, holistic healer or clairvoyant is only there to guide not do all the work for you. As my healer always tell me....a healer can only be as good as the patient will allow.
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#38 Consumer Comment

pierre, had I only thought years ago!!!

AUTHOR: Bsmjem - (U.S.A.)

Pierre, you are so right. Giving people money to forcast your life's intentions, is not only expensive, its rediculas. Had I only known this years ago that people would pay me big bucks to "forcast" their life's direction I would have done so!! Being paid to lie to someone and giving them FICTIONAL details and events concerning their direction seems like a dream job!!! Steven King, move over!!!
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#39 Consumer Comment

Psychics are not psychologists and you are responsible for your life

AUTHOR: Des - (Australia)

I read this report many times and would agree with the writer that it is very easy to become hooked on calling psychics when things are not good in ones life and one is hoping for change.

However, psychics can only give you the information that they receive and it is up to you to decide what you are going to do with that information or what steps to take next in your life. If what you are hearing is completely contrary to what you are seeing or experiencing then it would be obvious that you need to re assess your own situation. Most readers are not psychologists so turning to them for that kind of help is ill advised. If predictions are 100% failed as the writer mentioned then quite obviously it is time to find another way to heal.

I have spoken to many many people on these sites as I have tried to negotiate my own heartbreak but it is choice and it remains my choice to do so. I can't speak for all the readers on keen or those named in the report as I have not spoken to them personally BUT in my experience and in the experience of many others THELADYRHIANNON, QUEEN OF CUPS18 AND LADY PERSEPHONE ARE NOT DESERVING OF THIS ATTACK. Each one of them have been honest and accurate in what they share with me and each is a professional, moral and ethical person whose desire is to help not to hurt.

For the writer who feels like his life has been destroyed by readings - learn from it and might I suggest that you take responsibility for yourself and spend your time working toward fixing it and finding a way forward rather than remaining stuck in blaming others for your misfortune.
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#40 Consumer Comment

come here my suckers!!!!

AUTHOR: Pierre - (U.S.A.)

Theses impostors must be laughing
HOW can people be so dumb to call these fakes???
If they where so good they would raffle all the lottery and break every casino in the world.

They are not god for Christ sake wake up people.
You and you alone are the master of your life
You live it or endure it . It's up to you and you alone
So stop and get control of your life and do something with it.
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#41 Consumer Comment

come here my suckers!!!!

AUTHOR: Pierre - (U.S.A.)

Theses impostors must be laughing
HOW can people be so dumb to call these fakes???
If they where so good they would raffle all the lottery and break every casino in the world.

They are not god for Christ sake wake up people.
You and you alone are the master of your life
You live it or endure it . It's up to you and you alone
So stop and get control of your life and do something with it.
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#42 Consumer Comment

come here my suckers!!!!

AUTHOR: Pierre - (U.S.A.)

Theses impostors must be laughing
HOW can people be so dumb to call these fakes???
If they where so good they would raffle all the lottery and break every casino in the world.

They are not god for Christ sake wake up people.
You and you alone are the master of your life
You live it or endure it . It's up to you and you alone
So stop and get control of your life and do something with it.
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#43 Consumer Comment

My Personal Experiences with One Named Keen Readers

AUTHOR: Sandra - (U.S.A.)

Like the complainant I have also gotten into the habit of calling psychics, not only on Keen but all over the internet. As a matter of fairness however, there is one reader on Keen who is worth mentioning, that I feel is not deserving of the comments made by this person. After calling numerous psychics on Keen I called Queen of Cups18 for the first time two years ago. At the onset she indicated that I was spending a lot of money on the site and needed to get it under control. Then she said to me that the person in question was NOT going to re-enter my life. She also brought up two main points, one that I had planned to buy a house with the person in question, and two I had helped another guy with a car. She was correct.

I wanted to keep hearing what I wanted to hear so I kept calling other people for hope. The following day I called back hoping to hear a different answer; and she snapped at me. She said 'didn't I talk to you yesterday about the same thing?' I was shocked because she did not allow me to stay on the phone. She told me that I was dependent and needed to get it under control. She also told me that she has blocked a lot of callers who are 'recreational' users.

Two years later this person did not return, and I went back to Queen of Cups18 in May, telling her that she was the only one who was honest with me, and wrote a feedback on her page to that effect. When she saw how distraught I was she said that I did not need a reading, I needed to talk to someone for help. She offered her home number NOT to get me to pay her off keen, but to speak with me to help me work through this crisis. My personal experience with this reader has been nothing short of good. She is full of integrity and on her page she writes that she has no problem 'blocking' people who become dependent on her for readings. Her readings are based on interpretation of the medium she uses which is the tarot, and based on my personal experience, she is quite capable.

As callers and consumers, we have to take FULL responsibility for our own actions. No one forces us to spend $$$$ utilizing these services. This person obviously had very bad experienes and seems to have a personal axe to grind; and the contents are similar to the same posting on Dr. Phil's website. Like me, at some point you will have to take account for your own behavior, thoughts and actions. Addiction comes in different forms.
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