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  • Submitted: Wed, July 06, 2005
  • Updated: Thu, November 16, 2006

  • Reported By:Aurora Colorado
Kelly Advertising Group
Burbank, California U.S.A.

Kelly Advertising Group - Granton Marketing Ripoff Peddling, Pyramid Scheme, Bulls**t Burbank, Denver California, Colorado

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Shame, Shame..

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Shame, Shame..

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Shame, Shame..

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Shame, Shame..

*Author of original report: Menton Who?

*UPDATE Employee: Denver is still open..The con is alive

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: In response

*Consumer Comment: Fes, I have fun with idiots like that!

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: KELLY ADVERTISING

*Consumer Comment: Keith blames company for personal failure

*Author of original report: Typical response, still avoiding reality

*UPDATE Employee: A little about the people who work on behalf og granton marketing

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I was offered a position with this company but I didn't take it because I have done work like this before and didn't go anywhere. It was not for a lack of trying but I could totally see right through to the scam.

Unfortunately, my fiance got sucked into this and there is just no way of making her see the light. no matter what I try. Kelly advertising closed the office here in Denver and she decided to move to Burbank. Well I figured the best way for her to learn was going to be the hard way.

Granted, I have some college experience and I work in retail. I still don't know what I want to do for a career, but I know that I do not want to do retail the rest of my life.

She on the other hand has two Bachelors degrees and it is disheartening knowing that she could be doing better.
Instead, she chooses to work her a** off for a company that doesn't offer benefits, no guaranteed pay check, she has to use her own car, no gas reimbursement, files a 1099 at the end of the year, and hardly ever sees any of her family.

I am somewhat pissed that I was put aside for this type of job and I know that it would be really easy to separate with her but I still have hope that she will break the brainwashing that is going on.

I read some of the other responses to Kelly Advertising and all of them are true and exact. I would hope that my response would encourage others to realize that this is a dead end job filled with false hopes.

I would like to leave you all with an account of the type of people that they do not want working for them.
I was told a story about a kid, and when I say kid, he was in his early 20's, that applied for this job and really gave it a shot. He did the job for maybe a week and he called and told my fiance later that night that he didn't think that this job was going to work out. She tried to convince him otherwise. In the end he told her that he was the only one taking care of his kid and that the 70+ hours a week wouldn't be enough to trade his time for his kid. I think that a single dad, especially at his age with that type of responsibility and the conviction to take that on by himself are so few and far. In the end, the perfect people for this job would at least be the homeless, not that I would wish this on anyone, but at least it could get them off the freeway exits and off the streets.

Keith
Aurora, Colorado
U.S.A.

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#1 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Shame, Shame..

AUTHOR: Menton - (U.S.A.)

Keith,

you are a liar. When I say I know you it's not that I think I know you, it means I know who you are. We worked together fool!
You did work for Innovative Marketing. (Granton)

I remember the day you brought your fiance into the office about a week before the Christmas party in Palm Springs.

When Simon left for Chicago he recruited you by default and your fiance was going to be his office manager.

Now how she ended up at Kelly advertising in Burbank, I am sure is a story for the ages. Bottom line is you washed out and those office owners were giving her something that obviously she wasn't getting at home.

...They still are, by the way.

This is not an indictment of Granton Marketing. It is a tragic story of loss at your being punked by younger, smarter men of authority who had more money and moxie that you.

You would have been better off writing Ann Landers..
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#2 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Shame, Shame..

AUTHOR: Menton - (U.S.A.)

Keith,

you are a liar. When I say I know you it's not that I think I know you, it means I know who you are. We worked together fool!
You did work for Innovative Marketing. (Granton)

I remember the day you brought your fiance into the office about a week before the Christmas party in Palm Springs.

When Simon left for Chicago he recruited you by default and your fiance was going to be his office manager.

Now how she ended up at Kelly advertising in Burbank, I am sure is a story for the ages. Bottom line is you washed out and those office owners were giving her something that obviously she wasn't getting at home.

...They still are, by the way.

This is not an indictment of Granton Marketing. It is a tragic story of loss at your being punked by younger, smarter men of authority who had more money and moxie that you.

You would have been better off writing Ann Landers..
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#3 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Shame, Shame..

AUTHOR: Menton - (U.S.A.)

Keith,

you are a liar. When I say I know you it's not that I think I know you, it means I know who you are. We worked together fool!
You did work for Innovative Marketing. (Granton)

I remember the day you brought your fiance into the office about a week before the Christmas party in Palm Springs.

When Simon left for Chicago he recruited you by default and your fiance was going to be his office manager.

Now how she ended up at Kelly advertising in Burbank, I am sure is a story for the ages. Bottom line is you washed out and those office owners were giving her something that obviously she wasn't getting at home.

...They still are, by the way.

This is not an indictment of Granton Marketing. It is a tragic story of loss at your being punked by younger, smarter men of authority who had more money and moxie that you.

You would have been better off writing Ann Landers..
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#4 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Shame, Shame..

AUTHOR: Menton - (U.S.A.)

Keith,

you are a liar. When I say I know you it's not that I think I know you, it means I know who you are. We worked together fool!
You did work for Innovative Marketing. (Granton)

I remember the day you brought your fiance into the office about a week before the Christmas party in Palm Springs.

When Simon left for Chicago he recruited you by default and your fiance was going to be his office manager.

Now how she ended up at Kelly advertising in Burbank, I am sure is a story for the ages. Bottom line is you washed out and those office owners were giving her something that obviously she wasn't getting at home.

...They still are, by the way.

This is not an indictment of Granton Marketing. It is a tragic story of loss at your being punked by younger, smarter men of authority who had more money and moxie that you.

You would have been better off writing Ann Landers..
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#5 Author of original report

Menton Who?

AUTHOR: Keith - (U.S.A.)

I have never worked for the Granton marketing and have never had to kiss any person's a** to get ahead. It is true that one should be an individual and I believe that we sell ourselves out when we have to brown nose or suck up to get ahead a step or two. I think you might have the wrong guy in mind. The way I see it now is that I am perfectly happy but it is still a disappoinment in my life that I had to go through that but obviously things happen for a reason and as I look back on that now...well things are for the better. Thanks for the reply and good luck to you in the future.
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#6 UPDATE Employee

Denver is still open..The con is alive

AUTHOR: Menton - (U.S.A.)

Keith,

Since your initial response was last year I am sure you know by now that Granton Marketing is alive and well in Denver. Galen runs the operation. I think the company name is Aloha marketing or something cheesy like that.

Actually I worked with you in Simon's office on 700 N. Broadway. Most of everything you say is correct about the business. It is predatory where only the strong survive, and you need a lot of weaklings for the strong to eat, abuse, or manipulate, whatever term you would choose to make.

While I too, am not in the business anymore, it strikes me as odd that you would take such a hard position on a business plan that was very plain from the beginning. Certainly from day, let's say, three. I did not hear much complaining from you when we were out in the field pounding that pavement. We were soldiers believing the dream of self empowerment.

Even then you took every shortcut you could to move up the ladder without learning the lessons the hard way. The way we all had to endure. No one kissed Simon's butt as hard as you did. No one played the flunky better than you did.
You even went so far as to 'serve up' your own woman by bringing her out to the Christmas party.

You knew what type of predatory sexual deviants worked at that office. Yet you brought her out.
It wasn't long before the powers that be tapped that. You were powerless to stop it because you were and are still a weakling. Now you are waiting for her to 'come to her senses' and come back to you? Man...

Granton Marketing is a pure marketing plan. It did not work for me. I feel it won't for most, however what is the harm in trying to find your niche? You did.

If the only lesson that you can impart about this company is that they took your girlfriend and she won't come back. Well that says alot about you and your girl. Not Granton.

When you were attempting to weasel your way up the food chain brown nosing and back door treachery, we had no respect for you then. Now you are crying about them taking your woman?
They didn't take your woman Keith. They took your manhood, what little you brought to the table.

I don't know how it works in all Granton offices but I have worked in four of them. In each office all of the women are converted to whores because they are like minded people seeking the power the men have. All of the female recruits are recruited for business first and then sexual favors second. Believe me they WILL be hustled the first day they hit the office.

That doesn't make it right, but that was the system at the offices I worked at. The system at the office you and I worked at. Then you consciously bring your women up into that environment? Man, you really were trying to get to the top fast!

What are you complaining about? You played fast and loose with your opportunity and your lost. Cry me a river. Get over it.
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#7 UPDATE EX-employee responds

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AUTHOR: Fes - (U.S.A.)

Good move,

Honestly if door to door people come
to me in the future, I'll genuinely
try to tell them they're getting hustled
if they are not brainwashed already.

It's a sad thing, I met many good people
as well as scumbags, but the one thing they had
was INCREDIBLE work ethic, but a lot of them
come from desperate situations and it's sad
to watch them fall for the trap.

I'm actually hoping someone does a news report on
these guys.

It's sad, I spent nights after hitting the field
hearing my coworkers dreams about making enough to support their family etc., in the end they got
taught how to hustle but they are the ones hustled the most.

Those are the good people, the scumbags would rob
an old lady for a sell. You could smell it.
One time a Vp came and spoke to us, he bragged about all he had etc, everyone was eating it up,
but he was the greasiest scumbag I think I've ever seen, if hustling for years to end up like that is the reward,

no thanks.
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#8 Consumer Comment

Fes, I have fun with idiots like that!

AUTHOR: Steve - (U.S.A.)

Fes,

I really have fun with idiots who try to be smart.

I had one of those door to door hustlers try that with me one time when I lived in phoenix. They used taht old bit about my neighbor buying it, etc.

I thanked that peron for saving me some money. He looked at me a little confused and asked how is that/ I told him that my neighbor was my best freind and that since he bought it, I could just use his whenever I wanted!

:)
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#9 UPDATE EX-employee responds

KELLY ADVERTISING

AUTHOR: Fes - (U.S.A.)

I'm a former employee of Kelly Advertising.
Let me start by saying if you work your
butt off and survive you can make a lot of money.

That said, you have to make the money by hustling as well. That's the main problem I had with this company, they teach you how "to raise impulse in the buyer." For example one of the staple techniques is the "Jones effect", Kelly Advertising trains this by going door to door and telling people their neighbor bought "this many" of this product when in actuality they probably bought none. This is why when they go door to door they try to get your name, so if you don't buy anything they can use your name to hustle your neighbor. This is not a uncommon practice there, but actually a staple of the training.

I quit the job a couple days after I actually turned down a sale to a poor woman who fell for the trap but didnt have much money, it just wasn't worth it. But if it's worth selling your integrity to get rich. Work for them. The sad part is a lot of the employees are damn hard workers, but you have to sell a lot of yourself
to get money for this group. I don't believe its worth it.
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#10 Consumer Comment

Keith blames company for personal failure

AUTHOR: Nancy - (U.S.A.)

Keith is obviously blaming a company for the fact that his finance just "wasn't that into him". She left him to pursue a career opportunity that she thought was a good one. Some jobs aren't meant for those who want to sit around with their feet up on the desk and collect a check. To me, it looks like she made the right decision. This guy doesn't seem like someone you would like to invest a lot of time on. He is bad-mouthing a good company with many fine and successful people
associated with it. Every time a rep comes to my door with one of their products - I purchase it. The products are great. What better way to learn a business than from the bottom up with hard work. If more people had the work ethic of those who are with Kelly Advertising and other companies like it - this country would be in a much better place. Unfortunately whiney ne'er-do-wells like Keith are everywhere.
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#11 Author of original report

Typical response, still avoiding reality

AUTHOR: Keith - (U.S.A.)

You have outdone yourself to prove me right, but nobody can really blame ignorance. As an update to my story. I have broken up with my fiance and sad to say she is still in the same business and dating someone from the execu-card side. They have amazingly moved in together and are such the happy couple. So not only does this company ruin lives by providing false truths but it's obvious that this is a dating service as well. Kill two birds with one stone I guess. Here's the special part about "owning" your own business. If you actually fill out federal and state forms and get a business license and describe yourself as a proprietor or corporate or limited liability company with the IRS then you really don't own "your" business. Through this kind of company you don't really own your own business or office or anything like that. That is what every company wants their employess to do... to take ownership in what they do and who they work for. That's what leads to successful business. Someone that is really successful and boasts about it by flashing their paychecks around reminds me of the late night paid programming that comes out at 3 in the morning... "And you could be making $20,000 a month just like I did." Blah, blah, blah. All I can say is good luck, hopefully you'll find success but if not, I'm sure there might be someone that you can date or hook up with there at the office.
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#12 UPDATE Employee

A little about the people who work on behalf og granton marketing

AUTHOR: Ricky - (U.S.A.)

just like everything else in the world this type of job is not for everyone. it disappoints me to see people bringing up negatives about this company. very simply put.... this company is just like sports at all levels.

every kid has dreams of becoming a pro athlete. in high school they work heard to stay in shape and maintain good grades to hopefully be noticed by a college team or even a pro team. then they move on. then they work hearder to make it to the next level after the one they are in. say college they have to spend hours in the gym plus practice plus school work plus not to mention road trips missing classes and make up work. and what do they get out of it? an education. college is over and no pro team wants this kid. were those 4 years a waste? NO the people who make it to the pros are the top players on their teams or in the league or in the country. same with this company if people can go out and make 600 to 1700 a week then it is proof that the system works...if people go from not having a job making nothing to running an offive in 12 to 18 months it is proof that it works. just like in sports not everyone makes it only the top players in each office or in the country will find themselves with a great situation!

personally i am very happy with the progress ive made and the fact that i am given the opportunity to create my own business and the only cost to me is time. and it is time in which i am making money. if you can find a company that pays you to start a business and all they ask for in return is hard work. i dont think there is anything else like this out there
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