- Report: #1018062
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Complaint Review: Kevin Nelson
Kevin Nelson5042 Wilshire Blvd #244 Los Angeles, California United States of America
Kevin Nelson Kevin Jerome Nelson, Kevyn Jerome Nelson, Kevin Hall Nelson the many names of Kevin Los Angeles, California
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Were putting this on RIPOFF REPORT in the hopes that others will read this and have knowledge BEFORE getting involved with Kevyn/Kevin Jerome/Hall Nelson or any one of his business aliases (WORLDWIDE CREDIT AND FINANCIAL SOLUTIONS INC., Chart-Vision, CVI Wealth). We are trying to be thorough and as accurate as possible without adding our own conjecture, so please bear with us.
NOTE We told Kevyn Jerome Nelson about one of the people Darren Smith sent to us being on RIPOFF REPORT; Kevyn Jerome Nelson said that just because someone is on RIPOFF REPORT doesnt necessarily mean anything. Then we found HIM on RIPOFF REPORT. Notice the similarities between how Kevyn/Kevin Nelson handled the other people and how he handled us.
We were introduced to Kevyn Jerome Nelson in June of 2012 from Darren Smith (you can also read his bio on RIPOFF REPORT). We are a small startup group trying to find the means to get our business going, and since Darren Smith hadnt delivered, he introduced us to Kevyn Jerome Nelson stating that this guy wrote the book on corporate credit. We sent the authorization to Darren Smith to have our credit cards charged for Kevyn Jerome Nelsons services for a total of $4,114.85; although the authorization to charge the card went to Darren Smith, it was Kevyn Jerome Nelson that charged our cards. Kevyn Jerome Nelson said that his clients were important to him, and that he would have a time that he would call us every week; we set Sundays at 9:00 pm aside for those calls, but received only one call at that pre-established time in 8 months.
Kevyn Jerome Nelson said he was setting up everything for the corporation we supposedly had (see the RIPOFF REPORT for Darren Smith) and was working with the credit bureaus to remove inquiries; we have no tangible proof this was ever done, only Kevyns word. After several months (we were told everything would take about 4 to 6 weeks) we found out that the corporation from Darren Smith was a scam. Kevyn Jerome Nelson confided in us that he knew from the beginning that the corporation wouldnt work, but said he didnt say anything at the time because he didnt want to look bad like he was trying to sell us something.
We dropped Darren Smith and Kevyn Jerome Nelson said hed go ahead and give us one of his shelf corporations for the setup cost, which was another $1,399.00, and said hed redo everything he did before free of charge because he really made his money from these deals on the back end.
On December 2nd, 2012, Kevyn Jerome Nelson emailed us a PDF version of the corporate docs; no bill of sale or transfer and no originals. A couple weeks later the corporate kit arrived. When we asked where the originals were, he said that they stayed with the registered agent; for anyone that has gotten a corporation, you KNOW that this is not how this works the owner gets the docs.
We were told repeatedly that things were moving, we were going to begin next week or this week, but he would only give us excuses as to why nothing was progressing. In early December, he said he needed to update the corporate filing; this was a common excuse but there were reasons that he couldnt. Then he said that the guy that helps him open bank accounts was away and wed have to wait for him to get back.
This is one email we sent:
Does this look familiar?
By leading the way in quality service, dependability, and creative innovations in both the entertainment and general business arena, Kevyn Jerome has strived continuously to reach a high level of success on every project and business endeavor with which he has been involved.
Great PR we have yet to see it in action! quality service, dependability WEVE BEEN SCREAMING FOR IT!!
Lets talk Wednesday at 4:15 Sharp I will not be late and it will not change you said, I will have all good news Nothing! This was received by us on Monday, January 28th at 5:45 pm; by Tuesday, January 29th at 3:25 pm, less than 24 hours later, you had already changed the date of the call I will not be late and it will not change We emailed back and confirmed that, we'll talk to you on Thursday at 4:15. Here we are, Thursday evening and no call from you; AGAIN. When should we begin to start disbelieving everything you say?
email@example.com & your twitter account is @imontopofmygame. Im changing the game Im on top of my game These are your icons. Is this you being at the top of your game? We dont like to think so. If this is you at the top of your game, wow, not good at all; and if youre NOT at the top of your game, we need to know how to get you there. We dont think youre at the top of your game, and believe it or not, we want you at the top of your game, but avoiding us wont get any of us there.
FYI - We gave the formal go-ahead to you to get things moving with a corporation just after thanksgiving. The first thing you said we needed was a local address; you said that once it was established, you could push the button, and so we got the address and on November 29th you wrote, Bottons being pushed TODAY!!! That was two months ago.
The initial paperwork for the corporation was already done in 2007; we got the documentation on December 2nd; we got the corporate kit around December 20th; on December 20th, you stated in an email, I did speak to the Secretary of State this morning and they will have everything updated by WED the 26th so the bank account will be opened at that time. I will go the same day to do the foreign filing. If you spoke to the Secretary of States office on December 20th and they were supposed to have everything updated, why wasnt everything updated? We found out last week that the corporation was (involuntarily) dissolved on December 3rd and was never reinstated; no follow up. This means that we had the corporate paperwork for less than 24 hours before the corporation was involuntarily dissolved. We dont know if the foreign filing was done as we have no record of this happening and dont know how you could get a foreign filing for a defunct corporation anyway, and, as we all know, the bank account hasnt been opened.
Weve asked you before to tell us if were wrong and you have not once challenged what weve been saying to you about you, which confirms to us that what were saying is correct. The best youve ever done is try to make us feel like weve done something wrong by bringing up issues with emails you never actually sent.
Youve told us that you cant hire an assistant because there are things only you can do; this rules out us stepping in and taking over, because if your book covered everything you can do that needs to be done, you could hire an assistant in a heartbeat, give them your book and say, This is what I need you to do This effectively ties our hands because if you cant get an assistant taught, were certainly out of the loop.
Right now, the problem we have is that youre hiding from us. Not calling = hiding. Emailing and avoiding calling = hiding. Texting and not calling = hiding. Not emailing, texting OR calling = hiding. No, its not as simple as, I dont have any update. When you text or email and dont call, especially when one is deserved and/or warranted, you dont have to confront the tough questions, and that = hiding.
Step up and deliver the quality service and dependability you advertise and we deserve. Get your act together. Grow a pair and call! STOP HIDING!
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We paid the Secretary of States office to get information on the corporation itself and found that Kevyn Jerome Nelson was still listed as the president of the corporation. We were told several times from Kevyn that everything would be ready this week and hed submit funding paperwork. This could NOT have been the truth at any time because the corporation was still in his name.
This is our final email to him:
We talked to the Xxxxxxxxxxxx Secretary of States office to see if you did anything at all to bring Xxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxx up to speed. We found that nothing has been filed to bring the company up to date and that you still have yourself listed as the President and your own officers listed. You gave us a PDF copy of the documentation and not the original, and gave us no bill of sale or transfer. In other words, for over two months youve been saying that everything was being taken care of regarding Xxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxx so we could start the process Phase One, but if fact, nothing has been done at all and we dont even have anything that shows Xxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxx is ours.
All your talk about pushing the button, getting a bank account, etc., was just hot air you couldnt have started the process with Xxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxx in the condition its in. This is fascinating to us because this is the same exact reason you gave for not being able to work with your predecessors corporation (it wasnt in any condition to be used for the purpose intended), yet you havent even gotten your very own corporation running. Is this why youre in hiding from us?
The Xxxxxxxxxxxx Secretary of States office gave us the number for the Xxxxxxxxxxxx Attorney Generals office and suggested we can call and file a complaint. Can you give us any reason why we shouldnt?
We are giving you the same opportunity we gave your predecessor by giving you a chance to get back in touch with us, come clean and fix the problem you yourself created. Filing the necessary paperwork only takes a day and presto-chango the corporation is up, current and running. You pretended that you were doing this well over a month ago with excuses why you couldnt (BTW - saying you were doing something when in fact you were not is called a lie). Why all the subterfuge when it was such an easy fix?
The investigation is on for your predecessor, it is up to you if you want to be investigated by the Xxxxxxxxxxxx Attorney General (State) and our credit cards fraud department (Federal), or man up and make things right.
Although you have every right to put any reasons you may have for your behavior in writing, we will not accept an email or text response only a phone call. Both of us are busy during the day, so you can call us after 6 pm. Give yourself a wide timeframe for the call because if you do call, it will be with the intention to actually fix these issues (and there are many) and get everything you advertise you can do moving; were not glossing over anything. You have been very successful in destroying our confidence and trust in you; if you want to make things right, youre going to have to work hard and earn your reputation back.
You have until tomorrow evening if we havent heard from you by then, come Thursday morning we will move forward.
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Darren Smith was the predecessor we referred to in the email. We didnt hear back from Kevyn and began the process as we said we would Thursday morning. We got two different communications from Kevyn after this last email was sent; both on Wednesday, February 13th, 2013: One was an email from Kevyn Jerome Nelson with the subject line of, EVERYTHING IS BACK ON TRACK that stated Expect all updates tomorrow and I will begin submitting apps on Friday. We were kind of shocked because two weeks earlier we made it clear that we were through with him. We sent back an email telling him that he had to call if he wanted to set things right; he didnt call and never sent another email. We realized that his email to us was a mistake and was meant for someone else that he was dragging through the same thing he dragged us through.
The second communication was given to us through a call from our credit card fraud department staff who told us we had a suspicious attempted charge on the same afternoon that Kevyn sent us his last email; they confirmed it was an attempted charge at a Hyatt Hotel made by Kevyn Jerome Nelson who was trying to charge our card AGAIN. Fortunately, the hotel staff became suspicious and denied the charge. We have given everything we have regarding Kevyn Jerome Nelson to our cards fraud department even offered pictures! We havent heard from Kevyn since.
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