- Report: #574845
Complaint Review: Kevin Rivers, CEO of Watunes
| Kevin Rivers, CEO of Watunes 1824 10th St
Internet United States of America |
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Kevin Rivers, CEO - Watunes Watunes.com - Xeinge.com - MusicExpand.com Kevin Rivers of Watunes WILL rob you! Do NOT join Watunes or any of it's affiliates! Internet
*Consumer Comment: Makell Bird of ADE Distribution Lies! This Report Is False!
*Consumer Comment: I'm an artist that has used WaTunes, with great dis-satisfaction.
*Author of original report: Watunes scam fake CEO Kevin Rivers stealing royalties
*Consumer Comment: This Report is False!
*Consumer Comment: This Is Definitely Not True!
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Kevin Rivers uses a program called MyPRGenie to post several press releases to sucker people into signing up with his company Watunes. He claims to offer FREE distribution of your music into stores like itunes, amazon, e-music, etc.. Now, although he DOES have the ability to place your music into some of these stores (not all as he claims), what happens next is the NASTY part!
Assuming you have made sales of your music on these digital retail outlets, Kevin Rivers has created his own accounting software, instead of using professional spreadsheet software such as Microsoft Excel, which purposely miscalculates your royalties, leaving himself with a HUGE chunk of change at your expense! He will then send you his doctored monthly accounting report stating you made a certain amount of sales when, in reality, you probably made ALOT more!
I am speaking on this from personal experience as I, and about 1,000 other "clients" of his, have been ripped off so far. PLEASE don't be his next victim! The level Kevin Rivers will stoop to to rip you off is ridiculous!
Xeinge, Watunes, Venzo Digital, and Music Expand are not REAL companies. The checks he issues even list Xeinge as a DBA, not a private corporation as he is claiming to be a CEO of. Kevin Rivers is NOT a CEO. He is a young man in his early 20's whom still lives with his father! He does not have a real office. His office is his bedroom in his father's house. He uses the internet to set up these systems to bait-and-switch customers so that he can steal a portion of their royalties from itunes. He has changed his business model several times as to purposely keep his customers confused.
The sickening part is he has his friends and family working with him on this. He claims they are his business partners. My attorney has learned otherwise. Known associates include:
Kyle Rivers (Kevin River's younger brother whom Kevin sometimes claims is the President or VP of Watunes)
Tony Paul aka Tony Pytleski (Kevin Rivers friend, whom Kevin claims works for him and is VP too)
Keith Rivers (Kevin Rivers' father and head of household)
Marlene Rivers (Kevin River's mother whom currently resides in GA)
In the event you are looking to pursue Kevin Rivers in court, here is his contact info
Kevin Rivers
1824 10th St
Port Huron, MI 48060
Kevin Rivers has used the following phone numbers:
404-461-9342
810-941-9595
810-982-6906
This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 02/25/2010 10:51 AM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Kevin-Rivers-CEO-of-Watunes/internet/Kevin-Rivers-CEO-Watunes-Watunescom-Xeingecom-MusicExpandcom-Kevin-Rivers-of-W-574845. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.
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Makell Bird of ADE Distribution Lies! This Report Is False!
AUTHOR: Rodger Nixon - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, November 13, 2012
My name is Rodger and I can say by experience that Kevin Rivers is NOT a scam artist! I've been using his site called Venzo Digital. At first I was skeptical because I have read this thread first. However, when I was able to speak with Kevin personally, he never came across a guy that would steal royalties from artists! He was very diligent in helping me with my music and I get paid monthly with ACCURATE ROYALTIES!!!
Now I also see that this Makell Bird, the same person that calls Mr. Rivers a scam artist is ACTUALLY SCAMMING artists with his own company called ADEDistribution. Its actually typical if you do your research that this guy not only bashes Kevin but he also bashes other competitors including RouteNote, Ditto Music, CD Baby, TuneCore, Record Union, and SongCast to thwarf educated artists and labels to use his service. Below are sites where he bashes other companies by going to other peoples reviews about their distributor. Keep in mind that hes also using more than 100 YouTube Accounts to support his company:
Ditto Music Review - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3pQC4Agnak
TuneCore Review - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3xOkkLPvHY
Another Ditto Music Review - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqBOKNTykQA
Another TuneCore Review - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeoZmnCnwjk
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Makell Bird Bashing TuneCore -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btZE8-yMiJ8
Makell Bird Bashing CD Baby - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TJl1oSbPBo
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After viewing these videos, its clear that Makell Bird is known for bashing other people just to make himself look good. It's also clear that he is not really a businessman but just a guy who has a messy bedroom (not even a corporate office, let alone a clean room), have no time on his hands (meaning he has no time to even support artists), and has a site that just spells scam!
When you get on his site at ADEDistribution (aded.us), you can immediately sense a feeling of scams and insecurity on his site. He uses Blogger for a means to distribute music and Google Drive for a means to issue reports. Both of which are NOT what artists are looking for neither do they want to downgrade from a huge accounting system like TuneCore and CD Baby to one that doesn't work, let alone doesn't exist.
Another point to add is that Makell Bird is also a RACIST! I repeat: Makell Bird IS A RACIST! He rants against Asians and the Asian Community and I am convinced to believe that he has posted this report against Kevin due to his racial background. Below is the link to his Racist Video:
Makell Bird Makes Racist Rant Against Asians - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQbXNwoTdIo&feature=youtu.be
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With that said, I believe it is safe to say that if you are reading this response then you can rest assure that the postings that Makell Bird has written about Kevin Rivers and his company is false and that Makell Bird is known to rip off artists, scam them of their royalties, and even WORSE: Make racist comments to other races and ethnic groups (particularly Asians).
#2 Consumer Comment
I'm an artist that has used WaTunes, with great dis-satisfaction.
AUTHOR: oneduality - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, August 19, 2010
I was not getting rich off my music but I was getting paid monthly from tunecore quite steadily for two years.
When I made the switch to WaTunes .. the royalties dried up to the point of $0.00 .. not one red cent was earned!
I finally wrote up Kevin and he told me that indeed there's been sales and that royalties were owed, that there was some kind of error ... so I get my royalties, a whopping $7.00 .. I was livid ..
I was making quite a bit more than $7.00 when I was with tunecore.. it just didn't add up.. so I took my music and left.
#3 Author of original report
Watunes scam fake CEO Kevin Rivers stealing royalties
AUTHOR: Makell - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, March 24, 2010
Kevin Rivers uses a program called MyPRGenie to post several press releases to sucker people into signing up with his company Watunes. He claims to offer FREE distribution of your music into stores like itunes, amazon, e-music, etc.. Now, although he DOES have the ability to place your music into some of these stores (not all as he claims), what happens next is the NASTY part!
Assuming you have made sales of your music on these digital retail outlets, Kevin Rivers has created his own accounting software, instead of using professional spreadsheet software such as Microsoft Excel, which purposely miscalculates your royalties, leaving himself with a HUGE chunk of change at your expense! He will then send you his doctored monthly accounting report stating you made a certain amount of sales when, in reality, you probably made ALOT more!
I am speaking on this from personal experience as I, and about 1,000 other "clients" of his, have been ripped off so far. PLEASE don't be his next victim! The level Kevin Rivers will stoop to to rip you off is ridiculous!
Xeinge, Watunes, Venzo Digital, and Music Expand are not REAL companies. The checks he issues even list Xeinge as a DBA, not a private corporation as he is claiming to be a CEO of. Kevin Rivers is NOT a CEO. He is a young man in his early 20's whom still lives with his father! He does not have a real office. His office is his bedroom in his father's house. He uses the internet to set up these systems to bait-and-switch customers so that he can steal a portion of their royalties from itunes. He has changed his business model several times as to purposely keep his customers confused.
The sickening part is he has his friends and family working with him on this. He claims they are his business partners. My attorney has learned otherwise. Known associates include:
Kyle Rivers (Kevin River's younger brother whom Kevin sometimes claims is the President or VP of Watunes)
Keith Rivers (Kevin Rivers' father and head of household)
Marlene Rivers (Kevin River's mother whom currently resides in GA)
In the event you are looking to pursue Kevin Rivers in court, here is his contact info
Kevin Rivers
1824 10th St
Port Huron, MI 48060
Kevin Rivers has used the following phone numbers:
404-461-9342
810-941-9595
810-982-6906
#4 Consumer Comment
This Report is False!
AUTHOR: Frank Jaeger - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, March 05, 2010
#5 Consumer Comment
This Is Definitely Not True!
AUTHOR: Caesar - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, March 05, 2010
Caesar

