- Report: #471906
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Complaint Review: Kevin Rubenfeld
Kevin RubenfeldPO Box 27 City/State Manchester PostalCode M60 1SJ Country United Kingdom Nijmegen, Netherlands Netherlands
Kevin Rubenfeld He proposed me to ship the keys of a flat along with the rent papers via 'TNT' and deposits 2 month rent,700 Euros,via Western Union money transfer Nijmegen, Netherlands/ Manchester, England internet
Here are the texts to check out how similar Kevin Rubenfeld and Jean Dubois are (notice the same mistake in language: 'apartment":
"Thank you for your interest.As you can see I have available the apartment located in: In de Betouwstraat 15, Nijmegen 6511GA, Netherlands.It has 1 bedroom, 1 bathroom, 1 kitchen and 1 living room.Because I moved with my job in United Kingdom, Manchester and I need money to pay the rent here. This is the main reason I want to rent at this price and also to find a good person for my apartment.I can rent you the apt for max. 5 years because I have a contract here for this period. I 'm the owner of the apt and its like in the pics. The rent for 1 month is 350 Euro, but you must to deposit 700 euro/2months (for the whole apartment) including all utilities ( water, electricity, Internet, cable ). You can move in the apt in the same day when you receive the keys. The only problem is that I 'm the only person who have the keys but I hope that we will find a compromis. Thank you for your interest and I will look forward to hearing from you soon. Good luck,"
"Thank you for your reply but the matter is that I'm in Manchester already. Like I have inform you before, the price you shall pay for 2 month of rent will be 700 euros , with no extra taxes to pay. The money, I want to revive it monthly to my bank account, so I hope it will be no problem for you to wire the money to my bank account. The apartment is ready for you, you will need only to receive the keys and the contract to check it, and see if you like it.
Obviously we need a way to complete this deal, that will allow us to make sure we receive what we are after. In order of that I have found a way for us to complete the deal safely and fast, and in this way you will receive the Keys in less than 2 days, if you move fast as well. The solution is provided by a company called TNT which is similar to FedEx, DHL or UPS, which will handle both payment and delivery of the Keys.
I have found a procedure that will allow you to pay for the rent of the apt only after you will receive the keys of it and through this way you will see it and decide if you will stay in the apt or not before I receive my payment. Please click on the link bellow to the TNT website to see how we can complete the deal safely and fast directly from the website of the
company where the procedure is explained: http://www.tnt.com/express/en_gb/site/home/services/express_delivery.html
Let me know if you are interested please because I really need to take care of this matter."
I want to inform you that TNT will hold the money until you will confirm to them that you like the apt and keep the keys. If you don't like it, you only have to return the keys to them after they will refund the money to you and they will deliver the keys back to me on my expense.
I will need to inform you the steps about how this service works and how we can make it happen. You will only have to deposit to TNT Service for 2 month of rent 700 euro so they can proceed with the shipping, and you can receive the keys and the contract.
Like I said, I will pay for a 2 days delivery so you will receive the Keys and the contract signed by me right away. I will explain to you step by step how this will work:
To start this transaction i will need to know your full shipping information, full name, full shipping address to proceed with this deal .
I go to the TNT Office and leave the Keys and the contract in your name as the intended receiver.
TNT will check the envelope to see if everything is OK with it and also the legal papers that will come along with the Keys.
TNT will send you a delivery notification to let you know they have the Keys and the papers in their custody, in which you will be told that they have the Keys and that they checked it.
At this point you will have to go to a WesternUnion Agent Location and make a money transfer deposit on the TNT agent name assigned with this transaction for the amount we agreed, the total amount you shall deposit is for two months of rent.
After you make the deposit you will have to send the infos about the money deposit to TNT (Reference Number, sender's name and address)
TNT will verify the payment informations and if everything is in order they will deliver the Keys and the contract to you .
After you receive the package, You will go and check the apt and in 2 days you must contact them and tell them if you keep the apt or not, if everything is in order you will instruct TNT to release the funds to me.
If you don't like the apt they will send your money back and you will send them the keys and the contract to them to return the package back to me on my expense.I will pay TNT Service for the shipping and you will pay WesternUnion for the Money Transfer fees.Now i must know for sure if you agree because here are a lot of peoples interested to have this apartment rented and i want to know for sure what i must tell them. If you agree what i suggested i will tell them that my apartment is already rented and i will keep it for you. If you agree then i must have all the shipping details so i will be able to make all the arrangements for the TNT delivery.Thank you for your interest and wait news from you."
"I just came back from the TNT office. I already finished all the arrangements for the delivery of keys to the address you gave me in your last email. I remind you to complete and confirm the western union money transfer to TNT as soon as you receive the delivery notification so we can avoid the possible extra charges for any delays. You will have the details of the TNT cashier(you need for money transfer) in the delivery notification.
I will wait your reply as soon as you have done this.
P.S Please take care of the apartment !"
Because the notification from TNT looked a bit fabricated and because I was not so sure about it all anyway, i checked out by google. And found the earlier report on a similar case and to my surprise, the texts were practically the same.
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