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Complaint Review: Kim Flowers JRP Reno

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  • Submitted: Tue, April 01, 2008
  • Updated: Tue, May 20, 2008

  • Reported By:Reno Nevada
Kim Flowers JRP Reno
9490 Gateway Drive Ste 110 Reno, Nevada U.S.A.

Kim Flowers JRP Reno John Robert Powers Reno Hurt & Ripped Off A Lot Of People ~ Employees Included! ~ Reno Nevada

*Author of original report: Just an update!

*Consumer Suggestion: I also used to work for JRP Reno as the Assistant for the Promotional Director!! Hurt terribly.. I had a full time job!! Here's how to contact me!!!

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: I am an Ex-Employee of the Company Reported

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While I am one of the few who managed to get out with the shirt on my back, there were so many that did not. What happened to these people was mean, pre-planned, and hurtful. Kim Flowers who owned 2 John Robert Powers franchises cajoled so many people to increase their contracts to long term contracts (3-5 years) and lifetime memberships at the average cost of 3 to 7 thousand dollars each. Without warning, the doors were locked, the phones were turned off, the contracts were (obviously) unfulfilled, reputations were harmed, and people were left asking themselves, "What can I do?" This happened to the employees as well.

While memberships were upped and extended, her employees' paychecks were bouncing. This in turn caused a ripple effect; causing them to bounce their rent checks, power and phone payments, car payments, and the list goes on.

My assertion that this was pre-planned is because of the events leading up to the closure, 20 years of business experience, and experience salvaging a business that was close to a million dollars in debt. Believe me, when there is a cash flow crisis, it is months in the making. Doors are simply not shut overnight. A majority of creditors are willing to work out something with the debtors in an effort to salvage what they can before any plug is pulled. I was told by some of the teachers that their paychecks had bounced on a number of occasions before. Many months before. When they saw the memberships increase, they were under the guise that everything was picking up and the financial woes were done. Little did they know that the money made was being funneled to Vegas to start a new facility (owned by Ms. Flowers) that was going into direct competition with JRP. Pre-planned and unethical to boot. This is so wrong!

Poor accounting and bad management trashed the reputation of the teachers and the JRP franchise as a whole. The people who taught there (JRP Reno specifically) were there because they loved doing what they were doing. For most, it was a part time job, but for others, it was full time and they were hurt the most.

The John Robert Powers school is a great concept that has work well and stood the test of time. The whole one-stop shopping idea is what appealed to me the most. In my community, there simply wasn't a place where dance, voice, improve, acting, poise and image was offered on a consistent basis. All we had available was soccer. Let's face it~ not every kid (or parent) gets turned on by soccer.

We didn't sign up because we were convinced our kids were incredibly talented; we weren't pimping our kids for stardom. We went because it was something that everyone benefitted from. The kids enjoyed their classes, their friends, showcasing what they learned, and we enjoyed a lunch date while knowing the kids were in a good place. Now it is all ruined.

As I understand, there is a class action lawsuit in the works, which is in order. Unless of course the owner simply honors the contracts, or refunds the money. Will either one happen? Not likely. The Vegas victims have more recourse that the Reno victims. By virtue of location, they can go to the new Kim Flowers Talent Development Agency and demand that their contracts be filled through the new facility. What are the people in Reno supposed to do? What is their recourse? I have suggested to as many people as I could to contact their teachers to see if they could get something going privately, but that doesn't necessarily work well for those who entered into lifetime contracts. The teachers need to get paid too.

Kim Flowers, if you're reading this, or if anyone affiliated with Kim Flowers is reading this, I encourage you to do the right thing. If you do nothing, you are further trashing your reputation. The dust will eventually settle, but the money that you STOLE from these people will eat at you like a nasty sore. The Bible states that deeds, good or bad, are paid in kind, tenfold. I do not know the exact amount of money that was swindled from these people, but I'm sure your accountant can provide you with the numbers. Multiply it by TEN, and then add more for the deliberate, pre-planned aspect of this deed. That is a lot of money and a lot of karma. I wouldn't want that kind of thing hanging over my head. Somehow, I don't think you do either.

Reno poodle
Reno, Nevada
U.S.A.

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 04/01/2008 05:47 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Kim-Flowers-JRP-Reno/Reno-Nevada-89521/Kim-Flowers-JRP-Reno-John-Robert-Powers-Reno-Hurt-Ripped-Off-A-Lot-Of-People-Employees-322945. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 Author of original report

Just an update!

AUTHOR: Salvador - (U.S.A.)

This is just an update. As you read in the information I left a while back I was uncertain as to who said what about the ex-prmotional director either being fired or quitting.

It is clear to me now that the promitional director did quit, because of the way she was treated by Justine and the way that Kim Flowers reduced her pay and many other things! I was confused about it at first, because Justine was saying one thing... then something else was being said at another place.

But it's clear now that the promotional director was not fired and she did quit due to the way she was treated! Just though I'd clarify that for everyone!

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I also used to work for JRP Reno as the Assistant for the Promotional Director!! Hurt terribly.. I had a full time job!! Here's how to contact me!!!

AUTHOR: Salvador - (U.S.A.)

Hello! I read that you were stopped in the Meadowood mall. It's very interesting actually.. because I'm the staff that would work in the Meadowood mall with alot of other great people. Maybe it was even me who stopped you to invite you and your son in!

Please understand this.. if things weren't being run "legit", so to speak, please don't think that we from the promotional department were the bad guys. As a matter of fact.. I was the assistant for the Promotional Director, Karen Cottey.

I also want to mention to you that the promotional department there wasn't treated very fairly! Not only by the main person in the office... but by the owners, because whenever we wanted to mention something to them they'd ignore us and would allow the negative things there to continue.

One of the girls that worked there, Sierra, actually quit do to moral issues! She told me and the promotional director that the director of operations, Justine, had suggested to her to head into prohibited areas in the special events to get leads. And those were her exact words- "moral issues"!

Now I'm not completely sure asto how the following happened.. but the promotional department was going to start a pretty big promotional project for the "Almost Famous" magazine.

Well... the promotional director was upset because the owners out of nowhere reduced her pay and mysteriously very little bonuses were appearing on her paycheck. When the promotional director brought it up to the owners and Justine she basically got fired!

Now.. I said I wasn't completely sure what happened, because Justine told me something totally different.... she told me that Karen was upset about something (wouldn't tell me what, though) and she asked her not to appear to work that day and that Karen said she quit. But then again.. on the other side of the tortilla the promotional director said she did NOT quit.. she was fired for confronting them about the unexpected reduced salary!

Another thing... I felt somewhat horrased.. I do not know who could've sent out so many people to spy on me.. but people were telling Justine all these bunch of false allegations about me and the rest of the promotional staff!

Basically some people (actually many random people) would simply walk by the kiosk at the mall and run to Justine and accused us of not working. Which was outrageous... because that went on for over 4 months.

Had I not been working and not getting them the leads.. then why would they have allowed me to stay for over 6 months?? Then someone in the office there had a problem with me.. simply because of the fact that I was getting "too many" hispanic leads!! I won't mention her name.. because I don't want to make it seems as if I were accusing her of being racist.. but when you think about it...

So when I finally had it.. something really bad happened.. a really bad experience... not only that.. but I had it with the lies of Justine.. because at first she had promised all these bunch of things in the pre-employment process and promised bonuses for getting a certain amount of leads in certain events! Well ofcourse.. she lied to me in the pre-employment process and about the bounuses.

And there I was like an idiot getting over 100 leads in an event and not seeing the promised bonus!! The at the end.. I called in to quit because of my bad experience and what I just explained to you.. I gave a 1 month's notice.. but ironically the owners decided to "let me go"!!

I could go on about this.. but you know what.. talk is cheap!!! And I spoke with the Pr. of the franchise and he wants to get the place reopened and bring in the people that had previously paid to finish their training and keep going to the auditions.

So the only way that you can get a hold of me is to go to craigslist (Reno/Tahoe area) and under jobs.. almost all the way to the bottom look for the subject "TV/FILM/VIDEO". Get in there and look for the listing with the title in regards to the JRP Reno location and Kim Flowers. Reply to the posting and I will help you out. I have the numbers to call and people to speak with about getting what you've paid for back!!

And as for the employee by the name of "Veneath" or something like that... I never heard of a Veneath.. I think you're Kristen or Nicole.. but speak up and give your real name.. because if you received threats and have them saved.. look for the listing on Craigslist aswell and contact me.. I promise I'll be the only one with your information and will pass it down to the right person who is fighting Kim Flowers!!
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AUTHOR: Vaethn - (U.S.A.)

Please understand first of all that if any of this does not make sense particularly to you it is because I am trying to respond to everyone at once in regards to JRP Reno. I worked at the JRP in Reno for three years and it had been there for a total of 7 years; therefore, it is not true that the company was here one day and gone the next. I feel very sad and unfortunate for the kids and the parents who had recently signed with JRP or had upgraded as they were hurt the most. One thing that everyone must understand is that John Robert Powers' are franchises and are not owned by the same people. I do have some sense of peace knowing that there are a lot of people that did benefit form the training at JRP. The coaches and the staff there, including me, loved each and every one of those kids. The teachers were phenomenal and well experienced in the entertainment industry. They did an amazing job with our students and some people will forever be grateful not only for their opportunity to work in the industry (as some do) but also for the self esteem and life skills that so many people acquired from the Reno coaches. Each and every one of us that worked in Reno fulfilled our obligations as far as honoring contracts, arranging meetings with agencies/casting directors, and educating students. Although it may sound as if I am defending what Kim Flowers and Stephanie Pegues have done, I am not! I just want everyone to understand that we did everything that we could and we were lied to just like all of you. The owners of our company lived in Las Vegas. Kim only part owned the company and if these people do eventually get sued, I want everyone to know that Stephanie Pegues (Kim's sister) was the other owner. The one that got to stay under the radar. The one who paid us our "bad" checks late every two weeks. The one who changed her number and disconnected our phones. The one who was in charge of refunds. I think that Kim is definitely responsible because it was her business but I know for a fact that Stephanie was at fault just as much if not more than Kim Flowers. I am almost afraid to post this because Ms. Pegues was threatening us in the end. She refused to pay everyone their last paychecks, she wrote harassing emails in regards to us and our family members, and she threatened to close the business if we did not resume making sales. We had stopped selling contracts because we were told that we were going to train all of our current students and not accept anyone else until things had gotten better. For those of you who are looking to file a class action suit, I am already in touch with a group of people that are doing so. If you'd like to contact me, I am unsure as to how to exchange information privately i.e. phone, email etc....but if I receive any replies to this, I will find a way. Take Care Everyone! I hope to hear back from you:)
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