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Complaint Review: Kim Folker of Folkner Danes

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  • Submitted: Thu, January 24, 2013
  • Updated: Thu, January 24, 2013

  • Reported By: Royal Danes — Springfield Ohio United States of America
Kim Folker of Folkner Danes
Checotah, Oklahoma United States of America

Kim Folker of Folkner Danes Facebook names- Friends of Folkner Danes, Kimberly Folkner, CRAZY WOMAN makes demands on a dog that is HEALTHY with NO HEALTH CONCERNS Checotah, Oklahoma

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Please read what this woman is all about, how she talks to other people. how she makes demands...stoops lower than low, and how she calls her poor dog garbage!!!  What kind of woman is this????   Please note I will be attaching the signature of Kimberly Folkner on my contract where ABOVE her Signature it says: 

I fully understand and agree to the terms on this sale agreement and health guarantee and fully agree to all the above terms by signing this contract!!!  I also understand that a no time will there be a CASH refund for ANY reason!!!  

Now read what I was trying to do for her, the offers that I made that I didn't have to make out of the kindness of my heart, and what she in turn did to me and how childish she is.   She had the nerve to create a rip off report on me because I would not hand her 2000.00 cash or a puppy replacement for a dog that she states over and over and over that IS HEALTHY. [continued below]....
.....  I made her offers, and clearly she did not want to take either of them.  The offers are plain as day.  Any person with common sense could understand them.   No person in there right mind would have even dealt with this crazy woman with how she came at me, but I am a person who is fair, honest, and kind.  I was trying to help.  Well she messed with the wrong person.  She took my kindness as stupidity or for the fact that she could bully me.  Boy was she mislead by her little pea brain!  Please take note of her Grammar!!!  This woman cannot spell if her life depended on it.  

Please type in Sara Foss on rip off report to see the horrid posts that she made about me, and is hiding not even using her REAL NAME.  She is a coward as well!!!   

You may view my full contract at www.royaldanes.net under contract/guarantee

In this entire event I have been professional and have not hid any information what so ever.  Kim Folkner on the other hand tried to deceive me and spread malicious lies about me.  Not anymore, I am posting all for the internet world to see!  Please avoid this woman at all costs unless you want the wrath of her if you don't give her EXACTLY what she wants even though she is in the wrong!  Please google Kimberly Folkner or Folkner Danes to also view how she treats her puppy people.  Please do your research on this breeder before you end up like many others have!!!  Most have been afraid of her and bullied so she tries to continue to keep doing so.  Not happening with me!  Sorry Kimmy!   

Ok, so I'm fed up with this woman and would like EVERYONE to see what this woman is really about. I have 2 pups that have come back from 1 line with wobblers and one has wobblers and mild HD. They are both just 1yr old. I did not create the line. It was a line I thought was amazing and was lied to greatly and now myself and my poor puppy people/puppies are paying for it. I'm so upset and saddened by it, but I eliminated the line completely and I'm making it right by those that have actual issues. Please read what this woman is wanting from me and how she has treated me when I have been nothing but kind and fair to her ESPECIALLY when her dog does NOT have ANY ISSUES!! I have changed the name's of 2 people and 1 dogs name in this and that is it, I don't want to include them in this, but I would like EVERYONE to know what kind of a person Kim Folkner from Folkner Danes really is. I'm sorry if you are friends with them, I would have a hard time with any of my friends if they could treat someone like this.... and I'm not the first! I'm just the first to stand up to her and to voice this! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!

Folkner Danes
I talked to Erin about Pandora having HD, and possable wooblers, has any of the other siblings from her litter or any other litters had any problems?. With what you've told me and everyone about the lines and with her dog having gentic problems. Diamond does not need to be bred. Where do you and I go from here?. I stopped communication this summer as you never called me back like you said you would. I've always made pic's public so you can view and here is another recent pic of her, she is 1yrs old today. I called and left you a message, please call me 918-843-1889 or email back either or is fine.
December 26, 2012
4:29pm
Sara Foss
I'm in bed sick with a fever, so I won't be calling today.
I never called you back???? That's a bold faced lie Kim. I have our texts from the last day we spoke. You called me a bitch.
Where do we go from here??? Does diamond have hip issues or wobblers? Has she been xrayed?
I told you last time you wanted to place her because of the line issues and VWD that I would replace her with a Mena pup...you didn't want a pup... I even offered to split the shipping with you on getting diamond back and the puppy to you, I would spay her, place her and send you the money.....you said no, you didn't want another pup...offered you Mena...you didn't want her bc she wasn't proven....you stopped talking to me after I told you I wouldn't approve you selling diamond to a full AKC home...but to a pet home only. Because if YOU weren't comfortable breeding her then it was not ok selling her to a breeding home...you called me a bitch, deleted me from Facebook and stopped talking to me. So it wasn't because I didn't call you back.
X-ray diamond and then we will go from there, If she has issues.
I'm not the one that screwed the line up, I was fed a bunch of lines and paid a ton of money that I am now out because of someone else's lines...I've done my part and gotten rid of the line. Now I'm doing my part taking care of Erin n pandora because she has had the X-rays done.
There are no others with issues from pandora's litter but there is a male from ema x Hans litter with wobblers. (ema is kaisers full sister)....there was another claiming HD but I just found out she had tick fever and never had the hip X-rays done...she is going to do X-rays in a month once the tick fever is gone...bc tick fever affects joints and will make them walk funny and limp..ESP the rear.
So what this boils down to is I tried to replace diamond once for you already when she didn't have any issues...you declined. Im not replacing a dog that is fine. If you X-ray her and there's issues...then we will go from there. This is NOT me being a bitch. This is me being honest and I've already tried once and you weren't happy with any of my offers which were all more than fair ESP for a pup that had no issues.
You have breeched the contract as well in a couple ways and one of them was feeding her diamond puppy food. My contract states they are to NEVER be fed puppy food. I'll be willing to over look these things IF and ONLY IF diamond actually has an issue with HD or wobblers. Please contact me again once she has had X-rays and we will move forward.
4:31pm
Folkner Danes
Never call me a lier I said I was not trying to be a b*tch you said you will call me back since you and your husband was fishing and enjoying your time together so dont blow smoke up my a**! You dont think me and Erin talk?
Just you know I am selling Diamond! I have text saying I have permission, you knew these dogs were junk defects!
We have nothing further to talk about!
4:36pm
Sara Foss
You sell her on full AKC and I will see you in court! You are also supposed to send me the new owners information once you sell her...THAT was the agreement. You are an impossible woman to work with! I tried to replace diamond MONTHS ago but you weren't happy with ANYTHING. I told you I would call you back and we continued texting....you called me a *itch in text and to no longer contact you....so why would I have called you back????
Blowing smoke up your a**...really??? Grow up Kim! I told you to X-ray diamond and I would replace her if there is something wrong.
4:37pm
Sara Foss
Funny you call diamond junk but you were telling everyone else how excited you were to breed her to Joker, even have a waiting list. Now piper has issues and there junk.
4:41pm
Folkner Danes
See me in court! I bought the POS on full AKC I can do as I please but un like you I wont sell shit dogs!. How about this take me to court maybe I should sue you for selling me a junk dog, knowing of health issue. You told Erin that "If Kim didnt hate me I would tell her about Kaisers pups from other litters with HD and wobblers and give her 2k back or a pup from Mena. HAHA! If I bred that pos and had defects I would sue you for all the shit dogs that was produced!!!
4:42pm
Folkner Danes
i had a list while back have NOT advertised upcoming pups since I was unsure about the dog. I should have gotten rid of her months ago.
4:44pm
Folkner Danes
I can do as I please! She is mine to do so. I was giving your a courtsy email. With options. I will NOT breed a dog that has a defective sister I amd not going to sink more money into Diamond for xrays, to see if she has a issue. She may not but can produce it I am not risking it. I've not once bad mouth you, even though I got a reason to.
4:45pm
Folkner Danes
I am not claming issues on her other than she is the most stupidest dog I've ever owned! If I do xrays you want to refund not only my 2K but my medical cost I shed out on the VWD, and xrays to see if she has issues?
4:46pm
Sara Foss
That's a bold face f**king LIE I did NOT say I'd give your 2k back. I said I if Kim didn't have such an issue with me and deny every option I've given her I'd ask her to send diamond back and I'd let her have a Mena puppy.
You have NO OK to sell her with full AKC!
4:47pm
Folkner Danes
Put yourself in my shoes! Oh wait guess you've been in my shoes but yet you sold 2 b*tches from Drift wood Danes on Full AKC but yet the lines are defective sh*t does right, knowing Angel wants her pups and dogs back not for resale. seriously.
Well I have all rights to sell Diamond, give her away! at my discrestion!
I am not asking your permission! Simple get off your high horse! I am not one of them other bitch breeders you think you can f**k with!
4:49pm
Sara Foss
I told you that it was an oops line bred litter...you didn't care then
No breeder refunds the money and vet bills Kim. You know that as a breeder. I will gladly replace her and pay the shipping on the pup if she has HD or wobblers
4:49pm
Folkner Danes
I dont want another dog from you if it was no other option it would be sold! I want no ties to the lines nor you.
4:49pm
Sara Foss
I had permission in several emails from Angel stating I could sell the dogs.
No you don't have rights at your descretion...you signed a contract!
4:49pm
Folkner Danes
Yes I am not upset about an oppps litter you know that
I got text saying you have permission
Go ahead sue me!!! I will win and turn around and sue you! I got a case! Go open one!
You telling me that no other Kaiser pups have HD or Wobblers???
4:51pm
Sara Foss
No you don't. Because my texts said TO A PET HOME ON SPAY ONLY....then the last text before you called me a b*tch says " I want diamond returned and I will spay her and place her or you may rehome her once proof of spay is sent to me"
4:51pm
Folkner Danes
Who in their right mind will buy this dog on Full AKC really!! I wont lie about the issues!
I want her to have a pet home
No you gave permission!!! then when I said she may go to a breeder friend you said Oh if she aint good for your program she shouldnt be sold on full I said to bad I have her on Full AKC
Take that to a judge
I never called you a *itch!
I got all text you wanna read?
If I called you one I would say yep I sure did. You need to grow up
4:53pm
Sara Foss
You don't have a case because you won't X-ray diamond Kim. You can't sue me for Erin's dog having an issue but your dog doesn't have an issue... send the texts, I have them already lol
4:53pm
Folkner Danes
As if you even care
you not asked about pics or how she is
I never said I have an issue
my dog dont have a issue that I know of!
4:53pm
Sara Foss
I haven't had to. There on fbook just as you said and I talked to Erin about her
4:54pm
Folkner Danes
I said I am selling her since Pandora has issues!, and the other pups from his other breedings.
Ya I am such a *itch I let pics be public so you can creep and btw Erin is not her owner! I could have left priviate!
4:57pm
Folkner Danes
I paid for a disease test I should NOT have paid for, and now you telling me to pay for xrays for a dog I am not breeding no dont think so. I can understand if she has issues. I am not claming issues I dont want to chance breeding her to Joker or any other stud and have issues with pups there is that problem, I am not willing to risk it.
4:58pm
Sara Foss
If you want a replacement pup....from a bitch that has been xrayed...X-rays are on my web page and I will take dad in and have his prelims done to show hips are fine bc he has amazing structure I will gladly do that to prove this litter is NOT like piper/diamond lines. Then spay diamond/place her like we originally discussed already spayed and I will gladly re place her. Or send her back, I will spay her and place her (send u the money as I stated originally)...and you can have a replacement pup. This whole time I said I'm not trying to be a b*tch...but you turned down EVERYTHING I offered you last time so what the hell could I have done?
4:59pm
Folkner Danes
I was going to place her in a pet home with a friend of my husbands for FREE!! as a inside pet only
5:00pm
Sara Foss
You didn't say that....you got pissed off and said IM SELLING HER
5:00pm
Folkner Danes
I was not selling her on Full AKC! I wouldnt do that especially what I was told by you, Erin and looking at poor Pandora. I am sure you didnt think in a million yr this would happen.
I am selling her! but not for $$ She is free but he pays for the spay which is $110.00
To me that free
5:01pm
Sara Foss
Fuck no I didn't and I'm crushed and I feel sooooo bad for Erin. I even told her I'd prefer diamond not be bred
5:01pm
Folkner Danes
I have nearly 3500 wrapped up in her if not more...
I am very sure you are I would to
My husband is at work and I text him
and we agreed that we can not breed Diamond
She is a petty girl! Everyone loves her
She's gotten much better about the peeing problem and ya still working on that.
5:03pm
Sara Foss
I completely understand Kim, but I cannot pay for all that and as a breeder you know that too. I have a bitch I paid 4500 for that I now have 6000 in...had she not gotten pregnant I'd be out even more. Look at all my dogs from well....you know who..I'm out a sh*t load of money there.
I'm trying my best with what I can do here Kim.
5:03pm
Folkner Danes
I took her to the state park where a lot of woods were she was so laid back like nothing fased her. Like a everyday natural walk for her
I know
Its hard! I look at it this way also Diamond could be bred this yr even 2 in a row thats between 20+ K lost ontop right and then starting all over it sucks!
I just want help! is all
5:05pm
Sara Foss
I agree. I had to do that too
5:05pm
Folkner Danes
I've had a bad run with Euros and it sucks
What do we do?
5:05pm
Sara Foss
I know how it feels and I told Erin the same thing. I hate it. I'm fed up with full euros
5:06pm
Folkner Danes
Ya its a pain
5:06pm
Sara Foss
If u send me proof of spay and your friend is going to take her and pay you for the spay I can give you a replacement from Mena x Vallant
5:08pm
Folkner Danes
Ok sounds good! I will tell my husband he said he thought Mike wanted a GD. I told him that he will have to post pics and keep you updated.
He has a weiner dog Sacue he dresses up LOL... He isnt gay just a dork
Either way I told my husband that the new owner has to keep in contact with Sara that was before you and I talked today!.
I check with the Vet when they can get her in. She has not had a heat yet
He's on both my FB's super sweet guy. Has a daughter his weiner dog go every where with him and he just loves Joker.
5:12pm
Sara Foss
I think we're both stubborn hard headed b*tches lol
5:12pm
Folkner Danes
LOL i agree!
5:12pm
Sara Foss
I know it's not right to breed diamond with the lines...and thank god only 2 pups went on full AKC
5:13pm
Folkner Danes
right. how are the other pups?
5:13pm
Sara Foss
Sounds like he would be awesome for her
One way down south in tx will not return calls or emails. I'm about to mail her a letter. The other female is awesome. The Harl/pie girl
The female Merle is in Chicago and she's great. She keeps me updated.
My friend has 2 ema pups and a kaiser x daisy pup and she said all 3 of hers are great.
5:16pm
Folkner Danes
thats good. Which pups had the issues from kaisers other litters
Some lines dont mix well, also.
5:16pm
Sara Foss
Hans the male I used with ema may have contributed to her pups as well...but linking it to kaiser n ema being related either way it doesn't look good
5:16pm
Folkner Danes
right
5:17pm
Sara Foss
Merle male at 8mo was diagnosed with wobblers...but she just called me last week. Waiting on there X-rays. They don't want a pup they just asked for 500 towards vet bill
Mantle pie female has Tick fever. Clearly that's not genetic...but vet said she had severe HD...I thought they did X-rays...nope nada....I researched tick fever and called my vet...it can cause inflammed joints and problems walking. So once tick fever is gone they will X-ray her
5:21pm
Folkner Danes
thats sad
now is that from Kaiser and who's liter?
I will send you pic's of Diamond if you want. I dont think she has and issues but her legs are wide set if that makes since
Not cow hawked
I had all plans to health test her before her 1st litter until today
6:45pm
Sara Foss
(pic of Vallant X Mena)
6:45pm
Sara Foss
In 11yrs....soon to be 12yrs I've only had issues with this line. It's beyond frustrating
6:56pm
Folkner Danes
I bet so. its crazy
how breeders breed dogs knowing this ya know
I mean you cant be the only one with issues ya know
beautiful parents
6:56pm
Sara Foss
It's crazy.
Exactly. And I'm not
6:58pm
Folkner Danes
I am sad to see the video of poor Pandora it broke my heart, I feel blessed Diamond isnt like that, and glad she is going to be placed as a pet only!
6:58pm
Sara Foss
Yeah it kills me. I hate this sh*t
A replacement can't fix what's happened to her. Which sucks the most
6:59pm
Folkner Danes
My husband is going to offer her to Mike, I've also placed her for adoption in my 2 groups and a few other friends of mine, showed interest. I told them they will need to sign a contract stating they will give you updates with pictures.
Exactally
6:59pm
Sara Foss
Ok great
7:01pm
Folkner Danes
I want you to know who they are and know where she went. I kinda would like a local home if possiable. But many friends of mine are in other states and are awesome, people most are one's who own pups from us
7:01pm
Sara Foss
So I'm giving Erin 2nd pol and you 3rd pol. I already have a deposit for 1st pol
7:01pm
Folkner Danes
ok
TY
7:01pm
Sara Foss
I trust ur judgement
Are u keeping pup or do u want me to sell it and send u the 2k?
7:21pm
Folkner Danes
Cash is fine
That way you can get more for your puppies. This will be a nice litter both parents are beautiful
8:01pm
Sara Foss
Ok I'll let u choose the pup to sell then
8:02pm
Folkner Danes
Oh ok. TY
10:38pm
Folkner Danes
I found Diamond a pet home with my friend Judi Smith. She will wont leave until Feb. I am getting her spayed in a couple weeks. She is friends with you on FB. I told her to keep you updated on pics and such. She will be in GREAT hands. Mike didnt get back to my husband before I told Judi.
10:39pm
Folkner Danes
I will get you Vet paper work that she's been spayed.
10:51pm
Sara Foss
Sounds great!
Thanks
10:52pm
Folkner Danes
Welcome! Glad it worked out. She is going to a wonderful home. She will fit right in.
10:52pm
Sara Foss
Me too and hopefully she doesn't get any of the issues pandora has
10:53pm
Folkner Danes
Me to
10:53pm
Sara Foss
I think I'm about done with full euros unless there health tested
10:53pm
Folkner Danes
I am health testing all of mine
Joker will be fully tested all over again in Jan.
he will be 2yrs on the 5th
10:53pm
Sara Foss
We are starting after this litter. The full run down
10:54pm
Folkner Danes
Good idea
I am including VWD in mine too
be on the safe side
I got a 18mo bitch who has not had a heat yet and waiting for her to bleed and fully test her
I've done her hips but not everything yet
10:56pm
Sara Foss
Yep were doing vWD also since its becoming more common in the Harl lines of Danes
10:56pm
Folkner Danes
on her
10:56pm
Folkner Danes
I figure do it all and get it done
That way we can fill better about breeding the parents I've never had any issues with my Americans.
10:57pm
Sara Foss
What color?
10:57pm
Folkner Danes
Merle mantle
She does have blue in her 6th gen
10:58pm
Sara Foss
Yep. I'm doing hips, elbows and patellas while there under (vet doesnt change extra...just have to pay the extra OFA fees)
I haven't either till I went euro
10:58pm
Folkner Danes
sounds like a plan
Diamond got along with all the dogs too never a issue. We have doing good with no fights and *itchy , bitches
But the home she is going to has a black rescue dane, husky mix and a lil dog to play with
11:00pm
Sara Foss
I have 1 bitchy bitch but she's only a b*tch when in heat
That's great
December 28, 2012
8:27pm
Sara Foss
Hey are u talking about me in this post? Bc I never have called u a BYB.
Well if I was a byb why am I taking a massive loss on a pup who is healthy but has HD and wobblers in her lines, due to be spayed in 2wks and going to be a beloved pet? I could have said oh she is healthy and breed her but NO I decided NOT to breed her and do whats right. But yet they dont know that. I told her I am not a BYB I am a FYB (Front Yard Breeder) get that right haha.
8:46pm
Folkner Danes
No not you
8:47pm
Sara Foss
Ok
8:48pm
Folkner Danes
Had some woman say to Erin i am a byb and Joker is crap i sent her a lovely message. I said if i was a byb i would breed Diamond and not give 2 shits
8:48pm
Sara Foss
Ugh. Hate ppl like that
8:49pm
Folkner Danes
Me to
She sent me and Erin a friend request and cunt talks shit and not know me or her.
Her dane looked like a blk lab
Guess this show breeder who hides behind her dogs name was talking sh*ts. Green Bean is the name
8:52pm
Sara Foss
Oooooooh I've heard of them.
8:52pm
Folkner Danes
They need a punch in the c*ck sucker
1:53pm
Folkner Danes
Home fell threw for Diamond. I will let you know when she finds a home and with whom.
2:28pm
Folkner Danes
Can you send me a contract stating I get 3rd pick or $2000 option from Full Euro litter once you have proof Diamond is Spayed please. Thank you! I am making her appt. Monday will let you know the date.
3:15pm
Sara Foss
Listen, I am replacing a dog that by contract does not meet the replacement criteria. She is healthy with no known issues. The line has issues, yes. But she does not. I am not doing a contract on a dog that I'm replacing that I really don't have to replace.
There is no guarantee the dog can be bred and the contract states that. The guarantee is that the dog is healthy...and thus far diamond is and youve said she is. I am being courteous enough replacing her as it is. I am not doing a contract.
3:21pm
Folkner Danes
So I am going on your word you will give me 2,000.00 once you recieve Vet documention she is spayed?
3:21pm
Sara Foss
Yes.
3:23pm
Folkner Danes
Ok I will take your word. I will let you know who gets her
3:24pm
Sara Foss
Ok. My word is as good as a contract
Thursday
3:26pm
Folkner Danes
I have 2 homes set up for Diamond I am waiting on the 1st home to give me a yes or no today. I cant get her spayed till mid this mo she wont go anywhere till then I will scan the Vet paper work to you. And let you know who will be owning her. 1st choice is a guy who was gonna buy a pup from me but is considering Diamond, the 2nd is a family who already owns a male from us both GREAT homes but gave home #1 till today to think it over to be 100%.
3:28pm
Sara Foss
Sounds great
2 pups so far from Mena. Harl male and merlequin male
3:29pm
Folkner Danes
Home #1 is in TX, and #2 is 3hrs from me 
Cool!
How many are you expecting from her
3:29pm
Sara Foss
At least 7 from ultrasound
3:30pm
Folkner Danes
Nice!
Good luck!
They will be very pretty pups
3:37pm
Sara Foss
Thanks
Friday
11:43pm
Folkner Danes
Hey thought I would let you know. Diamond has found a home in Amerillo TX. Will let you know when she is spayed. Hope Mena and pups are well, what did you end up getting? Whitney said she needed a c-section hope all went well. Have a good evening, chat later.
Saturday
2:38pm
Folkner Danes
I will give Jose your FB and email to send u updates. She will be leaving the end of Jan. a week after her spaying. Here is a new pic of her thought you might want to see it. Took this morning.
2:41pm
Folkner Danes
Saturday
9:09pm
Folkner Danes
Could you send me pup pics, I maybe interested in keeping the pup.
Whitney showed her's off to me she's a beauty
Today
12:45am
Sara Foss
She's beautiful. Sorry I've been extremely swamped with everything that has been going on. Csection... 2 litters... tube feeding the smaller weaker ones every 3hrs.. vet appt for check ups/dew claws...I haven't had time to sit down and message you back.
I was also waiting on a few calls back before I messaged you.
12:57am
Folkner Danes
Oh bet so goodness
1:28am
Sara Foss
I have spoke to my husband, my close friends (reputable dane breeders) and my attorney. I got a phone call from someone that knows Judi Smith. I was informed that you were selling diamond on a spay at 1500.00, PLUS talking about how you were getting 2000.00 from me so you were making 3500.00 and fucking me over, and laughing about it. That if I DIDN'T give you the money or a pup that you were going to put me up on rip off report. So, I had to contact my attorney and call a few other sources to confirm that the one person was not just talking hearsay. So, it's been confirmed. I am absolutely flabbergasted. I never in a million years thought someone could stoop so low in there life, and sit back and be LAUGHING about it!
I did NOT knowingly breed issues. I told you from the get go that this was a line breed litter that was an oops and never my intentions. You were 1000% fine with it. I did not find out about the issues with Kaiser until I decided to have him neutered. I immediately informed you of the Vwd diagnoses. I even offered to replace Diamond back then if she was sent back to me. You wanted to sell her on full AKC because you didn't feel comfortable breeding the lines... but was ok with someone else breeding them as long as you made your money back. You didn't want a pup or to send her back. So you stopped talking to me and chose to keep her. Once Pandora had an issue then you come to me again. Stating that Diamond is perfectly fine and healthy, yet calling her a junk defective piece of garbage. REFUSE to do xrays on her to see if there is anything wrong with her hips at all. There's NOTHING wrong with her that we know about, yet you demand a replacement or your money back and tell me you are selling her, even though on a return contract, you still didn't care.
I sold her on a full akc because at the time she was a happy healthy puppy and there wasn't an issue with the lines that was known. It is not my fault that the line has issues. I did not create the line. I bought dogs from the line that I thought were amazing and found out later that it was not. I took a HUGE loss on this line, am still out 1200 for 1 pup plus out money on the other 3 as well. It's the dog business, not everything is going to be a profit. You take the loss and move on.
I have been more than fair to you through the whole situation. You disrespected me, my breeding, my pups... calling my dogs garbage, when I offered you mena pup as replacement you said you wouldn't take another dog from me and wanted money. Now you are coming to me saying that you might want a puppy? You really think I would give you another dog to go through all of this again??? Lady you are out of your mind. You have breached your contract in several different ways already, have a dog that is NOT defective or has any known issues yet you make demands and then do this behind my back? For the love of God... what kind of person are you?
I gave you permission to rehome Diamond because I understand the concerns about not wanting to breed her because of the lines and the potential to create pups with issues. I understand that COMPLETELY, which is why I did that. You told me you were placing her for the cost of her SPAY... 120 something dollars. not SELLING HER FOR 1500.00!!! Seriously??? Did you not think that people talk and it would get back to me?
I gave my word that I would allow you to have 3rd pick or 2000.00, you chose to have the money... so you will NOT get a pick or a puppy again from me ever. I will however, honor my word and do the 2000.00 once puppies are 8-10wks and the money comes in from them leaving. However Diamond is to be returned TO ME PER THE CONTRACT. That means you are to pay for all shipping arrangements for her to get back here. OR you may go ahead and "SELL" her spayed for 1500 and I will give you 500.00 To make up the difference. I am NOT and will NOT be made a laughing s,tock and be screwed over for something that I was trying to make right in the first place because I felt bad. The only one that is getting a replacement pup is Erin because SHE HAS AN ISSUE AND DID THE VET WORK TO SHOW THAT. She is not having to send Pandora back because she loves her and does not want to give her up just because she has an issue, so I am completely 100% ok with that. She has kept me updated on everything with Pandora and her future and has been kind and amazing to work with. She has treated me with respect, she knows I didn't intentionally do this and she has a dog with an actual issue. You are casting Diamond out and she does NOT have an issue.
So there are your options 2000.00 once Diamond is back here (she can be spayed prior to coming or once she arrives...either way is fine and I have a home for her lined up that is paying the actual cost of the spay... 100.00...that is verifiable and you may check with them as well because I don't need to lie about it and screw someone over), or you may go ahead and sell her as you were doing for the 1500 PROOF OF SPAY IS MANDATORY and take the 500.00 balance. You will never receive another dog from me in this lifetime, so that is NOT an option. If you choose to continue to slander me, laugh about me behind my back and think that its ok, or post ANYTING negative about me in any form my attorney is ready to sue. These are the options, that is it. You are lucky to even get those because you do not have grounds for any of it, and any other person there word or not would have told you to go screw yourself with how you have come at me and the things you have done behind my back thinking you are getting one over on me.
I am a very kind hearted person and this most of all has hurt me because I was trying to help you out because I've been in your shoes and know how it feels to work for something and have to take a huge loss on it because of line issues. Well, you ruined that. You showed me what kind of a person you truly are.
If you respond back to me nasty in any way you will get absolutely NOTHING from me... word or not because as of right now you have no grounds for a replacement and my contract states NO CASH REFUNDS and it also states that i do NOT guarantee that your dog will be breedable or breeding quality once it is an adult, chooseing not to breed Diamond is a choice...one I understand, but still a choice. I was doing extremely right by you and this is how I got repayed, shame on me. You have no grounds to bash me, sue me or anything... I have done nothing to you but try to help. So take one of the options offered to you or don't take them at all. I just want this over with and to have you out of my life. I don't have room in my life for someone that treats others like this and thinks that it is ok. The options are presented and the choice is yours.
Sara Foss

Kim's response:
You know what Sara I wouldn't expect any less from you. I am unsure where your getting your so called info. But I do NOT find this horrible roller coster ride funny never had. If I wanted to put you on rip off report or blast you believe me I would have done it long ago!. You can not sue me for telling the truth. I said I was getting rid of Diamond never said I was giving her away for free, the only person I would consider for free was my husbands friend, not anyone else. I have all rights to sell my DOG who is healthy that I know of to anyone whome I feel that will give her a loving home the only agreement you and I have between ea other is you giving me 3rd pick or 2K cash which I chose the cash option, as you said once she is spayed I will refund you your money. Your word is good as the lines you breed, tanted. I can careless what you do, you can honor your agreement or not, I am out thousands of dollars whats a couple more. Diamond has found her home I will still send the spay doc to you since I am a woman of my word. No need to contact me any further.
Kimberly

My response:
See Kim that's where I laugh. I still kept my word. You can have your 2k, but diamond is to be sent back per the contract you signed...I think I need to send you a copy of it again with your signature on it. You are aware that it says texts/emails are NOT written proof for permission, that means in my actual hand writing. You don't want to send her back because your getting 1500 for her as it is. If you knew it wasn't immoral what you were doing you would have told me what you were selling her for. You knew it was wrong, that's why you flipped out on Erin accusing her when she wasn't the one who told me. You told several people who told people who told me. I talked to 4 people who confirmed it. They too thought it was BEYOND WRONG!! My word is tainted?? Really? I've bent over backwards to try and help you replace a dog that HAS NO ISSUES AND IS NOT DEFECTIVE...you repeat over and over that she is healthy and has no issues. After I find out what you are doing behind my back I should have told you to go to hell...no I didn't, still kept my word. You can have your money but your too busy being a stubborn ass on your high horse who thinks everything needs to go as you demand to just send diamond back. You don't give two shits about anyone else's feelings but your own and you certainly could careless about poor Diamond by the way you call her garbage and she's just a dollar sign to you. I'm sorry I ever met such a greedy woman. It's funny you want to talk shit about my lines, those weren't MY lines, I don't own them anymore...never will, and you wanted the puppy from Mena x Vallant...PLEASE READ ABOVE FOR YOUR COMMENT ON THAT. Is your memory that bad? You contradict yourself over and over Kim that you look absolutely stupid. This roller coaster you mentioned is not my doing, thank yourself for that...I didn't lie, I didn't make demands, I didn't disrespect you, and I didn't threaten. You did!! You need to stop coming at me all high and mighty, maybe if you actually realized where you are completely wrong you would get it, everyone else gets it. You've been given your options...that is that. So don't run your mouth and say I'm not giving you anything and your out a ton of money when you have options that you just won't take. That's your choice, and I think your an idiot for not taking one, because you STILL keep mentioning how much money you are out...well there's money for you if you honor the contract. Your word is the one that is tainted Kim. You honor no one else's contracts. You do as you please, bully people around, well guess what...I'm not riding your crazy roller coaster anymore. You will NOT bully me, I've already spoken to my attorney, you cannot do a thing. You've breached your contract, have not gotten written permission to rehome Diamond that is not in the form if text/email and you have slandered me. Yeah, I hear it all Kim, people love to talk about you because you've made soooo many enemies. There is a "We Hate Kim Folkner" group that someone tried to add me to. Come on and I'm the one doing people wrongly? Whatever Kim...take an option or don't. Either way I don't owe you anything and I have cause to sue, you have nothing. So keep running your mouth and pushing my buttons. I'm done being nice. Unless you are contacting me to make arrangements for diamond to come back or giving me the info of her new home, receipt of what they paid along with proof of spay for the 500 difference then I don't need to hear another word from you. Good day

More proof: 

THANK YOU to the person who sent this to me!!! Name has been removed to protect there privacy!! This was sent sometime last week

Our convo about Diamond. She pm'd me out of no where...?

6:46pm
Folkner Danes
Are you looking for a pet or breeder? If your looking for a family Pet I have Diamond available will be spayed prior to leaving my home. If your interested. She is 100% European 1yrs old house broken
Are you looking for a pet or breeder? If your looking for a family Pet I have Diamond available will be spayed prior to leaving my home. If your interested. She is 100% European 1yrs old house broken

7:43pm
What is her rehoming fee?

7:48pm
Folkner Danes
1500 w/ her spay cost
along with yrly shots, dewormed and vet checked from my vet
I am willing to drop her price by $200 help you with ground shipping, cost
That way your not out of a lot of money.
I've lost thousands of dallars on her whats a couple more hundred bucks.

7:52pm
Folkner Danes
She is sweet, loving and gets along with any pets and people. She is healthy, just not a fit for breeding. Its a sad situation dont like the idea of spaying her nor rehoming her but I have 2 retired and 1 more upcoming retiree and just Joker as my Stud and Aurora well heck she is almost 19mo never had a heat so who know's if she will be a mother ever. So for me to continue to breed I have to rehome her if I didnt have the 3 retriees I would keep her.

7:53pm
Aw Im sorry to hear she is not a breeder. Thats ashame because shes a beautiful girl! Im talking with a breeder right now about a litter of euros she is having. If she does not have what I am looking for I may consider it. I really would like to have a euro!
Oh and I just adore Joker! 

7:54pm
Folkner Danes
TY

7:54pm
Youre welcome!

7:54pm
Folkner Danes
I have many PM me about her
who is the breeder
if you dont mind me asking

7:55pm
Ok. I will probably end up getting one from this breeder. Shes 15mins away and has good prices. I wouldnt have to pay shipping. Her name is Bobbi Gentile

7:56pm
Folkner Danes
oh idk
good luck

7:56pm
Shes from NC where I live. Thanks! Good luck with Diamond!

7:56pm
Folkner Danes
remember you get what you pay for
hints is why I am in this perdictument

7:57pm
Oh they are still pricey lol. Just not as much as if I were to have one shipped lol. Im sorry to hear you are in that situation. I hope Aurora comes into heat for you as well!

7:57pm
Folkner Danes
Now I am out nearly 4K
not including food and etc.
Good luck

7:58pm
Im sorry I know thats got to feel awful! I hope you can make some back!

7:58pm
Folkner Danes
haha na will never make my money back

7:58pm
Well i hope at least some!

7:59pm
Folkner Danes
important thing is she gets a forever home

8:00pm
yes that is very important! shes beautiful and im sure you wont have a problem finding her one

8:00pm
Folkner Danes
no dont think I will

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