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Complaint Review: Kingsway Associates - KRT Financial Group

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  • Submitted: Sun, October 03, 2004
  • Updated: Thu, January 12, 2006

  • Reported By:Taunton Massachusetts
Kingsway Associates - KRT Financial Group
131 E. Main St Norman OK, Toronto Canada, Oklahoma Canada

Kingsway Associates KRT Financial Group rip off Mary Harrison of Toronto Canada Western Union & Norman Oklahoma

*Consumer Comment: THey are slick

*Author of original report: Still ripping off inocent people, Kingsway Corp is under another name, Stockman Financial Bank

*Consumer Suggestion: Help with Information on Kingsway

*Consumer Suggestion: Website was shut down

*Consumer Comment: New information on Kings Way from Trevor London

*Consumer Suggestion: Might have website closed down

*Consumer Comment: More Info On Kingsway Associates website

*Consumer Suggestion: Contacted Royal Canadian Mounted Police instructed to report phonebusters

*Consumer Suggestion: The radio station is based in CANADA!!!

*Consumer Comment: I have info about where they are

*Consumer Suggestion: More evidence to prove this company is a SCAM!!! these people are LIARS and THIEVES.

*Consumer Comment: Not located in Norman, OK

*Consumer Comment: Not located in Norman, OK

*Consumer Comment: Not located in Norman, OK

*Consumer Suggestion: Never send money by Western Union

*Author of original report: gone on there website to apply for a loan under someone else's name

*Author of original report: reported to my local police department

*Consumer Comment: Have you heard back since last post??

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A Mr Andrew Dunlop contacted me after I filled out a loan application. He told me I was approved for a $5000 loan, with a $700 insurance payment.

I sent the money to a Mary Harrison of Toronto Canada Western Union. She received the money the same day. I got in touch with Mr Dunlop on 9/27/04 and he told me he did not hear from her yet and that when he did, the money would be in my account within 48hrs.

Here it is 10/3/04 and no money. I reported him to the BBB and FBI, and the Internet Fraud Center.

Scot
Taunton, Massachusetts
U.S.A.

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 10/03/2004 03:25 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Kingsway-Associates-KRT-Financial-Group/Norman-OK-Toronto-Canada-Oklahoma/Kingsway-Associates-KRT-Financial-Group-rip-off-Mary-Harrison-of-Toronto-Canada-Western-Un-111248. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 Consumer Comment

THey are slick

AUTHOR: Sandra - (U.S.A.)

I too have had problems with these folks. They are slick and they will keep doing this until people realize that is just wrong to ask for money (fee) up front for a loan before providing the monies of a loan that you are approved for, the fee should be added into the loan. NEVER send money Western Union to anyone and do get in contact with that states District Attorney or State Attorney General Office. Get in touch with any Law Enforcement Arena that will listen. Give details, names and numbers.
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#2 Author of original report

Still ripping off inocent people, Kingsway Corp is under another name, Stockman Financial Bank

AUTHOR: Scot - (U.S.A.)

I have been checking back regularly and found out Kingsway Corp is under another name.... Stockman Financial Bank. They are doing the same thing. I just find it weird that all the information we have been providing these authority people and they are still able to scam people out of thousands of dollars. I have provided rip offs website and to read all these complaints, but it seems to me they just don't care. So we need to do something ourselves. If anyone has any suggestions PLEASE REPLY!
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#3 Consumer Suggestion

Help with Information on Kingsway

AUTHOR: Jamie - (Canada)

My name is Jamie. I live very close to Toronto, Ontario and am appalled and disgusted by what these SCAMERS are doing in Toronto to you fine people. If there is any information or anyway I can help please post as I am in Canada about 1 hour west of Toronto and might be able to locate a little more info for you. I would definitely advise contacting the Toronto Police as posted above. Ask for Det. Barry Elliott at 1-888-495-8501 and provide as much information as possible.

I will check back regularly to see if anyone posted and if I can be of some help. For your own information, I will be sending this information and all other info I can find on Kingsway Associates KRT Financial Group to my Member of Parliament and the Minister of Trade as too hopefully alert them as this activity is going on and it needs to be stopped. As in one article posted said, it stated that it would cost a measly 11 million dollars added to the 25 million currently allotted to have enough money to stop scammers in this country and to fix this issue. As our income based Gross National Product is over 1.2 trillion dollars. I hold the Canadian Government to blame as this is their mess, we shouldn't be allowing such blatant miss use of the trade system without avenues to deal with these issues swiftly and efficiently.
Just my opinion, but please post if I can help out. :p
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#4 Consumer Suggestion

Website was shut down

AUTHOR: Sharee - (U.S.A.)

Scot, the website was shut down. I reported to the website for the Toronto police hopefully everyone else is doing the same. The information that my dad gathered about the website and you contacting the provider has at least put them out of business from stealing from anyone else. Now we just have to make sure they don't start getting using another name so everyone reading file those reports ASAP. We are getting closer.
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#5 Consumer Comment

New information on Kings Way from Trevor London

AUTHOR: Norma - (U.S.A.)

I called a number on my caller ID (416-7777777)from Trevor London who I have dealt with regarding a loan with Kings Way. This is a number they are using which is the Star Newspaper. The newspaper is aware of this scam and gave me a number of a detective who is working on the case in Toronto, Det. Barry Elliott at 1-888-495-8501. I called that number and filed a report. It would help if others would also call and give them what information you have and also file reports. I really want to see these people put under the jail. I am so angry that I let myself be taken by such scum and put me in such a financial bind!
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#6 Consumer Suggestion

Might have website closed down

AUTHOR: Scot - (U.S.A.)

I contacted the host of there website and they replied to me today. They were unaware of any of this and this is what they wrote:

Dear Scot,

Thanks for notifying us about this. We have nothing to do with this
company
or their web-site. They have only been using our hosting services and
till
this day we have not received any communication of this sort until your
e-mail.

We are taking appropriate action by suspending the hosting account and
are
more than happy to help assist with any investigation that takes place.

I highly recommend contacting the Toronto Police with this matter and
see
what they suggest.

http://www.torontopolice.on.ca/fraud/

Best of luck with this,

Paul MacKenzie
Elehost Web Design Inc.
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#7 Consumer Comment

More Info On Kingsway Associates website

AUTHOR: Laura - (U.S.A.)

I had posted previously about the phonebusters
site which takes in info about fraud in Canada and distributes it to law enforcement. Our daughter who has also posted has been victimized for 1000.00 dollars in this little scam of kingsways. We are doing everthing in our power to help her. doing some searching for the domain name we found this info we hope can help. If nothing else maybe get this website taken down so that no one else can fall victim to their evil
ways. Found the following:

OpenSRS Whois Utility
Whois info for, kingswaycorp.com:
Registrant:
KINGSWAY ASSOCIATES
464 SPADINA RD
TORONTO, ONTARIO M5P 2W4
CA

Domain name: KINGSWAYCORP.COM

Administrative Contact:
DUNN, JACOB jacobdunn2004@yahoo.ca
464 SPADINA RD
TORONTO, ONTARIO M5P 2W4
CA
416-529-2931
Technical Contact:
Support, Tech techsupport@elehost.com
335 Bay St.
Suite 510
Toronto, ON M5H 2R3
CA
+1.4162036798 Fax: +1.4162036525



Registration Service Provider:
Elehost Web Design Inc., techsupport@elehost.com
416 203 6798
http://www.elehost.com
This company may be contacted for domain login/passwords,
DNS/Nameserver changes, and general domain support questions.


Registrar of Record: TUCOWS, INC.
Record last updated on 11-Jun-2004.
Record expires on 11-Jun-2005.
Record created on 11-Jun-2004.

Domain servers in listed order:
NS.ELEHOST.COM 209.82.34.250
NS1.ELEHOST.COM 209.82.34.251


Domain status:
ACTIVE
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#8 Consumer Suggestion

Contacted Royal Canadian Mounted Police instructed to report phonebusters

AUTHOR: Laura - (U.S.A.)

My daughter is Sharee,Who has also been victimized by Kingsway Associates. I have contacted the Constable of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police in Toronto.Information was given to contact PHONEBUSTERS.

Any information filed will be disturbed to law enforcement in Canada.Phonebusters has other links to other fraud sites specifically such as companies with advance fee loans.
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#9 Consumer Suggestion

The radio station is based in CANADA!!!

AUTHOR: Amy - (U.S.A.)

I know this was mentioned in the previous comment but I wanted to let everyone know that the radio station is 98.1 HFI and it is canada's first FM radio station. I checked it out on google. I do not know if this helps but it just adds fuel to the fire that this company is a RIPOFF and bunch of no good money stealers!!! These people need to be shut down and criminally charged for fraud, robbery and deceit!!! I hope no one else sends these no good SOB's any more money!!
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#10 Consumer Comment

I have info about where they are

AUTHOR: Sharee - (U.S.A.)

They are not in Oklahoma they are in Toronto, ON they have a raido station that plays while you are on hold I keep calling so I could hear the commericals. All the commericals advertised for Toronto also i dont live there so I cant really say how this can help but a RICHMOND HILLS TOYOTA was metioned on one commerical and a furniture store in downtown Toronto on ATLAK AVE or something to that affect. I told kingsway I knew the address they gave in Norman was fake and that was the address of a FIrst Fedility Bank and that bank has been notified of what they are doing with their address. When I told Kingsway they said they had sent my refund and that I was harassing them how funny is that? Anyway ever since they no longer answer the phones it goes straight to voice mail. Also after a trace was done on their email address it was traced back to Toronto as well. I was told by one of the few attourney generals I contacted that the FBI abd BBB were looking into this company so hopefully they will pay. I too lost $1000. Hopefulle some of you can use this info to help us get closer to finding out more as to where they are at exactly.
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#11 Consumer Suggestion

More evidence to prove this company is a SCAM!!! these people are LIARS and THIEVES.

AUTHOR: Amy - (U.S.A.)

This response is for all the readers out there that have been scammed by kingsway. I have been dealing with Dana Wells and just yesterday she called my cellphone and the number came up on my caller id as (646)536-9090, not her usual 1-888-225-3961 number. I called 411 and had them do a reverse trace and the number came up as a payphone in Manhattan, NY. Anyone who is on the verge of sending these thieves money please don't. As good as the deal may seem, these people are LIARS and THIEVES. They are not located in Oklahoma. These people need to be shut down right away. I am going to try to get in touch with the authorities in NY and see if that gets anywhere. These scumbags are using payphones and calling cards. These jerks probably run this scam right out of there apartments. I am urging anyone that reads this DO NOT GIVE ANY MORE MONEY TO THESE LOSERS!!!!!!!
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#12 Consumer Comment

Not located in Norman, OK

AUTHOR: A - (U.S.A.)

I have met someoe who has the same problem as all of us. She lives in OKlahoma, about 1 hour away from there. She went there and found 2 law firms and a bank that is NOT an affiliate of Kingsway. They are not in OK. They are located in Canada, not the United States. As of right now, I am sure they had gathered from our stories about 10-15,000 all together, not including people who havent claimed anything yet. 15,000 is considered grand larceny and if found they wil all receive hefty sentences. Everyone please post how much you lost so I can add it up and contact my local FBI agency and the Canadian government. Maybe we won't be able to get our money, but I'd feel a lot better if they got what they deserved. I lost $1,000.
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#13 Consumer Comment

Not located in Norman, OK

AUTHOR: A - (U.S.A.)

I have met someoe who has the same problem as all of us. She lives in OKlahoma, about 1 hour away from there. She went there and found 2 law firms and a bank that is NOT an affiliate of Kingsway. They are not in OK. They are located in Canada, not the United States. As of right now, I am sure they had gathered from our stories about 10-15,000 all together, not including people who havent claimed anything yet. 15,000 is considered grand larceny and if found they wil all receive hefty sentences. Everyone please post how much you lost so I can add it up and contact my local FBI agency and the Canadian government. Maybe we won't be able to get our money, but I'd feel a lot better if they got what they deserved. I lost $1,000.
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#14 Consumer Comment

Not located in Norman, OK

AUTHOR: A - (U.S.A.)

I have met someoe who has the same problem as all of us. She lives in OKlahoma, about 1 hour away from there. She went there and found 2 law firms and a bank that is NOT an affiliate of Kingsway. They are not in OK. They are located in Canada, not the United States. As of right now, I am sure they had gathered from our stories about 10-15,000 all together, not including people who havent claimed anything yet. 15,000 is considered grand larceny and if found they wil all receive hefty sentences. Everyone please post how much you lost so I can add it up and contact my local FBI agency and the Canadian government. Maybe we won't be able to get our money, but I'd feel a lot better if they got what they deserved. I lost $1,000.
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#15 Consumer Suggestion

Never send money by Western Union

AUTHOR: Larry - (U.S.A.)

I have seen several complaints about Kingsway all posted in the last few days. Each person claims that Kingsway is in Norman, Oklahoma, but none of them live there and cannot verify the street address. Not one of these complaints says that they actually visited Kingsway's offices. All communications were by telephone or email. Each person says they were advised that they would receive a loan but had to send an insurance payment in advance. And they always say the money was going to Canada. Finally, everyone admits sending money to these scammers by Western Union.



When you send money by Western Union, you have no idea who actually received it or where. Your money is gone without a trace.



Does it make sense to anyone to send money to someone whose location you cannot verify using a method that is virtually untraceable?



If someone insists on payment by Western Union you can be certain that it is a scam.
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#16 Author of original report

gone on there website to apply for a loan under someone else's name

AUTHOR: Scot - (U.S.A.)

I have gone on there website to apply for a loan under someone else's name and info. I am hoping that they will contact me soon. If they do I'm going to get as much info as possible and let the Internet Fraud Center know. And let Rip Off Report know as well. We need to do something ASAP.
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#17 Author of original report

reported to my local police department

AUTHOR: Scot - (U.S.A.)

No I haven't heard back from them at all. I keep sending emails to Mr Dunlop, but get no reply. I still see they have a website though. How can we get them to get rid of the web site? I have also reported to my local police department. I keep doing searches for that company or anyone affiliated with them, but I'm finding only company's that suggest them for loans. These websites don't have any contacts though. I email the internet fraud center to find out what else I can do. I also been doing searches on where I sent the money in Canada. The address is that of Toronto University. But that is as far as I got. But I'm not giving up, I'm still trying.
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#18 Consumer Comment

Have you heard back since last post??

AUTHOR: Amy - (U.S.A.)

Hi, I too have been dealing with kingsway and feel that they are nothing more than a bunch of scam artists. I just wanted to know if anything has changed in the last 3 days. Have you received the money or been able to get in touch with anyone?? If not, what actions are you going to take??
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