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Complaint Review: Leah Winikler, Harold Winkler

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  • Submitted: Sun, February 06, 2011
  • Updated: Thu, February 21, 2013

  • Reported By: Debbie Kern — Clear Lake Iowa USA
Leah Winikler, Harold Winkler
Hickory, North Carolina United States of America

Leah Winikler, Harold Winkler Desert Sun Golden Retrievers, Snowy Paws Golden Retrievers and more recently English Creme Goldens FRAUD, THIEF, FALSE ADVERTISING, ANIMAL ABUSE, LIAR, NASTY, RUDE AND VERY DISHONEST Hickory, North Carolina

*Author of original report: SEE AKC Documents already posted

*Consumer Comment: YOU ARE SO STUPID DEBBIE KERN

*Consumer Comment: DEBBIE KERN UP TO HER SAME OLD TRICKS AGAIN NEEDS TO BE PUT IN A MENTAL AWARD

*Author of original report: NEW NAME: IMPORT GOLDENS

*Author of original report: Correction

*General Comment: Insanity

*Consumer Comment: WHY BUY FROM DEBBIE KERN SHE IS PURE EVIL ACTUALLY THE DEVIL

*General Comment: All of the reports signed anonomous are Lea (Leah) Winkler...

*Consumer Comment: WHY BUY FROM DEBBIE KERN SHE IS PURE EVIL ACTUALLY THE DEVIL

*UPDATE Employee: WINKLERS ARE NOT ANYWHERE A PUPPY MILL THEY DONT EVEN OWN KENNELS 2 LITTERS A YEAR IS NOT A PUPPY MILL!!!

*Consumer Comment: WHY BUY FROM DEBBIE KERN SHE IS PURE EVIL THE DEVIL TOO

*General Comment: Lea responds the same way to a completely different breeder on a different board

*Consumer Suggestion: NO!!! NOT TRUE....NEVER once HAS THIS PERSON TOOK Anybody's DEPOSITS

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I have historically filed a report with Rip off but for some reason it is not now showing up.  Leah Winkler (aka Leanna Winkler, Lea Winkler) as well as her husband Harold Winkler and the most dishonest, nasty, rude individuals the dog world has to offer right now.  She bought a puppy from me, then forged my name to the AKC papers to get a full registration, created a false contract.  After buying and obtaining her puppy from me she started demanding I release her to a full registration - when I refused she would call me in the middle of the night - screaming and calling me every filthy name in the book and tell me she was beating the F___ out of the puppy.  She also sent me two e-mails telling me she was beating the puppy.  She then turned around and bred the girl at 13 months of age WITH NO CLEARANCES.  I got the AKC registration reversed before the puppies were born and she ended up lying to people and telling them she had AKC papers on the pups (which was a lie). [continued below]....
.....  She is nothing but a PUPPY MILL.  If you buy a puppy from her or worse yet if you sell a puppy to her - do some investigation or I assure you that you will be sorry.  I can give you numerous individuals to contact about her behavior - taking deposits on puppies and never shipping them - taking deposits and then when things turn ugly she won't return the deposits - she has warrants out for her arrest for Assault & Battery in Newport Beach, CA.  I can provide proof of everything contained in this report.  If you would like to see the documentation, contact me and I will be HAPPY to forward it to you.  BEWARE of these people - they are trouble for anyone dealing with them.  You can contact me at 641-357-8027 - Debbie - Showstopper-Goldens.  You can also e-mail me at (((REDACTED)))@yahoo.com.  I will be happy to discuss these individuals with anyone even thinking about buying a puppy from them or especially anyone she is trying to buy a puppy from.  Don't put your puppy through what I am afraid mine went through.  I can also supply you with her picture - which I have had confirmed is her via not only mug shots from arrest records but the Hickory, North Carolina police department have confirmed her identity.  She has operated under numerous kennel names - Desert Sun Goldens, Snowy Paws Goldens and her latest as of Feb. 2011 is English Creme Goldens.  Do yourself a favor and steer clear of this puppy mill.
 
 

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#1 Author of original report

SEE AKC Documents already posted

AUTHOR: Debbie Kern - ()

The AKC refersal on the dog that Leah Winkler got from me has already been scanned and is an attachment to the original report I filed on them.  Read it in black and white from AKC.  She forged my name, falsified documents and ABUSED the animal - I have e-mails she sent confirming she was abusing the dog.  Grow up Leah.  Now I see a report that she has died - that is hilarious - she is still alive and ripping people off.

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#2 Consumer Comment

YOU ARE SO STUPID DEBBIE KERN

AUTHOR: anonomous - ()

NO HAROLD IS NOT A PUPPY MILL DEBBIE KERN F'ED THEM WITH ALL HER LIES AND MADE UP STORIES AND HOW ARE THEY TO SELL ANY PUPPY WITH HER CRAP SHE GOES AROUND TELLING? LOOK AT THE WEBSITE, YA IT IS NOT UPDATED FOR ONE. TWO, LOOK AT THE AGES OF THE LITTER PUPS RIGHT THERE WILL TELL YOU ABOUT DEBBIE KERN AND WHAT SHE IS DOING AND ALWAYS UP TO. THREE, SHE NEEDS GOD IN HER LIFE NOT TO BE BASHING OTHERS.

WHAT IS SO FUNNY YOU SEE ALL THESE KENNEL WEBSITES THAT SAY AKC INSPECTED, WELL GUYS WHAT HAROLD HAS NEVER BEEN INSPECTED DOES THAT TELL YOU ANYTHING AT ALL?

AKC ONLY INSPECTS PUPPY MILL HOMES THAT HAVE MULTIPLE LITTERS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. NEVER ONCE HAVE THESE BREEDERS EVER BEEN INSPECTED CALL AKC AND ASK THEM YOURSELF.

OH DEBBIE KERN ALWAYS AT IT WITH TRYING TO REAM OTHERS. GO TO CHURCH GET YOUR LIFE RIGHT WITH GOD. YOU WILL NOT BE SEEING HIM ANYTIME IN ETERNITY ACTING LIKE THIS BEING SUCH A HEARTLESS VINDICTIVE HATTER TOWARDS OTHER BREEDERS DUE TO JEALOUSY.

HAROLD AND LEAH BOTH HAD CLOSE FAMILY MEMBERS PASS AWAY JUST RECENTLY AND DEBBIE KERN WAS STILL EMAILING THEM DIRECTLY OF ALL KIND S OF STUFF WHILE THEY WERE GOING THROUGH MOURNING OF THE LOSS OF THEIR LOVED ONES AND DEBBIE WOULD NOT STOP. I AM TELLING YOU DEBBIE KERN IS THE MOST HATED PERSON IN USA FOR DOING WHAT ALL SHE IS DOING TO INNOSCENT OTHERS THAT HAVE NEVER DONE ANYTHING TO HER. ACTUALLY HAROLD AND LEAH DONT EVEN KNOW HER NOR EVER BOUGHT A DOG FROM HER EVER IN HER LIFETIME. DEBBIE IS REALLY LOSING IT!
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#3 Consumer Comment

DEBBIE KERN UP TO HER SAME OLD TRICKS AGAIN NEEDS TO BE PUT IN A MENTAL AWARD

AUTHOR: anonomous - ()

Makes up whatever stories that she wants to believe for she does not know anything for the truth of the matter. She is going to Hell that is for sure being it is pretty clearly all over the internet what she does to others. Anybody that can do all this to any such person and not have any conscientious at all of it is PURELY THE DEVIL HERSELF. DEBBIE KERN YOU ARE IN FACT THE DEVIL such a very evil person you are hope you burn in hell for all your actions. I am so glad I did not buy from you and those longed nosed ugly american cancer in the line dogs too that you have.
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#4 Author of original report

NEW NAME: IMPORT GOLDENS

AUTHOR: Debbie Kern - (USA)

Leah Winkler is now operating under another name - she is now North Carolina Import Goldens.  I got a letter today from her, or probably someone in her family, because they could spell (partially) and didn't use numerous curse words and tell me I was going to burn in hell. 

If you are buying a puppy from or selling a dog to North Carolina Important Goldens you should read all about Leah Winkler in the previous reports filed with this and other sites.  Copies of the forged AKC papers are available for viewing as well as a copy of the contract she originally signed and the one she "doctored" up.  To this date I do not know what she has done with the precious puppy she purchased from me.  The last I heard she informed me she was abusing her daily - I can back that up with copies of the e-mails she sent me telling me she was beating the "sh.." out of her daily.

BUYER BEWARE....her website shows she has three or four litters of puppies at this point in time - but she isn't a puppy mill is she??  You decide.  Ask her to PROVE when the last time she had a dog in the show ring.  Ask for PROOF - not just her word.  Her word isn't worth anything.  She lied to me when she was purchasing a puppy from me.  AKC went so far as to reverse the registration on the female I sold her (fortunately before the puppies were born).  She bred her under age, without clearances and in breach of the contract. 

Also ask Leah Winkler about her criminal background.  There is plenty of available proof out there as to her criminal activities (shop lifting seems to be her specialty).

Debbie Kern
951-544-7104
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#5 Author of original report

Correction

AUTHOR: Debbie Kern - (USA)

Leah Winkler was Frosty Paw Goldens.  I accidentally used Snowy Paws Goldens - Rushell is the owner of Snowy Paws Goldens and she has had her own set of nightmares with Leah.  I seem to get the two of them confused when writing because Leah imitated Rushell's kennel name (Snowy vs. Frosty) after her battle with Rushell. 

Debbie K
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#6 General Comment

Insanity

AUTHOR: Yalkable - (United States of America)

Do you realise what you have typed here would fully convince anyone the woman is telling the truth and you certainly sound like you're capable of beating a puppy? What kind of loving dog breeder is going to call a woman a fucked up bitch crack whore whose kennel has a gay ass name?

You sound like a wretched human being. Dogs are too good for you to care for.
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#7 Consumer Comment

WHY BUY FROM DEBBIE KERN SHE IS PURE EVIL ACTUALLY THE DEVIL

AUTHOR: anonomous - (United States of America)

DEBBIE KERN YOU ARE MAKING YOURSELF LOOK MORE LIKE AN A$S ON HERE THE MORE YOU WRITE THAT IS NOT TRUE AND MADE UP JUST BECAUSE THE DOG WAS REFUSED TO BE SOLD TO YOU AND YOUR KENNEL NAME WAS NOT USED BY THE 1ST OWNERS THAT ORIGINALLY NAMED HER WITH AKC.

AS I HAVE SAID AKC GRCA HAS ALL THE PROOF THEY NEED PROVING YOU ARE A LIAR AND HAVE DONE NOTHING BUT CAUSED PROBLEMS WITH THIS FAMILY THAT DOES NOT EVEN KNOW YOU. GIVE IT UP B*H GET A F*KING LIFE. I DONT HAVE TO THROW GOD IN YOUR FACE BUT YOU SURE ARE ASKING FOR MY ***** IN YOUR FACE FOR SURE....SO STOP WITH ALL THIS BULLSH* YOU HAVE CAUSED WITH YOUR STUPID SH* A$S LIES AND CONTACTING EVERYBODY & THEIR BROTHERS ABOUT THIS FAMILY.YOU ARE THE PROBLEM LOOK IN THE F*KING MIRROR OH NO DONT DO THAT IT MAY CRACK LIKE YOUR FAT A$S.

*****EVERYBODY DONT BELIEVE THIS CRACK WHORE DEBBIE KERN CALL AKC AND GRCA YOU WILL LEARN THE TRUTH YOURSELF.

DEBBIE KERN DONT KNOW WHEN TO STOP....GIVE IT UP BI*H THE WORLD SEES THAT YOU ARE F*KING CRAZY!!!!
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#8 General Comment

All of the reports signed anonomous are Lea (Leah) Winkler...

AUTHOR: Tubie - (U.S.A.)

Same extremely foul mouth, same punctuation, same creative use of capital letters and exclamation points.

Debbie might want to consider talking to the police about the threats that Lea has made to her and her family in these posts.  Perhaps a visit from her local police department will remind her that she does have to take responsibility for her actions here.

BTW, Lea (Leah) - since you insist on bringing God into nearly every post you make, may I suggest that you read the following:  Mathew 7:12 says "So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets"  You might also want to check out Mathew 15:11 "It is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but what comes out of the mouth; this defiles a person." and Colossians 3:8 "But now you must also rid yourselves of all such things as these: anger, rage, malice, slander, and filthy language from your lips."

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#9 Consumer Comment

WHY BUY FROM DEBBIE KERN SHE IS PURE EVIL ACTUALLY THE DEVIL

AUTHOR: anonomous - (United States of America)

This is NOT true, NONE of this that this crazy woman Debbie Kern is saying and herself as Zachary S. as well for I know this family personally. I wish you could know them too, you'd love them. This Debbie Kern just does not have anything better to do with her life and time than to sabotage others just as others are sabotaging other breeders as well. Seems like the ones that have medical issues that they are going through are the ones that are getting targeted. This family owns 3 goldens, how can 3 goldens be a puppy mill kennel for they do not own any kennels at all their dogs are in their houses and in their beds living on 5 1/2 acres and they have a nice home in AZ too....gosh this really urks me seeing that this crazy woman will NOT stop with this from 2008-2009, isn't this 2011?

Jealousy does weird things as I was saying before. CALL AKC yourself and call GRCA too, they will tell you what you need to know about the Winklers and what awesome people they are that breed very healthy puppies from birth on and are the ONLY ones in USA that give such wonderful health genetic guarantees on all their puppies 2-3 years plus hips elbows heart and eyes. How many other breeders will do that? NONE!

Not only is this lady Debbie Kern/Charles Chuck Kern ruining this family's lives but she/they have killed their dignity too, for killing is a "sin" it is right in the 10 commandments. God will judge her when her judgment day comes, boy will he ever. Hope she goes right to the firery pits of HELL.
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WINKLERS ARE NOT ANYWHERE A PUPPY MILL THEY DONT EVEN OWN KENNELS 2 LITTERS A YEAR IS NOT A PUPPY MILL!!!

AUTHOR: anonomous - (United States of America)

SOMEBODY owning 3 goldens with one as a Multi-Champion sire with over 30 titles on himself NO KENNELS AT ALL LIVE IN THEIR OWN HOUSE ON OVER 5 ACRES is NOT a puppy Mill!!! PUPPY MILLS DON'T DO CLEARANCES AND THEY HAVE MANY MANY LITTERS PER YEAR.

WINKLERS HAVE HAD 9 LITTERS IN 24 YEARS OF OWNING AND SHOWING GOLDENS.

See what I mean about this Debbie Kern BEING SO CRAZY??

ANYBODY IS WELCOMED TO THE WINKLER HOME PRIOR TO BUYING ONE OF THE HEALTHIEST PUPS YOU WILL EVER GET AND OWN.

SEEMS STRANGE TOO...NO BREEDERS GIVE 2-3 YEAR HEALTH GURANTEE ON THEIR PUPPIES WITH ALSO INCLUDING GUARANTEES ON HIPS ELBOWS HEART AND EYES BUT THE WINKLER'S DO...DOES THAT TELL YOU SOMETHING? AND WHOM TO BUY FROM.

Here is their ad...read it!

See how well these people treat their only 2 litters of pups per year and why they are so healthy. Do you see Debbie Kern doing this with her puppies?  NO!!

Full 100% English Creme' "Imported European Multi-Champion Sire" with 30 Plus titles alone on just him. Puppies are coming Spring 2011, first time newly parents. AKC registered Show Quality Golden Retrievers. We are not a kennel, just a loving family that loves and breeds our quality pets occasionally. We breed Full English Creme' Golden Retrievers of white to light English Creme' colors, specializing in International Champion lines. We have parents tested OFA heart, hips, elbows, eyes (CERF). Our puppies are all born in the house and stay with us for 4-5 weeks in the house before being moved to a larger area where they can run and play. All our puppies and our goldens live in our home with our family also in our warm comfy beds too. We have our puppies treated by the vet at 3 weeks of age as well as during 7-8 weeks of age, and having their full thorough Dr. exam at 6 weeks also includes fecal sample assuring they are all very healthy puppies at all times for all our buyers and their forever new family/homes. Our puppies are wormed at age 2 weeks, 3 weeks, 4 weeks, 6 weeks, and 8 weeks of age assuring that NO worms in any of our puppies and up to date on scheduled vaccines. They are very well socialized and bring you lots of joy for many years to come. Our puppies are pre-adjusted to shipping crates before being shipped to you and your family, they are not just stuffed in a shipping crate and thrown on an airplane for we take alot pride in our puppies and their feelings and with stress that it may cause them. Our Puppies come with a 2-3 year health genetic guarantee which also includes hips, elbows, heart, and eyes too. All our Goldens and pups are on NuVet Plus vitamin supplements also when in the womb assuring very healthy puppies. Our English Creme' Puppies are Available for pick up at our home or shipping is available for an extra fee! Please see our planned litter page on our website for our upcoming litter from our imported Multi-Champion sire, also available for stud, OFA Good Hips. Please visit our for more information. Club Affiliations and Registries: AKC, OFA, PENNHIP, CERF, GRCA, Golden Retriever Club of America
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#11 Consumer Comment

WHY BUY FROM DEBBIE KERN SHE IS PURE EVIL THE DEVIL TOO

AUTHOR: anonomous - (United States of America)

F* OFF!! I KNOW THIS FAMILY PERSONALLY AND I AM THE ONE WRITING ALL THE SH* TO YOU IN BEHALF OF MY OWN HEART OF WHAT I HAVE SEEN THAT YOU AS THIS C* B* DEBBIE KERN OF ALL THE DAMAGE THAT YOU, SHE HAS CAUSED TO THIS FAMILY THAT DOES NOTHING BUT STAY TO THEMSELVES AND HAVE TO DEAL WITH GRIEF FROM THIS PSYCHOTIC WOMAN DEBBIE KERN THAT KEEPS GOING ON FROM SOMETHING FROM 2008. IT IS 2011 C*!!!

FUNNY THAT DEBBIE KERN IS STILL UP TO HER OLD F*D UP TRICKS STILL CONTACTING OTHER BREEDERS AND OTHER COUNTRY BREEDERS TOO OF AN INCIDENT THAT WAS NEVER TRUE AND SHE MADE UP LIES TO AKC JUST TO WITHDRAW SYDNEY'S FULL AKC TO LIMITED JUST BECAUSE THE 1ST OWNERS FAILED TO USE DEBBIE KERN'S F*D UP GAY A* KENNEL NAME.
WELL HA!!!

THE WINKLERS DONT OWN A KENNEL THEIR DOGS ARE THEIR FAMILY PETS B* YOU F*D UP STUPID RETARDED 56 YEAR OLD C* B*. IF YOU WERE IN MY FACE, I'D FYOU UP NOW!!! LEAVE THEM ALONE AND YOUR ZACHARY A* B* TOO THAT YOU ARE WITH ALL THE DUMB F*D UP SH* YOU ARE SAYING AND YOUR GAY A* SEARCHES ON THIS FAMILY. GET A LIFE MOVE ON B*!!!!

GROW THE F* UP...YOU ARE MELINDA IN AZ THE DEVIL YOU ARE PURE HELL EVIL THE DEVIL IS ALL YOU ARE. DEVIL SATAN HELL YOU ARE DO YOU NOT GET IT YET B*?!!! STOP WHAT YOU ARE DOING THIS FAMILY DOES NOT EVEN KNOW YOU PRIOR TO THIS SH* YOU ARE DOING TO THEM.

F*!!!! LEAVE THEM ALONE...F*!!! GET IT THROUGH YOUR F*G HEAD C*!!

FOR ALL YOU OTHERS THAT ARE WONDERING WHAT IS GOING ON....GO TO DEBBIE KERN'S FIRST COMPLAINT ON LEA ALONG TIME AGO READ WHAT IT REPHRASES RIGHT ON THERE, I DO RECALL IT SAYS SOMETHING LIKE THIS.....LEA IF YOU DONT GIVE ME SYDNEY BACK FOR $800.00 I WILL MAKE YOUR LIFE LIVING HELL. WELL ALL YOU CONSUMERS THERE IT IS ALL IN WRITING FROM DEBBIE KERN B* HERSELF. NOW YOU SEE WHY I AM FIRED UP AND WANT TO KICK A*....LEAVE THIS FAMILY ALONE!!! THEY NEVER DID NOTHING NO SUCH THING NADA WHAT DO YOU NOT GET. DEBBIE KERN IS NOTHING BUT A TRASHER AGAINST OTHERS ALL FOR SOMETHING SO STUPID "HER F*G GAY ASS KENNEL NAME NOT USED" AND SHES ASKING FOR HER OWN FACE TO BE TRASHED FROM IT ALL!

STOP F*G WITH THE WINKLERS, F* WITH YOURSELF B*. YOUR A* NEEDS TO BE BEAT THEN THROWN BEHIND BARS OR MOF AFTER YOUR A* B*, THEY WAY YOU ARE GOING ABOUT ALL THIS YOU DESERVE TO F*G DIE B*!!!
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#12 General Comment

Lea responds the same way to a completely different breeder on a different board

AUTHOR: Tubie - (U.S.A.)

"...DRAMA QUEEN TROUBLE MAKER INSTIGATOR!!! LEAVE THIS FAMILY ALONE... CALL AKC AND GRCA AND SEE IF THESE PEOPLE ARE MAKING UP LIES YOU WILL SEE IT FOR YTOURSELF JEALOUS IDIOTS OUT THERE IS WHAT IT IS!!!akc.org http://www.grca.org/index.html EMAIL & CALL BOTH THESE COMPANIES ON THE WINKLER'S YOU WILL SEE THE IDIOT YOURSELF WHO THEY ARE!!!"

This was posted about a breeder named Eva Sikova - Evidog Golden Retrievers.

Seems a bit suspicious that in two different threads on two different boards about 2 different breeders and 2 different circumstances, someone would post extremely similar defenses.  Evidently, ALL breeders that Lea Winkler has had problems with are "DRAMA QUEEN TROUBLE MAKER INSTIGATOR"s
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#13 Consumer Suggestion

NO!!! NOT TRUE....NEVER once HAS THIS PERSON TOOK Anybody's DEPOSITS

AUTHOR: anonomous - (United States of America)

NO!!! NOT TRUE....NEVER once HAS THIS PERSON TOOK Anybody's  DEPOSITS AND NEVER RETURNED THEM BACK TO THEM WHEN ASKED. DO NOT BELIEVE DEBBIE KERN. SHE DONT KNOW HER ASS FROM A HOLE IN THE GROUND. SHE NEEDS TO BUTT OUT OF OTHER BREEDERS BUSINESS SHE IS NOTHING BUT TROUBLE, IMMATURE GOSSIP DRAMA QUEEN. KEEP TALKING TO HER SO YOU CAN BURN IN HELL WITH HER TOO IF YOU WANT TO BE A DRAMA QUEEN WITH HER. GOD BE THE GLORY AND WITH YOU ALL.

DO NOT BELIEVE THIS CRAZY WOMAN DEBBIE KERN THAT NEEDS PSYCH MEDICATIONS.

CALL AKC AND GRCA AND YOU WILL SEE WHO IS TELLING THE TRUTH AND YOU WILL ALSO SEE WHO IS LYING, PHYCH WOMAN BETTER MAKE HER APPOINTMENT TO GET THE MEDICAL HELP SHE NEEDS AND TO STOP IMPLEMENTING OTHERS INTO HER OWN PROBLEMS.

WOW!! JEALOUSY DOES WEIRD THINGS!
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