- Report: #223185
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Complaint Review: Liberty League International LLI
Liberty League International LLI14300 N. Northsight Blvd 210 Scottsdale, Arizona U.S.A.
Liberty League International Also Known As Liberty League International AKA LLI promotional schemes ripoff Scottsdale Arizona
*Consumer Suggestion: You must ask yourself this question.
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: A comment on Liberty League
*Consumer Suggestion: A messege from a former LLI top earner who left
*Consumer Suggestion: Their top income earners are quitting and leaving.
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The owners of LLI allow their advisors to use bate and switch techniques to lure their victims, then once they get them where they want them, no one can ever get in contact with them.
L Molina solicits a web site that states one could make a six-figure income with as little as $2,000. The claim is that there is never any selling or telling. After I bought into the business idea, only then was I introduced to a product which I spent $1520.00 for. By purchasing the product this would put me in the position to sell it as well. Immediately after the 3-day return policy had expired I began to receive countless emails encouraging me, from the Molinas, to listen in on conference calls that would offer more products totaling approximately, $20,000.00.
L Molina, from the start was misleading, starting with false promises disclosed in the web site. I would later discontinue using a similar web site because it seemed inappropriate and misleading. I later found that their policy was not to take any leads from other associates, L Molina knew that I had spoken to another associate before speaking with her. So, in essence, she is out to manipulate and take from anyone--by any means necessary.
Believing that I could be successful, I would then spend $7,995.00 for a liberty conference ticket on 9/2004. I found out on 8/2005 that the tickets were no longer valid. Before purchasing the Liberty Tickets, (B Molina) told me that I could use the ticket anytime in the future, disclosing no deadlines. As an advisor and close friends with the owners, he knew more than he wanted me to know about the transaction. I believe that his omissions were deliberate.
On August 2005, a LLI receptionist informed me that I had missed the deadline. Mind you, even the receptionist was rude. Prior to my call to LLI, L Molina disregard any of my questions about the conference ticket, ignoring both my phone call and emails.
No deadline was ever disclosed to me however, either verbal or written, by neither Liberty League International nor Lisa Rae Molina and Bob Molina. The web site that I am now referred to for disclosure has been changed since I made the purchase. I believe that the advisors knew more than they revealed at the time but chose instead to profit $5,000.00 fraud of persuasion. Both advisors knew that I could not attend the conference immediately, as I was then committed to my studies and Bob Molina said to me that I would be in position to make more money and that I could use the ticket at a future date, indicating no deadline.
The advisors are allowed to use false materials to lure the public into purchasing products -- when only a business opportunity is advertised -- that is way above retail value. This is a mischievous and illegal pyramid scheme in the works. This is fraud of persuasion because on many conference calls the advisors openly admits to shunning the buying associates if all purchases have not been made totaling approximately $22,000.
Liberty League International promotes a business of integrity, but this is truly not the case.
After trusting the Molinas, giving them $10,000 of my hard earned money they would ignore any questions that I had. They made $6000. in commissions off my naive a**. I, like any other American want a good and prosperous life experience. It's just too bad that the US allow businesses like LLI to exist. Their product is just a copy of what has been said by many others for many years. They offer nothing new.
I filed a complaint with the State of Arizona, but not long after, I was denied any reimbursement because LLI believed that they could substantiate their claim for full disclosure of the 3 day cancelation policy.
Not until November 2006, I thought that it was at a total lost. LLI have been found guilty of violating the Arizona Consumer Fraud Act and the Arizona Promotional Schemes (pyramid) statute. And they have been ordered to pay restitution to everyone who filed a complaint with the Office of Attorney General or the BBB by June 17, 2006. I happen to be on the restitution list:) And will get the wholesale value of the products that I purchased.
All who remain part of that deceitful company will endure much disappoint in their lives. The Universe requires balance and the unjust will have to give back, eventually.
San Carlos, California
This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 11/30/2006 10:15 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Liberty-League-International-LLI/Scottsdale-Arizona/Liberty-League-International-Also-Known-As-Liberty-League-International-AKA-LLI-promotiona-223185. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.
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