• Report: #614803

Complaint Review: Lighthouse Newfoundlands Lisa Martens

  • Submitted: Wed, June 16, 2010
  • Updated: Mon, July 30, 2012

  • Reported By: joyce — Indianapolis Indiana United States of America
Lighthouse Newfoundlands Lisa Martens
17402 Indian Hollow Rd Grafton, Ohio United States of America

Lighthouse Newfoundlands Lisa Martens lisa Martens Lighthouse Newfoundlands sells defective puppies. I bought a puppy that had a heart condition Grafton, Ohio

*General Comment: Legal Notice of Subpoena

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Breeder Vengeance

*Consumer Comment: Stay away from Lighthouse!!!

*Author of original report: lighthouse Newfoundlands

*Consumer Comment: Light House Newfoundland's has WONDERFUL Puppies, Top breeder in the USA

*Author of original report: You amaze me..

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Utter Nonsense, Julie Thomas!

*Author of original report: Is there no way to stop this?

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Reinforcement of False Report

*Author of original report: what a shame.....

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: False Accusation

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 Lighthouse newfoundlands is to be avoided...I see the postings here, and just wanted to tell you about my experience. I bought a puppy who showed a heart murmer...and dispite all we could do, ultimately died..I called these people and she seemed angry and didn't want to accept the diagnosis.. I had my vet send the cardio study. She grudgingly said she would replace the puppy...I contacted her periodically for four months, and finally got another puppy....would you believe, this one had the same Problem !! When I called Lisa Martens, she was furious...She actually cursed at me. She said I was fabricating vet reports to get free puppies.. we certainly did not want this to happen.. We had spent 1800 for the first puppy and hundreds in vet bills, and now this ! She fairly railed at me, cursing and screeming. She said she "did not replace the replacement" and that was the end of it....So we learned a hard lesson. If she had just been nice about we would have understood whatever she said.. WE did n't deserve to be cursed at. Since then we have heard from several individuals who have had underweight puppies, and puppies with heart conditions. One party had to sue...I would not recommend this breeder...

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#1 General Comment

Legal Notice of Subpoena

AUTHOR: Thomas M. Horwitz - ()

Please take notice that Lisa A. Martens and Lisa A. Martens dba Lighthouse Newfoundlands commenced an action in the Lorain County, Ohio, Court of Common Pleas, Case No. 12CV177494, due to the deceptive and defamatory statements made by Joyce in Ripoff Report No. 614803 and the deceptive and defamatory statements made by Julie Thomas in Comments 2, 4, 6, and 8 to Ripoff Report No. 614803.  In this action, and in compliance with Ariz. R. Civ. P. 45.1, the Clerk of the Maricopa County, Arizona, Superior Court has issued a subpoena to Ripoff Report for the contact information of the persons who posted these statements on Ripoff Report.  The subpoenaed information will be sent to Thomas M. Horwitz, Esq., Thomas M. Horwitz Co., LPA, 1991 Crocker Road, Suite 600, Westlake, Ohio 44145.

The Maricopa County Superior Court is located at 201 W. Jefferson, Phoenix, Arizona, 85003.  The
Lorain County Court of Common Pleas is located at 225 Court Street, Elyria, Ohio 44035.

For additional information, contact Thomas Horwitz at 440-892-3331.

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#2 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Breeder Vengeance

AUTHOR: Lisa - (United States of America)

The above comment is utterly false and obviously written by a breeder, or a breeder's friend.  The only Rip Off Reports that have been filed against me have been by other breeders that I no longer wish to associate with.  It's a shame that they have so much time to spend on the Internet instead of with their beloved dogs.

I have several clients who have been to my kennel, along with GOOD breeders, who will gladly vouch for me.

Lisa M.
Lighthouse 
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#3 Consumer Comment

Stay away from Lighthouse!!!

AUTHOR: NB - (United States of America)

Lighthouse Newfoundlands and her "puppets" have been writing false accusations (and false "good" reports about her posing as buyers) about other breeders for some time now and it needs to stop.  Lighthouse Newfoundlands is one of THE WORST breeders EVER.

As for the saying "people living in glass houses should not throw stones", I suggest Lighthouse and her puppets stop talking about other places and defending her (as her BF who is a breeder did, and if you read his web site he is the total opposite kind of breeder than what Lighthouse is).  I am a Newfoundland breeder and have people buyers from Ohio (and long time Newfoundland owners) who mentioned visiting Lighthouse and said the conditions were terrible.  They said she would only let one or 2 dogs out and brought a young puppy out for the kennel building.  They said the dogs were a matted mess and she wouldn't let them in the kennel (any good breeder should let you see their facilities). 

They have now bought 2 Newfoundland dogs from me and are waiting for their third.  They said they left Lighthouse and would NEVER buy a puppy from her.  I have encouraged them to write to the AKC (being that she is a breed of "Merit" - which anyone can be, you just make sure all the puppies get registered yourself rather than giving buyers the papers making sure all puppies are registered).  If being a "Breeder of Merit" means being like Lighthouse, no thanks, I don't want to be one!  I have also had her buyers call me for advice on their puppies because she was difficult to talk to and would not help them after getting a puppy, what kind of breeder is that?

I am tired of these people (Lighthouse and puppets) trying to slam other good breeders' reputations.  The breeders she slams all do health testing on their breeding dogs, vet and cardio checks on their puppies, does she?  Look at offa.org and you will see many Lighthouse Newfs, but not many in recent years.  They are setting themselves up for some major lawsuits.  Ask ANYONE in the Newfoundland community (other than Lighthouse's BF of course) and they will tell you about her reputation.  She has screwed over so many people and other breeders it is horrible.  Many too afraid to speak up because this woman and her friends are CRAZY and will go to all lengths to try to ruin good people.  Yes, KARMA will win eventually, but I hate it that it in the meantime so many good people are being hurt.
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#4 Author of original report

lighthouse Newfoundlands

AUTHOR: Julie Thomas - (United States of America)


   to the 'friend' of Lisa's who has bought three puppies...... I am in no way out for blood.. I am not vendictive nor am I a lier.. The real truth is , Lisa lost a good friend from all this nonsense. She has since continued to bad mouth me by phoning friends that have my dogs.  Talk about vendictive ! And to add insult to injury, that beautiful puppy did not die at all, but was dropped off at a shelter after hours with a note.....saying he had "multiple skeletal issues'.....Lisa has convinced her boyfriend to participate in this lie with her.  I am sure she feels very satisfied with herself. There is
a settling out of these kinds of things that is above the jurisdiction of any court of law. People pay for things they do to deliberately hurt other people. I wish Lisa every good thing,,,,,anyone can phone me who cares to...417-345-8840.
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#5 Consumer Comment

Light House Newfoundland's has WONDERFUL Puppies, Top breeder in the USA

AUTHOR: Elani - (Canada)

 

I have bought 3 newfoundland pups from Lisa and they are Wonderful dogs, no health issues at all, perfect breeding, wonderful temperaments! I have one male that is 10 and still going strong

I have been reading all the reports and I am shocked to see Lisa from Lighthouse newfoundland's caught up with all this Mess

I don't know this windancer newfoundland breeder but she is out for blood and she was the BREEDER who sold Lisa the sick Pup and is now trying to hurt Lisa's perfect reputation, so sad there are places like this that can harm the innocent

Anyone who is looking for a newfoundland puppy please don't be afraid to buy one from Lisa at Lighthouse newfoundland's, her puppies are gorgeous! And you will Not be disappointed, she is eaasy to deal with, One of the few breeders out there that loves her dogs, they are her kids and not kennels up like most breeders do, this is her passion. She also never sells off her retired females, she keeps them all and has a few that are 13 years old and healthy happy dogs

This report is clearly written from Julie at windancer just trying to hurt Lisa, too bad Lisa ever bought a dog from this nutty woman who calls herself a breeder, too Bad AKC let's anyone breed

 

 

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#6 Author of original report

You amaze me..

AUTHOR: Julie Thomas - (United States of America)

 


  Doug..this was a puppy with a 'loose right hip' which is common for a 6 mo old newfoundland....
This is nothing that should have killed him..I don't know what happened to the pup, or even if it did, but you did not find a cause...Till this day I have NEVER seen a scrap of paper from you verifying anything...The only information I have is from your vet over the phone and Dr Keller from OFA.. You NEED TO SEND ME DR KELLERS REPORT...which you have refused to do...Isn't that strange....just publish it here...right now..for everyone to see......then we can stop the lies. Yes, I have two of my own girls that I bottle fed, and xrayed at 6 mo....up on the ofa site..They were dysplastic and placed in pet homes..I thought you were supposed to publish xrays good or bad...that is an honest breeder,,,,I didn't have to publish that....now you want to point to it continuelly....Do you keep your problems at lighthouse a secret?My information says you do.....and deney it...You called me yesterday to say you wanted this stopped....what is going on here? Then Lisa calls 'briefly' last night after I told her I didn't want to talk to her anymore till she sends me credible information. Is that so hard?  Just send the AKC paper, since he is dead, and the vet report..real simple to get a refund.....It has been weeks of this nonsense and no report...how strange.


(readers can go to www.newfiepup.org for information about lighthouse newfoundlands.)

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#7 REBUTTAL Individual responds

Utter Nonsense, Julie Thomas!

AUTHOR: Doug - (United States of America)

After trying to calmly have an intelligent conversation with you just yesterday, it has once again fallen on deaf ears.  How could you file a false Rip Off Report on Lisa, when we are the ones who lost a dog?  This makes no sense whatsoever, and YOU should be ashamed of yourself for pretending to be "Joyce," and claiming allegations that never happened.  


I have no control over what other people write about you; obviously, someone else lost a puppy you sold them as well.  Maybe you should re-think your breeding program and treat people who have problems with the pups you sell them in a professional manner.  You have crossed the line, and this has become a circus.  We are in mourning over the loss and you continue to make me revisit our tragedy. 


Anyone can see OFA results by typing in Windancer's and choosing the Newfoundland breed.  I never dreamed you could be this cruel to us, especially since Lisa had total confidence in you when she chose to get one of your puppies.  You got your money from me, and I had to bury him.  Who is the victim here?  Fact are facts.


Doug Thoms 

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#8 Author of original report

Is there no way to stop this?

AUTHOR: Julie Thomas - (United States of America)

 


  Your previously VALID complaint?  I thought you said you were sorry.....you are right..this has gotten completely out of hand...first you posing as 'Kristeenah' on the net...and then posting this horrible piece of fiction.. What did you expect me to do? What else could I do ? You tell me ?  And now you say the pup is mysteriously dead? And you 'burried' him without finding out a cause? who would do such a thing? This was a BEAUTIFUL puppy that did not deserve this...I am heart broken....Lisa..Once someone lies to you...you cannot believe anything they say...You need to learn to tell the truth. You are very good at deception and then defending yourself by saying things like "I can sleep at night".....I have no idea how...All I can say is...there is Justice sometime....and although I can do nothing about the slander you have done to me, very unfairly, what goes around comes around and you will get yours down the road sometime, somewhere,,  remember that.....

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#9 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Reinforcement of False Report

AUTHOR: Lisa - (United States of America)

As stated above, the original report filed against me was from a fictitious person named Joyce who is clearly Julie Thomas at Windancer Newfoundlands, seeking revenge from the report that I originally filed against her on June 14th.  This ordeal has gotten entirely out of hand. I am not retracting my previous valid complaint.  As any educated person can read for themselves, the complaint she filed against me is totally fabricated.


 


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#10 Author of original report

what a shame.....

AUTHOR: Julie Thomas - (United States of America)

 

Lisa Martens of LightHouse newfs did fabricate a complete story about me and my puppy...I talked to her at length about the puppy till she lied about an elbow condition and refused to give me xrays or vet reports(till this day I have seen nothing.) I did however talk to the xray vet who said his elbows were fine. When I confrounted Lisa about the lie, she did not respond. So I did tell her I would not communicate with her further till she got me the vet report. She then became LIVID, and called me names in email and phone messages..She had sent xrays to OFA and promised to share them with me.. She also lied about what Dr Keller told her.(OFA) I do not understand the reason for this whole thing...but she has damaged me greatly. Anyone who tries to pull up my web site gets this report...which is a total fabrication...There is nothing I can do about it, and I am devastated...my business is ruined....4 people in the last week have contacted me or breeder friends,, one even questioned a breeder that has my lines.. The internet is a dangerous place....Now Lisa says she is sorry, but the damage is done....I am by myself and this is all I do and love.....my life is changed....what a shame..and all over nothing...nothing at all...

Julie Thomas

Windancer

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#11 REBUTTAL Owner of company

False Accusation

AUTHOR: Lisa - (United States of America)

This Rip Off Report is entirely false.  I had filed a Rip Off complaint against another breeder this past Monday, June 14, 2010 (Windancer Newfoundlands) and she proceeded to seek revenge out of anger.  Julie and I have have made up now, and both regret getting upset and taking our private matter public. 

The last time I sold a puppy to Indianapolis, IN was last year.  I can assure you, my clients not so young pup is happy and healthy.  I certainly do not yell and scream at clients, and handle situations, should they arise, in a very professional manner.  The only time I replaced a puppy was a few months ago, and she was located here in Ohio. 

Lisa M, Lighthouse Newfoundlands

 

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