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  • Submitted: Thu, July 31, 2008
  • Updated: Sun, October 26, 2008

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Liveperson Kasamba
Liveperson.com Internet U.S.A.

Liveperson Kasamba Unethical Company And Unethical Psychics proof that some psychics discuss - even inside the company New York Internet

*Consumer Suggestion: Got Me uses the same old insults

*Consumer Suggestion: Ok I admit....But still she is wacked!

*Consumer Suggestion: Ok I admit....But still she is wacked!

*Consumer Suggestion: Ok I admit....But still she is wacked!

*Consumer Suggestion: Ok I admit....But still she is wacked!

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: We could all die of old age waiting for janice to "PROVE" anything

*Consumer Suggestion: BUMP

*Consumer Comment: I agree Andrew..I have followed post for 3 years

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Give it a BREAK Janice

*Author of original report: Give it a rest-

*Consumer Comment: BTW Andrew you are doing the ONE thing I avoid at all costs

*Author of original report: Ok Andrew

*Consumer Comment: I agree

*UPDATE Employee: No Psychiatric Issues here

*Consumer Suggestion: Senior Researcher Adelaide, Australian Dr. Janice Duffy is Stalking Psychics Online

*Author of original report: Augusta-I don't mean to sound harsh towards you

*Author of original report: Honestly Augusta I know that but the company is cooking the books

*Consumer Comment: The bottom line is the consumer

*Author of original report: I did the work I say what goes in the report period

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Your right Iris, they are meaningless rants

*Author of original report: Sometimes you can't see the forest for the trees but it is good now :)

*Author of original report: Sometimes you can't see the forest for the trees but it is good now :)

*Consumer Comment: Stay focused, Janice! LivePerson is the target.

*Author of original report: BTW Mimi, I checked with a psychic

*Author of original report: Why Mimi, you are wrong-it is far worse then hysteria.

*Author of original report: i must be psychic-can see the title but not the text

*Consumer Comment: Janice you asked for a specific diagnosis of your hysteria...

*Author of original report: Nutcase...can you be more specific...tell me which diagnostic criteria that I fit

*Author of original report: Nutcase...can you be more specific...tell me which diagnostic criteria that I fit

*Author of original report: Nutcase...can you be more specific...tell me which diagnostic criteria that I fit

*Author of original report: Nutcase...can you be more specific...tell me which diagnostic criteria that I fit

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Full on NUT CASE

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Full on NUT CASE

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Full on NUT CASE

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Full on NUT CASE

*Consumer Comment: fruno - I see

*Author of original report: AUGUSTA-FRUNO USES THOSE SAME PHRASES IN ALL HIS READINGS-

*Author of original report: No, they are not the same person, but they both give the same reading to every client

*Consumer Comment: Fruno, Lee

*Consumer Comment: Confused? Fruno and Lee?

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Since they bought the company it seems the Liveperson Kasamba are increasingly supporting the activities of the fraudulent and unethical psychics.

I have loaded two files onto the yahoo group called: weakguyonkasamba

The first is shows two psychics discussing a client in a disparaging way.

I want to add that some ethical psychics spoke out in the thread against their discussion of a client in a public forum, but I didn't post that because I do not want the ethical ones to be linked with the others in any way.

It is just two screenshots but it tells a big story. I took the screenshots 3 months after they were posted on the psychics forum in LP. That forum is highly moderated by the LP staff and they didn't bother to remove it. Yet they remove any posts that challenge their authority.

The second file is an update to the Master Z fraud. I added the email from LP support in which LP support said they would not post the rating because it was malicious. Gee, I thought Liveperson advertise that it had a fair rating system iwhich was designed to help clients make choices.

In the email we were banned for 'harassing multiple experts. That account was only opened before the reading (I added the welcome email) and within hours of posting the rating we were banned so I don't know how we could have had the time (especially since it was night time here) to engage in much harassment because I for one need my sleep. The account was open maybe 36 hours. liars-more proof of false advertising.

There was a particular reason for targeting him the old perv likes to sexually harass women clients. And yes I have proof and no I am not going to post iit publically because I was asked to keep it in the report and not post it publically. However, it is not hard to imagine. Later I will post screen shots of Master Z online at the sex site and Liveperson at the same time. Now that is not a crime. But he wasn't getting any business on the sex site maybe one client a year and he paid for a featured listing sometimes so I guess he was doing it for the ego boost or maybe he just gets off hurting people.

We had said he was a fraud in the rating and that was why were removed, Yet LP advertises that they have a rating system that assures prospective new clients that they are paying for expertise, not fraud.

I intend to keep loading files on a regular basis now. I will take the most damaging snippets from the case studies in order to warn clients. I tried very very hard over the past year to refrain from untrammelled psychic bashing and focus on trying to get some proof that the company is bent. In the report I have only used case examples of psychics for which there is irrefutable proof that they are frauds.

But after listening to the abject denials from Ladriele that she did anything wrong and logging on to see that someone was trying to get at me again (like how obvious to pick that old post to send a message) as far as I am concerned all bets are off.

What matters is warning clients about those evil creatures. I have had several messages from Liveperson clients who have said they had thought of trying master Z or Powerful visions until they saw them on the yahoo group.

You see it doesn't take much to warn clients these days. In fact a website might be a good idea. It would come up on google and clients could anonymously send in their experiences ESPECIALLY when they have trusted someone for a long time, paid them a lot of money and suddenly they are blocked because they want to know why they paid thousands of dollars and their predictions didn't come through.

After I load a few bits and pieces outing some frauds I am going to start a section in the files for psychics that lead clients on and block them.
SO TO ANY NEW READERS OR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO KNOW WHO THE FRAUDS ARE ON LIVEPERSON/KASAMBA GO AND JOIN THE YAHOO GROUP

weakguyonkasamba

The group is not moderated-any one can join automatically copy the files leave the group with the copies or stick around because they are going to be loaded a lot quicker now.

Since most of the huge report is finished (it got interrupted when i was ill but got my third wind now), it really is a 30 second job to do a cut and paste showing the psychic and the proof of fraud. After this last couple of days I realised it is time to start PROTECTING CLINETS FROM THE EVIL ON LIVEPERSON KASAMBAl that masquerade as psychics on that site.

It is beyond me why the frauds would hurt people for money; sexually harass young girls while they were paying some outrageous rate to a man they thought they could trust; try to get one last huge payment out of someone who was depressed (no use denying it Ladriele, I have all the transcripts including the one when I wouldn't pay and I was really down and you cut me off and sent me a crying face-mocking me).

Oh and the people who wrote those posts about me (It looks like different writing styles) whenever information about you or one of your mates is loaded onto the yahoo group and business slowly drops know that it is YOUR fault because reading those posts after some time made me realise how truly stupid you are.

I could find you with an attorney and an internet expert and I WOULD WIN A LIBEL CASE but know this. Seeing those posts and listening to the denials and victim blaming of a so called psychic when I had all the written proof about what she told me has pushed me just a little too far.

I have the benefit of hindsight, I am not depressed and I caught up on my work from when I was ill. But I am so totally disgusted. I mean how do the frauds sleep at night. Fruno advertises he is like the pillar of his community and yet he defrauds people on a daily basis. Why doesn't he see that using the same scripted readings over and over againfor years is immoral and illegal. It is fraud.

I'll load Fruno and Lee as soon as I get my damaged hard drive back because they are bith written up for the report. Oh I nearly forgot. I have quite a few excerpts from transcripts (with permission to use them anonymously) that show quite a few of he front page experts trying to sell spells and meditations and cleansings.

I really DO have 500 pages of research and while the report will not be disseminated at this point, it is easy to do a little cut and paste here and there. It can't be too difficult to set up a web site that google picks up. All the frauds have Roadkill and MaryAnn to thank because, you know what, she crossed the line and that is it. The insults were nothing But listen to me you selfish (not allowed to write the words) evil vindictive scrags who published enough details to enable some psycho to find out where I live.

MY FATHER RISKED HIS LIFE FOR YOUR WAR. He was a bomber pilot detailed to Japan in WW2. My Grandfather enlisted in both wars. I have a relative who went over to help YOUR country during the Gulf War. My cousin went to Vietnam to help YOUR country. My Dad is very frail now. He slipped off the wing of a plane and with age his back is gone. He can hardly walk and because he lives with me he wouldn't have a chance against some psycho.

That was the only thing I worried about the first time those posts were published but now I have to worry and be attentive to making sure windows are closed etc all because of you evil hearts and stupid minds. I am going to be far more proactive in exposing INDIVIDUAL FRAUDULENT PSYCHICS and I have 3-400 pages of proof of fraud. I didn't stalk and target particular psychics when you wrote that BUT I SURE AM GOING TO EXPOSE THEM NOW.

SO IT IS PAYBACK TIME. MY FATHER IS NOT VERY WELL AND ROADKILL, WHI i ASSUME IS ONE OF THE AUTHORS, DECIDED TO BRING THOSE REPORTS THAT GIVE ENOUGH INFORMATION FOR SOME TO FIND OUT WHERE I LIVE AND MAYBE HURT MY FATHER-WHO RISKED HIS LIFE FOR YOUR STUPID FREEDOM. I STILL LIVE AT THE SAME ADDRESS AS WHEN I WORKED AT THE UNIVERSITY. IT IS EASY TO FIND OUT WHERE SOMEONE LIVES AND IT IS ALSO COMMON FOR PEOPLE WHO BREAK INTO HOUSES IN WHICH EKDERLY PEOPLE ARE ALONE TO BASH THEM,

I HAVE TO WORK. MY FAYHER IS ALMOST HOUSEBOUND NOW. THE NEIGHBOURS ON BOTH SIDES WORK. I WILL WORRY NOW-ALL DAY. BUT YOU SEE EVERY TIME I GET ANXIOUS ABOUT MY DAD I WILL PLUG IN MY FLASHDRIVE INTO MY WORK COMPUTER AND LOAD SOME MORE INFORMATION ABOUT ONE OF THE EVIL CON ARTISTS WHO FLEECE GOOD PEOPLE OF THEIR MONEY, DISCUSS AND PUBLISH CLIENT DETAILS AND PUT HUMAN BEINGS AT RISK FOR THEIR OWN GAIN.

BTW: Don't bother threatening to report me to the government I am exempt from those rules because of the nature of my work, i just spent four days at home using mMY OWN RESOURCES to finish a major report so that the clinical trial technicians could use my office for ECGs. Our working space is small and we have very sick patinets so sometimes it is easier to work at home.

Seeing thos posts again in a different light made me realise that whoever wrote the posts is truly evil and likely to be in my report. I AM BEYOND ANGRY. I am so over the bunch of evil vindictive lying scrags on this site, i am sick of reading reports from clients that have been ripped off or hurt, I didn't out to do this project but I am going to finish it.

It was always about the structure-I didn't ser out to stalk psychics. I acually came across this site and made a report and got attacked. I was naive and had been through a bad time. Mostly I could belive how hearless and cruel these expensive psychic could be when you questioned them ot your money ran out. Moreover, despite the fact that I had transcripts in which they declared 100% that they were right, they denied it made some excuse and blocked me.

I am going to start a section inside the yahoo group and provide examples of the ones that did that to me in order to warn others not to have that first reading.

So listen, you vindictive scrags. I actually wasn't guilty of all those stalking accusations but I PROMISE YOU I AM GOING TO BE FAR WORSE THAN YOU COULD EVER IMAGINE. I HAVE SO MUCH PROOF FROM PEOPLE WHO GIVE SCRIPTED READINGS TO THOSE WHO TRY TO TAKE YOU OFFFLINE OR SELL YOU A 30 MINUTE MEDITATION, multiple profiles, the lot

Shortly I AM GOING TO START A WEBSITE AND WORK OUT THE BEST WAY TO GET IT TO GOOGLE NEXT TO THE SITE AND CALL IT LIVEPERSON PSYCHICS FIND THE FRAUDS HERE - or something

I actually wasn't into psychic bashing. What you fail to admit is that there are a lot of frauds and many are on the front couple of pages. The purpose really was to demonstrate how the company covers up the fraud. What I found out was it is activly engaging in facilitating it AND I can prove several incidences of false advertising

That is the last section of the report that needs to be edited. I got sick then drowned my compter. I just sent that huge publication to my very happy boss and that means i have a bit more time now and a working laptop at home.

LET ME SAY ONE MORE TIME: THE YAHOO GROUP IS COMPLETELY OPEN. ANYONE CAN JOIN -YOU DON'T NEED ANYONE'S APPROVAL TO JOIN, VIEW OR DOWNLOAD FILES. IT IS CALLED

weakguyonkasamba

hAVE A LOOK AT THE MASTER Z FILES AND YOU'LL SEE WHY

ROADKILL POSTING ON THAT OLD THREAD THAT WAS A NOT SO SUBTLE ATTEMPT TO HURT ME

I WILL NOW WORRY ABOUT MY DAD.

YOU CROSSED THE LINE

A 'REAL PSYCHIC' WOULD KNOW THOSE ALLEGATIONS WERE NOT TRUE

ALSO A 'REAL PSYCHIC' WOULD KNOW THAT YOU HAVE GONE TOO FAR AND I AM GOING TO HURT YOU BACK OVER AND OVER AGAIN,

EITHER YOU OR SOME OF YOUR MATES ARE IN THE REPORT. IF NOT, THOSE WHO ARE PUBLICALLY EXPOSED BECAUSE OF YOU WILL NOT BE PLEASED

MAYBE YOU SHOULD TAKE A WALK DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THE HIGHWAY BECAUSE IT WILL HURT LESS

MY FATHER HAS BECOME VERY DISABLED IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS AND IS AN EASY TARKET FOR SOME PSYCHO.

IT ALSO SHOWS, MUCH LIKE THE SCREENSHOTS I JUST POSTED IN THE YAHOO GROUP, THAT NOT ONLY DISCUSSING BUT DENIGRATING CLIENTS IS A COMMIN PRACTICE AMONG THE FRAUDS.

YOUR NOT PSYCHIC-YOU WOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT PUTTING AN OLD MAN WHO I LOVE AND WHO FOUGHT FOR YOUR FREEDOM AT RISK WOULD PUSH ME INTO REVENGE MODE.

THERE IS NO GOING BACK NOW. I AM BEYOND ANGRY. IT IS TIME TO START PROTECTING CLIENTS.

IT ONLY HIT ME THE LAST FEW DAYS HOW EVIL SOME OF YOU PEOPLE ARE

WELL, I AM GOING TO WARN CLIENTS AND BELIEVE ME IF ONE LOOK AT THE COPYRIGHTED PICTURE STOLEN BY POWERFUL VISIONS STOPPED A POTENTIAL CLIENT WHO WAS ABOUT TO HAVE A READING, THHE REST OF THE INFORMATION WILL OPEN THEIR EYES TO ALL THE FRAUDS.

I DO KNOW WHO THE GENUINE ONES ARE BUT I WON'T PUBLISH IT. HOWEVER IF A POTENTIAL CLIENT EMAILS ME AND ASK IF A SPECIFIC PSYCHIC IS A FRAUD OR NOT I WILL TELL THEM THE TRUTH-YES, NO OR i DON'T KNOW.

SOROADKILL AND WHOEVER IS INVOLVED IN THOSE POSTS I GUESS YOU ACHIEVED YOU OBJECTIVE-TO UPSET ME. YOU JUST PICKED THE WRONG PERSON AT THE WRONG TIME.

Janice
other
Australia

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#1 Consumer Suggestion

Got Me uses the same old insults

AUTHOR: Iris - (U.S.A.)

Got Me
0z, California
Denmark

Give it a BREAK Janice
If you would work on your so called 'report' instead of posting on ROR your lengthy boring rants maybe someone would actually see some progress?? Still waiting, 2 yrs later, still nothing......oh excuse me you said 14 months in a previous post,.........long time, hell you could have a baby by then if you had ever married........


In another thread, Got Me says that I've never been married or had children. She somehow defines success by this insult. Too bad her facts are wrong since I have been married and had children!

Got Me is a "psychic." Medium Silenciuex is a "psychic." Since Halloween is upon us, perhaps they'll be up for a little trick or treat before their masks are removed.
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Ok I admit....But still she is wacked!

AUTHOR: New York Yankee - (U.S.A.)

There are some fakes on liveperson, and lets just say some of them dont have real gifts they are more like advisors and counselors, But then you have the really generic ones that say all this stuff about this and that...But Janice isnt helping and caring about others, she is all for herself, can't everyone see. She spends a load of money on readings, even to this day..She has blogs and post all over the place, I mean all over the place, I did research on this woman, if you go through many sites of readers, you find her there, which is creepy as much as she is a psychic basher why is she still going to them? What she needs to do is go to a dating site or something and get herself a man...I am not taking up for anyone that is hurting or being unethical...But honey what may have not been good for you doesnt mean that its all the same for others, you are acting like a leader, when in reality you have serious issues, Who would follow you Janice? You are sick really and the yahoo group is sad, many of the people there are seeing 10 different readers what in the world!!!!! I mean I could find alot of better things to do with my money.

Yes I do feel people feel that the higher they pay and the ones that are on the front page are the best, when in my experience it hasnt been that case. ASide from that Janice you are getting old and tired, give it up! This is to out the the people that are doing wrong, not the company itself.

Remember Liveperson has medical experts, business, fashion, computers, etc

From what I see Janice you are doing nothing any different then they are, you have posted so many fake stories and screen names and although some of what you may say is true as from experience I know that Ladriele is all about money and wasnt accurate and of course she changes her stories alot....But why dont you just leave it be and move on with your life, you cannot seem to move on. That shows you have a mental problem...I wish you luck honey. And I dare you to throw any attacks at me, i am coming full force with alot of something to back up my mouth....

Why makes you think that what you are doing will do harm by these readers, dont you know eventually karma will come back around they will have their day. I guess I just dont like you because you are so negative and you go after everyone and everything is about you poor Janice and 53 year old woman that should know better. Sad very sad!
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Ok I admit....But still she is wacked!

AUTHOR: New York Yankee - (U.S.A.)

There are some fakes on liveperson, and lets just say some of them dont have real gifts they are more like advisors and counselors, But then you have the really generic ones that say all this stuff about this and that...But Janice isnt helping and caring about others, she is all for herself, can't everyone see. She spends a load of money on readings, even to this day..She has blogs and post all over the place, I mean all over the place, I did research on this woman, if you go through many sites of readers, you find her there, which is creepy as much as she is a psychic basher why is she still going to them? What she needs to do is go to a dating site or something and get herself a man...I am not taking up for anyone that is hurting or being unethical...But honey what may have not been good for you doesnt mean that its all the same for others, you are acting like a leader, when in reality you have serious issues, Who would follow you Janice? You are sick really and the yahoo group is sad, many of the people there are seeing 10 different readers what in the world!!!!! I mean I could find alot of better things to do with my money.

Yes I do feel people feel that the higher they pay and the ones that are on the front page are the best, when in my experience it hasnt been that case. ASide from that Janice you are getting old and tired, give it up! This is to out the the people that are doing wrong, not the company itself.

Remember Liveperson has medical experts, business, fashion, computers, etc

From what I see Janice you are doing nothing any different then they are, you have posted so many fake stories and screen names and although some of what you may say is true as from experience I know that Ladriele is all about money and wasnt accurate and of course she changes her stories alot....But why dont you just leave it be and move on with your life, you cannot seem to move on. That shows you have a mental problem...I wish you luck honey. And I dare you to throw any attacks at me, i am coming full force with alot of something to back up my mouth....

Why makes you think that what you are doing will do harm by these readers, dont you know eventually karma will come back around they will have their day. I guess I just dont like you because you are so negative and you go after everyone and everything is about you poor Janice and 53 year old woman that should know better. Sad very sad!
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Ok I admit....But still she is wacked!

AUTHOR: New York Yankee - (U.S.A.)

There are some fakes on liveperson, and lets just say some of them dont have real gifts they are more like advisors and counselors, But then you have the really generic ones that say all this stuff about this and that...But Janice isnt helping and caring about others, she is all for herself, can't everyone see. She spends a load of money on readings, even to this day..She has blogs and post all over the place, I mean all over the place, I did research on this woman, if you go through many sites of readers, you find her there, which is creepy as much as she is a psychic basher why is she still going to them? What she needs to do is go to a dating site or something and get herself a man...I am not taking up for anyone that is hurting or being unethical...But honey what may have not been good for you doesnt mean that its all the same for others, you are acting like a leader, when in reality you have serious issues, Who would follow you Janice? You are sick really and the yahoo group is sad, many of the people there are seeing 10 different readers what in the world!!!!! I mean I could find alot of better things to do with my money.

Yes I do feel people feel that the higher they pay and the ones that are on the front page are the best, when in my experience it hasnt been that case. ASide from that Janice you are getting old and tired, give it up! This is to out the the people that are doing wrong, not the company itself.

Remember Liveperson has medical experts, business, fashion, computers, etc

From what I see Janice you are doing nothing any different then they are, you have posted so many fake stories and screen names and although some of what you may say is true as from experience I know that Ladriele is all about money and wasnt accurate and of course she changes her stories alot....But why dont you just leave it be and move on with your life, you cannot seem to move on. That shows you have a mental problem...I wish you luck honey. And I dare you to throw any attacks at me, i am coming full force with alot of something to back up my mouth....

Why makes you think that what you are doing will do harm by these readers, dont you know eventually karma will come back around they will have their day. I guess I just dont like you because you are so negative and you go after everyone and everything is about you poor Janice and 53 year old woman that should know better. Sad very sad!
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Ok I admit....But still she is wacked!

AUTHOR: New York Yankee - (U.S.A.)

There are some fakes on liveperson, and lets just say some of them dont have real gifts they are more like advisors and counselors, But then you have the really generic ones that say all this stuff about this and that...But Janice isnt helping and caring about others, she is all for herself, can't everyone see. She spends a load of money on readings, even to this day..She has blogs and post all over the place, I mean all over the place, I did research on this woman, if you go through many sites of readers, you find her there, which is creepy as much as she is a psychic basher why is she still going to them? What she needs to do is go to a dating site or something and get herself a man...I am not taking up for anyone that is hurting or being unethical...But honey what may have not been good for you doesnt mean that its all the same for others, you are acting like a leader, when in reality you have serious issues, Who would follow you Janice? You are sick really and the yahoo group is sad, many of the people there are seeing 10 different readers what in the world!!!!! I mean I could find alot of better things to do with my money.

Yes I do feel people feel that the higher they pay and the ones that are on the front page are the best, when in my experience it hasnt been that case. ASide from that Janice you are getting old and tired, give it up! This is to out the the people that are doing wrong, not the company itself.

Remember Liveperson has medical experts, business, fashion, computers, etc

From what I see Janice you are doing nothing any different then they are, you have posted so many fake stories and screen names and although some of what you may say is true as from experience I know that Ladriele is all about money and wasnt accurate and of course she changes her stories alot....But why dont you just leave it be and move on with your life, you cannot seem to move on. That shows you have a mental problem...I wish you luck honey. And I dare you to throw any attacks at me, i am coming full force with alot of something to back up my mouth....

Why makes you think that what you are doing will do harm by these readers, dont you know eventually karma will come back around they will have their day. I guess I just dont like you because you are so negative and you go after everyone and everything is about you poor Janice and 53 year old woman that should know better. Sad very sad!
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We could all die of old age waiting for janice to "PROVE" anything

AUTHOR: Got Me - (Denmark)

Lets see I think we are going on 2 or 3 years now that Janice has been ranting on but has NEVER proven anything, never brought it out to the media, the papers......all she is is words typed in some dark little room by a very sick, angry litttle tiny almost human being

We could all die of old age waiting for "ANYTHING" Janice has said to come true.
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#7 Consumer Suggestion

BUMP

AUTHOR: Iris - (U.S.A.)

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#8 Consumer Comment

I agree Andrew..I have followed post for 3 years

AUTHOR: New York Yankee - (U.S.A.)

Hello, My name is Michelle.

Yes I am using my name I have nothing to hide nor to lie about. I was asked to stay out of this, but I want to add my .2.

I have been a client on Kasamba known as Liveperson now well former now. And I have used over 30 readers on the site. Around 2005 late, I found RIp off report and started following the post on the fraudulent readers. Well I was stick to my stomach, I was very sick because half the readers that were out on the list were readers I had used. Well here is my story I would like to share, I am 32 years old and I am a Court Aide In Nassau County in New York, where I was born and raised. I started seeking insight, around the time I fell in love with this married Lawyer that I was seeing. I guess I just needed reassurance that it would happen, us being together.

Well after a year of seeking advice from David James, and a few others, I was holding on to many different outcomes, Well let me fast forward, so I have had my account for 3 years and up until May 2008, I recently read a thread about Shining love and I tried her that is before all the negative things were posted. She was 100% accurate, without a shadow of a doubt this woman was spot on and after years of spending thousands of dollars this woman told me there is no more need for a reading with me, after she gave me that truth, I felt the heaviness lift from my heart, and I was able to move on. ASide from her David James told me to move on and Jennifer W who would not let hire, they told me to let go. I cannot say how those 3 helped me, not for repeat readings, not for spells, not to scam me, but they actually helped me and I am happy now, and at times I do want to reactivate my account and go back for readings but I opt not to. I wanted to point out with Janice is that in all her readings and with the Yahoo group she is bringing out many different allegations, some that can be far more painful at the end.

The thing were I dont understand is that in this case, looking at this I feel this isnt to help others, she is gaining pleasure off of the attention and the ones that follower her, this isnt to help others, its about her and her inner pain.
Its obvious that she is unstable, because at 53 you should be somewhere sailing the ocean with your husband and children. I do understand that some readers on the site are unethical and there are many that were not right for me at all, I wont go into that and list their names that isnt what I am here for. What I am here for is to point out that , legally Janice they will laugh at you. Entertainment purposes is written on many sites including Keen for the protection of lawsuits. Readings are not needs there are wants, so if you go and keep going then its your own fault.
I do feel that the group the weakguyonkasamba is a bunch of bull, I made an account there and posted, and I seen some of the stuff you pot there Janice. Well I know for fact at least 2 of the screen names are you.

I also see that many of the people that post there are current clients, that go back and forth reporting things about the site. One even admitted that she has been on the public boards she has a expert account, and she had calls , she has ratings. Now who is the fraud, Why with no gift or abilit to help one would you pose as an expert, and then the ratings speak for themselves this person had 1-2 stars and a couple of 4 stars in a straight line.

If you want to attack me then fine, cause you know who you are. I can hold my own. I am just saying that I wouldnt believe the stuff that is being posted on this site by Janice or any of her followers. You are what you hang with...that is how I see it.

Janice is obviously unhappy why would anyone give her the pleasure of feeding into her demented stories. I seriously doubt that anyone at her workplace knows this side of her. Helping is sharing your experience, not saying what who, how, and why someone said something. She looks up info about individuals and manipulate innocent women with no backbone into sharing their transcripts to share information and compare transcripts. I doubt that half are even clients....

She and her followers are trying to sabotage the ethics and business readers as Andrew said, she isnt helping. Again I am here to share my experiences. My worst experiences was with a expert that is no longer on Liveperson and charged me 20 a min, I dont fault him, I was the fool that went there and spent my money. You dont see me bashing him, I moved on.

Being able to let go and dwelling on things, show alot about your mental state. I do feel Janice has issues, while she is sharing all these loads of info, you should turn and see what the real issue is about. She doesnt care about anyone. And before you know it all experts will have a problem, it wont be just a few ou tof the bunch, she'll be after them all, with the help of her followers.


Many of the people on weakguyon kasamba, even say I dont know how David James or Shining love knew this and that, and that couldnt be fake no sharing info, doesnt take much to know when someone is the same or sharing, well they are not! and I am a true client that knows that for a fact!!!!!!!!! If you are not a believer then stop seeking readings and move on with the Faith of God! My take Get over it Janice and move on, stop it, I dont like anything that you post! And I am not going to be winged into your net of lies and pathiec allegations, even with your proof I question that..... Your post are getting bored and sad. THis isnt high school.

My experience is just that, and I dont care alot for Janice she is working against what is right, but causing even more Chaos in the world / Get help, and you dont need it from a psychic help many dont, they need professional help.

Thank you for listening to my story.
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#9 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Give it a BREAK Janice

AUTHOR: Got Me - (Denmark)

If you would work on your so called "report" instead of posting on ROR your lengthy boring rants maybe someone would actually see some progress?? Still waiting, 2 yrs later, still nothing......oh excuse me you said 14 months in a previous post,.........long time, hell you could have a baby by then if you had ever married........
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#10 Author of original report

Give it a rest-

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

Andrew you said:

"Janice, I can't make a diagnosis because I'm not a doctor, but I feel that you're disturbed, and angry that you allowed yourself to become addicted to psychics. This isn't a psychic explanation, just a common sense one. If you would like to get to the root of this anger, I would be happy to help you".

1. I am not 'angry', I get angry. there is a difference.
2. I have a reasonable knowledge of the model of addiction and it is highly misused. The optimal use is to assist people with mood altering drug problems achieve and maintain absinence. There is a large body of evidence however that shows that not ALL people who use mood altering substances become dependent. Moreover, most people who use recreational substances dO NOT become addicts. I can quote population studies but they are easy to find on medline.

3. The old perve z did use the same photo on the sexsite AND on one of his Keen profiles. It is in the group files. It is funny the the profile vanished 5 minutes after I told him that I knew about it. I have dated screenshots to prove this.
4. I have always believed people have the 'gift' as I have accurate readings in the past.The frauds hide behind a facade of respectabiliy and legitimacy. I admit one of the drawcards for me was that they had other services such as counsellors on the site. I now know they do not check the credentials of counsellors or physicians as well as utilise other practices to defarud clients. Yes, I can and will prove it.

5. I was at a vulnerable stage in my life as I had just come home from what I knew was my last extended holiday for sometime as I need to look after my father. The frauds only talent, I now know, is to identify vlunerable people and bleed them dry. Vulnerability is not a personality deficit butthose people who defraud people have significant personality 'issues'. Actually, on second thought, they are just plain bad.

I am not ashamed of anything I have done. Like many others I was ripped off. That is not a reflection of my personality traits it is a an indication that these people are immoral frauds.

Really, your passive agressive approach leave me cold.

6. I have heard the 'blame the victim' analyses so many times. But you know it has always been from frauds or other unethical people. Believe me I am getting to the root of this so called anger and have actually found a 'cure' - exactly what I am doing now.
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#11 Consumer Comment

BTW Andrew you are doing the ONE thing I avoid at all costs

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

Bring in to this the legitimate experts. A couple of the experts that you mentioned are legitimate and I don't have any information about the others so as far as I am concerned they are NOT frauds unless proven otherwise.

It seems as though you have some perverse agenda yourself. But that doesn't surprise me as you have really creepy energy.
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#12 Author of original report

Ok Andrew

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

1. Firstly it was Master Z. He uses the same picture on one of his Keen profiles. I can prove it. You know what, it is funny that the profile suddenly dusappeared five minutes after I informed perve z of its existance. I have dated screenshots to prove it.

2. Your post drips of sarcasm-not a good look for a therapist

3. I have ALWAYS maintained that I believe in the ability and I believe there are legitimate psychics but the company practices are facilitating and supporting the fraud

4. I am not an 'angry' person I get angry. There is a difference. I, and many other ripped of clients, have heard the blame the victim' excuse over and over again. That is exactly what it is-an excuse.

5. How would you like it if your personal details were spread all over a site like this and twisted into what amounts to defamation. I have NEVER worked with drugs per se, I do NOT have access to patient files. I use data from the clinical trials register, meta analyses etc etc and I would be the last person the australian government would trust with anything techical or computer related because I did not inherit my fathers technical ability. I am still on the phone redularly to the help-desk of the company that sold me my laptop trying to find my way around Vista -almost a year later.

6. I thought it was me until I realised that there are many, many clients who have experienced the same as I and that, plus my innate curiosity started all this.

7. I don't need a shrink or a counsellor. I went to one after I realised I was conned and he told me I did not have a psychiatric illness and that it was a normal reaction.

8. You do not apprear to be a very good bet for a counsellor of any kind because you, like everyone else have made a diagnosis without aplly the appropriate diagnostic tests.

9. Only people with shall we say 'agendas' have ever judged me in this manner. The other ripped of clients think I should brawl less and work more and they are right. I am going to listen to them and get back to work on the weekend.

10. I know all about the concept of 'addiction' from previous research that I have conducted and while is it applicable in some circumstances, it is highly mis-used.

11. I work with highly skilled mental health therpaists because my work is with people with chronic respiratory diseases. If you look at the current statistics you will see the the prevalence rates of mental health problems in people with chronic diseases is approximately five times the unipolar point of healthy controls and significantly increases disability. If you don't belive me look at the current stats from the WHO, your CDC, your health department etc. The design of approriate disease management programs need to include a mental health component in order to reach maximum efficacy. the litertaure is clear on this matter.

12. My point is that no legitimate mental health professional would EVER make any diagnosis without implementing the appropriate diagnostic tests. Moreover, this is stated on the websites of the APA and APS. I am aware of the Canadian mental health system and it is similiar to that in all developed countries.

13. Augusta, I apologise if it seemed as though you got dragged into this. It is the person who wrote these posts that needs a shrink. I am going to sue for defamation because the person that wrote this also wrote the latest posts but NOT until I finish what I am doing with this project. The reason is simply the time factor-I have only so many hours in the day and the statute of limitations allows me to put it off for awhile. I will win, of course because it only takes a few pices of paper to prove he allegations are false. I asked her for proff, but guess what, she could never produce any evidence to substantiate her claims. I, on the other hand, can and will produce evidence to prove that her intention was to defame me.

Andrew, IF I seek counselling again in my life (and it is highly likely as life is full of ups and downs and they provide clarity) you would be the last person on earth whom I would consult. It is simply unprofessional to make any judgements or evaluations of any aspect of someone's mental health without the use of proper evaulation procedures. Obviously these need to be administered on a one-to-one basis and you give me the creeps so i wouldn't be coming anywhere near you.
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#13 Consumer Comment

I agree

AUTHOR: Augusta - (U.S.A.)

Janice - my post was in agreement with yours - the consumer (we clients) are the ones paying for the service and have been very disappointed with the complete lack of accuracy - so the money and time and hope wasted is terrible. It's not as if things come about in about 70% of the predictions - it is zilch, nada, nothing and this is after several years. Or the opposite, or the completely wrong info which leads one down a different path. These are terrible things and I do agree with you on this issue. Any site who sells only un-checked psychics is really not a good place to go for hidden info - a site dedicated to giving some information, articles and so forth, and then offer up a few checked out psychics would be a much better bet and one that is in the "business" of offering a real service.
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#14 UPDATE Employee

No Psychiatric Issues here

AUTHOR: Andrew - (Canada)

I was so tempted to just read the Ripoff Reports and have a laugh about them, but I feel that when individuals such as the lovely Janice post what has been posted, as well as all the follow-ups, it can't go unnoticed.

Believe me, I would LOVE to see all the fraudulant experts removed. Regarding Master Z, I saw the S&M Website of that name, and are you sure that it's the same guy? Not only is Master Z the Psychic from a different CITY than Master Z the dominatrix (or equivalent term for men), but one would think he would try and hide his secret identity. In any case, I haven't had a reading with him, so I can say nothing about his legitimacy.

David James, there is a true, genuine soul with a caring spirit that is wonderful with readings.

Phoebe Rose is a wonderful young lady who has proven time and time again to be accurate and thoughtful.

Psychic lessons in love is another fantastic reader.

Melodie has quite a large client base, and has shown accuracy in most of her reviews.

I am the same way, I strive for excellence, and I encourage clients not to rate until the predictions come true, and guess what? They'll come back a few weeks later and rate because they HAVE come true.

Janice, I can't make a diagnosis because I'm not a doctor, but I feel that you're disturbed, and angry that you allowed yourself to become addicted to psychics. This isn't a psychic explanation, just a common sense one. If you would like to get to the root of this anger, I would be happy to help you. And also, I thank your father for his wonderful service to the USA, and being from Canada, we certainly benefitted from it as well :)
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#15 Consumer Suggestion

Senior Researcher Adelaide, Australian Dr. Janice Duffy is Stalking Psychics Online

AUTHOR: Dr. Jake - (U.S.A.)

Please see my post "Dr. Janice Duffy Senior Researcher Dr. Janice Duffy Psychic Stalker from the Respiratory Function Unit, Repatriation General Hospital, Adelaide, South Australia". I have listed her name, address and phone number for any psychic that is wishing to take her to court for destroying their business and for ruining your good name and reputation. She is also guilty of stalking psychics. Janice has been posting fake and faulty rip off reports about psychics here and is out to destroy any psychic that she can possibly get her hands on. I wanted to give psychics a good look at what kind of person they are dealing with. Adelaide, Australia Dr. Janice Duffy is a 52 year old woman that gets psychic readings over and over again even though she is contantly bashing them here on rip off report. She has been banned from Kasamba/Liveperson and she doesn't care who she hurts. All that she wants to do is hurt psychics by trying to destroy their business. She doesn't have the guts to say anything to your face in person! All that she does is sits behind a computer screen and makes up lies and more lies. She posts transcripts of psychic readings and thinks that she is justified in doing so. She is a very sick woman. Protect yourselves by learning more about her by reading the above rip off report. Get the information that you need to defend yourself if she goes on a rampage and attacks you and your business as she has already done to so many psychics online. It's one thing to write something about getting ripped off. However, Janice goes well beyond that. She instead harrasses psychics by writing things about them that are not true over and over again. She is a mentally sick person. If you have been stalked by Dr. Janice Duffy, you will know what I mean. She will not stop and stalkers never do. It's almost a sickness and it makes the victims life a living panic. The only thing that I can tell you is that you have her contact information in the above post. If you find that you need it to stop her from harrassing you, then please use it. It's here for your own protection. She wants you to feel sorry for her and say poor Janice. However, many psychics here on this forum have tried to help her and she only says nasty things to them over and over again and makes it clear that she is out to "get you". Read up on stalkers and you will see that the only thing that you can do with a stalker is to take them to court and have them legally stopped.
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#16 Author of original report

Augusta-I don't mean to sound harsh towards you

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

I really don't but the only way to protect the consumer is on this one is to get the company.

With all due respect, it is really easy to criticise me or make jusdgments about what I have or have not done. The reality is that this has taken many hours a week for 14 months.Then their is the abuse, the sabotage . My GP told me this morning to walk away because of the effect on my physical health. I won't do that but I am going to work to bring this to a close and be finished with it.

This next comment is not dorected at you but I am so over all the idiots who make jusdgements, engage in attemped manipulations, spread my details and endanger my family and make the most stupid judgements about my mental health. The only way to moveon from this is to finish it, disseminate it and walk away.
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#17 Author of original report

Honestly Augusta I know that but the company is cooking the books

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

You are right Augusta but what is happening is this. The frauds are given preferential treatment. They are changing practices to support this i.e. spells are now called a 'service', ratings in which clients try to warn other clients are removed, the rating system pushes the frauds up and the legitimate ones down the 'hierarchy'. Moreover, they take out and publically execute anyone (like Iris) who dares to speak up too loudly in order to quell any potential dissent. Oldest trick in the capitalist book-hang a few of the leaders and shut the rest up.

Now they tack IP addresses-i know because they tracked mine today-I tried a little experiement and they can and do track IP adresses (but scrambler programs are like $30USD :))

It gets worse. Once they used to just remove profiles or put a blank face on them. Now they put in red 'expert not available, or away until...whatever). I know this because i was checking some profiles today AND it looks like the profile that I used as an expert is active (and just on holidays-whatever), I can log in, send an email, download the communication suite, but that's it. If I try to open the communication suite or get into the experts section I am blocked.

Why do they do this. Well, they don't HAVE 30,000 EXPERTS but it appears that they are trying to match the profits with the number of experts. So if an expert is in 5 clusters they are counted as 5 experts plus all the blocked and obsolete profiles are made to look active but on holidays). Therefore they match up the numbers.

Yes, I can prove this. I have screenshots of profiles that were not used because the expert skipped town with the clients money and profiles the obviously belonged to another expert, Matchman Aquiya's for example, for months it is a blank face (after having her picture on it-Dalia - she had several profile names but it is the same one as she uses a combination of those names on another site sudenly it says she is on holidays.

Also I took screen shots of the step by step process of trying to get in to the expert account that was banned. When it was baned it said account restricted as soon as I tried to enter, now it looks like it is active but it is not.

I will post some examples on a file in the group but it won't be for a day or so but by the weekend.

Honestly, that is all I am going to focus on now, writing up the section on how the company manipulates the practices. I have enough examples of frauds and I am TIRED. I want to finish this and move on because I am exhausted beyond belief. It cannot go on forever. I cannot go on forever doing this. The support of a few people has kept this going but the abuse, coupled with the amount of work has worn me down.

The group we have is wonderful-no stress, lots of good ideas, offers to help etc. I keep posting here and will keep posting when i load files and that is the best I can do. A couple more files will go up later in the week and I have started the final section on how the company facilitates the frauds but I have to draw the line somewher and just keep doing the work.

The thing is it is bad and it amazes me because that would never happen here as we have strong systems of accountability in the workplace. Contract workers have rights. You just about have to be a mass murderer to be sacked here. It is amazing how they get away with it. It is so obvious what they are doing. But it can't go on-clients are being hurt, the legitimate experts are shoved aside. I think people should be able to see a psychic-I believe in the talent because I have experienced a couple that were right but they didn't make outrageous claims like pay me $2,200 for a bit of tin that will change your life.

I sometimes think i should have walked away from this a long time ago but I am stubborn and I believe in a 'fair go' so it is my choice but it is at the point whereI just have to keep doing it and try to minimise the stress. Luckily this group is so peaceful and positive yet has members who have the best minds and can speak them or just hang back and look at the information without abusing me.

Abuse is unecessary and tiring and I would rather work than get caught in one playground brawl after another so that is what I am going to do. I won't hurt someone who was ethical, honest and treated me with respect at a time when I was in a really bad place. Anyone is welcome to post what they wish in the group but the thing is I believe a kindness is repayed a thousand times and so is an attempt to hurt someone. There were so few then and now and I will not hurt, even by association, anyone like that. KU stay out of the report. I am also removing Andrea, but leaving in the others. I got a different take on the situation recently after that post about my work was rehashed.

As the files go up it is apparant the amount of work involved and I want this over but not before I get evidence of the company practices into the right hands.
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The bottom line is the consumer

AUTHOR: Augusta - (U.S.A.)

I support any effort to vet those experts on LP - and let consumers know the real deal. If the company chooses not to, and allows the consumers under false pretenses to part with their money and also to get "psychic" advice which is either scripted, shared or a lie - then any information that could expose this is most welcome and may help future consumers. Too many have been taken for a ride and the fact that the psychic industry is so under regulated, and under monitored - it may be just the time for someone to take a real look and hold those accountable who are part of a conscious scam.
When I get a read - I would like to know that the person is actually who they say they are in their bio - and have the skills. Then based on the price I will make a decision. No more skewed feedback, false skills, false pics and so forth.
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#19 Author of original report

I did the work I say what goes in the report period

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

I did the research. It has taken up a great deal of my free time for the past year. It was my choice and I am so gratefull for the assistance of the few people who have provided input . The company is the problem. There is enough examples of frauds in the report to show EVERYTHING that goes on there.

The bottom line is that I did the work and I WILL NOT, even by association, hurt the one regualar psychic that I saw who did not rip me off or blame and abuse me when I crashed emotionally.

The other frauds who think they can get away with it are wrong and yes, in some cases, it is personal. I am going to twist the knife in them a little harder. An yes, it is personal.

People who do not do researh have no idea of what is involved in order to do it properly. This has been made clear by the attitudes of most people here. However, those who have seen the report and the group members who have seen just a fraction of the report (but will gradually get to see it all as I load bits and pieces) have an idea of how much has gone into it and how it all fits together.

IT IS MY IDEA, MY WORK, MY TIME AND I HAVE THE FINAL DECSION ON ANY ASPECT OF IT. I HAVE A COPYRIGHT ON IT. I KNOW HOW TO DO RESEARCH AND I HAVE BEEN SEVERAL CLIENTS AND ONE EXPERT IN THE PAST YEAR AND I HAVE THE PROOF THAT IS NEEDED TO SHOW THAT THE COMPANY IS ENGAGING IN A MYSIAD OF ILLEGAL PRACTICES AND, MOREOVER IT IS GETTING WORSE. I HAVE THAT ASPECT OF IT TO RE-DRAFT BUT THE DISSEMINATION PROCESS HAS STARTED.

THE TREATMENT I RECIEVED BY THE FRAUDS AT LIVEPERSON, BY THE COMPANY AND BY A LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO POST HERE HAS SHOWN ME A LEVEL OF EVIL THAT I HONESTLY DID NOT THINK EXISTED IN HUMAN NATURE. I APPRECIATE THOSE WHO A RE HONEST AND KIND EVEN MORE. NICOLA IS ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE.

THERE WILL BE NO MENTION OF KU OR ANYONE SUPPOSEDLY CONNECTED TO IT IN THE REPORT, INCLUDING ROBIN.

THAT IS MY DECISON AND IT IS NON-NEGOTIABLE.
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Your right Iris, they are meaningless rants

AUTHOR: Got Me - (Denmark)

Your right on Iris, they are longgggggggggggggg meaningless rants full of vile and darkness
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#21 Author of original report

Sometimes you can't see the forest for the trees but it is good now :)

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

Yes, I know what you mean. But I am sick to death of denials that the company is doing anything wrong by the frauds. I decided to suss out some of the so called medical experts on the weekend. I emailed them. I cannot use the service in that I cannot put any money in it (and really I have done all of that research that I need) but I can create a login. I told them that LP do not check credentials and that they lie on the advertising. One counsellor started bleating about 'informed consumers' yet she purported to be an expert in counseeling people who were depressed and listed herself as compassionate. I took screenshots.

Then I was looking at the physicians and one listed so many specialties that he waould have to be 150 to complete the necessary post grad qualifications. He looked under 40. The medical profession does not work like that-anywhere but the 'Back of Burke' (Aussie term for remote areas where medicos have to be multiskilled but are usually at lower level of competancy than is expected to be termed an expert. He wanted to charge me $100. I was furious.

So, today I wrote to the peak medical bodies in the USA. I was looking at the AMA website and one of their major concerns is the practice of individuals or groups of individuals that are 'renegade' because, well their malpractice premiums would go through the roof.

The upshot is that I have tracked down the appropriate person (who happens to live in New Orleons - I couldn't resist it, I told him about Fruno (Tax Tribunal Judge by day, fraud by night). I say appropriate because he is a key player in both the AMA, APA and involed in the ethics area and goes to government etc. I didn't give the name of the company but I told him how I could prove they don't check credentials, about the psychics, the sorts of frauds the company engage in (like how they make thier profit match up with the number of experts they don't have.

Iris you know the numbers and you know the profile. Well, it still exists and LOOKS like it is active and I can get as far as downloading the communication suite. But then it won't let me in. So you see that is how they 'cook the books'. they no longer leave blank faces. they make the obsolete and banned profile APPEAR to be operational but the user can't use it. I took dated screenshots of the whole process, of course.

Anyway, the bottom line is that the company have a disclaimer. The ONLY way to get them is on false advertising and corporate fraud. No offence but psychics don't have the organisational backing of the physicians. I wrote from work, sent him a link to our latest academic journal paper, told him that either they supported us or it was the gutter press and the medical insurance companies because I was sick to death of it all.

If the aim is to get the company, and it always was, it cannot be done by just the psychic section. However, I have made it quite clear that this will not just be a medical issue. I own the copyright to the report and it goes out with a focus on the reprehensible practices of the company as they apply to all catagories.

I am NOT going to let the psychic fraud slip through the net because of the prevailing views. When I first started this I had a few email conversations with the famous skeptic (and his name escapes me because I am very tired) - James-someone. He said find another way rather than just the psychic fraud and I hadn't a chance in hell if it was located outside the USA. But the issue was I had to think of another way first and that meant getting to know how things worked, who were frauds, how they did it. I honestly didn't know-then.

I am still at work as I did something strange to my laptop and Dell will fix it tomorrow but an email came through just after I was updating the group and it was a reply from the person asking me if I could speak with him on the computer....errr yes...as soon as the Dell sorts out the little windex instead of computer cleaner problem..that has made the keys jam up (it is a super lightweight laptop). There are some words in the english language that attract attention. Psychics ain't one of them but malpractice insurance is.

So I will talk with him and mimi and got me and all the others will finally get their wish because he is a psychiatrist (roflmao). He covers ethics for the peak mental health and medical organisations. I still have that last section on the frauds to redraft and I am out of energy right now so I am just putting all the extra evidence on a file and then I will sit down for 2 days and rewrite it. Meanwhile I will load files into the group. I refuse to put a timeline on this because I can't. All I can say is that it is nearly done and at the point where the group and others, as you know have been discussing dissemination strategies.

I said to the psychiatrist that I was going to the media and they could either support me or not but if they didn't I would go to the insurance companies instead. This is called blackmail. However, I am tired, I want this over and I want my life back. None of the idiots know the amount of work involved. But you know the clients in the group have made me fell like it was all worthwhile.

As for KU. Well, Iris, I have the greatest respect for you and I like you a hell of a lot:) but I won't back down on that one. No-one is perfect. You know the challenges anyone who was/is there for any period of time faced from the organisation. I am NOT going to damn them when there are frauds like Master Z and Powerful Visions and Fruno and Ru -and that creature Angels for You. She lives about 500 miles from me and I am sure I can feel her bad energ. She is probably at home with a bottle of scotch and a book on curses cooking up something for someone right now. I know next wek it will be me because I will put the complete history of her fraud in the files in the group.

But the point is that they may not be perfect, but early on I checked the transcripts from my 1 session with Robin and several with Nicola and they were opposite (and done around the same time). I see things from a different view because of our national history which is premised on the struggle for workers' rights. But I looked at all the posts on or by Robin and the rest early on and it is clear they were really trying to facilitate better working conditions and there is NOTHING wrong with that.

The bottom line is (and I don't usually play favourites) and I have confonted and been abused by all the ones the ripped me off. Nicola was the only one who not only didn't rip me off but didn't cut me off and there is no way in the world I will ever forget that. It was a horrible time and she was the only one of the regulars who didn't abuse me when I confronted them all.

I have had no contact with either of them since before I started this or ever had a readiing with the others (except for Sedali) supposedly in KU but I am not going to chop down the tall poppies when there are peopel like powerful. Think about it Iris. What will make more impact? Master Z on a Liveperson advertisment for love and then in the hardcore abuse sex site screenshots followed by Powerful visions, the company supported criminal at $16.00 a minute, RuTheSourcerer and the other spell mongers, Sandina and the email from LP denying an obvious case of multiple profiles, Fruno, Tax Judge by Day, dirty old fraud by night.

The reason for compiling examples of fraud was just that. To show the types of frauds that occur. The real crux is to show the company not only knows about it and covers it up, but facilitates it by changing it's workplace practices. The company has increased the potential for clients to be defrauded and this can be proved. They lie in their advertisments about the qualifications of their health experts and this can be proven. I have countless email from them banning me (or whatever login I was using) because they said I broke the conditions of use by pointing out the fraud to them. What is wrong with that picture?

So I have calmed down and focussed. Pity, because I love shooting the hostages (for entertainment purposes only of course and I can cut and paste a whole lot quicker when I am really angry :). Honestly, as far as KU goes, they are not very newsworthy and there is not the dramatic evidence like there is on master z PV and the rest. They are kinda too normal, too nondescript compared to perve z and Fruno and that rediculous photo. The point was always to use the most reprehensible frauds, especially those on the front page to show HOW LIVEPERSON MANIPULATES THINGS TO ENSNARE CLIENTS.

Iris, I know you are as ethical as they come. But even if you were bent you wouldn't be bent enough for a feature spot in the report-your too normal. The best strategy is to focus attention on what the company facilitates and compare that to the real experts who look kinda normal. That is why I included ssome of those back page people with obvious stolen photographs and $100 spells - to give a cross section and compare it with the normal psychics like you and Nicola etc.

Besides, I have proof that the company cover up fraud of the cash cows-recent proof-post aquisition proof - emails denying it and banning me (again and again and again). There is enough proof of the reprehensible company practices and I am NOT going to hurt two ethical women, even by association. I won't do it. I particularly won't hurt Nicola. She was the ONLY one who didn't try to turn things on me. After more than 2 years of this whole nightmare and abuse and hard work I stuck to what I said I would do at the outset and there are only a handfull of people who didn't abuse me in some way. In fact, this new group is amazing-some really great people.

Clients, it is not like this board. It is casual, and has a good vibe. A member even found an expert who is using the singer Robbie Williams picture-and getting clients...lol..I thought I might dob him in to LP support but I might leave that pleasure to another client for the moment because I would have to create an email and most of the logins I have used to confont the doctors don't even have an email attached-why bother. But yes, currently Robbie Williams is moonlighting on Liveperson. But you know what. He seems to have lost a lot of weght in the last week since i saw his picture in the latest trash mag at the hairdressers - about 30 lbs.

So don't worry, Iris, I am assembling the new evidence to go into the last section, and sorting out the best way to disseminate it. I tried to get LP to take notice of the research several times. However, they won't which is stupid because they are doing too many illegal things and medical associations will not allow anyone to bring their profession into disrepute or jack up their insurance.
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Sometimes you can't see the forest for the trees but it is good now :)

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

Yes, I know what you mean. But I am sick to death of denials that the company is doing anything wrong by the frauds. I decided to suss out some of the so called medical experts on the weekend. I emailed them. I cannot use the service in that I cannot put any money in it (and really I have done all of that research that I need) but I can create a login. I told them that LP do not check credentials and that they lie on the advertising. One counsellor started bleating about 'informed consumers' yet she purported to be an expert in counseeling people who were depressed and listed herself as compassionate. I took screenshots.

Then I was looking at the physicians and one listed so many specialties that he waould have to be 150 to complete the necessary post grad qualifications. He looked under 40. The medical profession does not work like that-anywhere but the 'Back of Burke' (Aussie term for remote areas where medicos have to be multiskilled but are usually at lower level of competancy than is expected to be termed an expert. He wanted to charge me $100. I was furious.

So, today I wrote to the peak medical bodies in the USA. I was looking at the AMA website and one of their major concerns is the practice of individuals or groups of individuals that are 'renegade' because, well their malpractice premiums would go through the roof.

The upshot is that I have tracked down the appropriate person (who happens to live in New Orleons - I couldn't resist it, I told him about Fruno (Tax Tribunal Judge by day, fraud by night). I say appropriate because he is a key player in both the AMA, APA and involed in the ethics area and goes to government etc. I didn't give the name of the company but I told him how I could prove they don't check credentials, about the psychics, the sorts of frauds the company engage in (like how they make thier profit match up with the number of experts they don't have.

Iris you know the numbers and you know the profile. Well, it still exists and LOOKS like it is active and I can get as far as downloading the communication suite. But then it won't let me in. So you see that is how they 'cook the books'. they no longer leave blank faces. they make the obsolete and banned profile APPEAR to be operational but the user can't use it. I took dated screenshots of the whole process, of course.

Anyway, the bottom line is that the company have a disclaimer. The ONLY way to get them is on false advertising and corporate fraud. No offence but psychics don't have the organisational backing of the physicians. I wrote from work, sent him a link to our latest academic journal paper, told him that either they supported us or it was the gutter press and the medical insurance companies because I was sick to death of it all.

If the aim is to get the company, and it always was, it cannot be done by just the psychic section. However, I have made it quite clear that this will not just be a medical issue. I own the copyright to the report and it goes out with a focus on the reprehensible practices of the company as they apply to all catagories.

I am NOT going to let the psychic fraud slip through the net because of the prevailing views. When I first started this I had a few email conversations with the famous skeptic (and his name escapes me because I am very tired) - James-someone. He said find another way rather than just the psychic fraud and I hadn't a chance in hell if it was located outside the USA. But the issue was I had to think of another way first and that meant getting to know how things worked, who were frauds, how they did it. I honestly didn't know-then.

I am still at work as I did something strange to my laptop and Dell will fix it tomorrow but an email came through just after I was updating the group and it was a reply from the person asking me if I could speak with him on the computer....errr yes...as soon as the Dell sorts out the little windex instead of computer cleaner problem..that has made the keys jam up (it is a super lightweight laptop). There are some words in the english language that attract attention. Psychics ain't one of them but malpractice insurance is.

So I will talk with him and mimi and got me and all the others will finally get their wish because he is a psychiatrist (roflmao). He covers ethics for the peak mental health and medical organisations. I still have that last section on the frauds to redraft and I am out of energy right now so I am just putting all the extra evidence on a file and then I will sit down for 2 days and rewrite it. Meanwhile I will load files into the group. I refuse to put a timeline on this because I can't. All I can say is that it is nearly done and at the point where the group and others, as you know have been discussing dissemination strategies.

I said to the psychiatrist that I was going to the media and they could either support me or not but if they didn't I would go to the insurance companies instead. This is called blackmail. However, I am tired, I want this over and I want my life back. None of the idiots know the amount of work involved. But you know the clients in the group have made me fell like it was all worthwhile.

As for KU. Well, Iris, I have the greatest respect for you and I like you a hell of a lot:) but I won't back down on that one. No-one is perfect. You know the challenges anyone who was/is there for any period of time faced from the organisation. I am NOT going to damn them when there are frauds like Master Z and Powerful Visions and Fruno and Ru -and that creature Angels for You. She lives about 500 miles from me and I am sure I can feel her bad energ. She is probably at home with a bottle of scotch and a book on curses cooking up something for someone right now. I know next wek it will be me because I will put the complete history of her fraud in the files in the group.

But the point is that they may not be perfect, but early on I checked the transcripts from my 1 session with Robin and several with Nicola and they were opposite (and done around the same time). I see things from a different view because of our national history which is premised on the struggle for workers' rights. But I looked at all the posts on or by Robin and the rest early on and it is clear they were really trying to facilitate better working conditions and there is NOTHING wrong with that.

The bottom line is (and I don't usually play favourites) and I have confonted and been abused by all the ones the ripped me off. Nicola was the only one who not only didn't rip me off but didn't cut me off and there is no way in the world I will ever forget that. It was a horrible time and she was the only one of the regulars who didn't abuse me when I confronted them all.

I have had no contact with either of them since before I started this or ever had a readiing with the others (except for Sedali) supposedly in KU but I am not going to chop down the tall poppies when there are peopel like powerful. Think about it Iris. What will make more impact? Master Z on a Liveperson advertisment for love and then in the hardcore abuse sex site screenshots followed by Powerful visions, the company supported criminal at $16.00 a minute, RuTheSourcerer and the other spell mongers, Sandina and the email from LP denying an obvious case of multiple profiles, Fruno, Tax Judge by Day, dirty old fraud by night.

The reason for compiling examples of fraud was just that. To show the types of frauds that occur. The real crux is to show the company not only knows about it and covers it up, but facilitates it by changing it's workplace practices. The company has increased the potential for clients to be defrauded and this can be proved. They lie in their advertisments about the qualifications of their health experts and this can be proven. I have countless email from them banning me (or whatever login I was using) because they said I broke the conditions of use by pointing out the fraud to them. What is wrong with that picture?

So I have calmed down and focussed. Pity, because I love shooting the hostages (for entertainment purposes only of course and I can cut and paste a whole lot quicker when I am really angry :). Honestly, as far as KU goes, they are not very newsworthy and there is not the dramatic evidence like there is on master z PV and the rest. They are kinda too normal, too nondescript compared to perve z and Fruno and that rediculous photo. The point was always to use the most reprehensible frauds, especially those on the front page to show HOW LIVEPERSON MANIPULATES THINGS TO ENSNARE CLIENTS.

Iris, I know you are as ethical as they come. But even if you were bent you wouldn't be bent enough for a feature spot in the report-your too normal. The best strategy is to focus attention on what the company facilitates and compare that to the real experts who look kinda normal. That is why I included ssome of those back page people with obvious stolen photographs and $100 spells - to give a cross section and compare it with the normal psychics like you and Nicola etc.

Besides, I have proof that the company cover up fraud of the cash cows-recent proof-post aquisition proof - emails denying it and banning me (again and again and again). There is enough proof of the reprehensible company practices and I am NOT going to hurt two ethical women, even by association. I won't do it. I particularly won't hurt Nicola. She was the ONLY one who didn't try to turn things on me. After more than 2 years of this whole nightmare and abuse and hard work I stuck to what I said I would do at the outset and there are only a handfull of people who didn't abuse me in some way. In fact, this new group is amazing-some really great people.

Clients, it is not like this board. It is casual, and has a good vibe. A member even found an expert who is using the singer Robbie Williams picture-and getting clients...lol..I thought I might dob him in to LP support but I might leave that pleasure to another client for the moment because I would have to create an email and most of the logins I have used to confont the doctors don't even have an email attached-why bother. But yes, currently Robbie Williams is moonlighting on Liveperson. But you know what. He seems to have lost a lot of weght in the last week since i saw his picture in the latest trash mag at the hairdressers - about 30 lbs.

So don't worry, Iris, I am assembling the new evidence to go into the last section, and sorting out the best way to disseminate it. I tried to get LP to take notice of the research several times. However, they won't which is stupid because they are doing too many illegal things and medical associations will not allow anyone to bring their profession into disrepute or jack up their insurance.
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#23 Consumer Comment

Stay focused, Janice! LivePerson is the target.

AUTHOR: Iris - (U.S.A.)

You know I am totally in support of your efforts regarding exposing the rampant fraud on LivePerson, and being an advocate for the victims of fake psychics, along with the lack of ethics and professional business practices at LivePerson.

When you get defensive and agitated, your writing becomes incoherent and makes you appear less intelligent than I know you to be. Stop allowing certain people to push your buttons, and stop responding the way you do. Keep your eye on the goal. When you post lengthy rants, it makes it hard for people who don't know you to take you seriously. It reduces or eliminates your credibility.

You have to make sure that what you write is clear and concise. I am concerned that the report will appear disjointed and as coming from someone who is unstable. This is partly due to your apparent dyslexia and inability to keep your comments and thoughts focused. It is imperative that people take this report seriously. You might want to consider getting a copy editor to help you organize it better. Your heart is in the right place. You have good intentions. I don't want this effort dismissed due to your outbursts against silly, meritless posts.

I encourage everyone to join your Yahoo group, to demonstrate that there IS a sharing of information on LivePerson/Kasamba, that sessions are pre-scripted, etc. The best course of action here is for the class action lawsuit to go forward. Only then can justice truly be served. If litigants are worldwide, LivePerson will have no choice but to refund everyone's money to avoid bad press and a nosedive of their stock.

You have shown me transcripts that absolutely nauseated me, when I realized that I had received the IDENTICAL reading from some of these so-called psychics. Sometimes it was word-for-word.

As a side note, I am concerned that you have absolved KU (Kasamba Utopia) of any wrongdoing. I have evidence that they do share client information, and do have a "bad client" list in their group. They are as corrupt as LivePerson.

Janice, please stay focused. You have invested a lot of time and energy into building this case and gathering information. It is no small task and I applaud your perseverance and tenacity. So do not allow the Mimi's and GotMe's of the world to derail you. They are both of questionable clarity of thought.

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#24 Author of original report

BTW Mimi, I checked with a psychic

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

And she said your problem was that you are an illiterate, souless, shrew with no soul and even less intelligence.

You want to debate with me. Then come on and I will outthink you every time.

I am sick to stomach of you scrags who try to hurt people when they are down and get you kicks from writing abusive comments about people with legitimate complaints against a company that is so bent it lies about checking the credentials of health professionals.

What part of dangerous and unethical do you not understand?

You want to debate with me. Come on. I will take you on her or in any forum and I will out think you time and time again.

You hit me or some othe client I will come back ten times harder and use it as motivation to finish what I started.

Tell me Mimi, which doctor gave you that diagnosis. What methods of psychological evaluation did he or she use.

I ask these questions because of course, because you are intelligent enough to know the difference between diagnosis in a primary care setting and a psychiatric diagnosis.

Please provide:

The Doctor's qualifications;

The diagnostic process he or she used;

Did the doctor diagnose any comorbid mental health conditions (i assume you know what I am talking about) because of course they would know which are the most common and which of those i could have and why.

You're just another stupid scrag but come on take me on in a debate. I'll tell you what. For every point that you win I will admit and apologise. every point i win, I will load three extra fraud files. Better be carefull, the extra fraud I load in the group files mght be on one of your mates.

You going to take me on or not!
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Why Mimi, you are wrong-it is far worse then hysteria.

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

Mimi, you made this diagnosis upon your expert opinion after using the proper evidence-based diagnostic methods as recommended by mental health experts didn't you? Of course you did not. You must be a Liveperson expert, probably one of those who has read a two dollar book and thinks they are now an expert.

Oh BTW you are wrong (big surprise). It is NOT hysteria. The correct diagnosis is a combination of the following: anger, hatred, revenge, disgust (so bad that it makes me wanna puke sometimes) at what some people can do to others over and over again...for money...

Unlike you and the rest of the nameless scum who purport to be experts on my ability to compile enough research to prove this company hurts people and are getting worse, I have THE INTELLIGENCE AND SKILLS TO PROVE MY STATEMENTS.

You are stupid. I hate YOU AND people like you. I hate the frauds and I hate the company. I WILL get them. Liveperson have screwed up big-time in the medical and health section. I can prove it (and all the people who know about this and who are reading this are laughing right now-at the company, and at people like you). The disclaimer won't protect them from medical fraud. Let us just say that that section has gone to the dogs since Liveperson took over:).

So, no, it is not hysteria. The diagnosis is a combination of a burning hatred and anger fuelled by lowlife like you, some emerging devious traits that really only came out after I was ripped off by the company and my safety, and that of my family was severely compromised here, and my training in evidence-based research.

I hate all of the scumbags like you. Ironically, I wasn't like that before my experience with the psychics and with trying to find somewhere to safely express my disappointment and anger (all normal human emotions) and stumbled across this site. But I am now. The difference is I can prove the company is lying about checking health credentials and, you see, I really am a PhD who works in clinical research.

Who do you think the American Medical and Psychiatric Associations are going to believe? Given the fact that their main concern is patient safety and the provision of proper treatment by appropriately qualified health professionals, I think they, and the media will listen to me rather than a bunch off slimy businessmen.

I publish in health journals, have presented at Psychiatric Congresses and have a resume full of completed studies using evidence-based medical methodologies so I may be low on their hierarchy because I am not a physician, but I am considered to be one of them.

Oh, and another 'small' point. In the USA they have to be careful of their malpractice premiums. For these reasons, The AMA, APA and other peak medical and health bodies hate renegade companies. Let us just say that the health section has REALLY gone to the dogs since Liveperson took over Kasamba.

Screw you. You are an example of one of the lowest forms of human life. A person who tries to hurt others. You don't get it do you. These frauds are hurting people for money and it is a ntuaral human trait to want to express this. People like you come on here and kick others when they are down. That makes you evil.

You come on here and try and kick me. That makes you stupid because I passed anger a couple of weeks ago and am now in a state of cold and focussed rage. Luckily I have the evidence to justify this and I am going to use it.

I WILL WRITE WHAT I WANT ON THIS SITE. I WILL PUBLISH WHATEVER PROOF I HAVE IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN AND ANNOUNCE IT HERE IN THE MOST VICIOUS AND DEROGATORY TERMS THAT I CAN MUSTER AT THE TIME. I WILL DO IT WHENEVER I WANT.

I WILL READ THIS BOARD REGULARLY AND EVERY TIME YOU OR SOME LOWLIFE IDIOT LIKE YOU TRIES TO HURT A CLIENT WHO POSTS HERE BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN RIPPED OFF BY A COMPANY THAT IS INCREASINGLY PROTECTING FRAUDS, I WILL POST THE MEANEST, MOST DISPARAGING REPLIES AND DIRECT THE CLIENT TO THE PLACE WHERE THEY CAN BE INFORMED AND SUPPORTED.

WHENEVER YOU OR SOMEONE LIKES YOU WRITES A STUPID HURTFUL REMARK ABOUT ANY CLIENT I WILL HIT BACK TWICE AS HARD. YOU WILL LOOK LIKE THE FOOL THAT YOU ARE. I WARN CLIENTS ABOUT THE FRAUDS. NOW I THINK IT IS TIME I COMPLIED A LIST OF THE BRAINLESS TRASH LIKE YOU WHO REAR YOUR UGLY SOULS ON THIS BOARD.

There you go Mimi. Is that enough for you to make a diagnosis of rage?. If not, I can always provide some more proof. You make me sick. A year of this has changed me. I wasn't like this before but I sure am now you stupid, piece of trash. You are a fool. There is nothing you can say to stop this process. There never was. But If I read that you attack any new clients I will simply take them to the safe place where you name will be found on the IDIOT list along with the others.

It is about an hours work for me to go though the posts and list all the evil and incorrect comments that you or someone like you has made and out it up next to the research that proves you are wrong. I am prepared to do that in order to prevent clients being subjected to what you and the other manipulative swine on this board have used to try and hurt me.

Is that enough 'evidence' for you to change your diagnosis? Want more? Post again and I will hit you back harder.

YOU DON'T GET IT YOU STUPID, EVIL SHREW. I HAVE HAD ENOUGH. I WANT THIS OVER AND I WANT TO MOVE ON. BUT I WON'T UNTIL IT IS FINISHED.

SO MY DIAGNOSIS IT PROBABLY MORE CORRECT: COLD RATIONAL RAGE. bUT YOU KNOW WHAT, IT MIGHT NOT BE THE MOST SPIRITUAL EMOTION BUT IT SURE IS A GOOD MOTIVATOR. I HATE YOU AND EVERYONE LIKE YOU AT THE MOMENT AND I WILL WORK TWICE AS HARD TO GET THE PROJECT FINISHED, IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN AND INFORMATION ABOUT THE FRAUDS IN THE HANDS OF THE AUTHORITIES.

I bet Master Z. Powerful visions, Fruno and all the rest didn't pay taxes on those little checks they got from Israel. I don't know American tax law but I asume it is the same as ours. This means it is illegal.

They are supposed to declare all income but they were all working for Kasamba before paypal and before that had to fill out tax forms, All I have done is writen their ID number, the places they worked (Master Z started on the sex site in October 2001, for example) and given other details, including screenshots, the states in which they live and posted it off to your IRS who will do the rest.

Gee I was going to go to a movie this afternoon. However on second thought, I think I will stay on the computer and spend the afternoon preparing to SHOOT SOME MORE HOSTAGES.

Expect more reports of PROOF OF FRAUD BY LIVEPERSON PSYCHICS soon. I have said in enough posts where to find this proof.

Disclaimer: This post was made for entertainment purposes only.
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#26 Author of original report

i must be psychic-can see the title but not the text

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

It doesn't matter who wrote or what they said. They have not administered the proper diagnostic tests to make any judgement on my mental health.

That is the problem with Liveperson too-too many frauds who don't know what they are doing.

You cannot diagnose anyone's mental health without administering the proper diagnostic tools.

It is the guiding priciple of all health diagnosis and treatment, including mental health

It is callled evidence-based medicine

Look it you idiot. The American Psychiatric Association state "APA practice guidelines provide evidence-based recommendations for the assessment and treatment of psychiatric disorders". A good reference is Practice Guidelines for the Treatment of Psychiatric Disorders 2004.

You are just stupid.
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#27 Consumer Comment

Janice you asked for a specific diagnosis of your hysteria...

AUTHOR: Screaming Mimi - (U.S.A.)

Janice, I checked with a doctor and he told me that the clinical term for your condition is "loony tunes". Please step away from the comuter and seek helps.
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Nutcase...can you be more specific...tell me which diagnostic criteria that I fit

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

I am in a good mood because all my data has been retrieved. This means that I can (and have) start putting up the results of the research. See Got Me, while you were 'watching', I was working.

I guess that is the difference between us. You just run off at the mouth and I work.

I can justify the last year or so with a product that I am disseminating.

Let me guess, you have spent the last year reading the DSM-IV and you are now qualified to make an assessment of my mental health.

But before you do perhaps it is best to check with the AMA APS APA and all the other bodies that have strict guidelines about who can practice as a counsellor, psychiatrist pr psychologist.

It is easy to information to access as it is on their websites. Well, it easy for an experienced mental health practitioner like yourself to be able to at least tell me the specific mental health diagnosis that has lead you conclude that I am a 'nutcase'.

Do I have a mood disorder? Which one?. Anxiety disorder? You of course know that there are around 6 subtypes and they are often comorbid.

Now you can't diagnose me a schitzophrenic because I meet none of the diagnostic criteria. Bipolar..mmmnnnn, 1 or 2 and why?

I'll tell you what. You go back to your manual and let me know when you have a specific diagnosis.
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Nutcase...can you be more specific...tell me which diagnostic criteria that I fit

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

I am in a good mood because all my data has been retrieved. This means that I can (and have) start putting up the results of the research. See Got Me, while you were 'watching', I was working.

I guess that is the difference between us. You just run off at the mouth and I work.

I can justify the last year or so with a product that I am disseminating.

Let me guess, you have spent the last year reading the DSM-IV and you are now qualified to make an assessment of my mental health.

But before you do perhaps it is best to check with the AMA APS APA and all the other bodies that have strict guidelines about who can practice as a counsellor, psychiatrist pr psychologist.

It is easy to information to access as it is on their websites. Well, it easy for an experienced mental health practitioner like yourself to be able to at least tell me the specific mental health diagnosis that has lead you conclude that I am a 'nutcase'.

Do I have a mood disorder? Which one?. Anxiety disorder? You of course know that there are around 6 subtypes and they are often comorbid.

Now you can't diagnose me a schitzophrenic because I meet none of the diagnostic criteria. Bipolar..mmmnnnn, 1 or 2 and why?

I'll tell you what. You go back to your manual and let me know when you have a specific diagnosis.
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Nutcase...can you be more specific...tell me which diagnostic criteria that I fit

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

I am in a good mood because all my data has been retrieved. This means that I can (and have) start putting up the results of the research. See Got Me, while you were 'watching', I was working.

I guess that is the difference between us. You just run off at the mouth and I work.

I can justify the last year or so with a product that I am disseminating.

Let me guess, you have spent the last year reading the DSM-IV and you are now qualified to make an assessment of my mental health.

But before you do perhaps it is best to check with the AMA APS APA and all the other bodies that have strict guidelines about who can practice as a counsellor, psychiatrist pr psychologist.

It is easy to information to access as it is on their websites. Well, it easy for an experienced mental health practitioner like yourself to be able to at least tell me the specific mental health diagnosis that has lead you conclude that I am a 'nutcase'.

Do I have a mood disorder? Which one?. Anxiety disorder? You of course know that there are around 6 subtypes and they are often comorbid.

Now you can't diagnose me a schitzophrenic because I meet none of the diagnostic criteria. Bipolar..mmmnnnn, 1 or 2 and why?

I'll tell you what. You go back to your manual and let me know when you have a specific diagnosis.
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Nutcase...can you be more specific...tell me which diagnostic criteria that I fit

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

I am in a good mood because all my data has been retrieved. This means that I can (and have) start putting up the results of the research. See Got Me, while you were 'watching', I was working.

I guess that is the difference between us. You just run off at the mouth and I work.

I can justify the last year or so with a product that I am disseminating.

Let me guess, you have spent the last year reading the DSM-IV and you are now qualified to make an assessment of my mental health.

But before you do perhaps it is best to check with the AMA APS APA and all the other bodies that have strict guidelines about who can practice as a counsellor, psychiatrist pr psychologist.

It is easy to information to access as it is on their websites. Well, it easy for an experienced mental health practitioner like yourself to be able to at least tell me the specific mental health diagnosis that has lead you conclude that I am a 'nutcase'.

Do I have a mood disorder? Which one?. Anxiety disorder? You of course know that there are around 6 subtypes and they are often comorbid.

Now you can't diagnose me a schitzophrenic because I meet none of the diagnostic criteria. Bipolar..mmmnnnn, 1 or 2 and why?

I'll tell you what. You go back to your manual and let me know when you have a specific diagnosis.
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Full on NUT CASE

AUTHOR: Got Me - (Denmark)

Wow, janice, someone needs to call 911.....and quick. You get crazier with each post. I have watched this progress over the last couple of years and boy or boy.........pretty scary.
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AUTHOR: Got Me - (Denmark)

Wow, janice, someone needs to call 911.....and quick. You get crazier with each post. I have watched this progress over the last couple of years and boy or boy.........pretty scary.
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AUTHOR: Got Me - (Denmark)

Wow, janice, someone needs to call 911.....and quick. You get crazier with each post. I have watched this progress over the last couple of years and boy or boy.........pretty scary.
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Full on NUT CASE

AUTHOR: Got Me - (Denmark)

Wow, janice, someone needs to call 911.....and quick. You get crazier with each post. I have watched this progress over the last couple of years and boy or boy.........pretty scary.
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#36 Consumer Comment

fruno - I see

AUTHOR: Augusta - (U.S.A.)

I had a funny feeling my reading may have been scripted which is why I stopped using beside none of the "predictions" playing out - it was beleive in the Power of Love, Have faith in the love, the love is real, etc etc.
Yes I know the fraud is rampant, and the skill level very low on LP, the feedback tainted, and the readers lean toward the non-Spirit side, very Ego driven.
There are a few genuine ones but that doesnt justify being de-frauded by the those who are not genuine psychic readers, healers, astrologers ..whatever.
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#37 Author of original report

AUGUSTA-FRUNO USES THOSE SAME PHRASES IN ALL HIS READINGS-

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

Augusta, you just yold me that YOU HAVE THE SAME READING AS EVERYONE ELSE.
Not only that, I looked through his ratings and lots of clients over the years refer to the same generic phrases that I have in the complete transcripts.

There are two ratings in which he was outed for giving the same reading to two friends. One was from a couple of years ago and the other was from March this year. I have them in the case study. I will put it up in that group as soon as I get my data back and you can compare your reading with the other transcripts. There is always room for one more piece of proof.

Listen Augusta, I have had enough of these people defrauding and hurting clients. I really have. When I got sick and then drowned my comuter I was about 90% finished putting it all together.

I am going to start loading case studies on that group but I am also going to finish the last but that shows how Liverperson supports the frauds. It is actually written but it needs rearranging and editing.

I am then going to make everything public in the most dramatic way that I can.

THIS FRAUD HAS GOT TO STOP AND THE COMPANY IS FACILITATING THE FRAUD BY COVERING UP REPORTS FROM CLIENTS AND BANNING THE CLIENTS.

I SHOULD KNOW-I HAVE BEEN BANNED SEVERAL TIMES UNTIL I TOLD THEM WHAT I HAD FOUND OUT AND THEY BANNED ME COMPLETELY.

BUT I EXPECTED THAT AND IT JUST SHOWS THEY KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON AND HIDE IT.

They don't know how much I have on them. But they will soon.

What they don't realise is that a disclaimer will not protect them from prosecution for false advertising and fraud.

All it will take is one bit of publicity and there will be a groundswell of clients coming forward.

Honestly, I have had enough of reading about clients who have been hurt, enough of the stupid abuse here, enough of the company and it's fraud.

It is time to start making it all public. I have the research and the proof. It is just a matter of time now.
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#38 Author of original report

No, they are not the same person, but they both give the same reading to every client

AUTHOR: Janice - (Australia)

Sorry for the confusion. No, they are NOT the same person but I have case studies that show they use scripts. This means they give the same readings, almost word for word to the different clients and have done for years. I have comparative transcripts (with clienys name edited out but that were given over a two year period) that show they say exactly the same words, same sentences to all of the clients.

I will post them in the group soon. In fact I will this week as soon as I get my data back. I was actually sick and did ruin a laptop and then had work to catch up. Contrary to what has been posted about me by Patti (and others) this project, while I am committed to finishing it, does have to be put on the backburner at times because of work and other issues.

However, that is all sorted now. I had hoped to get my data back this weekend but I didn't finish the journal article in time to get the old hard drive to the computer place. I am going to do that tomorrow.

It has been well knowN for years that Fruno does this but I think it will be a surprise that Psychic Lee, or Readings for lee, or whatever she calls herself defraud clients at $15.00 a minute. But she does. I will let you know when I have posted the proof later this week.

The case studies will show that they BOTH do not 'read' the cients, they read a script. Therefore that is NOT an individualised reading but fraud. THEY BOTH HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR YEARS.

It is time that clients are made aware of the front page experts who defraud them. The proof is on the group about Master Z. He also leads clients on and then blocks them. Powerful Visions broke the law and contravened the expert warrantees by using a stolen copyrighted photo and she lies to clients then blames them (in a nasty way) and blocks them.

Fruno gives scripted readings and then makes some generic excuse when challenged AND tries to justify it by saying he didn't charge for emails. I couldn't believe that one-I mean he defrauds clients and then says that he is a 'good guy' because he sends a couple of probably generic emails to support his lies and one at the end to say what he saw was correct but people choose different paths and he ONLY charged $70.00 or whatever. What part of the words' dishonest unethical and fraudulent' does he not understand?

I must admit that Lee was a surprise to me but it is there in black and white-same reading 3 different clients.

I will post them this week and you can judge for yourself. Please do tell me if you think i am wrong but those who have read the report draft have said the same thing: Fruno is well known for it but Lee was a surprise.

Sharon, it is FRAUD. It doesn't matter if the reading cost $70 or $270, it is STILL fraud.
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#39 Consumer Comment

Fruno, Lee

AUTHOR: Augusta - (U.S.A.)

Based on my experience, I would not say they were the same (but who knows anymore), however they were both fully incorrect. To me Lee is basically a cold reader who runs off about stuff (very distracting, but that is the point of a cold read) and her predictions were incorrect, and a year later when I got a fresh read and didnt remind her of my old one - wow was it totally different and she basically said the total opposite! Very disappointing - never used again. I would recommend not wasting your money.
Fruno was low priced, very considerate, but ultimately wrong in my case so I never used again. ALL predictions/potentials wrong. But I didnt get the same negative vibe I got from Lee - so perhaps he would work for someone else. All I can say is having faith in the love, the power of love etc which he presents doesnt take into consideration human love is not divine love - no guarantees.
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#40 Consumer Comment

Confused? Fruno and Lee?

AUTHOR: Sharon - (U.S.A.)

Janice are you suggesting Fruno and readings by Lee are the same expert?
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