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Complaint Review: Lucid Management - Syndicate Management - Scentura Creations

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  • Submitted: Mon, March 30, 2009
  • Updated: Wed, April 28, 2010

  • Reported By:Beaverton Oregon
Lucid Management - Syndicate Management - Scentura Creations
3060A SW 87th Ave Portland, Oregon U.S.A.
  • Phone: 503-292-4186
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  • Category: Employers

Lucid Management - Syndicate Management - Scentura Creations People Beware, This seems strickingly similar to all that I have read about the Scentura Creations scam Portland Oregon

*General Comment: Papa Buffoon

*UPDATE Employee: Internet Terrorist

*General Comment: Mislead by a Scentura Office?? Lead an Effort! Take Action!

*UPDATE Employee: I agree with #3

*General Comment: You're Still Wrong Tom

*Consumer Comment: You're mistaken sir.

*General Comment: You're Wrong Tom! Rio Help me Out Here!

*Consumer Comment: Please Read the definition of a Appellate Court:

*General Comment: Just Observations

*UPDATE Employee: Just the facts

*General Comment: You changed the subject AGAIN Papa Perfume!

*UPDATE Employee: It's a choice

*UPDATE Employee: Wrong!!!

*UPDATE Employee: owner

*UPDATE Employee: owner

*UPDATE Employee: owner

*UPDATE Employee: owner

*Consumer Comment: Thank you!

*Consumer Suggestion: Syndicate Management - Portland, OR

*Consumer Suggestion: Syndicate Management - Portland, OR

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I responded to an ad on Craigslist looking for Management and office help, no experience necessary, they would train you. Went in for an interview and the office was a crappy little place with loud music playing. Sat down to fill out a little questioneer and waited for an interview. There were three other people there also waiting for interviews. Finally was taken in with two of the three other people for a group interview (very wierd). The interviewer did most of the talking (mostly about how much money we could make, etc.). I did get to answer a few general questions (not the kind most interviewers would ask a prospective employee), then was released from the interview and was told I would be called later tonight and informed if I would be called back in for a second interview and was told I could leave. The whole interview lasted about 10 minutes. I came home and began some research on this prospective employer. It was not easy finding information, but one of the phone numbers in the ad turns out to be for Syndicate Management located on SE 122nd in Portland. A search of their name led me to rippoff report. They appear to fall into the same scheme as numerous others when reading reports about the cheap perfume scam perpetrated by Scentura Creations. Every one of the scenarios that I read were identical to what I had experienced.

I will not be wasting any more time with them when I get called back for the second interview and just wanted to get some information out there in case other people are doing their due dilligence and checking out the company that they are interviewing with.

If it sounds too good to be true, It most allways is!

Pjm
Beaverton, Oregon
U.S.A.

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#1 General Comment

Papa Buffoon

AUTHOR: Lionel Cosgrove - (USA)

I believe you  are persistent. You BS better than anyone I've ever seen before! Believe what you want Mr. Buffoon (I'm not calling you Papa anymore because it's just ridiculous).

You can say what you want about me and others who agree with me but we're not the ones these reports are against.

The way and demeanor by which you and those like you defend Scenutra is the wrong way to do it. I'm Serious! Your PR is a total joke! Take steps to repair your reputation and perhaps you'll see less people reporting to this site. Actions speak louder than calling people a WPS, terrorist or blowout just because they didn't play into your brainwashing tactics.

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Internet Terrorist

AUTHOR: papa perfume - (United States of America)

I believe  you are smart.  You copy and paste better then anyone I've ever seen before.  I still don't believe you're not a blow-out though.  I do wish you good luck however. 

As far as blow-outs bashing us it'll never change.  That is why they are unemployed.  Some people can't admit that their own self-worth is $8-$10 a hour.  And that's all they'll ever make.  And then there are the small percentage of us who work for what we get.  What we put in is what we get out.  I've been here over 6 years and going strong.  Just promoted a new office they'll be up and running this Monday.  Any blow-outs keeping track that's my second promotion this year.  2010 what a great year. 

Good luck and best wishes

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#3 General Comment

Mislead by a Scentura Office?? Lead an Effort! Take Action!

AUTHOR: Lionel Cosgrove - (USA)

Yet another typical brainwashed response from another Scentura Cult Member. I find it funny the way Scentura Cult Leaders talk down on people and call them a weak piece of s*it or a terrorist rather than trying to repair their joke of a company's reputation. Honestly, Scentura's PR has got to to be the worst EVER!

Let me start off by saying that I never worked for any Scentura office, I'm in law school, I've already had a great career for years. You see I did it the hard way unlike Mr. Ewers and these other Scentura clowns. I started out in troubleshooting with Comcast (AT&T Broadband at the time) before college. While in college I did direct sales for Primerica and Vector during my summer breaks. After college I went into Human Resources for a small medical provider of home healthcare and in two years I moved my way up to VP of the department. Three years ago I accepted an offer to become CEO of a small company that specializes in adult education. One year ago I enrolled part-time in Law School. I've had several people tell me first hand about the unethical business practices these Scentura cult leaders engage in.

Did I make as much as these scentura cult leaders claim to make while moving my way up? No. But I did it honestly, without scamming people and I am now making 6 figures and I know a thing or two about running a business.

You see I provide my employees with benefits including health insurance, dental, vision, 401k, disability and life insurance upon hire, Scentura provides none.

I pay all my employees for the hours they WORK plus time and half for anything over 40 hours per week, plus bonuses for bringing in new business. Scentura pays only commission.

When we're looking for sales people we advertise for sales people, not managers. Have good sales people been promoted? You bet. But we also have an Accounting department, a Human Resources department, a PR department an IT department plus all our teachers and case managers. I personally would prefer hiring people with
experience in their respective fields where as Scentura will bring on any idiot off the street as long as they're easily brainwashed or plain just greedy.

We have a website, an established customer base, all of our sales people are comped for all the miles they drive plus expenses they incur and all my employees have business cards which the I pay for, even the non sales staff. That's pretty much standard at every company nowadays. Accept for maybe food service and retail which Scentura people seem to think is the only other option out there.

If YOU have been burned by a Scentura distributor you can take some action against them. Will it take the whole company down? No. Will it work against one office? It can and it has. Will we take down every office? Probably not. Can you get them out of your town? Well that depends on you. 

TAKING ACTION AND GETTING AN OFFICE SHUT
DOWN!

The life-blood of these offices is the classified ads. If their classifieds are no longer allowed in the newspapers the distributor will not be able to place their
ads and the pyramid will collapse. They will be forced to close down shop and move to an area where the local papers have yet to catch on.
The first thing you have to do is write a letter or email to the newspaper classifieds as well as websites where these ads are placed. Be sure to keep it professional. If you live in a large metropolitan area this could take a lot of work so be patient and stick with it. Read other newspapers classifieds and search other job sites to find more of these ads and send letters/emails to them.

Beforesending the letter it is important to include;


  • Your own experiences. Don't forget the name of the business as well as the name of the paper/website that the false/misleading ads are in. Stress that this is a business opportunity, not a job. Therefore, it should not be advertised as a job.

  • The Illinois Appellate Court ruling. This case ruled that a contract between Scentura Creations and a distributor/owner was part of a pyramid sales scheme, violated the law and was unenforceable. Click this link and print out the case http://www.state.il.us/court/Opinions/AppellateCourt/2001/2ndDistrict/September/Html/2000964.htm

  • Testimonials from former owners and News stories. Just use Google or Bing
If the letter doesnt work, send another more stern letter. Send multiple letters or emails if you have to!!!

Then send letters to other news sources warning them of the misleading ads.
This way they wont be able to advertise elsewhere as a back up plan.


You can find some sample letters in the thread below. They were posted by JD back in 2005. Just know the letters are a bit dated so be sure to make them as professional and up-to-date as possible. There also are tons of websites that can give advice on writing good professional letters.

http://www.ripoffreport.com/Sales-People/Platinum-Marketing-I/platinum-marketing-internation-n879d.htm

For testimonials from former employees and owners look in this thread under the poster Noah from Chicago.

http://www.ripoffreport.com/corrupt-companies/essence-unlimited-sc/essence-unlimited-scentura-c-m5f98.htm

Other measures include: Starting petitions; Writing your local politicians such as State Representatives, City Councilmen/women, Aldermen/women; Contacting News Agencies.

ONCE AGAIN.
Im open to ANY ideas!

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#4 UPDATE Employee

I agree with #3

AUTHOR: Joseph - (USA)

First off let me introduce myself. My name is Joseph Ewer and I own a branch in Seattle Washington. I went through training in Portland Oregon with the branch owners of the Beaverton branch. I am 21 years old and I own a business.

Honestly I am sick and tired of all the complaints on the internet about Scentura. Listen, if you have problems with the company then you are extreamly weak. If you had ACTUALLY listened to the interviews and orientations then you would understand this company.

I read a lot about how all you weak people think we are scam artist and that you think we are uneducated. I will admit that I have no papers verifying that I graduated any school but I did get my G.E.D. and I started attending college at the age of 15. If anyone wants to call any of us uneducated then you should look at yourself first. Get a dictionary, hooked on phonics, or at least a spell check... you guys make yourselves look stupid!

Honestly I had to work VERY hard to make it through training. Good work ethic is what a lot of you blow outs lack. People today are the layzist they have been ever! If any of you had been thrown into the 1800's you would probably kill yourselves... As one of my business associates so eloquently put it "I would sell dildos on the street for a year if it ment I could own my own business" America was founded on the basis of free enterprise. People come from all over the world to own their own business. If anyone of you blow outs wants to go work a "job" then be my guest... You will be slaves to somebody else. With the Scentura opportunity you get to set your own self worth. I quit working a "job" because I didn't want anybody else to tell me that I was only worth $8/hr. Now as a business owner I am worth hundreds of dollars an hour! I make money while I sleep! Try doing that W.P.S.!

I make a lot of money... But didn't your parents tell you that it's rude to ask other people how much they make a year? Oh you didn't have parents... my bad... You weak people think you have it bad? My dad was in jail when I was born... My mother was addicted to cocaine... I had it probably just as bad as you guys if not worse. The difference between you and me is that I wanted to make something of myself and i had to work hard to achieve it...

If I look broke it's because thats how I want too look... What is the point of spending money?! I wear clothes and shoes that are comfortable. Do you all want me to dress like a million bucks? That is not my personality. It's not about how much you spend, it's about how much you save... I will save more money THIS year than any of you pathetic losers will MAKE in the next FIVE YEARS!!

Honestly this company is only a scam if you cheat yourself... All you weak people are just looking for a quick buck. If you quit the training program and go get a "job" how long will it take to get your first paycheck? TWO WEEKS!! You can make sales profit EVERYDAY while in training... If you apply what we teach you then you can make one hundred dollars a day! But no... you are all narrow minded, thick headed idiots... Millionares are not made overnight... Ask ANYBODY that owns a six to seven figure a year business... They will all tell you that it took a lot of time and A LOT of hard work...

Scam?!?! Most definantly not! The company has been around for 35 years! You would think that they would have been shut down by now if it was a scam... Do any of you morons even know what a pyramid scheme is? LOOK IT UP!! Duh... Dictionary.Com for all you morons that believe anything you read on the internet... Oh yeah, I just read on the internet that there is life on the moon and that bigfoot is flying up there to meet it... duh...

You idiots dont think that we will put you in your own office? We will when you finish training. I even spend MY OWN money to pay for it!! The only reason that you wouldn't get your own office is that you blow out...

I'm done with all you morons... Why are you all so afraid of something a little different? If you continue to be as such then I pity your poor existince...

Joseph Ewer

Branch Owner

Seattle, Washington U.S.A

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You're Still Wrong Tom

AUTHOR: F Scentura! - (USA)

I'm not talking about FedEx, don't change the subject. This is for independent study for 1 extra credit hour which was approved by my professor. Scentura is like a virus in our area and several fellow students have complained.

I researched the extortion claims but it changes nothing because the reports on this site match those of the students who have complained. People who've been scammed and want businesses like yours shut down have an advocate to help us achieve our goal.

Scentura offices get shut down all the time. Plus, if you've done YOUR research you'll see that the Illinois Attorney General's office filed lawsuits against Scentura in 2003 & 2004.

So you say I need to stop calling people names? Well given the manner in which owners have talked to people and responded on this site it appears to be the only way to get through to your brainwashed crooked jerk-offs.
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You're mistaken sir.

AUTHOR: Durrrrrrr - (U.S.A.)


You are correct about the appellate court being an appeals court.  What you're not correct about is the level of it's jurisdiction.  It is the lowest level court just above small claims.  I'm ignoring small claims because this has nothing to do with small claims. 


About your challenge.  I find it just silly to try to defame a company over 1 case.  Do you realize that pyramid schemes are illegal in the US?  But yet 34 years and still not one government branch has even tried to shut it down?   Why is that?  Well that's because it's not a pyramid scheme.  Nothing stays open for 34 years strong and continues to be a scam w/o some sort government body shutting locations down.

Unfortunately, just like any other company with independently owned locations, not everyone does the right thing.  You get through the program and learn the business you get an office.  It's that simple.  You don't have to pay it back, you don't have to put money into it.   You work as hard as you want to work.  You are your own boss throughout the entire relationship with Scentura.  All these people making all these accusations have no hard evidence. 

Court decisions are so biased all the time when it comes to businesses.  Check out fed ex.  They had drivers sue them in NY State and CA for the same exact charge.  Fed Ex won in NY State but lost in CA.  Read up on it. 

Oh and nice BS statement about how you're researching for class.  If you're researching why are you responding to a forum?  Forums are opinion not fact.  You really have to stop insulting people.  Call us idiots, that's fine.  I'm done with this.

I'll promote my people when they're done and some will make it and some won't.  It's up to them.  Make your rebuttals, it doesn't matter.  I don't worry too much about this site considering so many people out there don't even believe what's on here considering the accused extortion plot on here.  Research that one :)
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You're Wrong Tom! Rio Help me Out Here!

AUTHOR: F Scentura! - (USA)

You're totally wrong Tom! Appellate Courts are the second level, not the lowest court decision makers as you put it. You can call this factual case biased or a joke if you want but it's the only Scentura related case on record. As soon as another Dan Long comes along and it goes to court again they will rule similarly. I challenge you to produce another court case that says different.

Appellate courts hear appeals of a trial courts or other lower tribunals. In most jurisdictions the court system is divided into at least three levels: trial courts, which initially hear cases and review evidence and testimony to determine the facts of the case; at least one intermediate appellate court; and a supreme court which primarily reviews the decisions of intermediate courts.

Rio! If you're out there I'm going Germany and Israel for vacation until the January 12th. Do me a favor and rebut these idiots for me while I'm gone. I'll continue fighting the good fight upon my return.
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Please Read the definition of a Appellate Court:

AUTHOR: Durrrrrrr - (U.S.A.)


Look it up at (((Redacted))).  It's the lowest court decision makers.   You do realize the because 1 judge makes a decision it could be totally biased.  This is in ONE county in Illinois.  Let us know when the State court or better takes this case.  They won't because it's a joke.  Dan Long obviously got really lucky. 



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#9 General Comment

Just Observations

AUTHOR: F Scentura! - (USA)

Well, at least you researched the case but how come I had to ask so many times? The ruling was that your contract was unenforceable in a court of law, not that it was illegal.

Calling other posters and myself terrorists is out of line. Were nothing more than Americans exercising our first amendment rights on the internet, just like you! So to compare us to those pieces of sh*t that seek to kill Americans and destroy our way of life is just ludicrous. I may not agree with your business practices but I still respect you a fellow American.

Well you answered so Ill tell you this. Im an outside observer, not a blow-out. Im researching direct marketing companies for a Business Law class Im taking. Im not unemployed and Im well on my way to making more than any of you clowns. A lot other students have complained about Scentura and they were not people who only went to the first or second interview. Im talking months of making hardly any money and no office.

So if what you say is true it obviously wasnt your office. So why are you trying so hard to defend other owners who dont do the business honestly?

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#10 UPDATE Employee

Just the facts

AUTHOR: papa perfume - (United States of America)

Well since I don't like your name I'm gonna call you Mr. Terrorist.  You are always so wrong, but I do love the "game" we play.  I never change the subject as a matter of fact if you ever read my rebuttals I always go right after the questions.  So here I go again for you Mr. Terrorist. 

I'm gonna start from the middle here, I'd be and I'm sure any office manager would be more then happy to show you my business lic.  And as a matter of fact you have to have several including a: DBA license, Retail sales License, City License, and a Occupancy License.  And they have to be renewed every so often.  That would prove I'm legit.  But if you want I'd be more than happy to compare my last 6 years of taxes with your last 6 years if that satisfies you? 

Now you say you've showed me a "real court cast that ruled my contract was illegal"  First of all I don't believe it.  And if you'd be more than happy to give me your legal first and last name and your date of birth I'd be more than happy to create a website that says lots of very nice things about who you are.  Second that was a contract between Dan Long and Scentura, not with me and anyone.  I agree that I don't understand the language I graduated high school not law school.  Third this was back in 1999 dumb ass.  I wasn't even in the business then, so I could care less. 

Now I'm not ignorant I've been told the story about Dan Long and Scentura and I believe the Scentura side.  Here's a cliff notes version:  I was told he was in the business about 7 years.  Did very well became a regional manager was makeing a large six figure income.  He had serious problems in his personal life and was making lots of bad decisions and it started giving the company a bad rep.  Was told to screw-off and blew out and went to another wholesale fragrance company, World Perfume (who we are not), and continued his crap there until the company went under. 

So there is a little info maybe you didn't have??  Now next, I don't run a pyramid because they are illegal.  First of all in a pyramid there has to be some sort of investment or collateral, our business there is none of monetary value.  It's blood, sweat, and tears for about 90 days. 

Next.  I've never had anyone in my operation get arrested for selling our product.  I've had people get arrested in the field, but it was because they had warrants for things they had done outside the business.  Next, what we do is not illegal we do business to business sales that is not illegal.  If we sell in a parking lot, that is private property and if we get asked to leave we do.  The only people I've ever had get ticked in my operation are the ones that didn't leave, which was for trespassing.  And every soliciting ticket any person ever got didn't stand up in court as soon as we showed our sales lic.  And yes I paid the tickets that my people got that were their faults anyways. 

So now on to you.  I don't attack anyone personally because I've never met them, I do call them idiots but that's about as far as it goes.  But you Mr. Terrorist you may take the prize for most unintelligent of them all.  All you've done is just jump on the back of the others negative pile ons.  At least noah and Jd and some of the others have done their own research you on the other hand are just stupid.  All of you take your info from BS sources.  And your only ammo is this which you post over and over and over again and it comes from 1999.  A lot of things have changed in the last 10+ years buddy.  I almost wish that you had more ammo than just that, but you DON'T!!

So here's the facts now:  We are a direct sales company.  If you apply you apply to run or assist in running, or manage or assist in managing a new office in our company.  There is a 90 day hands on learning program where you'll learn every aspect of our business from sales and marketing, to teaching, training, and leadership, to admin and managing on of our offices.  Income during the training is a average of $200-$500 a week based upon sales profits, bonuses and overrides.  Income upon completing in Unlimited.  Some successful managers make 40k others make over a million a year. 

Well it is Christmas Eve tomm. so I wish everybody happy holidays, yes even the blow-outs.  And even you Mr. Terrorist. 

And now just like you I'm gonna copy and paste my post.  HaHa

 

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You changed the subject AGAIN Papa Perfume!

AUTHOR: F Scentura! - (USA)

You're a coward Papa Perfume! You're going after other posters now because I've stumped you on this! Your answer is that you don't understand it. Well ignorance is no excuse.

Show us some proof that your operation is completely legit! Not something related to how much money you make, not something related to how many people have gotten rich from it; just solid proof that it is in fact a legitimate operation.

I showed you the result of a real court case that ruled your contract was part of a pyramid sales scheme, violated the law and was unenforceable so I've already presented my argument. You say it isn't a pyramid but the court ruled it was. You are not above the law sir!

Click link for actual court case:

http://www.state.il.us/court/Opinions/AppellateCourt/2001/2ndDistrict/September/Html/2000964.htm

By the way if you can't show proof that your operation is legit at least answer this. How come there are multiple reports on this site of people getting ticketed and in some cases arrested for soliciting your product?
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#12 UPDATE Employee

It's a choice

AUTHOR: papa perfume - (United States of America)

Here we go again, two more people that have came in for a interview and are now experts on the business.  Funny thing is it's almost christmas and they are probably still unemployed.  We are talking 8-9 months now.  They would be running their own offices by now. 

So heres the choice.  You choose to buy the bull-sh*t or you choose to believe successful people.  You can go home with a sack of sh*t or a bank account full of money.  I choose the money.  It's not that money can buy you happiniess but it solves a lot of problems before they happen.  These two people; Pjm and Vonquale; post almost the same crap and they are both unemployed.  The one guy even says the office was furnished "very professional"  and the other office was a "crappy little place" they were obviously two different offices.  The one guy mentions "Jeremy" if it's the same guy I believe that it is his office is the number one distribution center for the year to date.  And he's a young Regional manager so by definition he has to make about $350 thousand this year.  Not bad for being twenty something I guess.  So then the question is how much does your unemployment pay? 

It's always the same complaints how could we be more direct?  We tell them in the interview process we are a wholesale fragrance company, they will be expected to learn all aspects of the business from sales to leadership to management.  Both of these idiots went in for a first interview, thats it thats all.  Why don't you sit down with Jeremy face to face or any other successful office manager and cover the crap.  You never read posts about people that have been in the business for over 5 years and are making a 6 figure income.  It's almost always the blow-outs or the handfull of internet terrorist that pile onto these post with the same crap.  Why don't you post that over 100 millionaires have been created because of this business.  Why don't you post the number of people that have made 6 figure incomes because of this business.  Those are facts not assumptions like these two idiots. 

But as always best wishes blow-outs and the usual idiots that pile on these posts happy hollidays. 

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#13 UPDATE Employee

Wrong!!!

AUTHOR: Frick - (United States of America)

Hi I work for lucid management and the company is not a hoax. it is a very real oppertunity for young people who want to make a plan for thier lifes. You just arent willing to put in the effort to make a change in your life. Grow up and work for something for once. Things will no longer just be givin to you you need to learn how to manage an office and know about the company before you get your office. Its not that flipping hard to work for something.

I was on the streets a year ago and this job is helping me to get on my feet and learn how to manage a business. Just because it sounds good doesnt mean its not a true legitamate company. Im happy i took the time to give it a try and do something with my life. "Dont judge a book by its cover" I know you have all heard that saying so dont judge this company and disrespect the owners of the office by saying $#*t that isnt true.

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#14 UPDATE Employee

owner

AUTHOR: Mdwethebest - (U.S.A.)

First off, let me introduce myself. My name is Earley Gaynor, I went through training a year and a half ago in middlesex, new jersey. When I first started I answered the ad just like everyone else. But unlike the other people that I started with, I stuck with it and I finished the program. When I started I was in Job Corp, I was broke and I had no plan in life. I went from job to job to job until finally I answered the ad, Donnie did my first interview and he gave me the opportunity of a lifetime. When I started I had to do some sales (just like everyone else) but instead of quitting, I had to work harder. Long story short I finished the program in ten weeks (two weeks shorter than my goal). I now run a location of my own in Lanham, Maryland, which means I am a promotion of Donnie and Holly's. I now do the same job that they do, I signed up to be a manager and that is exactly what I am. I didn't get in this to do sales (which no one does). Donnie told me that I could make 30K my first year in the first interview. But in my business in its first year, I made $82,000. I feel like I scammed Donnie. People who blow out in their first or second week obviously didn't understand the business. They give anyone, no matter what race,color,gender, or age, the same opportunity they gave me. Free merchandise, free training, (the day you have to pay for something should be a red flag for you no matter what business) and they also give you the opportunity to move to any state with a business for free. Like I said I went through training in New Jersey and I got the freedom to move to Maryland. Any person with a brain can look at all these negative letters and see that people run offices all over the country. So ask yourself, how did they get there? They got promoted there obviously. Running your own business isn't going to happen overnight, it takes more time and dedication to be successful in this and in any business. Anyone who says this is a pyramid scam or that you dont get promoted doesn't know what THE
F*** your talking about. Everyone has the exact same equal opportunity. All it takes to complete training is working hard( for yourself), dedication, and a little blind faith, believing that Donnie and Holly will get you open. I am so confident that I am going to leave my phone number (NOT FOR BLOWOUTS) but for people who actually want some advice on how to run a successful business for Scentura. 240-380-6157 or 240-330-7566. I have alot of respect for Donnie and Holly because if I was in the position, I wouldn't even bother running an office I would retire. They are great people and unbelievable promoting owners. I am 21 years old, I am black and I make decent money. Thanks to Larry Hohn for giving me the opportunity. When an opportunity like this comes your way it isn't about what someone else did or does for you but what you do with the opportunity yourself. See you at the top.
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AUTHOR: Mdwethebest - (U.S.A.)

First off, let me introduce myself. My name is Earley Gaynor, I went through training a year and a half ago in middlesex, new jersey. When I first started I answered the ad just like everyone else. But unlike the other people that I started with, I stuck with it and I finished the program. When I started I was in Job Corp, I was broke and I had no plan in life. I went from job to job to job until finally I answered the ad, Donnie did my first interview and he gave me the opportunity of a lifetime. When I started I had to do some sales (just like everyone else) but instead of quitting, I had to work harder. Long story short I finished the program in ten weeks (two weeks shorter than my goal). I now run a location of my own in Lanham, Maryland, which means I am a promotion of Donnie and Holly's. I now do the same job that they do, I signed up to be a manager and that is exactly what I am. I didn't get in this to do sales (which no one does). Donnie told me that I could make 30K my first year in the first interview. But in my business in its first year, I made $82,000. I feel like I scammed Donnie. People who blow out in their first or second week obviously didn't understand the business. They give anyone, no matter what race,color,gender, or age, the same opportunity they gave me. Free merchandise, free training, (the day you have to pay for something should be a red flag for you no matter what business) and they also give you the opportunity to move to any state with a business for free. Like I said I went through training in New Jersey and I got the freedom to move to Maryland. Any person with a brain can look at all these negative letters and see that people run offices all over the country. So ask yourself, how did they get there? They got promoted there obviously. Running your own business isn't going to happen overnight, it takes more time and dedication to be successful in this and in any business. Anyone who says this is a pyramid scam or that you dont get promoted doesn't know what THE
F*** your talking about. Everyone has the exact same equal opportunity. All it takes to complete training is working hard( for yourself), dedication, and a little blind faith, believing that Donnie and Holly will get you open. I am so confident that I am going to leave my phone number (NOT FOR BLOWOUTS) but for people who actually want some advice on how to run a successful business for Scentura. 240-380-6157 or 240-330-7566. I have alot of respect for Donnie and Holly because if I was in the position, I wouldn't even bother running an office I would retire. They are great people and unbelievable promoting owners. I am 21 years old, I am black and I make decent money. Thanks to Larry Hohn for giving me the opportunity. When an opportunity like this comes your way it isn't about what someone else did or does for you but what you do with the opportunity yourself. See you at the top.
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AUTHOR: Mdwethebest - (U.S.A.)

First off, let me introduce myself. My name is Earley Gaynor, I went through training a year and a half ago in middlesex, new jersey. When I first started I answered the ad just like everyone else. But unlike the other people that I started with, I stuck with it and I finished the program. When I started I was in Job Corp, I was broke and I had no plan in life. I went from job to job to job until finally I answered the ad, Donnie did my first interview and he gave me the opportunity of a lifetime. When I started I had to do some sales (just like everyone else) but instead of quitting, I had to work harder. Long story short I finished the program in ten weeks (two weeks shorter than my goal). I now run a location of my own in Lanham, Maryland, which means I am a promotion of Donnie and Holly's. I now do the same job that they do, I signed up to be a manager and that is exactly what I am. I didn't get in this to do sales (which no one does). Donnie told me that I could make 30K my first year in the first interview. But in my business in its first year, I made $82,000. I feel like I scammed Donnie. People who blow out in their first or second week obviously didn't understand the business. They give anyone, no matter what race,color,gender, or age, the same opportunity they gave me. Free merchandise, free training, (the day you have to pay for something should be a red flag for you no matter what business) and they also give you the opportunity to move to any state with a business for free. Like I said I went through training in New Jersey and I got the freedom to move to Maryland. Any person with a brain can look at all these negative letters and see that people run offices all over the country. So ask yourself, how did they get there? They got promoted there obviously. Running your own business isn't going to happen overnight, it takes more time and dedication to be successful in this and in any business. Anyone who says this is a pyramid scam or that you dont get promoted doesn't know what THE
F*** your talking about. Everyone has the exact same equal opportunity. All it takes to complete training is working hard( for yourself), dedication, and a little blind faith, believing that Donnie and Holly will get you open. I am so confident that I am going to leave my phone number (NOT FOR BLOWOUTS) but for people who actually want some advice on how to run a successful business for Scentura. 240-380-6157 or 240-330-7566. I have alot of respect for Donnie and Holly because if I was in the position, I wouldn't even bother running an office I would retire. They are great people and unbelievable promoting owners. I am 21 years old, I am black and I make decent money. Thanks to Larry Hohn for giving me the opportunity. When an opportunity like this comes your way it isn't about what someone else did or does for you but what you do with the opportunity yourself. See you at the top.
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AUTHOR: Mdwethebest - (U.S.A.)

First off, let me introduce myself. My name is Earley Gaynor, I went through training a year and a half ago in middlesex, new jersey. When I first started I answered the ad just like everyone else. But unlike the other people that I started with, I stuck with it and I finished the program. When I started I was in Job Corp, I was broke and I had no plan in life. I went from job to job to job until finally I answered the ad, Donnie did my first interview and he gave me the opportunity of a lifetime. When I started I had to do some sales (just like everyone else) but instead of quitting, I had to work harder. Long story short I finished the program in ten weeks (two weeks shorter than my goal). I now run a location of my own in Lanham, Maryland, which means I am a promotion of Donnie and Holly's. I now do the same job that they do, I signed up to be a manager and that is exactly what I am. I didn't get in this to do sales (which no one does). Donnie told me that I could make 30K my first year in the first interview. But in my business in its first year, I made $82,000. I feel like I scammed Donnie. People who blow out in their first or second week obviously didn't understand the business. They give anyone, no matter what race,color,gender, or age, the same opportunity they gave me. Free merchandise, free training, (the day you have to pay for something should be a red flag for you no matter what business) and they also give you the opportunity to move to any state with a business for free. Like I said I went through training in New Jersey and I got the freedom to move to Maryland. Any person with a brain can look at all these negative letters and see that people run offices all over the country. So ask yourself, how did they get there? They got promoted there obviously. Running your own business isn't going to happen overnight, it takes more time and dedication to be successful in this and in any business. Anyone who says this is a pyramid scam or that you dont get promoted doesn't know what THE
F*** your talking about. Everyone has the exact same equal opportunity. All it takes to complete training is working hard( for yourself), dedication, and a little blind faith, believing that Donnie and Holly will get you open. I am so confident that I am going to leave my phone number (NOT FOR BLOWOUTS) but for people who actually want some advice on how to run a successful business for Scentura. 240-380-6157 or 240-330-7566. I have alot of respect for Donnie and Holly because if I was in the position, I wouldn't even bother running an office I would retire. They are great people and unbelievable promoting owners. I am 21 years old, I am black and I make decent money. Thanks to Larry Hohn for giving me the opportunity. When an opportunity like this comes your way it isn't about what someone else did or does for you but what you do with the opportunity yourself. See you at the top.
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#18 Consumer Comment

Thank you!

AUTHOR: Needaflippinjob - (U.S.A.)

Thanks to the two guys who wrote this report! I too have been looking for work for MONTHS! I have ran into a couple of scams on craigslist and this one made my spider senses tingle. I am desperate for work, and when I saw this posting I immediately called and set up and interview. I was pumped that I actually had an interview. But something felt wrong. They didn't say what I would be doing or what the pay would be, and the name of the company was not posted. They called me back in 20 mins to confirm my interview time and the guy on the phone said he was from Lucid management. I asked him a few questions and he brushed them aside and said that it would be answered at the interview. NOW I AM VERY SKEPTICAL. But sadly I am also broke and have no way of paying the bills. I decided to GOOGLE Lucid Management and luckily the ripoff report links popped up. I am not going to the interview. I can't get my hopes up just to have them crushed because it is some kind of rip off scheme. Thanks to the guys who posted this. I hope these guys get what they deserve. The search for work in Portland continues.... sigh....
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#19 Consumer Suggestion

Syndicate Management - Portland, OR

AUTHOR: Vonquale - (U.S.A.)

I too nearly fell for this seemingly legitimate Craigslist ad. In my experience with Craigslist, not every post has the business name. Most tell where they are located, neighborhood, city, region, etc., but you usually have to inquire for the actual business name. This particular ad, posted May 18th, 2009, read like any other ad. In business 30 years, wholesale distributor, expanding to the northwest, need office help and management positions filled. I called, they set up an appointment for the next day, and I went in. The building is in a very industrial area, somewhat secluded. The building didn't sit right in my mind, but after 2 months of looking for work, I figured I'd give it a shot. Inside, it was very professional-looking, I felt like I was in an office downtown. Pop music, receptionist desk, comfy chairs, fresh paint, the works. The receptionist sat myself and three or four others down, handed us clipboards. One-page applications, with name, address, phone number, last two employers, and "how would you rate yourself 1-10/how would others rate you 1-10". Signature, and that was it. Everyone, myself included, had brought a resume, dressed for the occasion, and was hopeful for employment, as would anyone these days. We were introduced to a twenty-something named Jeremy, and were told Paul would interview us. They shuffled around, and brought us in three at a time. We went to an office down the hall with Paul, another twenty-something, and sat in front of his large desk. There were two people behind us, Paul said they were managers in training, and they were watching him, not us. He talked about the company, Syndicate Associates, and explained they were in business for 34 years, selling wholesale perfume to stores around the country, had developed in California and the east coast, and were planning a large expansion in the northwest, with 30 locations in Oregon, Washington, Idaho, and Arizona. He explained the jobs offered, basic receptionist/office work, and management over our own office that would eventually be built. We would be over 10-50 people in our office, and would have 8-10 weeks of training. He offered $9.00 an hour for the receptionist position, and a salary of $30,000 + bonuses for the management position. He went over our applications with each of us individually, asked us which position we would like. Before finishing up, asked what our two best qualities were, told us we would get a call by the end of the day, and sent us on our way. I got a call within two hours, saying to come back for another interview, scheduled at noon on May 21st, 2009. I had forgotten the company name, but when they called, I jotted it down. I Google'd "Syndicate Management Portland OR", expecting a company website, and instead got this and dozens of similar posts. I'm not going into the interview tomorrow, but I have notified the local news station, the Better Business Bureau, and intend to file a police report. Today, I went to the office's neighbor, Precision Equipment, a legitimate business, and asked the employees about their neighbors across the street. They told me they'd been there about three months, and about thirty people came and left through those doors. The police had only been there once, for an altercation. He said the head guy would have a warm-up meeting everyday, I believe to be the one named Jeremy, and had just been a nuisance since. They were surprised to know that I was the first person they knew of that actually took some initiative to get these guys out of town. I mentioned the news, and they half-joked "They can park their vans in our parking lot if they want!". I intend to do something about this, I know in my heart that someone in that office with me today is going to that interview tomorrow. I've seen things online connecting these people with sexual harassment, Pyramid schemes, and the Scentura scam in California. Something has to be done, especially if dirtbags are taking advantage of honest people just trying to find a job in a rough economy. I've been looking for a job for two months in the Portland area, and this was the first bite I'd gotten.
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#20 Consumer Suggestion

Syndicate Management - Portland, OR

AUTHOR: Vonquale - (U.S.A.)

I too nearly fell for this seemingly legitimate Craigslist ad. In my experience with Craigslist, not every post has the business name. Most tell where they are located, neighborhood, city, region, etc., but you usually have to inquire for the actual business name. This particular ad, posted May 18th, 2009, read like any other ad. In business 30 years, wholesale distributor, expanding to the northwest, need office help and management positions filled. I called, they set up an appointment for the next day, and I went in. The building is in a very industrial area, somewhat secluded. The building didn't sit right in my mind, but after 2 months of looking for work, I figured I'd give it a shot. Inside, it was very professional-looking, I felt like I was in an office downtown. Pop music, receptionist desk, comfy chairs, fresh paint, the works. The receptionist sat myself and three or four others down, handed us clipboards. One-page applications, with name, address, phone number, last two employers, and "how would you rate yourself 1-10/how would others rate you 1-10". Signature, and that was it. Everyone, myself included, had brought a resume, dressed for the occasion, and was hopeful for employment, as would anyone these days. We were introduced to a twenty-something named Jeremy, and were told Paul would interview us. They shuffled around, and brought us in three at a time. We went to an office down the hall with Paul, another twenty-something, and sat in front of his large desk. There were two people behind us, Paul said they were managers in training, and they were watching him, not us. He talked about the company, Syndicate Associates, and explained they were in business for 34 years, selling wholesale perfume to stores around the country, had developed in California and the east coast, and were planning a large expansion in the northwest, with 30 locations in Oregon, Washington, Idaho, and Arizona. He explained the jobs offered, basic receptionist/office work, and management over our own office that would eventually be built. We would be over 10-50 people in our office, and would have 8-10 weeks of training. He offered $9.00 an hour for the receptionist position, and a salary of $30,000 + bonuses for the management position. He went over our applications with each of us individually, asked us which position we would like. Before finishing up, asked what our two best qualities were, told us we would get a call by the end of the day, and sent us on our way. I got a call within two hours, saying to come back for another interview, scheduled at noon on May 21st, 2009. I had forgotten the company name, but when they called, I jotted it down. I Google'd "Syndicate Management Portland OR", expecting a company website, and instead got this and dozens of similar posts. I'm not going into the interview tomorrow, but I have notified the local news station, the Better Business Bureau, and intend to file a police report. Today, I went to the office's neighbor, Precision Equipment, a legitimate business, and asked the employees about their neighbors across the street. They told me they'd been there about three months, and about thirty people came and left through those doors. The police had only been there once, for an altercation. He said the head guy would have a warm-up meeting everyday, I believe to be the one named Jeremy, and had just been a nuisance since. They were surprised to know that I was the first person they knew of that actually took some initiative to get these guys out of town. I mentioned the news, and they half-joked "They can park their vans in our parking lot if they want!". I intend to do something about this, I know in my heart that someone in that office with me today is going to that interview tomorrow. I've seen things online connecting these people with sexual harassment, Pyramid schemes, and the Scentura scam in California. Something has to be done, especially if dirtbags are taking advantage of honest people just trying to find a job in a rough economy. I've been looking for a job for two months in the Portland area, and this was the first bite I'd gotten.
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#21 Consumer Suggestion

Syndicate Management - Portland, OR

AUTHOR: Vonquale - (U.S.A.)

I too nearly fell for this seemingly legitimate Craigslist ad. In my experience with Craigslist, not every post has the business name. Most tell where they are located, neighborhood, city, region, etc., but you usually have to inquire for the actual business name. This particular ad, posted May 18th, 2009, read like any other ad. In business 30 years, wholesale distributor, expanding to the northwest, need office help and management positions filled. I called, they set up an appointment for the next day, and I went in. The building is in a very industrial area, somewhat secluded. The building didn't sit right in my mind, but after 2 months of looking for work, I figured I'd give it a shot. Inside, it was very professional-looking, I felt like I was in an office downtown. Pop music, receptionist desk, comfy chairs, fresh paint, the works. The receptionist sat myself and three or four others down, handed us clipboards. One-page applications, with name, address, phone number, last two employers, and "how would you rate yourself 1-10/how would others rate you 1-10". Signature, and that was it. Everyone, myself included, had brought a resume, dressed for the occasion, and was hopeful for employment, as would anyone these days. We were introduced to a twenty-something named Jeremy, and were told Paul would interview us. They shuffled around, and brought us in three at a time. We went to an office down the hall with Paul, another twenty-something, and sat in front of his large desk. There were two people behind us, Paul said they were managers in training, and they were watching him, not us. He talked about the company, Syndicate Associates, and explained they were in business for 34 years, selling wholesale perfume to stores around the country, had developed in California and the east coast, and were planning a large expansion in the northwest, with 30 locations in Oregon, Washington, Idaho, and Arizona. He explained the jobs offered, basic receptionist/office work, and management over our own office that would eventually be built. We would be over 10-50 people in our office, and would have 8-10 weeks of training. He offered $9.00 an hour for the receptionist position, and a salary of $30,000 + bonuses for the management position. He went over our applications with each of us individually, asked us which position we would like. Before finishing up, asked what our two best qualities were, told us we would get a call by the end of the day, and sent us on our way. I got a call within two hours, saying to come back for another interview, scheduled at noon on May 21st, 2009. I had forgotten the company name, but when they called, I jotted it down. I Google'd "Syndicate Management Portland OR", expecting a company website, and instead got this and dozens of similar posts. I'm not going into the interview tomorrow, but I have notified the local news station, the Better Business Bureau, and intend to file a police report. Today, I went to the office's neighbor, Precision Equipment, a legitimate business, and asked the employees about their neighbors across the street. They told me they'd been there about three months, and about thirty people came and left through those doors. The police had only been there once, for an altercation. He said the head guy would have a warm-up meeting everyday, I believe to be the one named Jeremy, and had just been a nuisance since. They were surprised to know that I was the first person they knew of that actually took some initiative to get these guys out of town. I mentioned the news, and they half-joked "They can park their vans in our parking lot if they want!". I intend to do something about this, I know in my heart that someone in that office with me today is going to that interview tomorrow. I've seen things online connecting these people with sexual harassment, Pyramid schemes, and the Scentura scam in California. Something has to be done, especially if dirtbags are taking advantage of honest people just trying to find a job in a rough economy. I've been looking for a job for two months in the Portland area, and this was the first bite I'd gotten.
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