- Report: #1056141
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Complaint Review: Luis Carlos Skinfill Moran
Luis Carlos Skinfill Moran44250 Manzanita Lane Big Bear City, California USA
Luis Carlos Skinfill Moran, Gabriela Moreno DeLara, EXODUS CYMBALS, Ruben Silva Fraud, conning money, breach of contract Big Bear City California
*UPDATE Employee ..inside information: New Company address for Exodus / Skinfill
*Consumer Comment: Carlos Skinfill / Exodus cymbals links for consumer help.
*Consumer Comment: Your a joke!
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Official REBUTTAL
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Luis Carlos Skinfill Moran and wife Gabriela Moreno DeLara of Exodus Cymbals are involved in fraudulent behavior. Carlos is in the United States from Mexico on a work visa as a pastor. He does not have a church but uses God and religion thru the internet TV Worship Channel to prove to people he is a Christian and gain trust and receive donations. The Skinfills have lived in Cancun, Mexico, then Florida, then up to Canada, then Phillips Ranch, California, and now Big Bear, California since late 2011.
Carlos (and one time along with Ruben Silva) first befriend people to gain trust, then ask for a small loan for a short time at high interest to help with his and Gabi's new company, Exodus Cymbals. They pay back the first small loans, then keep asking for larger amounts of money for "Big Cymbal Deals/Contracts", to be paid back after the cymbals are made in Turkey and shipped to America - between three to six months.
The promissary note payments are never made and the excuses start. Customs is holding the shipment to examine it because Turkey is a communist country. The bank is holding the check. The IRS has put a freeze on his bank account until he gets a TIN. Meanwhile, Carlos drives a Mercedes, and Gabriela drives a Lexus. Recently a Hummer was added.
After his taxes were done, Carlos boasted to me that he made "more than Obama -$700,000." He said that soon the IRS would release his bank account, and everyone would be paid. NOT....
There are four of us in Big Bear that know each other and are owed over $300,000 total. None of us has received a payment for over 6 months and for one of us, it has been a full year. Together, we have gotten a lawyer because we do not want to see these people con any more people. It is upsetting psychologically, financially, and like the report on 2-5-13 said, very time consuming.
This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 06/03/2013 09:38 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Luis-Carlos-Skinfill-Moran-/Big-Bear-City-California-92314/Luis-Carlos-Skinfill-Moran-Gabriela-Moreno-DeLara-EXODUS-CYMBALS-Ruben-Silva-Fraud-c-1056141. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.
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