MARKETING SESSIONS - SBC - Cydcor - MICHAEL SESSIONS IS A CON ARTIST, BIGGEST SCAM, NO PAY, LONG HOURS, LOSE YOUR FRIENDS Oakbrook Illinois

It sounds. Like you just sucked at the sales part of things. Not really their fault but maybe you should've paid more attention during traing??? The reason I say this is because I am a leader who is just about to be promoted and I've gotten all of my checks on time and so hav all of my guys

Everything everyone is saying about the company and each of its affiliates are true. I know because I worked for the company for quite some time now. This reply is for the lawyer who is trying to pursue the company and wants to shut them down. I want to help with your investigation please contact me so I can share all the information I can

I am writing in regards to the posts created concerning Cydcor and all their network offices throughout North America. After reading the posts from former employees, current employees and former interviewers I have to say everyone makes great points. Is the job for everyone, No. I personally went through the ranks and made the jump to "management" and want to inform any current employee or future employee of what exactly Cydcor is all about and how they use young people.

I'm not going to go into the interviewing practices and the companies atmosphere because everything everyone has posted is factual. Cydcor and its hundreds of branches is a pure PYRAMID scam - its simple as that. If that works for an individual, best of luck but to most young kids out of school they don't know any better. They are looking to jump start a career which COULD happen with an office but as stated maybe 1% make it to so called "management" and "ownership."

So you have the executives who have been there from the beginning. They strike deals with these companies to represent them - AT&T, QUILL, QWEST Etc.. their pitch - let us sell your services and you only pay us when we sell. At that point they assign these companies to the markets in which they need further rmarket share. That's where the sales force - feet on the street, come in - One sells 3 business lines to JUICE Inc. AT&T contractually agrees to pay CYDCOR ( not the branch office ) $50.00 for each line sold. You the sales person makes $33.00 a line, the office makes $10 a line and where does the rest go? You got it...$7.00 or whatever their commission goes to Cydcor. At that point they then commission $3.00 to the VP of his or her team and so on. Everyone gets a piece of the pie. That's how they make the money they do - figure Cydcor has 5,000 reps on the street in N America - 5,000 lines sold a day x $3.00 to Cydcor 7.00 to VP of his team 10 to the manager 33.00 to you the rep = NOT BAD! That's how pyrmaid scams work.

FACTS
- Avg age of reps 23-26
- They do not withhold taxes
- 100% commission
- No employee health care - on your own - that may change now with branches of 50 or more with national health care law
- No dental - on your own
- No retirement plan options - on your own
- No expense reimbursement - on your own
- Hours - Mon-Fri 7 AM - 6 PM some offices work Sat depending upon client
- Have to wait 2 weeks for 1st pay check
- Have to wear a suit
- Its Business to Business COLD CALLING
- Expect 1-2 stops to close a sale
- The markets and territories are saturated
- People stand in a circle and clap - high fiving on sales - ring a bell/gong - LAME!
- If you dont give in to the culture, become involved in company outings, question management on practices - you will be forced out
- Calling in sick raises red flags
- Being late you may be scolded
- Lots of partying - hooking up with employees - like any company but Cydcor and branches dont care as long as you sell
- Build your team off of management interviews - sell them on day interview - get them starting - retain them to build your team
- Typically need 5-7 team member who then need 3-4 of their own members - maintain team sales - promote you to assistant manager
- Manager then calculates team commissions and sets up a fund for you to start your own branch
- Promoted to management enough money is made to open office - typically $15,000
- Give you 3 city options to move with your 5 team members - to question them on not wanting to move will be fround upon - they will say your not dedicated or some BS
- Convince 5 team members to move with you to start your office and assign you a client in that city
- No expenses paid - moving, gas etc... ON YOUR OWN
- Then you start a company, legally under your name and tax number and pay the fees and taxes as any normal small business
- BUT your manager, his her manager and so on to the top all make a dime off your office sales. BUT you need to pay the taxes of course not Cydcor!!
- They suck you in with good times, meeting BS celebrities, pretend to give back to the community to try and make them look legit

Like people have stated they sell the dream and I know not 1 person who I started with there - we all made it to management - that are still with Cydcor. As you get older you realize what your involved with and you move on - as hard as you had worked, time you dedicated, debt you brought forth - the executives don't care - they say - NEXT! As long as the doors keep moving and sales come in the door through young people they keep making money.

So, if that's the atmosphere for you and you want to give it a run, I wish you luck but be aware, do not trust them!! They will stab you in the back to save face and their ass - remember they are as brain washed as the reps but at least making good money. Dont ever forget 1% - Its very very hard to make it to that level like in any other position with any other company. I personally have found you can find wonderful companies in outside sales that give you growth opportunities, benefits, retirement plan, security, support - Don't fall for the BS dream they sell and dont listen to anyone who tells you that you can make 6 figures so quickly - if its too good to be true, it most likely is AKA CYDCOR and all their offices. Good luck!

The people that posted stuff on here that still work there say what they say because they work there. I am a lawyer working on getting all of these deceitful Cydcor associated offices shut down. Michael Sessions is one of the big names that come up in my investigations daily. Take a look at this report done on Cydcor and its associated companies and it may change you current employees minds. The system works for some, maybe 1 % max if that. Thousands of people go through these Cydcor offices yearly, maybe one out of every 10 offices ever makes 6 figures like they claim to all make. Hopefully you get out before its too late. My deepest regards go to you all.

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Hi -- I was also a member of Cydcor and while I really hated working there, I am trying to get in touch with someone who knows the 4s, 5s, and 8s. I remember some of them and i think they're very crucial to being very successful in an honest business.

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Most of us are not talking about the techniques of making commission B to B or B to C sales here. If this was advertised from the get-go as a commission only sales job focusing on sales, we would not have a problem with it. The problem is that Cydcor and other DS MAX spawn use shady recruitment and retention practices, and bad labor practices. I know that bad labor practices vary from office to office, but they do exist, and they do make you do a lot of unpaid work outside of doing sales. The shady recruitment and retention practices (Cult like environment) are par for the course for ALL Cydcor/DS MAX offices. Finally, it took over a month to see my first paycheck, and I was not making enough to live on even though I was making enough sales to lead and train.

The DS MAX sales system (the 4's, 5's, and 8's), if used correctly in a legit business, is effective. That is not what most of us are talking about here.

I am sorry that you had a bad experience with the firm, however I've been with the company for three years now and my life has changed for the better. It's not brainwashing, it's training you to think differently about normal approaches.

1. Practice pitching, why? BECAUSE YOUR GAME IS AS ONLY AS GOOD AS YOUR PRACTICE. I wouldn't have gotten better on the field without practice pitch because it taught me to reword and handle situations for future use.

2. Your check, yes, it is COMMISSION ONLY but that's the beauty of it, it proves how much you are worth. If you can't make it on a commission only job, what does that say about you? The harder I work, the more money I make. Yes, this may take a month before I cut my first 1,000 dollar check in a week, but when I did it's joy, knowing now that I can do it, every week afterwards, my checks were higher and higher.

3. Coaching, it's not talking down to you. We all started in the same position. In order for this company to grow, you much teach others. You must humble yourself and be willing to be coached and follow the best. As soon as I developed my student mentality, that's when I started seeing results.

4. It is a professional business environment. I am sorry if it's not CORPORATE AMERICA but we do handle ourselves professionally.

Just because your experience didn't go the way you were told, it only means that this opportunity wasn't for YOU. I've seen so many people come and go in this company, for I've now branched out on my own, the ones who've left, clearly means that this wasn't for them. Not every job is cut out for a person. If everyone could do this, then there would be no opportunity.

im mikes 4th gen. i love my job and it aint a cult

I totally agree with you on the fact that that business is not for everybody. However they do not let you know that til weeks after you have started. Michael Sessions has a history of selling the dream. He tells each and every person that comes into his office that we have a management training program and I will show you how to make money. Does he tell people that in order to do well you will have to kiss his ass? Does he tell people that he will get you your own company, however he will make sure he controls every aspect of it so you might have papers saying you own a company but in reality, your company is owned by Cydcor and Sessions. He doesn't tell you that does he. Hard work will get you far, just not with Cydcor.

Bill Bill. These types of positions are not for the faint of heart. I understand where you're coming from b/c I used to work for one of these businesses. I don't anymore b/c I realized after working there that I didn't want to be a manager but just wanted to be in sales. The thing you've got to realize Bill is just b/c something doesn't work out or you're not successful at it doesn't mean you go calling it a scam or blaming other people. Everything in your life starts and begins with you. If you aren't willing to cold call and you don't have the drive or confidence for a position like this then thats fine move on and go find a desk job. Just realize what you're getting yourself into when applying for positions as such. As long as you know what to expect there won't be any surprises. But now you know what to look out for and it sounds like you're probably better off where you're at now. Obviously door-to-door selling is not the ideal job for anyone but here the final goal is management. And I can say it isn't easy to get there but at least take what you learned there and apply it in future situations. Thats what I did.

"The only disability in life is a bad attitude."