- Report: #365834
Report - Rebuttal - Arbitrate
Complaint Review: MOVING SCAM - THE BIGGEST RIP OFF IN THE MOVING INDUSTRY
MOVING SCAM - THE BIGGEST RIP OFF IN THE MOVING INDUSTRYwww.movingscam.com Internet U.S.A.
MOVING SCAM - THE BIGGEST RIP OFF IN THE MOVING INDUSTRY *** TIM WALKER, CONSUMERS FIRST CORP., SHARON BAYOLO, FARRAH LEIGHWANNER, DIANE Last Name Unknown, MOVING SCAM - THE BIGGEST RIP OFF IN THE MOVING INDUSTRY *** TIM WALKER, CONSUMERS FIRST CORP.,SHARON BAYOLO, FARRAH LEIGHWANNER, DIANE last name unknown, Internet
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Rainier Overseas Movers A+ Rating Since 1979
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: BBB A+ Rated Rainier Overseas Movers Five Stars
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I AM POSTING THIS on the Rip Off report website, because Rip Off report site is legitimate
Consumers can post their complaints and in most cases have the complaint completely resolved. This website also allows the corporations to respond and state their case. RIP OFF is not bias because the owners here have no monetary gain. I found that Rip off Report has been very fair in handling any complaints, and did not slander people
Unfortunately another website targeted toward MOVING tries to mimic the Rip off Report .
Not only is this site BIAS. They are making a fortune by redirecting innocent customers to their sponsoring moving companies
Movingscam.com its owner, mediators and profile holders are promoting and recommending four International Movers on their web site FOR REFERAL FEES that they are receiving from these four companies.
Movingscam.com its owner, mediators and profile holders are trashing any other company involved in the International Moving (including all of our known competitors, some of them we know are excellent companies operating for 20 years in this field)
These experts repeatedly advise the public about companies not being licensed by the FMC and operate illegally, when in fact, these companies are licensed
Falsely slandering and tarnishing peoples good name and reputation Advising horrible facts and fictitious stories for example; a criminal fugitive residing in same apartment as one of our competitors
To summarize this important issue:
It is obvious that a major part of the postings on this web site are generated by unscrupulous individuals and companies with their own economic interests at heart, trying to steer away potential customers and direct them for their own benefit.
Some individuals may follow the advice, recommendations and this fantastic information
In particular one member MUSIC MOM -- Sharon Bayolo
One of our moving consultants drew my attention to the lengthy communication and the advice given on this site by one Music Mom whose real name is Sharon Bayolo to a guest.
Sharon Bayolo AKA Music mom uses Slanderous unfounded information against individuals, and scare tactics against people who I know are very reputable.
It is amazing how ONE sided her point of view is when it comes to MOVING companies on their THAT PAY Moving Scam REFERAL FEES.
THE MOST NATORIOUS MOVING COMPANIES are not even mentioned in moving scam
I know of several instances that a complaint against a Sponsoring company was posted and then completely removed
Although TIM claims that any company can respond to a complaint. Any legitimate response from a company that does not pay or sponsor to moving scam is REMOVED
And to top it all
See highlighted the posting directly from moving Scam ADMITTING they get paid to slander people
Is not this a beauty?: In the interest of full disclosure:- Moving Scam is receiving a referral fee from the four moving companies listed above for every move with them that is booked from this website
Promoting 4 companies for financial gain and trashing nearly any other knowing International Mover?.
Providing Emailed recommendations? a private shipper out of appreciation, search the net and found Moving scam and than put all the time to email Recommendation email I don't think so
More likely the competing companies involves are spending the time fabricating Recommendation Emails and also trashing their competitors
This is quoted directly from their site :
Some companies that have done a good job for people posting on MovingScam.com are the following:
Rainier Overseas Movers at www.rainieros.com, 800-422-5440 (ask for Doug or email him - doug at rainieros.com)
Security Storage Company at www.wemove4u.com, 800-345-0673 (ask for Michael or email him - mz at wemove4u.com). Michael is the "Michael Zlotnik" who wrote the article on International Moving on the Links page and he also posts here as "Michael"--in fact, he has been an unpaid volunteer here for longer than almost everyone else on this website.
Sterling International at www.sterlinginternational.com, 302-762-2896 (ask for Phil or email him - phil at sterlinginternational.com)
Stevens International at www.stevensworldwide.com, 260-244-7004 (ask for Michelle or email her - michelle.dillon at stevensworldwide.com)
(Please restore @ for "at" in the above addresses before emailing.) In the interest of full disclosure:- MovingScam is receiving a referral fee from the four moving companies listed above for every move with them that is booked from this website Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 11:26 pm Post subject: Reviews of international movers (June 2004 to present)
Please note that any complaints on the above 4 companies were dismissed or deleted
TO SUM IT ALL UP
I have contact the FBI the following two points:
1. The issue of www.movingscam.com generating revenue from referring customers to the four un-trashed Movers. And violation to the law .
2. The issue of www.movingscam.com its owner, mediators and profiles owners advertising misleading and false information about licensees. Laws and INDIVIDUALS. With full intent to maliciously damage their good name and business
3. We consulted with a group of attorneys and are in the process of initating class action lawsuit against Movingscam.com , its owner, mediators and profile holders for deformation of character slander and liable I will post all contact details for all that are interested
I am not opposing the right for anyone to voice the opinion nor are we debating our constitutional right fro freedom of speech.
Moving scam is actually breaking the law by slandering innocent people FOR FINANCIAL GAIN ONLY FULL STOP
They are not the consumers advocate nor do they allow the freedom of speech on their website. Every legitimate company that tried to respond to any complaint had their postings REMOVED .. So this is not a case of voicing an opinion or a complaint.
Most of the postings are done by Moving owner, mediators and profile holders. (NOT FROM CONSUMERS) The Sole purpose of trashing any other company involved in the moving industry is FOR FINANCIAL GAIN (as they are being paid off)
In the most recent LAWSUIT against Tim Walker and Moving Scam:
Nationwide Relocation Services v. Walker
Summary Threat Type: Lawsuit Date: 07/11/2007
Status: Concluded Location: Florida
Moving company Nationwide Relocation Services ("Nationwide") sued Tim Walker, Walker's company, Consumers First Corp., which runs the MovingScam.com website, and several contributors to the MovingScam.com forum after Walker and the other contributors criticized the company's services. According to the complaint, the website used the trademarks of Nationwide and other moving companies without permission and published statements indicating that Nationwide engaged in "scams," while at the same time trying to induce customers to purchase moving-related products and services from the site and its advertisers. Nationwide sued for false advertising, trademark infringement, unfair competition, defamation, and tortuous interference with business relationships in Florida federal court.
Defendants Sharon Bayolo and Farrah Leigh Wanner each moved to dismiss, Bayolo for lack of jurisdiction and Wanner for failure to state a claim. As a result, Nationwide amended its complaint, and the court denied the motions as moot.
In October 2007, Walker and Consumers First moved to dismiss for improper venue, failure to state a claim, and lack of personal jurisdiction. The court denied the motions, finding that Walker and Consumers First specifically targeted the Southern District of Florida in operation of the website, thereby establishing jurisdiction and venue, and that Nationwide's claims were sufficiently stated.
In April 2008, Nationwide amended its complaint again, and the defendants Walker, Consumer First, and Wanner filed an answer.
8/6/2008 - The parties settled the case.
Court documents prove that MOVINGSCAM is benefiting from this Industry (ALL PUBLIC RECORD) and that they do accept $$ for redirecting customers to a few SELECTED Paying companies
I believe in the justice system AND this is not a lost cause
NY, New York
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