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Complaint Review: MRI Overseas Property

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  • Submitted: Sat, October 23, 2010
  • Updated: Fri, November 19, 2010

  • Reported By: Fisherman. — Internet United Kingdom
MRI Overseas Property
Spain and Bulgaria Nationwide United States of America

MRI Overseas Property DCC Overseas Property MRI Carries on in other guises. Bulgaria, Nationwide

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: P.S

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: CORRECTION

*General Comment: GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT FISHERMAN

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Why I Am Suddenly Implicated In This?

*Author of original report: Ex MRI staff carry on cons with the help of MRI-SG

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I am an avid property investor, and managed to steer clear of MRI, and their lawyers, financial advisers, furniture people etc. Unfortunately one of my friends was caught out in Bulgaria. 


They tried to post this story on the MRI-SG website, and was denied as one of the moderators was friends with whom she was reporting. 



I myself was caught out by Nigel and Margaret 'Mags' Andrews. Fortunately I only paid a small reservation deposit. The link below tells the story:






The reason for my posting is simple - the MRI-SG is against the few people at the top of the tree, granted they stole the most but they are a few individuals. The net is much larger. Think of the people that were on the front line. The gophers that drove all the victims around professing to be property experts, and working for a multinational. Lying about rentals, and guestimated future values. The very sales people on the ground were party to this as well. They were taught how to bully and hard sell - they showed no remorse, chasing the almighty dollar. They were provided nice cars and offices to operate from, to line the pockets of their superiors - no doubt thinking they were impressing them. Everyone that worked there were to blame, the sales people, the after sales people, the exhibition people, in addition to the directors.



Now, Nigel and 'Mags' Andrews took Nigel's experience at MRI and ran their own scam, along similar lines to a certain furniture one. Had any action against mri been successful, potentially the other employees would have been named, and would have helped people avoid being conned again (a la Nigel Andrews). 



All I ask is that people be very wary, the very leeches that worked for DM are now operating much smaller operations, they are trained to be sincere and believable. To have a 'genuine' story (sales pitch). Remember they are just after your money - they saw DM make it and thought now it is my turn. If they were not greedy, have no morals or the intelligence to understand what they are doing is wrong then they would not have 'worked' for companies such as MRI.



Mr friend E*** (Bulgaria buyer) has established that the following individuals are operating in Bulgaria still



Vince Reavies a convicted felon (charged in the USA, and subsequently unable to return) RE gun and drugs charges. E*** cannot remember the company he is working for. 



Neil of LN Group Management ex employee of MRI Bulgaria is still operating there - not content with running a con there already he has stayed on to carry on his own one. 



E*** is sure there are many others but she wanted to get this started - spread the word, if someone knows of ex mri stooges still working advise here and make a list. Lets try to stop another Nigel Andrews conning more people (to take over 1,000,000 after all the press about property scams, shows there are plenty more people falling for the seemingly honest genuine blags) 



I hope this helps, maybe one day ALL the people accountable will be given the treatment they deserve, and the pain and anguish caused will be inflicted back on them. 



E R & F.



 

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#1 REBUTTAL Individual responds

P.S

AUTHOR: Michele - (United States of America)

By the way Fisherman,

Why are you hiding behind a Pseudonym?

As you claim to know so much, then at the very least reveal your "real name".

My name is Michele Norcup.

You can find me on the MRI-SG forum if you care to join it (I do not hide my name on there, or my email address).

Let me know what you think.

 

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#2 REBUTTAL Individual responds

CORRECTION

AUTHOR: Michele - (United States of America)

I am actually reporting on my own posting, because it states that I am from the USA.

That is an error (no doubt on my part!), I am actually from the UK, and I live in the UK.

 

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#3 General Comment

GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT FISHERMAN

AUTHOR: Michele - (United States of America)

I don't know where you get the idea from that MRI-SG is supporting MRI? (you really should have done your homework and pressed your friend E*** for more facts before you posted your silly comments). Maybe you think that MRI-SG is actually supporting MRI??  MRI-SG is a private forum-SG stands for Support Group (that supports all members, 1229 to date) that have been ripped off by MRI!  I can tell you now, that there are potential legal actions in place as I type this response to you, I know this for sure because I have joined the legal groups.


We have a Furniture Action Group that will be moving forward shortly, and we also have a potential action against Martinez Echevarria (you have mentioned this in one of your postings, which refers to Dave A E and his 2homeswap link).  Dave A E is actually a qualified UK lawyer that is giving his time and knowledge for free to all of the forum members that have been ripped off by MRI/ME/LI.


We also have a Spanish lawyer that is assessing our cases for free.


Please feel free to respond to my post, but make sure that you have got you facts completely correct.  Here are my facts-


I am an active member of the forum that is MRI-SG (I have been since February 2010).  Because of my activity on MRI-SG I have been patronised, intimidated and threatened with legal action by Dominic Pickering and Dean Masters (that now represent themselves as MRI).  They could not sink any lower in my opinion, but they could surprise me I suppose.  I have given up worrying what they may try and do next.


If you want to look up the facts for yourself, then you only need to go to the MRI-SG website.  You don't even have to become a member, there is a public blog that will clarify what I have already told you.


I anticipate your response. 

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#4 REBUTTAL Individual responds

Why I Am Suddenly Implicated In This?

AUTHOR: dave_a_e - (United Kingdom)

I am David Edwards, or daveae, as referred to in Fisherman's report, and own a site called swap2ndhome dot com. It is in no way affiliated with LN Group. I recommend LN Group on this site in a personal capacity as I was once a client of LN Group and it offered me good, cheap service.

I am not merely a legal advisor, I am a solicitor with four years of law school under my belt and another four years of legal training. There are no MScs in Property Investment, so I am not sure how one 'qualifies' in advising people in relation to investing abroad, nor does my site state I have anything other than my own experience (and legal knowledge) upon which to draw.

Fisherman seems to have made the somewhat logic-defying leap that, because I blogged on my site that I was happy with LN Group's services, this in some way reflects badly on my integrity. It does not. I have no idea of what service LN Group may have offered Fisherman in the past but would have thought that, if there was any basis to Fisherman's complaints, he might at least have contacted me before posting that 'The plot thickens' in relation to me. Who am I meant to be, Professor Moriaty?
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#5 Author of original report

Ex MRI staff carry on cons with the help of MRI-SG

AUTHOR: Fisherman. - (United Kingdom)

The plot thickens. 

So the mri-sg website, and one of their moderators dave_a_e have been promoting a site, swap a second home. It turns out dave_a_e is in some capacity a legal advisor, and was duped by mri. He has set up the swap home website, and advertises the LN Group team on it. Again in my first report they are owned and ran by ex 'employees' of mri. 

This then led me to dave-a-e's website - think (((Redacted))) but not as glossy or as arrrogant. 

Why does the mri-sg's legal advisor/report writer support the very people that cheated the people on his other site. I would also not profess to being able to give people advice on property investment matters, when you are in co-hoots of sorts with ex mri staff who are equally unqualified as you. 

I have no other news on Nigel or Mags Andrews. 

R


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