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  • Submitted: Thu, November 17, 2011
  • Updated: Thu, March 07, 2013

  • Reported By: outraged — san diego California United States of America
Mader Law Group
1800 old okeechobee blvd suite 103 West Palm Beach, Florida United States of America

Mader Law Group Sean Batchelor Modification Scam! West Palm Beach, Florida

*Consumer Comment: bbb is a total scam!

*Consumer Comment: Mader/Mortgage Relief blah blah blah IS a rip off

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Help

*Consumer Comment: BBB rates Mader Law Group F

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Hoax

*Consumer Comment: Mader Law - Beware!

*Consumer Comment: Eric Mader Going To Trial

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: This company will SCAM you

*Consumer Suggestion: To Those Ripped Off By Mader Law Group

*Consumer Suggestion: Here is the link for BBB

*Consumer Comment: Thank you.

*Consumer Comment: BBB Report on Mader in WPB

*Consumer Comment: I too got ripped off

*Consumer Comment: Absolutely Incredible

*UPDATE Employee: WHY AN A RATING REBUTTAL

*Consumer Comment: Why The BBB Has A High Rating Of Mader Law

*Consumer Comment: From The Page Of The Florida Attorney General

*Consumer Comment: Florida Not Happy With Horizon Financial and Mader Law Group

*UPDATE Employee: AGAIN ANOTHER HOAX COMPLAINT

*Consumer Comment: The BBB & Mader Law Group

*UPDATE Employee: Complaint Follow Up

*UPDATE Employee: HOAX COMPLAINT

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Mader Law Group said they would get me a loan modification and they screwed me over! I was told I qualified for a modification and they haven't done anything. They took my money and didn't do anything for me. I had problems getting someone to call me back and answer my questions. I now have a sale date and I am loosing my home! They said not to make any mortgage payments while I was getting a modification and not to worry! BEWARE - SCAM!

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#1 Consumer Comment

bbb is a total scam!

AUTHOR: ericbradshawhouston - ()

You cant even trust the BBB anymore.. Fraud Alert!! BBB is a Scam! Pay for Grades even if youre a scam business the bbb will give you and A+rating so you can continue ripping people off!!

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THIS IS HOW THE BBB OPERATES. THIS COMPANY HAS PAGES AND PAGES OF RIP OFF REPORTS. OVER 200 COMPLAINTS WITH THE BBB AND YET EVEN THOUGH THIS COMPANY IS UNDER INVESTIGATION WITH THE SECRET SERVICE FOR CREDIT CARD FRAUD THE BBB GIVES THEM AN A+RATING SO THEY CAN CONTINUE RIPPING FOLKS OFF AND PAYING THE BBB FOR THE GRADE!!!

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#2 Consumer Comment

Mader/Mortgage Relief blah blah blah IS a rip off

AUTHOR: Betsie - ()

To address the "employee"s unhapiness with the complaint filed by the person in San Diego- It's the TRUTH- Your company preys on vulnerable people who are having financial difficulties-

Your company claims to be able to STOP FORECLOSURES and to have the monthly payments greatly reduced-
(Remember the old addage, "If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is")  Well, people who are facing public sales of their homes, due to back door mortgage companies selling contracts to Shapiro & Kirsh in Memphis who are ONLY IN THE BUSINESS to foreclose on homes...sadly look to the internet for help, and are caught in the trap of "false advertising"..just like the ones Mader/ MRSC web pages have.

Requesting an up front retainer fee of well over $3, 500 from people who are struggling to make ends meet, is pathetic!! And then when your company drops the ball, falling short on the babbling promises you've made...then you send a letter out telling the compliantant that you are keeping their $$$>

That is despicable-
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#3 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Help

AUTHOR: Jen - ()

Contact the Florida bar and attorney generals office
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#4 Consumer Comment

BBB rates Mader Law Group F

AUTHOR: StopRescueScams - (USA)

Their work is catching up with them.  The BBB rates Mader Law Group F and the State Bar of Florida is investigating them.  If you have a complaint against Mader Law Group -- no matter how old -- contact the State Bar of Florida.
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#5 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Hoax

AUTHOR: Jen - (United States of America)

I agree this company is awful! I am blind and they took my money also with no services rendered. I have all the recorded calls from the office calls including the call they made to me from there personal cell phones. I am turning it all over to the Fl. Bar and Attorney Generals office if my money is not returned to me.
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#6 Consumer Comment

Mader Law - Beware!

AUTHOR: Tammy Rodriguez - (United States of America)

I am furious by the employee comment to the consumers complaint. I am also a consumer that had the exact same thing happen to me. I was charged for services that were never rendered. All evidence is clearly stated in emails, so it is documented. The BBB has been contacted, as well as the Attorney General's office. I was charged $2500 for "services" that were never provided. I requested a refund after I found out that suddenly I was no longer eligible for the home loan modification and was told that I could only get a partial refund because I didn't provide accurate information to them. Oddly enough, I provided exactly what was asked of me, down to reading off from my paystub what I was told to check. They are scam artists that should be ashamed of themselves. Instead of providing supports to struggling families, they are taking away the small nest egg left for emergencies. I won't write it in the paragraph, but there are no positive words to express the extreme upset and frustration this company has caused me and so many others. I will continue fighting to get my money back (and others out there who have been put in the same situation. Shame on you!
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#7 Consumer Comment

Eric Mader Going To Trial

AUTHOR: Randy - (United States of America)

We can get these people.  A while back I complained with the Florida Bar regarding Eric Mader of Mader Law Group.  The Florida Bar paid attention and Eric Andrew Mader will be going to trial in the Supreme Court of Florida on February 5, 2013.  If you've been ripped off by Mader, contact the Florida Bar and let them know.

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#8 REBUTTAL Owner of company

This company will SCAM you

AUTHOR: Jen - (United States of America)

This company promises to do home modifications, but they do no such thing! They take your money and then you will not hear from them again. I am blind and they did this exact thing to me. They have a case against them in Missouri ands hey are under investigation by The Attorney General's office of Florida. DO NOT GIVE YOUR MONEY TO THIS COMPANY.
JEN
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#9 Consumer Suggestion

To Those Ripped Off By Mader Law Group

AUTHOR: Randy - (United States of America)

To all of those that have been ripped off by Mader Law Group, contact the Florida Bar and submit a complaint about this law group.  The Florida Bar is currently investigating this law group.  I personally started this investigation when Mader ripped me off for $3000 and then threatened to put a lien on my home, after they didn't get me the loan mod, if I didn't stop posting truths about them on this site and others.  I got my money back and got the investigation rolling.  I'm sure the Florida Bar would like to hear the stories of the other home owners.

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#10 Consumer Suggestion

Here is the link for BBB

AUTHOR: CorrectInfo - (United States of America)

http://www.bbb.org/west-florida/business-reviews/loan-modification/mader-and-associates-in-tampa-fl-90084221


Here they have an F!!! Better read up buddy
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#11 Consumer Comment

Thank you.

AUTHOR: TRUTH USA - (United States of America)

Thank you so very much for this information regarding Mader's other location has an "F" rating with the BBB.  I sincerely appreciate it. 

I am a victim, too.  These people are very deceptive and caused me not to get approved for my loan Modification!

I am seeking a full refund. 
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#12 Consumer Comment

BBB Report on Mader in WPB

AUTHOR: interestedobserver - (United States of America)

I see the Mader representative is quoting the BBB report on the Tampa office. The BBB in West Palm has them rated as an "F". Here is the link: http://www.bbb.org/south-east-florida/business-reviews/attorneys/mader-law-group-in-west-palm-beach-fl-90046159

Also, I have to wonder how someone representing an Attorney's Office would be allowed to question the intelligence of others without being able to spell "intelligence" or even the word "scamming".
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#13 Consumer Comment

I too got ripped off

AUTHOR: Earlene - (U.S.A.)

I am from pa.,and I also got ripped off by the mader law group.They filed a complaint in my name with my lender and wont give me any info about it.Mind you thanks to my lender,I am not being forclosed on ,nor am I having problems in my refinance.

Called these people when I was in forcloser status and the response was I cant do anything about that,after 10 phone calls to them .I am waiting for my money back as we speak.
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#14 Consumer Comment

Absolutely Incredible

AUTHOR: Randy - (United States of America)

First and foremost, the truth is not slanderous. 

The following is an excerpt from an email I received from a guy by the name of Sean Batcheler who says he works for Mader Law Group regarding the complaints I've posted against them: 

"This is in regards to your recent complaint and continuous complaints. We were in the process of looking at refund but we are pretty guarded for the fact you have continuously posted negative comments without even discussing a solution or possible refund.  The firm is in the process of filing a lien on your property to prevent any modification attempts if you do not cease and desist with slander of the business. The lien will include all fees incurred for damage and tortuous interference of a business, which shall include any loss of business.  Please respond immediately or the firm WILL be filing a lien on the property and providing it to your lender within the next five days as to prevent any modification attempts until all attorneys fees and case is settled in court." 

I find it amazing that, first they take your money, don't get you the loan mod and don't communicate at all, then second, when you complain, they threaten to put a lien are the very thing you are trying to save.   Sean Batcheler, who by the way is not an attorney, he works for Mader Law Group but is a real estate agent for Century 21 Horizon Properties Bluffs, which I find peculiar since he is a real estate agent working for a law firm that is supposed to be saving homes from foreclosure.

The following is an article from The Palm Beach Post:
By Kimberly Miller
Palm Beach Post Staff Writer
Updated: 5:43 p.m. Friday, April 1, 2011
Posted: 5:27 p.m. Friday, April 1, 2011

State officials are warning homeowners about foreclosure help  websites mimicking the government-sponsored page for Florida's Hardest Hit Fund.The more than $1 billion federal program aimed at helping unemployed and underemployed homeowners is expected to open for applications statewide this month.It is overseen by the Florida Housing Finance Corporation, which has created a website to apply at www.flhardesthithelp.org.  But other groups have picked up on the opportunity to make money from those seeking help from the Hardest Hit program, creating websites that are similar in appearance or have similar web addresses."Florida Housing has identified several 'imposter' and 'copycat' websites posing as HHF application sites," a posting warns on the housing corporation's website.  The Mader Law Group, based in West Palm Beach, has created a site with a similar address to the official Hardest Hit program. The group's site includes no information about the law firm or phone number.A banner across the top of the site says "Florida Hardest Hit Homeowners Help," and it has an online application that requests personal information. There is a small disclaimer at the bottom of the site saying it is not affiliated with the government program.  Steve Ware, who said he is a senior executive with the Mader Law Group, said if someone contacts the firm through the site, it assesses the person's eligibility for the Hardest Hit program for free.If the homeowner is eligible, Ware said they are referred to the legitimate website. If not, the homeowner is told about foreclosure alternatives that the law firm offers for a fee.There is no need for home­owners to be screened for eligibility prior to applying for the program.For Florida's Hardest Hit Fund call (877) 863-5244.
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#15 UPDATE Employee

WHY AN A RATING REBUTTAL

AUTHOR: Mader Law - (United States of America)

In response to all the complaints that come from one individual "Randy". It is pretty clear to see that this is nothing more than a poor attempt to slander a business.



NOW YOU ARE SAYING THAT THE BBB IS SCAMING PEOPLE AND NOT REPORTING THE TRUTH!! COME ON!!



I think you really have a low opinion of peoples intelliegnece and it is absolutely a shame.



If you were indeed in the light of truth, I dont think the BBB would reject your claims. I am guessing the Bar record is now a hoax too.
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#16 Consumer Comment

Why The BBB Has A High Rating Of Mader Law

AUTHOR: Randy - (United States of America)

The following is an email that I received back from the Better Business Bureau regarding the Mader Law Group.  The reason that MLG wants everyone to look at their BBB rating is because the BBB does not handle most of the complaints that I've seen against Mader Law Group, therefore, the complaints do not go against their rating.

"Complaint ID#: 67217469

Business Name: Mader and Associates

Thank you for contacting BBB regarding your complaint. The complaint was received by BBB on January 26, 2012 and has been assigned case # 67217469 in our files.

We regret to inform you that we cannot process your complaint. The case has been reviewed by one of our complaint specialists and was found to contain issues that are outside of BBB's purview."

DO NOT TRUST MADER LAW GROUP
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#17 Consumer Comment

From The Page Of The Florida Attorney General

AUTHOR: Randy - (United States of America)

I got this off of the Florida Attorney General's website:

If you want to file a complaint with the Florida Attorney General, call 1-866-966-7226 or email them from their website:  http://myfloridalegal.com/contact

Active Public Consumer-Related Investigation:

The case file cited below relates to a civil -- not a criminal -- investigation. The existence of an investigation does not constitute proof of any violation of law.

Case Number:
L11-3-1025

Subject of investigation:

Mader Law Group
Subject's address: 5010 W. Carmen Street
Tampa, FL 33409

Subject's business:  Legal - Foreclosure rescue services
Allegation or issue being investigated:  Violations of F.S. 501.1377 pertaining to charging of up front
fees for foreclosure rescue services not ancillary to other representation.

AG unit handling case:  Economic Crimes Division in Tallahassee, Florida
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#18 Consumer Comment

Florida Not Happy With Horizon Financial and Mader Law Group

AUTHOR: Randy - (United States of America)

According to the Sun Sentinel out of Florida, the Florida AG is investigating a Florida debt relief company, Horizon Financial.   According to state allegations the company was engaged in making
solicitation calls that mislead and deceived consumers into thinking they were dealing with a U.S. Treasure Department foreclosure assistance program, when they were not.

Horizon Financial CEO Sean Batcheler offered this clarifying statement.Horizon CEO Sean Batcheler said the Attorney General has asked to meet with company officials about how they were servicing
clients but did not give any more details. Batcheler said Horizon never made spoofing calls under the funds name or number, and has not done mortgage loan modification work for more than a year.We are strictly debt settlement now. And there are quite a few unscrupulous people in that business, he said.

The Florida AGs office is also looking to issues surrounding alleged
advanced or upfront fees being charged for foreclosure services. The
Mader Law Group. Tampa attorney Eric Mader is also the manager of
American Financial Law Group.

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Victim


Wrong, they are still selling loan modification "help" under Mader Law Group of which Sean Batcheler is the CO.   Still doing a really bad job of it too.   Scam artist.



MIMA
I'M A VICTIM TOO.....PAYED THEM 2800.00 IN JUNE 2010...APRIL 2011 THEY TOLD ME
I DIDN'T QUALIFY FOR A MODIFICATION....THEY HAVE A MONEY BACK GUARANTEE
WELL ITS JAN.2012 I STILL DO NOT HAVE MY MONEY BACK THEY WONT ANSWER THE PHONE EITHER..SHAME ON YOU MADER LAW GROUP



Article from:  The Debt Guy
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#19 UPDATE Employee

AGAIN ANOTHER HOAX COMPLAINT

AUTHOR: Mader Law - (United States of America)

It is extremely concerning that none of these complaints ever come out of the closet. I have provided the BBB link in the previous listing so that you may file a legitimate complaint and have it verified.

You are quite correct. The firm has obtained ONLY 3 complaints in the last year and has settled them sufficiently while maintaining and "A" rating with the BBB which means they were settled and BOTH parties were satisfied. It is extremely hard maintaining a rating like this while servicing 42 states with the volume of customers we have. If you find another firm that has 0 complaints and can maintain these standards, I say go for it because I commend them.

We are in another predictament though as we see none of these complaints come to life with no response while the RIP OFF REPORT has a banner across the top about helping a BUSINESS and not a consumer fix there reputation and guess what, they will help you with that for a mere 10K.

I think we will stick with a long standing recoginized name like the BBB whom mediates their claims without trying to extort the business they list for large fees.
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#20 Consumer Comment

The BBB & Mader Law Group

AUTHOR: Randy - (United States of America)

Since I am going through the same issues with Mader Law Group, I thought I would post what I found on the BBB's website.  I have also filed  a rip off report of my own against Mader Law Group.

BBB Accreditation:  Mader and Associates is not BBB Accredited.

3 complaints closed with BBB in last 3 years | 3 closed in last 12 months

Complaint Type:  Problems with Product / Service

I also intend on file a complaint with the BBB against Mader Law Group
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#21 UPDATE Employee

Complaint Follow Up

AUTHOR: Mader Law - (United States of America)

Well our firm has not heard back from the person placing these reports so I imagine their is an understanding that consumers need to go to a legitimate site to validate these claims like the BBB before they make a decision.

I did find something out which was very concerning about this site in the meantime. When I asked if someone could mediate the validity of this claim, I was told I could join their corporate advocy program for only around 10K and they would address it (that is right I said ten thousand). It makes you wonder about the true goal of this site and WHERE some of these claims just may come from.

Please visit the BBB, a trusted name and site before doing business with anyone.
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#22 UPDATE Employee

HOAX COMPLAINT

AUTHOR: Mader Law - (United States of America)

I would like to address the recent post on this site. I am an employee of the firm and really find this disturbing. I dont know why someone would provide information for a hoax like this. I would imagine if this was truly happening with our firm, our bar record and A rating with better business bureau would be affected. To date we have an A rating with zero complaints with the BBB and zero complaints with the bar. If this is truly a consumer, I would ask that you provide evidence to the BBB so that it can be reviewed by the BBB and truly see if this is a valid claim. The problem is you have found a site that will publish anything without confirming anything (basically a blog). I imagine you will not provide info on this site or any other site (BBB) to show the validity of your postings.

I decided to include our proof of integrity below which is a firm that investigates these matters (BBB) for individuals that would like to know the truth or if you yourself would like to make a valid claim.

BBB Link

http://www.bbb.org/west-florida/business-reviews/attorneys/mader-law-group-in-tampa-fl-90084221

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