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  • Submitted: Fri, November 30, 2012
  • Updated: Fri, November 30, 2012

  • Reported By: countrygirl — atop a beautiful horse California United States of America
Magical Ranch
loomis Loomis, California United States of America

Magical Ranch Linda Siegal Conniving woman out to get you! Loomis, California

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Magical Ranch is Magical for Some

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As a new employee, one of the first things you will hear from Linda's mouth is, "most of my employee's will last as little as one month, or up to six months." This is where you should just turn around and run away. There is a reason behind this!

From face value, the Magical Ranch seems fine, until you dig deeper. Linda is a desheveled woman that barely looks like she showers or finds the time to brush her hair. She tells employees that they can't show up late, but that if you are early, you better wait in your car before you come in. You are expected to check in with her, in the house each day before you start work. The house is unkempt and really just down right gross, with hair balls from animals floating around on the floor, cats on the countertops, dishes and stuff everywhere. You recieve the duties for the day and head to the barn.

The barn is clean, if you are done with chores, you are expected to clean the sills of the isleway and use a shop vac to VACUUM the stalls. Although imacculately kept, the horses are cranky and rude. They zing their teeth against the bars and pin their ears when they see people. When horses are brought in and out of stalls, you better watch out as multiple horses charge in and out, risking that you get injured. If you try to help the horse get over it or reprimand them or anything, Linda will tell you, "You are not a trainer, so don't try training the horses. You are a groom. If I want my horses trained, I will send them out to a national level trainer that can work with them." So, horses spend most of their time thinking that it is ok to drag people around, because they spend 90% of their time doing it, except for the occasional period when they get sent to training. Usually, they get whacked on for a quick fix, so that handlers don't get run over, when Linda is not around. There are also young, testosterone filled stallions running around, dragging handlers and rearing up when they don't want to do something, but "you are not a trainer," so you can't even help them understand what basic manners are.

Specific examples of Linda's lack of humanity include an elderly trainer trying to work with a young stallion doing halter work. The stallion kicked the man in the head, knocking him to the ground and cut his leg open. Linda rushed past the man, ran to the horse and took him to the vet, with no concern for the elderly man.

Linda coerced a woman that owned a barn that was being forclosed on to write up a fake lease agreement, saying she had use of the property. When the property owners came in to prepare the place for sale, Linda said, "I have a lease agreement here, you can't take this property, it goes against the documents I have." She said that they were living there, she had her adult (40's?) daughter stay in the house, making it look like they lived there. Her daughter lives with her in her house. Since she is a horse hoarder, she was using this place as a cheap way to keep all the horses that she has, inexpensively. She lied (I know the people that had rightful ownership) and said that the Obama law won't let you make people move for up to three months and that she couldn't be kicked out. All a lie. The precursing details to when the gal that got forclosed on moved out don't jive with Linda's scam. She also said that since they owned the place and she was using it that she wanted them to make improvements on the property, so that it was more usable for her. What a joke. Oh, I got it... She got a lease on a 10 acre parcel, with a 34 stall barn, in a prime location, for $1,000 a month in her fake contract... for 5 years... in California. Yeah right.

The funny thing is about Linda acting so concerned about her horses, is that she uses a trainer called Lacey's. She wants these national level trainers to handle her horses, and they can just do whatever they want. When you show up there, you will see nervous horses in the cross ties dancing around with fear in their eyes. Instead of being calmed and settled, they are cracked in the legs with a whip until they stand stark still. The solution for Linda's trainers to making a horse "frame up" (esentially, tuck their nose and round their body) is to tie the horses head between its legs and run it around until its mouth is frothing blood. Once the horse hits that point and its mouth is totally raw, it is "soft enough" for her grand daughter to ride. This is an aged horse, mind you. If it was trained properly, it would just stay in frame because it enjoyed it, not stay there because its mouth was totally raw. Linda seemed totally ok with their tactics.

In the end, Linda will come off as a somewhat normal person, but her jargon is filled with negative comments cutting you down and making you question what the hell is going on. She has all these horses and acts as though everything revolves around them, but it really revolves around her and her struggle for ultimate control of every situation. Just look at her husband and daughter to see that. They are esentially slaves to her whim. Her husband is a lawyer, so she uses him to fight her battles and continues to see that she gets her way.

She is a crazy old loon.






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#1 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Magical Ranch is Magical for Some

AUTHOR: Magical Ranch - ()

These very young girls come to work at Magical Ranch, a private rescue, and while it is true that most stay for no more than six months, most go on to better jobs because of their experience here, and that is what I have told new people.  Chickens, sheep, rabbits, dogs, cats, and horses come to Magical Ranch to find ample food, good housing, kind handling, and days that are more peaceful from their previous situations.  At the most, in our 20 year history, we have had 24 horses, and we have leased many facilities, all of which started with an owner, and which were paid for at reasonable, market rates.  Countless horses have found good homes through our efforts. 

Sometimes, living quarters are included with the barns we lease, and my very capable 40+ daughter with her profound ability to handle horses, lives on the property with the horses as on-site help, and it works very well.  Leases on horse barns are about $1000 per month, and this young lady doesn't mention the death of the previous owner; the 18 horses left without support; the fact that the property had major problems (like no water); that we occupied only six stalls and none of the other areas for more than three months; and we left the property after an additional 3.5 months when it was sold to a permanent owner. 

Although we may have gained time for those horses, we never did this lease in a manner that was unlawful, fraudalent, or had any intention other than to buy time and give support to the previous owner while having a valid purpose to being there, and improving the property.  She neglects to mention the amount of money that went into maintenance, repairs, and improvements beyond the $1000 cash, which was waived by the mortgage-holder in light of the work we were doing for the final 3 months while it was being sold.  Unoccupied, this historic property would have been wrecked.

Our family home, for our family of four, is Magical Ranch, and we are an elderly couple.  With so many rescues, vet care,   night emergencies, it is true that I am not yet up and dressed when early morning staff arrive since I may have just gone to bed  But morning is when we need help, and once trained, over about a month, our help get regular raises and have made over minimum wage nearly all the time.  Most of our own money goes to support this menagerie!  Add it up - dog food, cat food, chicken food, good quality hay, grain, bedding, farrier work.  Of course we use a shop vac on our stalls - it eliminates nests of bugs, cobwebs, dirty bedding.  Most clean barns vacuum and sweep often.  Our horses are well-kept with ceiling fans, face fans, misters in the summer (turn-out is at night), and with blankets and heat lamps in the winter.  The horses are out for at least 12 hours a day.  We are always seeking good new homes for most of the horses.

We have only hired people who are legally in this country, and we pay according to the law.  Many of the girls who come here are seeking a social life and/or a career, and when they find it is not available to them, they go elsewhere.  The horses that come here arrive with a variety of problems and needs.  Death of an owner, bankruptcy, illness, abandonment - this is what has brought the great number of horses to our door - they didn't have other options.  Of course, some have bad behaviors.  But we always emphasize that our primary concern is with the safety of the people around the horses.  Mostly, our horses are friendly, engaging, charming animals, but they are horses, they are large, and sometimes they move unpredictably.

Now, we no longer hire help - it is simply not worth our time nor our money to have our horses mishandled by young girls who are trainer wanna-bes and more interested in who is on their cell phone, and how much time they can use it at work, while they sometimes ignore life-threatening conditions in the horses.  It is too bad for all the workers who have given a good day's work for a good day's pay, and loved and cared for the animals with great understanding and ability.

The plight of the horse in today's American life is grim.  Although we are aging out of the horse care life, and no longer have many animals, we can only hope that some of the people who worked here are compassionate and have developed skills to rescue and care for these horses that would otherwise live in horrid, debilitating circumstances, if not taken to auction for meat.

As far as the national level trainer and stallion tale, there were two people standing a few feet away from the trainer who has working with a yearling colt.  The bolt wasn't screwed into the wall, and the horse broke loose, cutting his (the horse's) leg with the bolt.  The two people with the trainer immediately helped him, and I took the horse to the vet for stitches.  Lacey's are a highly reputable training barn, and I have never seen the type of handling this young woman is describing, nor have I ever had an elderly horse in their care.  The Lacey's train young horses, and their methods are consistent with what I have seen in many other training barns.

This girl must have many issues of her own that she is not dealing with in order to make up fairy tales about our family, all of whom are equally strong-minded, my appearance (I do go out to work every day dressed and groomed for business), and our housekeeping, which may not be a perfect on a continuing basis as it is with those that have no indoor pets.  I wonder why she cares so passionately, and why she hasn't gotten on with her life after voluntarily giving notice after about 6 months of work here.

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