• Report: #150004

Complaint Review: Melaleuca

  • Submitted: Sat, July 16, 2005
  • Updated: Sun, March 03, 2013

  • Reported By:minneapolis Minnesota
Melaleuca
melaleuca.com Idaho Falls, Idaho U.S.A.

Melaleuca please read, I have done 2 years of research on this Idaho Falls Idaho

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: "Go sell you Dreams and fairy-tails"

*Consumer Comment: I'm more lucky than you

*Consumer Comment: Place of manufacture

*General Comment: Then where?

*Consumer Comment: Melaleuca

*Consumer Comment: PLEASE DO YOUR HOMEWORK BEFORE YOU STATE SUCH CLAIMS!

*Consumer Comment: PLEASE DO YOUR HOMEWORK BEFORE YOU STATE SUCH CLAIMS!

*Consumer Comment: PLEASE DO YOUR HOMEWORK BEFORE YOU STATE SUCH CLAIMS!

*Consumer Comment: PLEASE DO YOUR HOMEWORK BEFORE YOU STATE SUCH CLAIMS!

*Consumer Comment: I'm reading a lot of nonsense here.....

*Consumer Comment: I'm one of the distributors making $3.00 a month

*Consumer Comment: To Gloria

*Consumer Comment: I Agree

*Consumer Comment: More on Melaleuca and Ethics

*Consumer Comment: More on Melaleuca and Ethics

*Consumer Comment: More on Melaleuca and Ethics

*UPDATE Employee: You can only do so much for a mass market

*Consumer Comment: Melaleuca is not safe

*UPDATE Employee: Melaleuca and MomsWIN

*UPDATE Employee: I agree with this persons comments

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I have been reading this site for many months and never thought that I would respond, but I think I need to. I have two college degrees and own my own retail business. I had a baby one year ago and since then decided I wanted to own my own business and not be gone 40-50 hours a week. (I opened the store 6 months ago and am making no money from it yet)

I have spent 2 years researching home businesses, pyramids, mlm's, any scam you can think of and lost much money in the process. In researching, going to seminars, filling out forms, sending money, phone calls, internet searcing, Better Business Bureau's, etc... here is what I have found... and what I have found works for ME.. not necessarily you.. but for myself.

Quixtar(might have the spelling wrong) sounded so good to me at the meeting. It made sense to buy products from a company and have others shop there too and make money from that. After attending the meeting, I did a lot of research and decided because of it's affiliation with Amway it gave everyone a negative feel and I didn't want to deal with it. I have since learned that the people who make money with Quixtar make it from selling tapes, learning materials, etc. Not for me.

I have checked into herbalife twice. The products may be fine, never tried them. What was a problem for me was the way they represented themselves. I know now that when on the internet these companies don't like to say who they are because they want to get you into their informational meeting first. Fine. That's fair. What was upsetting for me was when I was in the middle of one of the phone information meetings, they still wouldn't tell me who they were. If you were proud of your company you should say so. The first time I lost 39.95 for their informational booklet and could never get a refund. That was about 3 years ago. This time, after getting angry and they finally told me they were herbalife about 3 months later, 4 e-mails and 3 messages via phone I was refunded. I still get e-mails from her all the time. I just don't respond, doesn't bother me that much, just annoying. So, for me I wasn't impressed with the individuals I came across with herbalife. So, not for me.

I have also lost money in the envelope mailing scams, taking pictures of property (can't remember what that was called), but he wouldn't give me my money back unless I sent several letters to companies trying to make this work) I didn't want to go thru it so I just let him have my 29.95, I figured he needed it more than I did.

I am still trying surveys and so far have only made money from survey savvy. All of the rest are entering you into drawings to win money. Big deal. Or, you will get money if you sign up for offers from "our trusted sponsers". What happens is the fine print says you are signing up for a monthly fee. So you don't make any money. I learned this the hard way. I do have a friend that says her husband does surveys and test drives cars etc and makes money. I have yet to get the names from him. I am still trying.

I have signed up for 29.95 to be a mystery shopper. Have yet to recieve a call. I will take blame for this though. I feel as though I didn't fill out everything I should have.

So, as you can see I have tried many things, and will keep trying. Now I will tell you my melaleuca experience if you are not bored to death yet!

2 years ago my girlfriend got me to go to a melaleuca presentation. I am so skeptical... I must have asked 30 questions, ripping on this and ripping on that. I felt bad if I didn't join.. so I joined the preferred customer for 29.95. I didn't get the value pack, 199.00 was just more than I wanted to spend. So, we bought a few cleaning products and started with that. I never ordered again. My attitude was, you can't con me, and yeah right this stuff does what you say it does. I didn't order again, said I couldn't afford it. My friend was fine with that, didn't want me doing anything I didn't want to. I cancelled immediately and never received a back up order or any problems.

About 5 months later, maybe less, I noticed that I was out of the tough and tender(I use it to clean bathroom, kitchen etc.) I realized I wanted more and got a bottle from her that she had extra at home. She never bothered me about it and I forgot about it. I had worked with another gal and another job in the meantime that spoke highly of it. I didn't engage in conversation about it, I thought, oh boy she is brainwashed too.

About 3 months ago, this same girlfriend told me that she is making about $4-500 a month from Melaleuca. I was shocked. This was just from getting friends and family introduced to it.

I decided I needed to check into it again. I didn't want to bug family and friends, so a friend of hers was going to help me online. I was still afraid that the products might be bad or it might be a bad company etc. Well, here is what I have found.

Melaleuca has been around for 20 years and they are debt free. I am not trying to offend anyone by this, but most of you aren't sure what the definition of a pyramid is. I wasn't either until I did alot of research. A pyramid is when there is no product involved and you only make money from others joining. For example, you send 500.00 to 10 people and they make money.. etc etc.. So, for all practical purposes this is not a pyramid. I can see why people think that, like I said I did too. They don't like to say they are an MLM and I had a problem with this too. Because they are set up like one. I did a lot of research on this, and honestly can't remember most of why it isn't a "true" mlm. But I will tell you what I remember. In an MLM only the top guys make money, fact is that is not true with Melaleuca. Also, you have inventory in a true MLM. You do not distribute the product or carry inventory with this. Again, I had a problem with this too. But here's what it boils down too. It is OK if it is an MLM. MLM's are not illegal. There are plenty that are ok, Mary Kay for example. Everyone, including myself has been so scared of the word MLM because some are fraudulent, but in and of itself, being an MLM is not illegal. Frank Vandersloot the founder of Melaleuca uses the term consumer direct marketing because that is what it is. I think they want to stress that becasue of all of the negativity with the MLM word.

I also found that Melaleuca is not chemical free. I originally thought they were. They do not have amonia, bleach, or formeldehyde in any of their products. I spent hours and hours making sure of this and looking at other name brand products to see if they did. Alot of them do. The two that were most shocking for me were johnsons baby shampoo and mouthwash. Anyway, I am not here to preach that. But I had to find it out for myself. So, they use chemicals, but not ones that are harmful.

I personally can't stand the smell of melaleuca oil, so I don't like one of the toothpastes, and the naturals handsoap. There are other options that smell better. But the oil has many uses and has been around for hundreds of years. There is no research because fda doesn't research herbs.

I had a hard time believing all of the health benefits that have happened for people as a result of the "pharmacy" products. What I have learned is that some things may help some, and not others. They don't claim that it will cure anything, so I am happy they don't. I have heard in person many people whom I trust tell me health benefits they have seen.

So, where am I at?? If anyone is still with me! I rejoined 3 months ago. My parents mr. and mrs. skeptical became customers and I didn't want them too. I didn't want anyone I knew blaming me later if they didn't like something. They were buying tons of vitamins etc every month from Skaklee and said why not get them from here so you can make a few dollars. How do you argue with that? So, from them buying the value pack, and I got a bonus becasue I restarted with a value pack too, my first check was $56.00. That worked for me. I haven't tried to talk to anyone else I know yet, because I didn't want to bug them. I have decided to invite a few people to a presentation at my house next month. If they don't want to join, that's cool. But if they are going to hear about it at some point, why not hear about it from me. I don't feel so bad asking them to see a presentation now, because I remember all of the candle, basket, pampered chef, mary kay etc parties I have went to for them.

I am going to give Melaleuca a try. The company is solid, can't find anything wrong with it's structure etc. The products are good, what it boils down to is switching stores. This is not for everyone, just as some people like Covergirl and some like maybeline. It's a different brand. But Covergirl doesn't give me a chance to refer others and make money. I will take it slow, because I am still cautious. But so far so good.

There are sales people within any company who will mislead, be pushy, etc. Don't blame this on the company. I can't tell you how many mary kay people or arbonne have relentlessly tried to sign me up. I don't blame this on mary kay, it's just not for me. I am finding that Melaleuca is a reputable company and I have seen people who are making a couple thousand or more a month. But, they have worked very hard for this. Nobody has told me I am going to get rich off of this, it is up to me what I put into it. So, if you want to switch stores and get some of the cancer causing chemicals out of your house and maybe make some money, this is for you. If not, don't sign up. It's really that simple.

Thanks for listening!

Lanae
minneapolis, Minnesota
U.S.A.

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#1 UPDATE EX-employee responds

"Go sell you Dreams and fairy-tails"

AUTHOR: Ken Klocke - ()

This is Melaleuca's, "pyramid-shaped" MLM pay scheme below.. aka .. 5X7 matrix.

"Bottomline_ Melaleuca. Inc. can lace the Kool-Aid with all the fairy-dust they can figment. However, three words don't lie... "Melaleuca Scam Report" powered by google

 

 MELALEUCA IS MLM. "As a duck haveth webed feet ~ Melaleuca, Inc. is MLM Multi-levels."~KK

http://ken.vegas >~> You are entering the "Fairy-Dust Portal ~ Melaleuca is not MLM"

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In matters of truth and justice, there is no difference between large and small problems, for issues concerning the treatment of people are all the same. ~Albert Einstein  

 #MLM #Melaleuca #FTC #MultiLevelMarketing #ConsumerDirectMarketing #FairytailDustPortal #QUACKquack #KevinThompson #TheMLMattorney #lies #halftruths #PureFiction
 
I coined "Melaleuca's" compensation scheme -
(RBI™) Recruiting Based Income. (RBI's) only pays for recruiting and/or helping others recruit. "Limited pay on personals possible, capped at $100.00 w/o pandering "Sick huh?Hence [NoRecruitNoPay™] Keep in mind my business was a $2'000'000 + annual business...and I'm sure it still is!

Now, what a (RBI™) plan truly pays you is your -
(TRI™)True Residual Income.
In other words.. what the plan "residual truly pays" without, pandering to neverending recruiting demands.

I coined Melaleuca's pay scheme (RBI™), because A third grader can understand it... And, thats what it is!
Keep in mind if your recruits drop out in the first "90 day's" Melaleuca takes your points away for that customer! "Sham"

*Now allow me to exemplify these acronyms in a real case scenario. I will use my Melaleuca, Inc. "commission Report Summaries" to clear things up.. If you look closely at the (CBS) you can see my available commission was $7'124.13...you would expect that to be my residual income right? Wrong - because I didn't pander/ recruit... 3-6 new recruits per month, average of 45 recruiting points 3 months running, I earned "0" commissions on my group!

And trust me... People at Melaleuca DON'T talk about this...
"dirty little secret" O' no O' no contraire! I think it's safe to say most recruits and low level folks have no clue! You want to shake your head? go for it!

This is where the (NoRecruitNoPay™) was coined. Clear?
Now, it should be abundantly, and painfully clear how I coined it
(TRI™) So clearly -Melaleuca has a (RBI™) scheme. Paying only a small fraction of the residual income they build you dreams on. If you don't pander to the recruiting demands.
So all you "Mela-Dream peddlers"

"Go Sell Your Dream!"~KK© 2015 "justice must be served"

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You drinking the Kool-Aid? KK© 2015                                                                                                            All Rights Reserved   

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#2 Consumer Comment

I'm more lucky than you

AUTHOR: Josean Rivera - ()

I've been a Marketing Executive since Feb. 2006. I have two customers under me that were placed there by my enroller. I have never attempted to show the business oportunity to anyone, altough I am aware that it is legit and know many people doing good bucks for their effort. I am very happy with my $4.85 monthly check because all I want is to buy the great products they manufacture and that is what makes me a faithful monthly 35 points consumer.

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Place of manufacture

AUTHOR: DrCarla - ()

 Melaleuca's products are manufactured in the United States using materials produced here. The only thing that is imported is the Melaleuca (tea tree) Oil, which is from Australia. Most of the bottles are made of recycled plastic. Hope this helps. :)

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#4 General Comment

Then where?

AUTHOR: GL - (United States of America)

I'm wondering where the products are manufactured if not in China? Thanks for your time :)
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#5 Consumer Comment

Melaleuca

AUTHOR: PKH - (United States of America)

I have used these products in the past and just recently joined again. The products are stellar in performance and safe for my family and the environment. The only way to change the way we allow big companies to produce these harmful products is to stop buying them! Melaleuca is a great alternative. Here is the clincher for me. None of the products are made in China! The company is rock solid, honest and delivers exactly what it says it does. I am pursuing the business side to leave my horrible corporate job. Join me and so many others who have realized the multiple benefits of this company. You will be in the company of positive and helpful people!
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#6 Consumer Comment

PLEASE DO YOUR HOMEWORK BEFORE YOU STATE SUCH CLAIMS!

AUTHOR: Terry - (U.S.A.)

TO Lanae,

I First look at your comments because it appeared you were an experienced source. However, as I read through your comments I realized I was dealing with someone that probably gets most of their info from search engines/word searches. If you know anything about anything, you'd realize you can find negative about any subject. Just like writing a research paper, you have to look at the source and check its credibility. For instace, millions of people think Walmart is the most wonderful store, but you can find a whole lot of negative about it just by entering it into a search engine. My point is, whether you like Walmart or not, it happens to one of, if not the most successful and well-known chain of stores in history!

Here are my POINTS:
(A)You mention a defintion of an MLM as, "only guys at the top make money". This is actual one of the criteria of an illegal pyramid,not a MLM. However some so called MLMs out there can meet the criteria of an illegal pyramid.

(B)MY BIGGEST POINT IS THIS: You TRULY must not have done more than 10 minutes of research in regards to Quixtar/Amway. Because if you did TRUE RESEARCH, you would have found out that:
(1) The Amway corporation actual helped define the laws that outline what an illegal pyramid is. Exactly everthing it(Quixtar)is not!

(2)The real money is not made on tools/book, CDs, etc. You were misinformed again.

(3)The Amway corporation has produced more millionaires than any other corporation in the history of the world!

(4)AND if you do your research on this corporation, you can see the amazing impact that the founders have had on this country. They have done so much good with their money!(hospitals,parks, Easter SEALS etc.)

(5)One thing you should realize is that when you go agaist the masses, you will almost always be criticized. That is why few people ever really make it in good MLMs because they are so easily influenced by friends, family and their peers; people that have no clue about an opportunity you seen, but they will always give their opinion, usually negative and say, "that doesn't work, my aunt's sister's friend was in that thing and she never made any money"! Many people thought Thomas Edison was crazy. I am sure glad he didn't let that influence him. The number of things he invented is astounding-1,093. He held more patents than any other person in the world! I thank God he didn't listen to the masses!

ONE LAST COMMENT: Although you seem to be supporting Melaleuca, your overall theme that seems to stand out is that you appear to have no real posture or self-confidence. If you are going to do something, GO FOR IT! Don't be a fence-rider. Follow your dreams! Find your passion! Believe in yourself and your product whatever it is!

I hope you are enlightenedd! I pray you become financial independent and choose raising your little baby instead of letting the negative influence of others tell you how to live your life.


"SUCCESS IS NOT MEASURED BY WHAT A MAN ACCOMPLISHES, BUT BY THE OPPOSITION HE HAS ENCOUNTERED AND THE COURAGE WITH WHICH HE HAS MAINTAINED THE STRUGGLE AGAINST THE OVERWHELMING ODDS." -Charles Lindbergh
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#7 Consumer Comment

PLEASE DO YOUR HOMEWORK BEFORE YOU STATE SUCH CLAIMS!

AUTHOR: Terry - (U.S.A.)

TO Lanae,

I First look at your comments because it appeared you were an experienced source. However, as I read through your comments I realized I was dealing with someone that probably gets most of their info from search engines/word searches. If you know anything about anything, you'd realize you can find negative about any subject. Just like writing a research paper, you have to look at the source and check its credibility. For instace, millions of people think Walmart is the most wonderful store, but you can find a whole lot of negative about it just by entering it into a search engine. My point is, whether you like Walmart or not, it happens to one of, if not the most successful and well-known chain of stores in history!

Here are my POINTS:
(A)You mention a defintion of an MLM as, "only guys at the top make money". This is actual one of the criteria of an illegal pyramid,not a MLM. However some so called MLMs out there can meet the criteria of an illegal pyramid.

(B)MY BIGGEST POINT IS THIS: You TRULY must not have done more than 10 minutes of research in regards to Quixtar/Amway. Because if you did TRUE RESEARCH, you would have found out that:
(1) The Amway corporation actual helped define the laws that outline what an illegal pyramid is. Exactly everthing it(Quixtar)is not!

(2)The real money is not made on tools/book, CDs, etc. You were misinformed again.

(3)The Amway corporation has produced more millionaires than any other corporation in the history of the world!

(4)AND if you do your research on this corporation, you can see the amazing impact that the founders have had on this country. They have done so much good with their money!(hospitals,parks, Easter SEALS etc.)

(5)One thing you should realize is that when you go agaist the masses, you will almost always be criticized. That is why few people ever really make it in good MLMs because they are so easily influenced by friends, family and their peers; people that have no clue about an opportunity you seen, but they will always give their opinion, usually negative and say, "that doesn't work, my aunt's sister's friend was in that thing and she never made any money"! Many people thought Thomas Edison was crazy. I am sure glad he didn't let that influence him. The number of things he invented is astounding-1,093. He held more patents than any other person in the world! I thank God he didn't listen to the masses!

ONE LAST COMMENT: Although you seem to be supporting Melaleuca, your overall theme that seems to stand out is that you appear to have no real posture or self-confidence. If you are going to do something, GO FOR IT! Don't be a fence-rider. Follow your dreams! Find your passion! Believe in yourself and your product whatever it is!

I hope you are enlightenedd! I pray you become financial independent and choose raising your little baby instead of letting the negative influence of others tell you how to live your life.


"SUCCESS IS NOT MEASURED BY WHAT A MAN ACCOMPLISHES, BUT BY THE OPPOSITION HE HAS ENCOUNTERED AND THE COURAGE WITH WHICH HE HAS MAINTAINED THE STRUGGLE AGAINST THE OVERWHELMING ODDS." -Charles Lindbergh
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#8 Consumer Comment

PLEASE DO YOUR HOMEWORK BEFORE YOU STATE SUCH CLAIMS!

AUTHOR: Terry - (U.S.A.)

TO Lanae,

I First look at your comments because it appeared you were an experienced source. However, as I read through your comments I realized I was dealing with someone that probably gets most of their info from search engines/word searches. If you know anything about anything, you'd realize you can find negative about any subject. Just like writing a research paper, you have to look at the source and check its credibility. For instace, millions of people think Walmart is the most wonderful store, but you can find a whole lot of negative about it just by entering it into a search engine. My point is, whether you like Walmart or not, it happens to one of, if not the most successful and well-known chain of stores in history!

Here are my POINTS:
(A)You mention a defintion of an MLM as, "only guys at the top make money". This is actual one of the criteria of an illegal pyramid,not a MLM. However some so called MLMs out there can meet the criteria of an illegal pyramid.

(B)MY BIGGEST POINT IS THIS: You TRULY must not have done more than 10 minutes of research in regards to Quixtar/Amway. Because if you did TRUE RESEARCH, you would have found out that:
(1) The Amway corporation actual helped define the laws that outline what an illegal pyramid is. Exactly everthing it(Quixtar)is not!

(2)The real money is not made on tools/book, CDs, etc. You were misinformed again.

(3)The Amway corporation has produced more millionaires than any other corporation in the history of the world!

(4)AND if you do your research on this corporation, you can see the amazing impact that the founders have had on this country. They have done so much good with their money!(hospitals,parks, Easter SEALS etc.)

(5)One thing you should realize is that when you go agaist the masses, you will almost always be criticized. That is why few people ever really make it in good MLMs because they are so easily influenced by friends, family and their peers; people that have no clue about an opportunity you seen, but they will always give their opinion, usually negative and say, "that doesn't work, my aunt's sister's friend was in that thing and she never made any money"! Many people thought Thomas Edison was crazy. I am sure glad he didn't let that influence him. The number of things he invented is astounding-1,093. He held more patents than any other person in the world! I thank God he didn't listen to the masses!

ONE LAST COMMENT: Although you seem to be supporting Melaleuca, your overall theme that seems to stand out is that you appear to have no real posture or self-confidence. If you are going to do something, GO FOR IT! Don't be a fence-rider. Follow your dreams! Find your passion! Believe in yourself and your product whatever it is!

I hope you are enlightenedd! I pray you become financial independent and choose raising your little baby instead of letting the negative influence of others tell you how to live your life.


"SUCCESS IS NOT MEASURED BY WHAT A MAN ACCOMPLISHES, BUT BY THE OPPOSITION HE HAS ENCOUNTERED AND THE COURAGE WITH WHICH HE HAS MAINTAINED THE STRUGGLE AGAINST THE OVERWHELMING ODDS." -Charles Lindbergh
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#9 Consumer Comment

PLEASE DO YOUR HOMEWORK BEFORE YOU STATE SUCH CLAIMS!

AUTHOR: Terry - (U.S.A.)

TO Lanae,

I First look at your comments because it appeared you were an experienced source. However, as I read through your comments I realized I was dealing with someone that probably gets most of their info from search engines/word searches. If you know anything about anything, you'd realize you can find negative about any subject. Just like writing a research paper, you have to look at the source and check its credibility. For instace, millions of people think Walmart is the most wonderful store, but you can find a whole lot of negative about it just by entering it into a search engine. My point is, whether you like Walmart or not, it happens to one of, if not the most successful and well-known chain of stores in history!

Here are my POINTS:
(A)You mention a defintion of an MLM as, "only guys at the top make money". This is actual one of the criteria of an illegal pyramid,not a MLM. However some so called MLMs out there can meet the criteria of an illegal pyramid.

(B)MY BIGGEST POINT IS THIS: You TRULY must not have done more than 10 minutes of research in regards to Quixtar/Amway. Because if you did TRUE RESEARCH, you would have found out that:
(1) The Amway corporation actual helped define the laws that outline what an illegal pyramid is. Exactly everthing it(Quixtar)is not!

(2)The real money is not made on tools/book, CDs, etc. You were misinformed again.

(3)The Amway corporation has produced more millionaires than any other corporation in the history of the world!

(4)AND if you do your research on this corporation, you can see the amazing impact that the founders have had on this country. They have done so much good with their money!(hospitals,parks, Easter SEALS etc.)

(5)One thing you should realize is that when you go agaist the masses, you will almost always be criticized. That is why few people ever really make it in good MLMs because they are so easily influenced by friends, family and their peers; people that have no clue about an opportunity you seen, but they will always give their opinion, usually negative and say, "that doesn't work, my aunt's sister's friend was in that thing and she never made any money"! Many people thought Thomas Edison was crazy. I am sure glad he didn't let that influence him. The number of things he invented is astounding-1,093. He held more patents than any other person in the world! I thank God he didn't listen to the masses!

ONE LAST COMMENT: Although you seem to be supporting Melaleuca, your overall theme that seems to stand out is that you appear to have no real posture or self-confidence. If you are going to do something, GO FOR IT! Don't be a fence-rider. Follow your dreams! Find your passion! Believe in yourself and your product whatever it is!

I hope you are enlightenedd! I pray you become financial independent and choose raising your little baby instead of letting the negative influence of others tell you how to live your life.


"SUCCESS IS NOT MEASURED BY WHAT A MAN ACCOMPLISHES, BUT BY THE OPPOSITION HE HAS ENCOUNTERED AND THE COURAGE WITH WHICH HE HAS MAINTAINED THE STRUGGLE AGAINST THE OVERWHELMING ODDS." -Charles Lindbergh
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#10 Consumer Comment

I'm reading a lot of nonsense here.....

AUTHOR: Wes - (U.S.A.)

First someone has said "In an MLM only the top guys make money, fact is that is not true with Melaleuca. Also, you have inventory in a true MLM. You do not distribute the product or carry inventory with this."

Does anyone here understand what "MLM" stands for? "Multi-Level-Marketing" as in you get paid from multiple levels of people known as a downline. That's it, that's all it means!
Is Mela an MLM? Of course it is, you do get paid on 7 levels correct?
Or, how about this, if it's not an "MLM" then is it a Network Marketing Company?
This is why I left Mela, I couldn't put up with the lies and if your going to make it in this company than that's what you going to have to learn to do....
I'm going to list the things that you have to say to your downline (Oops! Correction Customer Base)
1. It's not an MLM, this is the joke of the industry.
2. They are a Consumer Direct company which means that they ship directly to you....SO DOES EVERY OTHER MLM COMPANY THAT'S OUT THERE!
3. Your buying at wholesale??? Do you seriously call 4 bucks for a bar of soap (Oops again...Glycerin Bar) plus shipping? I don't even think that they make this product because it says on the back "Distributed by Melaleuca"
By the way it does a bad job of cleaning my hands when I come in from the garden.
4. You only have to buy 35 base points to do the business....WRONG! It jumps up to 75 points after you get you eight. (Yes you do go from 7% to 14% and perhaps 20% if you get 20 people)
Your product cost goes up to about $135 and you'll need at least 20 personal people in your downline to pay for this.
5. NO BREAK-AWAYS!!! They use that term as if it was something bad! In Nu-Skin they have break-aways in their plan and you get 5% on the entire team that "Breaks Away" If I was doing that company, I'd take all the break-aways I could get.
Here's some other things that I don't care for.
A matrix pay plan....the only thing worse is a binary pay plan and then the Australian One Up.
The only good pay plan is a Uni-Level. Everyone goes into your front line unless you want to place a person under someone. It's fair, you don't loose because you had to place someone in your second or third level. Then the company gets to keep that money that you should have had.
NO RECORDED CALLS.....every other company that's out there has these important tools but Mela stopped them a year ago....why? Because they said people were just sending people to these calls and not taking them to live calls. So What?
So what it is that your suppose to do now? You have to schedule a get together on a live call. Guess what? 50% of the time they no show you.
These calls are 30 minutes long and the first 20 minutes is spent talking about boring products.
Guess what? You will hear clicks as people drop out of these calls. If your smart and especially if you've got a guy that you have to bring to the call, wait 15 minutes and then break into the call. You'll have a better chance because they will have 5 minutes before getting to the good part.....THE MONEY!
Someone once asked my what my favorite product was? I told them it was the check with my name on it on the 15th of the month..... I know of two recorded calls that are still up but I can't say what they are since they could get these people into trouble....
Here's another thing to mention...they have the most out dated method of enrollment in the entire business today....You have two choices, either get the prospects private information to put into what they call "Electronic Signup" or three way to Mela followed up by faxing of paper work and trying to get them to go to the site and figure out what they want to order, unless you lucky and they bought a Value or Career pack....not easy! This flat stinks! If your doing the biz using leads, they don't know you from Adam.
Why would they give you their Credit Card Number, Social, DOB, etc.? Do you really want to ask a 65 year woman in Kansas to drive 10 miles in the snow, go to a Kinkos to pick up a stupid fax? Insane...
Now if you should be able to make it to Senior Director or above, just make sure that everyone in your downline does not do anything that the comapny does not like, even if you don't know the person your held responsible and can get a big stiff fine.
And don't dare do any other companies, that will not go over very well with Melaleuca ....I don't know about you, but I like being in my own business. But you can't be in your own business with only one client. Does a doctor have one patient? Does a lawyer or a real-estate person have only one client? In this situation, the more money you make, the more they will own you!
If you have only one client or company, they are your BOSS!
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#11 Consumer Comment

I'm one of the distributors making $3.00 a month

AUTHOR: Nancy - (U.S.A.)

I've read most of the posts about Melaleuca on this site. I would encourage anyone looking for a home business to give Melaleuca a try. All the Melaleuca customers I know are very loyal to the company.

I'm one of those folks in the Melaleuca statistics who's making very little money every month. Please do not let that dissuade you from pursuing a Melaleuca business. I've been a distibutor for 2 1/2 years making about $3.00 a month, which is the commission I make for signing up one close friend. I didn't become a distributor to work it as a business; I just wanted to make enough commission to cover some of the shipping cost for my monthly order.

Occasionally, I try other products for sale in stores and I always go back to Melaleuca. Some of their products seem a bit expensive to me, but that is not important to me because using the Melaleuca oral care products cleared up my gum disease (which I can document) and that saved me thousands of dollars and the sick days that I would have used in getting periodontal treatments. In my opinion, the tea tree oil oral care products for sale at health food stores are not as effective as the Melaleuca products.


I have had a 100% positive experience with the company and so have my friends and relatives who have been using their products for years. It's been years since I've gone down the cleaning supplies and shampoo aisles at the grocery story. (In fact, I can't stand the smell of the chemicals on the cleaning aisle.) Grocery shopping is much faster since I joined Melaleuca because I only go to the grocery store for food. And placing my monthly Melaleuca order online only takes a couple of minutes, thanks to my stored shopping lists on their web site.

Melaleuca a great company and if you're interested in direct sales, go for it.
Good luck!!!
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#12 Consumer Comment

To Gloria

AUTHOR: Lacey - (U.S.A.)

Gloria, your post surprised me. I have used Melaleuca products for two years and we love them. You say they're not safe but I will have to disagree with you! I have three year old twin boys who you can imagine are into EVERYTHING! Right after we moved they snuck out of the bedroom one night and got into a box of cleaning supplies. My son Gabriel DRANK almost a cup of Melaleuca's MelaMagic (a heavy duty cleaner for things like floors) and his twin brother Gideon got it in his eyes. I called Melaleuca immediately to get an ingredient list (which they promptly gave me) and their ep. told me to go ahead and call poison control just to be sure and let me know that poison control had all their ingrediant lists on hand.

I called poison control and was told that I had all ready done everything right (flushed the eyes, washed the skin, etc.) and just to keep an eye on them. Gabriel (you'll remember he thought it was a fruit cocktail ;) ) had NO symptoms. He never vomitted, never even had direaha! Gideon's eyes were a little sore the next day, which I had fully expected since he essentially got an overdose of soap in them. But not 24 hours after the incident you could not tell anything had happened.

I was thanking God and Melaleuca that I only have their products in my home. Can you imagine if my children had drank bleach? Or amonia? I could have lost a child that night. You can say they aren't safe products (all though I notice you didn't mention any specific about which ingredients are NOT safe, just a general they're generally safe) but my sons are LIVING proof that these products are safe. And thank God we use them!
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#13 Consumer Comment

I Agree

AUTHOR: B - (U.S.A.)

Larae (Minnesota),
I enjoyed reading your comments and I like you was very skeptical. I am a stay-at-home mom and 1st heard about Melaleuca about 2-3 years ago but did not become a customer/marketing executive until March 2006 and I love it! The products are very good. I used to use bleach for everything and my hands were really beginning to look aged and dried out but since Melaleuca I can tell a difference.
I do not like approaching people about the business but if the opportunity presents itself I will. There are people I know that will mislead others just to get them to their meetings but I can not and will not do that it is immoral!!! I am Director making about $300-$500 a month depending on commissions and bonuses but I am thankful and happy that someone introduced me to Melaleuca.
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More on Melaleuca and Ethics

AUTHOR: Terri - (U.S.A.)

I am a preferred customer of Melaleuca. I tried to start the business about 3 years ago. My experiences have been similar to many reported on the rip-off report. So, I have had some very negative experiences with the business end, but the company is very ethical. Please read on to the end to find out how Melaleuca responded to the gulf coast residents after Katrina.

In general, the problems arise because:

1) Important details are glossed over due to trying to fit too much info into too short a time (back-up order, monthly commitment)

2) How much time and money it takes to build a business - not the company's fault, but some in the training calls overestimate the amount that is made at certain levels.

3) Your enroller's skills- will they be there to train you properly? In my organization when I did the business, I "inherited" enrollees from someone who quit. One customer was getting back-up orders every month. I called her 3 months in a row to tell her how to quit, but each month the back-up order went out. Finally, I wrote a cancellation letter for her, put it in a stamped envelope addressed to Melaleuca, and sent it to HER so that she could sign it and put it in the mail!!! When you read these rip-off reports, realize that sometimes people just don't follow instructions well.

I lost a lot of money buying leads. I bought all the products to test for myself. I read and educated myself through the Melaleuca material and the MomsWIN materials on their website. I jumped in with both feet. They say that the only unsuccessful marketing executives are those that quit. I couldn't afford to keep losing money. I now work a part-time job (I love it) to try to get back in the green.

There are about 6 Melaleuca products that I really like, so I have remained a customer. Twice I almost cancelled. The first time I cancelled it was when I decided not to pursue the business end. I was surprized the next month when I got my check from Melaleuca for $100. I thought they would keep that last check when I cancelled. I re-enrolled because I realized I might as well let the residual income checks keep coming and keep ordering the products I liked.

My residual income is now down to $17-$30/month. Last August, again I was about to cancel, but the hurricane season had us evacuating several times that month. We weren't hit as hard by Katrina as other parts of the gulf coast, but we had yard debris, power outages and school closings. I forgot to cancel or order that month and finally in mid-September called Melaleuca to find out why my back-up order hadn't arrived. To my surprise, Melaleuca had issued a monthly order certificate for my monthly commitment, free of charge to me. I don't even think I paid shipping for that order. They were doing this to help their customers that were affected by the hurricane. I was so impressed by that their decision to give us a month's order for free.

So as I began with, I have had some very big problems with the support group MomsWIN; but I have always been impressed with Melaleuca. In the end, each enrollee has to find out the details, the procedures, the rules. They have clear rules for quitting, call them and ask. Then do what they tell you to do.
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More on Melaleuca and Ethics

AUTHOR: Terri - (U.S.A.)

I am a preferred customer of Melaleuca. I tried to start the business about 3 years ago. My experiences have been similar to many reported on the rip-off report. So, I have had some very negative experiences with the business end, but the company is very ethical. Please read on to the end to find out how Melaleuca responded to the gulf coast residents after Katrina.

In general, the problems arise because:

1) Important details are glossed over due to trying to fit too much info into too short a time (back-up order, monthly commitment)

2) How much time and money it takes to build a business - not the company's fault, but some in the training calls overestimate the amount that is made at certain levels.

3) Your enroller's skills- will they be there to train you properly? In my organization when I did the business, I "inherited" enrollees from someone who quit. One customer was getting back-up orders every month. I called her 3 months in a row to tell her how to quit, but each month the back-up order went out. Finally, I wrote a cancellation letter for her, put it in a stamped envelope addressed to Melaleuca, and sent it to HER so that she could sign it and put it in the mail!!! When you read these rip-off reports, realize that sometimes people just don't follow instructions well.

I lost a lot of money buying leads. I bought all the products to test for myself. I read and educated myself through the Melaleuca material and the MomsWIN materials on their website. I jumped in with both feet. They say that the only unsuccessful marketing executives are those that quit. I couldn't afford to keep losing money. I now work a part-time job (I love it) to try to get back in the green.

There are about 6 Melaleuca products that I really like, so I have remained a customer. Twice I almost cancelled. The first time I cancelled it was when I decided not to pursue the business end. I was surprized the next month when I got my check from Melaleuca for $100. I thought they would keep that last check when I cancelled. I re-enrolled because I realized I might as well let the residual income checks keep coming and keep ordering the products I liked.

My residual income is now down to $17-$30/month. Last August, again I was about to cancel, but the hurricane season had us evacuating several times that month. We weren't hit as hard by Katrina as other parts of the gulf coast, but we had yard debris, power outages and school closings. I forgot to cancel or order that month and finally in mid-September called Melaleuca to find out why my back-up order hadn't arrived. To my surprise, Melaleuca had issued a monthly order certificate for my monthly commitment, free of charge to me. I don't even think I paid shipping for that order. They were doing this to help their customers that were affected by the hurricane. I was so impressed by that their decision to give us a month's order for free.

So as I began with, I have had some very big problems with the support group MomsWIN; but I have always been impressed with Melaleuca. In the end, each enrollee has to find out the details, the procedures, the rules. They have clear rules for quitting, call them and ask. Then do what they tell you to do.
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More on Melaleuca and Ethics

AUTHOR: Terri - (U.S.A.)

I am a preferred customer of Melaleuca. I tried to start the business about 3 years ago. My experiences have been similar to many reported on the rip-off report. So, I have had some very negative experiences with the business end, but the company is very ethical. Please read on to the end to find out how Melaleuca responded to the gulf coast residents after Katrina.

In general, the problems arise because:

1) Important details are glossed over due to trying to fit too much info into too short a time (back-up order, monthly commitment)

2) How much time and money it takes to build a business - not the company's fault, but some in the training calls overestimate the amount that is made at certain levels.

3) Your enroller's skills- will they be there to train you properly? In my organization when I did the business, I "inherited" enrollees from someone who quit. One customer was getting back-up orders every month. I called her 3 months in a row to tell her how to quit, but each month the back-up order went out. Finally, I wrote a cancellation letter for her, put it in a stamped envelope addressed to Melaleuca, and sent it to HER so that she could sign it and put it in the mail!!! When you read these rip-off reports, realize that sometimes people just don't follow instructions well.

I lost a lot of money buying leads. I bought all the products to test for myself. I read and educated myself through the Melaleuca material and the MomsWIN materials on their website. I jumped in with both feet. They say that the only unsuccessful marketing executives are those that quit. I couldn't afford to keep losing money. I now work a part-time job (I love it) to try to get back in the green.

There are about 6 Melaleuca products that I really like, so I have remained a customer. Twice I almost cancelled. The first time I cancelled it was when I decided not to pursue the business end. I was surprized the next month when I got my check from Melaleuca for $100. I thought they would keep that last check when I cancelled. I re-enrolled because I realized I might as well let the residual income checks keep coming and keep ordering the products I liked.

My residual income is now down to $17-$30/month. Last August, again I was about to cancel, but the hurricane season had us evacuating several times that month. We weren't hit as hard by Katrina as other parts of the gulf coast, but we had yard debris, power outages and school closings. I forgot to cancel or order that month and finally in mid-September called Melaleuca to find out why my back-up order hadn't arrived. To my surprise, Melaleuca had issued a monthly order certificate for my monthly commitment, free of charge to me. I don't even think I paid shipping for that order. They were doing this to help their customers that were affected by the hurricane. I was so impressed by that their decision to give us a month's order for free.

So as I began with, I have had some very big problems with the support group MomsWIN; but I have always been impressed with Melaleuca. In the end, each enrollee has to find out the details, the procedures, the rules. They have clear rules for quitting, call them and ask. Then do what they tell you to do.
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#17 UPDATE Employee

You can only do so much for a mass market

AUTHOR: Philena - (U.S.A.)

Gloria, if you do a search term, "Safe Substitutes" you will find some alternatives for safer products. The only problems with completely organic products are they have shorter shelf life and they can be quite expensive for that reason. Considering how much ppl are paying for medications, many are looking into safer household products, and don't have time to make cleaners out of vinegar, lemon juice, and baking soda that work but still not as effective. Some of the excuses I hear about this business, is just excuses not to join or put in the effort needed to build this business. If your faith in the products is not there, then you will not be succesful here and wish you the best of luck in looking for honest work from home. Every company has bad seeds. You just have to take the bad with the good, and move on to more open-minded individuals that are willing to take a chance and enhance lives while helping others reach their goals. ;)

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#18 Consumer Comment

Melaleuca is not safe

AUTHOR: Gloria - (U.S.A.)

I have a business with nutrition and do very well. However, I am very picky with what I offer.

A friend at church invited me to dinner with a few others. Then I found out what it was when I got there. A meeting.

Later on I was told time and time again how safe the products were. However, after asking for a list of ingredients they never gave me one.

I signed up. Lo' and behold some of their products I would never ever use.... in fact it was alot of their products.

I contacted Melaleuca and asked, "How can you say this is safe?" There were several ingredients that I know wasn't. Their response was, "You must be a Nxxx Distributor". Well, I wasn't.

Some of the products are downright not safe. Some are listed by the FDA as GRAS (Generally Regarded as Safe). GENERALLY REGARDED AS SAFE! Come on now... I want totally safe.

I quit. I knew better.

So many companies use chemicals then put a little essential oils in it or herbs and call it safe. Then they call themselves natural. What a sham!

Gloria
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#19 UPDATE Employee

Melaleuca and MomsWIN

AUTHOR: Betty - (U.S.A.)

I have been a member of Melaleuca since October 2003. I enrolled thinking this would be easy but I was never promised quick money or get rich. I was trained by MomsWIN thoroughly as they have their own website you don't pay for and they have all the training you will ever need.I didn't want to do in home presentations so MomsWIN appealed to me because I could work at home. The President Frank Vandersloot allows internet but he has some very strict guidelines. He would prefer if people presented Melaleuca in person whether it was one individual or several at someones home. He did say the only way a person could get hurt by Melaleuca is by purchasing leads. Leads are a gamble in any online marketing business. No one can promise you enrollments. Also, leads have to be worked when they are new and you need to be diligent in working them daily.

Many people disgruntled about Melaleuca have a right to be if they were not trained properly by the person who enrolled them. Also, things do happen to people. The company doesn't recieve their cancellation letter, they didn't get an order, so forth. Part of the problems I have faced are with computer error and human error. I believe in good customer service. I go to great lengths to get customer satisfaction.

An example:
We had a promotion that on enrolling, the customer would recieve $200 worth in free products. I enrolled 3 people on the last day of the promotion, called in their order over phone and faxed in paperwork. They recieved all the paperwork but one of the orders, which we forgot to write down the confirmation number, didn't get processed and they sent her a backup order. So, I called Business Developement and explained the problem. They looked into it and really tried, but because no confirmation number, no free products. She was crushed. I said, even if I have to pay out of my pocket, I will get you the $200 free products. I sent out an email to everyone on my team who could help me,also the Regional Director and I phone called him and left messages.I also wrote Melaleuca and explained the problem. Then I wrote Ariana Reed-Hager, founder of MomsWIN, and told her. She sent my letter in as well. Anyhow, Melaleuca called me and gave me a special number to call. I was told that definitely, my customer should get her free products and they did just that! So, if you are really a good customer representative, you will work hard for your customers. After all, things happen. Such is life.

Now, as far as the products go, the minute I stopped using my present laundry detergent, my son, who had excema on his face as an infant, cleared up. Non toxic products, whether Melaleuca or any other natural products, definitely make a difference in peoples health and wellness. There are chemicals in Melaleuca products but they are researched and are not suppose to have bad affects on a persons health. But, some people are allergic to one thing, another to something else. Also, many of Melaleucas products do have smells and people with chemical sensativity cannot use them.
One more thing, part of the big complaints have to do with the backup order. The company says PLEASE explain this to people thoroughly. It is no secret. It is a good thing. It ensures you never get your membership cancelled and if you are doing a business, it makes sure you get your check. It is the responsibility of the person who enrolled you to make this clear. Also, all products have a 2 month guaranteee, vitamins 3 months, and the enrollment fee 4 months. Your enroller should explain to you how this works and....not give you a hard time about it. The minute a person says I want out, I email them with everything they need to write down plus the address and the time frame the letter needs to be in. Again, it all goes back to good customer service and how that person was trained. You know, I actually did 3 orders on my own credit card because at the last minute, the person couldn't pay for their products. Two paid me back and I took the loss for the third. Why???? Not because I am stupid..I care about my customers. I email them monthly, I am there for them.....Oh and by the way, my customers get checks from Melaleuca. The very first customer I got recieves a monthly check between $25-$30 PER MONTH.I have others who also recieve checks from $2-$10 or more. As I grow my business, I place people in my organization and they get a commission check as well. Customers also get 10% back each month in advantage dollars to use toward free products as well. Listen, I am not making a huge amount with Melaleuca because I barely do the business. My income covers my monthly order with a little left over to pay a bill. If I want to grow this business, I can. In the meantime, the products are great, cost effective and I have made some wonderful friendships with really nice people.
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#20 UPDATE Employee

I agree with this persons comments

AUTHOR: Jen - (U.S.A.)

I surfed into this site looking for info
on another business opp that I knew was a scam
just by that companies main website and this website listed as the next link on the search engine.

I looked around at what people had to say about various topics and I found Melaleuca so I did some reading and registered so I could share my exp with them.

I dont make a small fortune nor was I ever promised that. On the avg I get a monthly check for 25.00-30.00 The reason I signed up was because I thought their products sounded great.
I ordered the Customer value pack and this is how I gained the 5 people who I am responsible for becoming preferred customers. I didnt need everything in the pack, Like detergent for an automatic dishwasher. I gave some things away to neighbors and they wanted more.

I know its easy to feel as if youve been scammed and I dont doubt many of the posters on this topic were not. But as with many other companies
the business is olny as good as the person who got you started and the training you recieved.
I feel the person who got me started was there for me and was completely honest.

One of the first things I was told was about the monthly buying and if I didnt order by the end of the month my backup order would be shipped and the payment method on file would be charged.
I know alot of people dont care about company policies or give much thought to how their actions affect the company they are representing
but it seems alot of the bad feelings generated
are because of a desire to make money quickly and leaving out the details. I hope that those who were not made fully aware of things like the
certain amount of product you must buy monthly to remain an active customer or told they would make heaps have reported the person who got them involved.

I cant offer any info on refunds because ive never requested one but I have had 2 people who signed up that fell on hard times and had to cancel their memberships. I even helped write their letters to the company. We mailed them on the 20th of the month and their membership was cancelled less than a week later.

I have never typed up an informational like this before but I hope this helps someone in the long run.

Thanks for your time.
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