- Report: #459812
Complaint Review: Merchant Services Direct, Direct Processing Center, Ipayment, TMS (Total Merchant Services) WWSS
| Merchant Services Direct, Direct Processing Center, Ipayment, TMS (Total Merchant Services) WWSS 9212 E Montgomery Ave Ste 400
Spokane Valley, Washington U.S.A. |
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Merchant Services Direct, Direct Processing Center, Ipayment, TMS, Total Merchant Services, WWSS PLEASE READ THIS! HANG UP THE PHONE or they will rip you off! Don't get SCAMMED by these WORLD WIDE MERCHANT SERVICES DIRECT LIARS. Spokane Valley Washington
*UPDATE Employee: MSD Response to Ex- Agents
*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Responding to Julia
*UPDATE Employee: Response to #10
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Sharon is correct
*UPDATE Employee: MSD Response 1/16/13
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: How they really work
*Consumer Comment: Are you on the RIGHT bandwagon? MSD Saved us lots o'$$$
*UPDATE Employee: Rebuttal to Recent Comment
*Consumer Comment: scare them
*UPDATE Employee: Merchant Services Direct
*General Comment: Waste of Time - Show them no respect
*UPDATE Employee: interview process, not shady
*General Comment: Interesting Incounter.
*General Comment: Dear "Great Talker"
*Author of original report: RE: Misinformed
*Consumer Comment: Another merchant being screwed
*Consumer Comment: Greg is right!
*Consumer Comment: Bad Company
*General Comment: Don't say no if your trying to save. Seriously.
*Consumer Comment: Company tried to hire me, shady practices.
*UPDATE Employee: you are miss informed
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Account Issue
*General Comment: *insert Cops BAD BOYS WHAT YOU GONNA DO
*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Mr. "Great talker"
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: False Report
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To protect myself from the B squad at Merchant Services Direct processing center or World Wide Solutions or Ipayment or TMS or whatever they are called I am not going to disclose my name or business info.
In short I was contacted by a Anthony Smith (great talker) who told me he was from Visa and Mastercard (which later i found out he is not). He told me that I was not getting a good rate for my merchant services account and he was going to put me on a rate directly from visa and mastercard which would save me a lot because I would be skipping all of the middle men.
So I set up an appointment with him. He showed up on time, looked at my statement and got all frantic like when he looked at it and then got all excited which got me excited telling me how much money I was going to save by "going direct". So I got all the paperwork signed and was excited about the "free machine". Now comes the bullshit! He told me I needed to pay $299 for a setup or conversion fee.
I don't quite remember and then told me that in order to get the direct rates that I needed to sign a 4 year contract that would cost me an additional $99.99 per month. He said "the good thing is you will only have to pay this for 4 years". Now even though this was a terrible idea. He was an aggressive piece of shit manipulating sales guy and I was very busy so I signed. Now when the day was over I looked at all of this and got a little worried so I called and asked to cancel.
The lady at the other end told me I needed to call the sales office. Well I did call the # on his card and He told me that would get a hold of him. So now what! I tried and tried and now I am stuck. I just got my first bill and it did not save me the $200 per month he said it was going to it only saved $37 from my last bill and I processed the same amount as last month! Please do not sign with these fraudulent liars! I promise you will regret it!
Greg
spokane, Washington
U.S.A.
This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 06/08/2009 06:09 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Merchant-Services-Direct-Direct-Processing-Center-Ipayment-TMS-Total-Merchant-Services-WWSS/Spokane-Valley-Washington-99212/Merchant-Services-Direct-Direct-Processing-Center-Ipayment-TMS-Total-Merchant-Services-459812. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.
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Search Tips#1 UPDATE Employee
MSD Response to Ex- Agents
AUTHOR: Senior HR/Legal Administrator - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, January 22, 2013
POSTED: Tuesday, January 22, 2013Each agent that markets and sells our products and services signs agreements that are transparent in how agents will be paid, as well as their relationship with MSD. Further, each of our agents must adhere to the MSD Code of Ethics which is a strict guide on how agents must act ethically in their order to be an active agent of MSD. If you would like to discuss specific complaints about an owner, agent, or office, I would be happy to personally assist you. Please call our corporate office and ask to be transferred to Legal if you would like your complaints addressed with more specificity.
#2 REBUTTAL Individual responds
Responding to Julia
AUTHOR: Paul Gavin - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, January 21, 2013
POSTED: Monday, January 21, 2013Now you are attacking me?
Yes my original complaint regarding fees was eventually addressed and corrected - but only after filing complaints here, the BBB and the attorney general. It was not a great experience and certainly not immediate.
Based on our experience - I would still stay away from this company. I do not need the headaches of dealing with them. I do not need people like Julia attacking me publicly either.
#3 UPDATE Employee
Response to #10
AUTHOR: Julia - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, January 21, 2013
POSTED: Monday, January 21, 2013#4 UPDATE EX-employee responds
Sharon is correct
AUTHOR: RN - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, January 20, 2013
POSTED: Sunday, January 20, 2013There is a "loophole" in the minimum wage law that allows "outside sales" people to be paid nothing (aka "commission only"). This makes sense for products that actually sell, but is a total abuse with Boiler Room products and services that require deceptive, high pressure tactics.
There is undoubtedly misrepresentation of profitability, and misrepresentation of earnings potential. Any company with a legitimate and respectable product or service will pay you minimum wage as a "draw" against commission, and they will reimburse you for the use of your own car. This scam company does neither.
#5 UPDATE Employee
MSD Response 1/16/13
AUTHOR: Julia - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, January 16, 2013
POSTED: Wednesday, January 16, 2013#6 UPDATE EX-employee responds
How they really work
AUTHOR: Sharon - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, December 27, 2012
POSTED: Thursday, December 27, 2012#7 Consumer Comment
Are you on the RIGHT bandwagon? MSD Saved us lots o'$$$
AUTHOR: Chane - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, August 07, 2012
POSTED: Tuesday, August 07, 2012Hey, it takes money to make money right? YES, in my world it does. So what if they charged a set up, they were right were right to. The savings they offered us more than made up for the cost of switching providers... within only 2 months. Beyond that, we have saved more than $3000 since we started with MSD only 10 months ago. That's $3000 we wouldn't have had in our pockets had it not been for Merchant Services Direct!
I know that there are many 3rd party card processing services out there, that WILL take advantage of the gullible or ill informed, but MSD has proven to me that they are not one of them. They have served my business and many other surrounding merchants businesses, very well indeed.
It almost sounded to me from what that fella said, that maybe he had dealt with some other similarly named company...also he stated that he WAS saving money, just not as much as he had hoped for, so who knows. He obviously didn't look at the whole big picture. If that guy chose to lease his equipment for that $99 mo. instead of just buying it, that explains everything. Everyone knows it costs more in the long run to lease than to buy outright. Plus, leased equipment is always locked out, because it's on lease...and that lease was HIS choice!
Please take care to be informed, I did my homework and chose MSD. I am glad I did... and I ask that anyone, before they jump onto any ole' passing band wagon, please just be sure it really is the one that they want and mean to ride!
#8 UPDATE Employee
Rebuttal to Recent Comment
AUTHOR: Ariel - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, May 18, 2012
POSTED: Friday, May 18, 2012#9 Consumer Comment
scare them
AUTHOR: Mike - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, May 16, 2012
POSTED: Wednesday, May 16, 2012we now demand to see id from every sales person that comes in our business trying to sell something
( not their company id, their drivers lic) we even send someone out to get their car lic plate info)
I explain to them, ( if they actually give us the info, as most leave here like their ass in on fire once we ask for their personal info) that if they are trying to scam us, or we don't like the service we will know where to find them, and not deal with the company, but them directly.
I also tell them ( if they are still here) its only fair, since they know where we are just by showing up on our property. this eliminates a lot of b.s. in the long run.
just recently some turkey come in here trying to tell us he could provide us with better phone servic plan, when we demaned his dirvers lic for proff of id, ( he noticed we took down his car lic info) he took off insuch a hurry, he sideswiped the dumpster in our lot. ( no problem for the dumpster, but his passenger side mirror is still here incase he wants it back)
I say dont let these kind of crooks get away with anything. they are no more than common criminals, they just carry a note book rather than sneak in your back door to rob you.
all IMHO
#10 UPDATE Employee
Merchant Services Direct
AUTHOR: MSDirect - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, March 01, 2012
POSTED: Thursday, March 01, 2012#11 General Comment
Waste of Time - Show them no respect
AUTHOR: Tyler O - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, February 23, 2012
POSTED: Thursday, February 23, 2012However, the script and m/o are identical to what's been described, above.
Their persistence turns into rudeness and a total disrespect for your time (they keep calling back if you hang up on them - even when you're polite about it). I suspect they have some kind of internal contest to see which telemarketer can take the most harassment back from someone they call (of course, that's only a theory).
I believe the best thing you can do to discourage their behavior is to waste their time in return - I just put the phone down and let them talk as long as they want until they hang up - and also to take a few minutes to tell others what a bad experience you had with them, too.
#12 UPDATE Employee
interview process, not shady
AUTHOR: Employee - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, January 10, 2012
POSTED: Tuesday, January 10, 2012For every place that has to call people, they have a script and they call people they might not know. That's what cold calling is. To let you know, Becky is a great person. Why you dropped her name in here, i don't know, except for the fact that she is awesome! :)
A lot of businesses are interviewing tons of people, and in a place so populated in Portland, you are gonna have a lot of people looking for maybe 4 openings. That's why it's an easier process to have group interviews, and hopefully at least one stands out from that crowd.
In my interview there were two other people who joined me and we were all seeking a job opportunity. I figured I would give it my best and show my personality anyways, but this was a job I had researched before submitting my resume. I never go to a job simply because it's a job, but rather a place that I want to work in.
I saw right away that people were nice, of course I was nervous, but I saw it as what I had read about---a great environment to work in. I was called back for a day of observance, learned the training basics, and even studied what I learned all that day! (im an over achiever, but I really wanted this job. I mean, I gave a cover letter with a plastic slip over it, haha).
What they told me they were looking for was work ethic and a positive attitude. at the end of the day, I was hired, and that night I celebrated! This was a big accomplishment, because it was something I really wanted!
First of all, I am sorry that you saw this place as a company with "shady practices". Let me clear some things up for you and hopefully this helps!
In your interview, they answered your question. You asked how we get paid. the company's rates for processing are half a percent, a statement fee, and .08 cents transaction fee. which this is a low rate for the industry. You might not have learned that from an interview, but if you were actually looking for a career like this, then on your day of observance, we would have filled you in on why that is and the commission structure. It is a commission-paid job and you make your own money.
Furthermore, when you heard people on the phone calling businesses, that is correct. why we say in our cold call reading, "we need to speak with the person who handles the merchant account", is because they are the person who would best understand what we are talking about.
I mean, it's useless talking to someone who isn't. Most of the time, people don't know anything you try to tell them about it, but if they are the person who handles the merchant account, then they are the ones who actually look at the merchant statements and specialize in those things, so they understand when you say, "processing company".
When you go to an emergency room, you don't rely on the receptionist to take you back to a room, check out your wounds, patch you up and send you out the door fixed, right? Although receptionist are very helpful, their job is to inform a doctor and nurse who would be able to help you, and then the doctor would see you because they specialize in that.
Overall, our interview process isn't "shady". In fact, it's a normal process for a company, and I hope I have cleared this up for you and everyone else.
#13 General Comment
Interesting Incounter.
AUTHOR: Curious - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, September 29, 2011
POSTED: Thursday, September 29, 2011We are in California I was just curious as to if they could be related. I do know that the CEO of this company is Shane Hurley and lives in Spokane and started the company in 07 as a 26 years old. These people today came from San Diego I am thinking it is the same company especially after reading all of your guys experiences with them.
Also, I do believe that all of the comments defending this company are most likely that a employee did it or the company paid someone to go and write good reviews like most companies do. I would love anyone elses comments or information!
#14 General Comment
Dear "Great Talker"
AUTHOR: Brock - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, September 28, 2011
POSTED: Wednesday, September 28, 2011#15 Author of original report
RE: Misinformed
AUTHOR: Greg - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, August 17, 2011
POSTED: Wednesday, August 17, 2011#16 Consumer Comment
Another merchant being screwed
AUTHOR: Paul Gavin - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, July 14, 2011
POSTED: Thursday, July 14, 2011The rep stated they could integrate to our POS system (he probably tells that lie to everyone). He said the IT guy would call before the account was set up to verify. Next thing we heard from them - a crappy terminal and a statement. When I related all of this to customer service at Merchant Services Direct, more than one person mind, they just could not give a whit. Call your rep they said and gave that name and number, OK so the rep at that shady company didn't offer any help either. This is great customer service.
So if a rep from Merchant Services Direct comes calling, my advice would be to ask them to leave and never return! If you want a great deal on credit card processing go look for it yourself, do not listen to any of these 'reps'. Most are simpletons who know very little outside of the popular POS systems.
I have filed a "General Consumer Complaint" complaint with the Attorney General as mentioned previously. I am not a disgruntled employee. I AM a consumer who will likely run off any merchant services rep who comes calling from now on.
#17 Consumer Comment
Greg is right!
AUTHOR: AVOID LFG & total merchant services - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, June 20, 2011
POSTED: Monday, June 20, 2011The machines are security blocked to prevent a different company from using them (this is of course the machine that you've spent $2000 for--of course the only reason you would need to change the information on the machine is if your bank account has been accessed by this company (and for you die hard supporters of Total Merchant Services) is the real power behind the scenes: Lease Financial group... check out the blogs and reports on them, those will make your hair curl. So after you need to change banks so your account isn't directly being withdrawn, your new bank needs to enter their information into the machine that you "own" and can't because of the security block that was entered, and entered where... Total merchant Services, why, because they promise to give you the best rates around with all the bell and whistles to boot.
In feeling like a dope for signing up with these criminals to begin with I started looking for information on their activites, and guess what... I'm not the only one. They target small businesses and make promises they have no intention of keeping. I'm surprised there hasn't been a class action law suit yet, but I'm sure there will be one within the next few years.
If you've been cheated and robbed by this group, please contact the Attorney General's Office and file a formal complaint. Yes, it's time consuming, but in the long run it will save you. Here is there web site: http://www.atg.wa.gov/ContactUs.aspx
Given the amount of folks I've spoken to about this company, don't believe any of the so called positive reviews: "best company ever", "never had trouble with them"... it wouldn't surprise me at all if those positive reviews were employees of the company.
#18 Consumer Comment
Bad Company
AUTHOR: the guy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, April 20, 2011
POSTED: Wednesday, April 20, 2011#19 General Comment
Don't say no if your trying to save. Seriously.
AUTHOR: AnneMarie - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, April 18, 2011
POSTED: Monday, April 18, 2011I would defiantly read more reviews than this ripoff report before deciding to NOT go with this company. The savings are great, and this person just sounds like their goal was to ruin the reputation due to their own issues from working there. Anthony Smith, IS a great talker I agree but what great sales man isn't? It's what sales men (ladies) do. It is their job.
All in all, any company whom makes a reasonable amount of money a month, that does not take advantage of this program is not trying to save money, if you want to save money... go with Merchant services direct, I save almost 3 hundred dollars a month. This company truly wants to help the economy and how better than saving company's a bucket load of money each month?
I have written this because one of my good friends told me they had turned down this offer because they have read reviews online that state that the company is a scam, I was pretty upset as I feel a sort of protection for this company. This is a good, but unrecognized company.
Proud customer of Merchant services Direct.
#20 Consumer Comment
Company tried to hire me, shady practices.
AUTHOR: PortlandOR4Hire - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, April 02, 2011
POSTED: Saturday, April 02, 2011I applied for a job that was advertising a new merchant services office that was opening and all positions were available. I applied for a position hoping to get a customer service position.
The company listed was Merchant Services Direct, Greater Portland Merchant Services.
10725 SW Barbur Blvd, Suite 102
Portland, OR 97219
1-877-928-0305
1-509-252-0519
A Becky Strantz called me in for an interview, the person I was to interview with was Dustin Gluekert.
Upon arriving to the office building suite, it was set up as a call center. There was one main room with a couple of private offices surrounding the bullpen. There were about 12 or so cubicles in the bullpen. Most offices usually have their network routers and switches in a dedicated room, this place looked like it was set up in a hurry, it was in front of all the cubicles with one main printer fax machine next to it. This office looked to me to be set up as a temporary location.
I was waiting for an interview with 3 people, more people were coming in every 10 minutes. There was no one to greet us, just a room full of mostly males, about 6 of them.
While waiting I could overhear the conversations that were going on between the company and the customer. The following are some of the things I overheard:
"I am with your merchant services company and I would like to discuss a change of rate with you"
"I need to discuss your merchant services account, are you the person I need to talk to"
"There have been changed in your merchant services account that I need to notify you about"
"Is there anyone available to talk to regarding your card processing services"
"There are new requirements that you should be notified about processing card transactions"
When I was brought in to talk to Dustin Gluekert I was already concerned about the situation. Upon talking to Dustin he talked about the position, talking about a great opportunity to work for his company.
He said he was a wholesaler of credit card processing services, where most company's pay anywhere from 2-4% per transactions, they offered wholesale prices of 0.5%. He said his services were easy to sell because of the great savings his company provided. That most of his guys earn about 1200 a week. I asked him how his company could offer a 0.5% rate and maintain his workforce and overhead costs, at that point he asked me if I was a person that was open to new ideas and a team player.
He said that Monday - Wednesday they cold call small to medium sized company's to set up appointments. In these appointments we attempt to sign a new contract with the company for Merchant Services Direct to be their credit card processing provider.
I again asked how a merchant services company could only charge 0.5% per transaction to small to medium business and cover overhead costs, and he asked me if I was interested in making money or not.
There is something very wrong with this company, they would not answer my questions as an employee.
#21 UPDATE Employee
you are miss informed
AUTHOR: irishpatrick - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, November 16, 2010
POSTED: Monday, November 15, 2010#22 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Account Issue
AUTHOR: MSD - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, June 08, 2010
POSTED: Tuesday, June 08, 2010Mr. Merchant,
If you are indeed a real company and have an honest interest in resolving your issues then I suggest you call into support at 877-928-0305. Not only have we exhausted time searching "greg spokane" but using the figures you disclosed in your complaint $299 setup and a $99.99 monthly contract we have been unsuccessful finding any such account with the fees you disclosed.
#23 General Comment
*insert Cops BAD BOYS WHAT YOU GONNA DO
AUTHOR: Gonnagetyeah - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, April 02, 2010
POSTED: Friday, April 02, 2010#24 REBUTTAL Individual responds
Mr. "Great talker"
AUTHOR: Anthony Smith - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, March 04, 2010
POSTED: Thursday, March 04, 2010My name is anthony amith, and although i appreciate the "great talker" comment, i feel thats its absolutely neccessary for me to rebulltle this claim that the company i represent employ's "fraudulent liars", or that i myself am a "aggressive piece of shit manipulating sales guy ". As im sure anyone who is reading this can imagine regardless of how great your product or services really are there is always bound to be a few un happy or bad apples out of the bunch. I personally have been in the industry, and with merchant services direct, for what is almost three years now and have helped over 300 clients (industry specific refferals available upon request) save a considerable amount of money on there Credit card proccessing systems. I have been a member of several different Chamber of commerce and have worked my hardest to make sure that every interaction that i have with a merchant works out to better there current situation.
A few thing's that i would like to point out that i beleive discredits Mr. "Greg" is that at the end of his report he states simply that he saved $37.00. A little odd to me that he makes a rip off report and concludes it with " it only saved $37 from my last bill and I processed the same amount as last month! " Also and more importantly i think the fact that we have only one of these so called "rip off reports" and a track record with over 2000 satisfied clients speaks louder than anything Mr "Greg" has to say about myself or my company.
In conclusion if your thinking of switching your currrent processing system to merchant services direct and are simply "doing your homework" (which i encourage), i and my company, are more than happy to furnish any references that i beleive will make you feel more at ease with making the transition. Please feel free to contact myself with any questions you may have about our service.
Thanks for your attention and understanding.
Sincerely
"THE GREAT TALKER"
#25 REBUTTAL Owner of company
False Report
AUTHOR: MSD - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, March 04, 2010
POSTED: Thursday, March 04, 2010This report is signed by Greg of Spokane WA. Our company has done an extensive search in our database attempting to search for this customer. This merchant does not exist. The report was filed by a disgruntled former employee.
As always our company is dedicated to a high level of service and we encourage our customers to contact our 24/7 customer service department with any issues what so ever.

