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  • Submitted: Mon, February 25, 2002
  • Updated: Tue, June 05, 2012

  • Reported By:Tempe Arizona
Mesa Arizona - Judges - Police
Mesa, Arizona U.S.A.

Mesa Arizona Police Corruption fleabag judges and smokescreen makers of the lowest order *EDitor's Comment

*Consumer Suggestion: FRAUD IS FRAUD, John, you weasel

*Consumer Suggestion: More "hot news", Mesa style...

*Consumer Suggestion: Mesa might try telling the truth, or at least, some of it...

*Consumer Suggestion: Demented Leadership in a city amounts to suicide

*Consumer Suggestion: Call Mesa police for help? Why?

*Consumer Suggestion: Call Mesa police for help? Why?

*Consumer Suggestion: Call Mesa police for help? Why?

*Consumer Suggestion: It is far worse than almost anyone knows!

*Consumer Suggestion: Suggestion: tear it up and start over!

*Consumer Suggestion: Hilarious! Sin Tax? Isn't that the Mesa thing with booze?

*Consumer Suggestion: Huh? ..Mesa city government is pretty much a

*Consumer Suggestion: This place is scary

*Consumer Suggestion: This place is scary

*Consumer Suggestion: This place is scary

*Consumer Suggestion: This place is scary

*Consumer Comment: Was all this written by the same person? worth reserving judgement on the police department as a whole

*Consumer Suggestion: They graduated from perjury to murder

*Consumer Suggestion: They graduated from perjury to murder

*Consumer Suggestion: They graduated from perjury to murder

*Consumer Suggestion: They graduated from perjury to murder

*Consumer Suggestion: Tell me about corruption and injustice... You already have.

*Consumer Comment: Why would anyone call Mesa P.D.? Insurance Purposes?

*Consumer Suggestion: It is a meeting of the minds--lily-livered chickens and MormoNazis...

*UPDATE Employee: Funny. Hilarious. Stupid, actually.

*Consumer Suggestion: Interesting guy, "John"...notice he doesn't actually dispute anything?

*Consumer Suggestion: John, ignorance is obviously almos ALL of your problem...that and corruption.

*Consumer Suggestion: Notice how they evade the key questions and issues?

*Consumer Suggestion: John is a GREAT comedy writer. I wonder if he knows that.

*Consumer Suggestion: What? Where? Sure as hell, not Mesa...

*Consumer Suggestion: I get so tired of hearing these thieving scumbuckets make third-rate excuses... MESA P.D. LIES FOR A LIVING!!!!

*Consumer Suggestion: Kind of amusing to watch these guilty rats try to make excuses, isn't it?

*Consumer Suggestion: FACTS hard and cold and unmitigated

*Consumer Suggestion: I have been to Mesa. I will never go there again.

*0: EDitor's Response to the Above Comments

*Consumer Suggestion: Welcome to Mesa. Grab your wallet, if you are not MORMON...

*Consumer Comment: Mesa could try fairness or honesty. For this town, it would be a revolutionary approach.

*Consumer Suggestion: John, seems to me the ignorance is YOURS....

*Consumer Suggestion: Same Old Same Old...meanwhile, back at the Temple....

*Consumer Suggestion: John.. get a life.. you are obviously under the influence of demented scum you work for.

*Consumer Suggestion: The facts are the facts. The other stuff--the lies, the coverups, the graft, the corruption--is Mesa's childish excuses.

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Wasted time, wasted effort....just a waste! When the captain is nuts, the ship can't sail straight.

*Consumer Suggestion: It will get much worse, unless something is done IMMEDIATELY....

*Consumer Suggestion: Isn't it SICK that they get away with this TRASH?

*Consumer Suggestion: Cover lies with lies, and delude yourself, you parasitic idiot.

*Consumer Suggestion: John is either a fool, deceiving himself, or a typical

*Consumer Comment: If you're not faithful with few things . . .

*Consumer Suggestion: John from Gilbert is a typical lying scumbag mesa official

*Consumer Suggestion: endless lies solve nothing, sweeping reform in mesa MIGHT.... Mesa P.D. and the lunatics who surround them

*Consumer Suggestion: Mesa needs reform IMMEDIATELY, and it starts with putting 60-75% of the police, all of the local judges, and especially the City Manager and Police Chief on the streets, or more appropriately, in prison where they belong.

*UPDATE Employee: Jim, look and the whole picture and not just the narrow minded view of your letter and insight.

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It is amusing to watch the antics of the Mesa thought police, from corrupt, criminal cops to fleabag judges and smokescreen makers of the lowest order.

Mesa is a lousy place for a major business simply because it is openly hostile to anyone who isn't of the "old guard"...forget traditional liberal/conservative identities, only the LDS connection means anything here. The "City Fathers" give no breaks or even simple cooperation to anyone not in their tight little circle, and that is why the Champlin Museum will leave, and probably the CAF as well. Major businesses don't even want to nose around here, because they know, long-term, they will be ripped off just as with all "outsiders". Of course, we use the term "Mormon" for the hardcore power structure; the reality is, that's just an edifice and an excuse. They are Mormons, of course, but it's not the religion that disgusts most of us, it's the easy criminality that drives the "GOBN"... The city has spent well over a century ripping off newcomers for fun and profit, and it continues to amaze me that fools like myself

It is annoying to see cops every day, paid $35,000 per annum while still at the academy, who mostly belong in permanent incarceration, who do fraud many times each day on their bogus police reports, and who studiously avoid anything which involves actual law enforcement. They are cowards and criminals. They deserve no respect whatsoever. And the filth who appoint them deserve even less!

Jim T
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#1 Consumer Suggestion

FRAUD IS FRAUD, John, you weasel

AUTHOR: Leslie - (U.S.A.)

John, apparently we have to lower our
vocabulary and use small words to make it
clear to you, you ignorant, gutless, sissy:
FRAUD IS FRAUD. You and your colleagues
lie every day, and my particular case included
multiple cases of easily provable lies, and
the scumbucket who arrested me has a long record
of bogus crap. Yes, dirtwad, I was arrested,
but not for a crime; I was arrested for the
short-term ego and "scalp gathering" benefit
of one of your cowardly, as----e associates,
even though I WAS MYSELF A CRIME VICTIM.

Thus, due to the dishonesty of another
scumbag, I was now the victim of multiple
crimes, to include fraud by your silly-assed,
chickenshit organization, which also (I have
witnesses and documentation to this, John,
you gutless maggot piece of dung, and can
prove it in open court, and would welcome the
easy opportunity to humiliate this filth)
includes obstruction of justice and obfuscation
by removal of exculpatory evidence.

Now, you lowlife, knuckle dragging ratbastard,
let me make this clear: if you and you colleagues
want to contest even one word of that, let me know. You wouldn't have a chance!

It's really easy for you pissants, with your
kevlar vests and fully automatic weapons--and
I hasten to add a lower injury and fatality
rate than at least 100 professions, including
MY OWN--to pretend you are doing something dangerous or adventurous, but what you do is LIE!!!!!!!

A jury agreed with me. Yes, innocent on all
charges, and the jury foreman called me and
suggested I pursue perjury and criminal harassment and other charges against your
maggot colleague AND THE PROSECUTOR. I had
already tried, and could not find anyone willing
to even pursue civil action. Indeed, the
Romley running dog prosecutor I approached
told me my evidence was good, tried to scam me
into handing over my witnesses, etc., and then
threatened me when I perceived the shitwad's
REAL motives.

These scum belong in prison , forever. They are
far worse than any of the so-called "crooks"
they deal with. That these maggots were finally
willing to make some recent meth arrests, based
on information developed in Ohio, is fascinating.
Many of the rats thus busted were the
ones I tried to report more than twelve years
ago.

John, if a fair federal administration ever
hits Washington, you are DOOMED, and so
are the pukebuckets you work with.

You are NOT a cop. You are a goddamned nuisance,
and your "department" is something of which any
decent Mesa citizen should be ashamed. Mesa
P.D. is a cancer and a disorder, and needs to
be excised.
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#2 Consumer Suggestion

More "hot news", Mesa style...

AUTHOR: Leslie - (U.S.A.)

Oh, lovely! Mesa Councilman Rex Griswold,
recently arrived darling and flunky protector
of the corruption rats who run Mesa P.D.,
has just "predicted" there will be a
"nationwide search" for Dennis Donna's
replacement.

Yes, indeed. Nationwide search. Yup.
It will end with the most malleable, dishonest
lap puppet for the liars and criminals
of the local establishment and their
dirtbag cronies, just as it has the last
several times this mockery was gone through,
including the "search" for the toad,
Hutchinson, personal lap dog and flunky
puppet for Charles Luster, the last openly
MormoNazi City Manager.

The "Nationwide Search" is a front, a
bogus, "makework" giveaway for some
consulting firm to give the impression
this retarded and demented "police department"
actually serves some public function and
obeys some societal rules, neither of which
has ever been true.

Council Griswold, is that monkey still
available? He would surely be better than
most of the officers of Mesa P.D. I have
met, and perhaps he could be trained or
housebroken. The last two results of
P.D. "searches" were worse than useless;
that COULD BE because you are looking in
a SEWER...namely, Mesa P.D. There are damned
few gems to be found amongst the smelly
lumpies.

Do none of you gutless toads know the
meaning of words like "reform" and "ethics"?

We've had enough perjurers and criminals.
Someone who has had some real law enforcement
experience might be a good idea, and I cannot
think of a single denizen of this collection
of spinless bugs who meets even a small
portion of that specification.

Find another venue for your silly lies,
Councilman Griswold. We've seen too much.
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#3 Consumer Suggestion

Mesa might try telling the truth, or at least, some of it...

AUTHOR: Leslie - (U.S.A.)

Well, well. Mesa, finally, got involved
in a major methamphetamine drug bust. What
the "house organ" of corrupt Maricopa County
Government DOES NOT tell the "citizens"
is:
(1. This is the VERY SAME drug business
upon which I and several other citizens
were reporting 17 years ago, and being
constantly shrugged off and even told
to "go away" and it was a "silly fantasy".
Even the addresses of most of the arrests
were ones we supplied. Which means, for
all intents and purposes, this same work
could have been done more than a decade
and a half ago, before how ever many
people died and got corrupted grew to
such vast numbers;

(2. These arrests would never have happened
if it had not been for the expanding
tentacles of this very well-developed
illegal business stretching clear to
Ohio and elsewhere...meaning the locals,
as usual, proved to be their customary
ignorant, corrupt, incompetent, cowardly
selves, and nothing would have
happened in a positive sense--as is
ALWAYS the case in Mesa--without
profound pressure from outside.

Here, complete as it run but without much
productive information for assessing the
performances of these sluggards is the candied-up
version of what happened, as presented by
THE ARIZONA REPUBLIC...basically a propaganda
piece, but if you read between the lines,
then you learn something.
...............................................

Bust topples Mesa ring, police say

Bust topples Mesa ring, police say
The Arizona Republic
Sept. 21, 2005 12:00 AM
A three-year investigation of drugs smuggled from Mexico started with tracing 90 percent pure Mexican methamphetamine seized in Cleveland, Ohio to a major drug ring in Mesa.

It culminated Tuesday in the East Valley in a series of arrests that authorities say crippled the Mendivil Vega drug ring, which sometimes used children to distribute meth,
cocaine and marijuana throughout the Valley and nation.

Mesa police and federal Drug Enforcement Administration agents arrested eight of 51 suspects named in a 285-count indictment
and served five more with summonses.

Arizona Attorney General Terry Goddard said he conservatively estimates the Mesa-based ring shipped 20 pounds of meth, 20
kilograms of cocaine and 500 pounds of marijuana a month to several states, including New York, Colorado, Nebraska, Illinois, Ohio and Kentucky.

"This is the largest, in terms of suspects and the amount of drugs, in recent history," Mesa Police Chief Dennis Donna said.

Police suspect several shootings are connected to the ring,
including that of suspected kingpin Levi Mendivil Vega, a Mesa resident who was among 11 suspects in custody before Tuesday
morning's raids, Donna said. Mendivil Vega is charged with conspiracy, participating in a criminal syndicate, illegal enterprise and using minors in drug offenses.

Children were used in the transportation and sale of drugs, with a child present during the sale of a pound of meth,
police said.



Although the ring's turf was a three- to five-mile area of central Mesa, it had stash houses and made drug sales throughout the Valley, Donna said.
Police said the drug business involved several generations of the same family and
had operated for about five years.

The ring specialized in the importation and distribution of drugs from Mexico, said Special Agent-in-Charge Douglas
Hebert of the DEA's Phoenix office.

"I think initially there will be a void, but there's probably someone who will step up to the plate and fill those shoes,"
Hebert said.

Donna said a key factor in the investigation was the use of wiretaps arranged by prosecutors with the Attorney General's
Office with the help of the DEA.

The DEA and Mesa police worked together to bring down the ring
after they discovered in early
2004 that they were targeting
the same suspects, Donna said.

Without the wiretaps, "we'd be hard-pressed to make that happen," Donna said.

Officers and agents had no problems in making the arrests, mostly in Mesa, officials said.Goddard said the ring was
crippled because police arrested top management, middle management and low-level dealers. The arrests grew out of a previous takedown in March, when 13 people were indicted on federal drug charges.

Arrested Tuesday were: Jose Chaidez, 26, charged with using
minors in drug offenses; Jose Angel Corrales Jr., 20, charged
with transfer or offer to
sell drugs; Bailey Elizabeth Dornan,
30, charged with auto theft and operating an illegal enterprise; Javier Gastelum, 33, charged with trafficking in stolen property; Carmen Lynn Gastelo, charged with numerous counts of using electronic communication to commit a felony;
Oscar Manuel Guillen, 21, charged
with transportation for sale
of marijuana; Henry Silva, 22, charged with illegally conducting a criminal enterprise and other charges; and Jonmichael Anthony Ruiz, 20, charged with illegally conducting a criminal enterprise.
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Check some of the online threads for addresses
of posts--open internet informing, actually--on
address on Doran Street and Stapley, among others, from over a decade ago, and you will see
what is meant.
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#4 Consumer Suggestion

Demented Leadership in a city amounts to suicide

AUTHOR: Leslie - (U.S.A.)

Mesa's "management" is so crazy and
wasteful, it is leading to cracks in their
facade. How they managed to find a citizen's
group retarded enough to not notice the
wasted money and eroded business base, not
to mention the crime problems which the
so-called "police department" is NOT addressing,
must be very hilarious.

Still, the sales tax is going to pieces, which
is why the "police" (I hesitate to call them
that, even as a joke) are so predatory
and aggressive, without actually dealing with
anyone DANGEROUS. Why, the could get HURT!!!!!

My suggestion: sell the city and divide it
up amongst Scottsdale, Apache Junction, Tempe,
Gilbert, Chandler, and Phoenix, and put
the perpetrators who have made it into a
little concentration camp and resort for
lunatics of their and some other persuasions,
and of course, for the methamphetamine trade,
deep into some dungeon somewhere, forever,
where they have belonged for a very long time.

But here's what is ACTUALLY happening, told
from the "house organ" of the local fascist
lunatics.
......................................
Mesa voters may be asked to O-K new taxes

MESA, Ariz. A citizen's committee says Mesa
voters should be asked to O-K a new city
property tax and raise sales taxes to provide a
stable funding source for the city.
Mesa faces a projected budget shortfall of 24
(m) million dollars by 2007 and 78 (m) million
by 2011.

The committee report says the city should have a
property tax for the first time since 1945, but
didn't recommend a rate. It also says the city's
sales tax should be increased to one point seven
five percent.

The city council has until January to decide if
voters will be asked to O-K the taxes in May's
election.

The 14-member committee was charged with
examining the city's finances and coming up with
recommendations on how to deal with upcoming
issues. They reported to the city council that
they found no sign of financial mismanagement.
___
Information from: East Valley Tribune/Scottsdale
Tribune, http://www.aztrib.com
Copyright 2005

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This is an obvious attempt by the same
liars and thieves to protect their phoney-baloney
jobs, at any price.

This and their "stability pay" and their
distortions of the city charter...

Maybe they should build another of their
insane "Art Centers" and charge more admission...
say, $250 a head. I doubt it would have
any effect on attendance, since no one
is interested in seeing the visual
reminders of the lunatics who run the
city, anyway. There's enough of that right
outside.

Or, more practically, since the sniveling
worms are unable to confront the meth dealers:
why not try taxing THEM? They are, after all,
the biggest business in town, and the
"people" who run the city are apparently
already deriving some kind of revenue from
them....

Meantime, count on it: this very day, more
annoyed legitimate citizens left town, more
illegals and other criminals moved in, and
the "old guard" made more dollars of the
selfsame ripoff violations from which they
have prospered for over a century.
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#5 Consumer Suggestion

Call Mesa police for help? Why?

AUTHOR: Leslie - (U.S.A.)

Mario Madrigal's parents called
the Mesa Police for help with a
suicidal child. They got murder
for their efforts.

I was told a while ago that Mesa
(the whole city government, I mean)
figures EVERYONE who isn't an LDS
member in good standing is a "snitch"
trying to distract the police from
various crimes of their own. I didn't
believe it.

I do now. I had a 200-year old
Turkish water pipe, bronze, inlaid
with ivory, which I inherited from
my grandfather, in use as a centerpiece
in my dining room when I called about
a break-in. This had not had anything
in it (and now I know that for sure)
illegal in probably a century or two,
but led to all sorts of weird questions
and investigations, and my friends are
pretty sure I am still under surveillance
by Mesa P.D. How strange! How nuts!

But they have their agenda. How
pitiful it has nothing to do with the
law or improving the community.
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#6 Consumer Suggestion

Call Mesa police for help? Why?

AUTHOR: Leslie - (U.S.A.)

Mario Madrigal's parents called
the Mesa Police for help with a
suicidal child. They got murder
for their efforts.

I was told a while ago that Mesa
(the whole city government, I mean)
figures EVERYONE who isn't an LDS
member in good standing is a "snitch"
trying to distract the police from
various crimes of their own. I didn't
believe it.

I do now. I had a 200-year old
Turkish water pipe, bronze, inlaid
with ivory, which I inherited from
my grandfather, in use as a centerpiece
in my dining room when I called about
a break-in. This had not had anything
in it (and now I know that for sure)
illegal in probably a century or two,
but led to all sorts of weird questions
and investigations, and my friends are
pretty sure I am still under surveillance
by Mesa P.D. How strange! How nuts!

But they have their agenda. How
pitiful it has nothing to do with the
law or improving the community.
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#7 Consumer Suggestion

Call Mesa police for help? Why?

AUTHOR: Leslie - (U.S.A.)

Mario Madrigal's parents called
the Mesa Police for help with a
suicidal child. They got murder
for their efforts.

I was told a while ago that Mesa
(the whole city government, I mean)
figures EVERYONE who isn't an LDS
member in good standing is a "snitch"
trying to distract the police from
various crimes of their own. I didn't
believe it.

I do now. I had a 200-year old
Turkish water pipe, bronze, inlaid
with ivory, which I inherited from
my grandfather, in use as a centerpiece
in my dining room when I called about
a break-in. This had not had anything
in it (and now I know that for sure)
illegal in probably a century or two,
but led to all sorts of weird questions
and investigations, and my friends are
pretty sure I am still under surveillance
by Mesa P.D. How strange! How nuts!

But they have their agenda. How
pitiful it has nothing to do with the
law or improving the community.
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#8 Consumer Suggestion

It is far worse than almost anyone knows!

AUTHOR: Damien - (U.S.A.)

I was a public defender in Mesa for several years.

For reasons involving privilege, I cannot be more specific. I still practice, but go NOWHERE near Mesa, Arizona.

As my young career evolved, I handled cases in both municipal and county courts. What I saw was so disgusting, it made me question my ever seeking a legal education.

I saw and heard things in police reports and in sworn testimony from police officers which were simply impossible, and was told not to challenge them or the judge would not "take it well". They were not just fiction and fantasy, they were absurd contrivances to "prove" someone guilty of
crimes which were, if not downright false, always grotesque exaggerations.

This is not to say that many of my clients were not guilty. This I am not supposed to judge. However, I can note here that most of them were not quite guilty of the charges for which they stood trial, or with which they were charged.

In some cases, defendants were charged with crimes which took place far, far from where they were, and the alibis were ironclad solid. And yet, I was told never to press too hard for dismissal. A few were simple mistaken identify, but I was horrified when my boss told me to just "shut up and proceed"... What amazed me was, the prosecutors generally knew they had the wrong person, and yet persisted.

Oddly, when I finally located another job, a better one, and decided to simply go ahead and win, I fell into serious disfavor. Bear in mind, I am discussing about a half-dozen significant felony cases which were obviously fraudulent. Then I, myself (I am a Baptist, I do not imbibe alcohol) started to be stopped by the police for all kinds of strange traffic citations, every one false.

Once, seeing the prosecutor's evidence and knowing my client was not only innocent, but could not possibly have done the "crime" of which he stood accused, and in the presence of the judge, I simply advised all parties present that the repercussion of proceeding would be a disaster for the city of Mesa. I was censured for this. Their zeal wound up in a huge lawsuit, still pending, I believe, in which they will ultimately have to pay many millions.

I supposedly "threatened the court"...

I did not, of course. What I said is on an ethical borderline, but by no means a threat.

Mesa does not observe the normal rules of law, ethics, and even ordinary decent human behavior. The city police and courts are predators, plain and simple, and need to be treated accordingly.

I enter this rebuttal on a friend's computer, in my new home town.
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#9 Consumer Suggestion

Suggestion: tear it up and start over!

AUTHOR: Patrick Michael - (U.S.A.)

What an understatement!

Mesa has lost so many institutions, and when
the made their "end run" play for an NFL stadium,
a quick league investigation determined there
was no way a stadium would ever be built in such
a dishonest, corrupt community. Yes, EVERYBODY
who looks knows how rotten Mesa is...

Third rate, chicken cops, Nazi judges with
only "Temple Recommend" credentials, all very
palsy with the ass-kissers on the City Council,
quite willing to murder kids like Mario Madrigal
(these maggots could easily have disarmed the kid, there were three of the cowards), their
dumbass art center, their wasting of your
tax dollars, the Mormon "make-work" police
department whose sniveling little weasel cowards
may shoot hell out of your kids, but NEVER
challenge a real crook--that's what Mesa is ABOUT.

Governments and institutions are judged
by what they accomplish, not by whether
charming folks work for them. That's b.s.

And Mesa city government, especially the
wimpy sissies of their "cop shop", is
a corrosive, criminal pack of rats, despite
the presence of maybe one or two decent guys.

The City Manager's office and the maggots
of the Judiciary are even more incompetent,
dishonest scumballs.

Why dignify these rats with
more respect than they deserve?

Why distinguish between one cockroach
and the next?

Every day I live here annoys me more,
they are raping the community and stealing
its money, for their own narrow, financial
purposes.
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#10 Consumer Suggestion

Hilarious! Sin Tax? Isn't that the Mesa thing with booze?

AUTHOR: Raoul - (U.S.A.)

I think it is funny that somebody says
all those reports come from the same guy
because of "syntax"... My pal, Nando,
went to journalism school, and speaks 4
languages, and has put reports on here for
a dozen or so people. Maybe his translation
is what this clown is talking about. Some of
their English is not so good.

What I DO know is, there are probably lots
of nice people on Mesa Police department.
But you don't judge organizations or movements
by "decent men"...you judge them and are
wary of them or positive toward them by
what they do.

The S.S., GESTAPO, OGPU, even the KGB
probably had lots of "nice guys" working
for them. So did Enron and IMclone. And
they were still scumbag organizations.

I have seen what Mesa P.D. and the
area prosecutors do, and was nearly their
victim more than once. What I can tell you
is, they do NOT do truth, justice, or
even "law enforcement". They are just
the local Nazi gang. I have been pushed
and so have my neighbors. We are not of
the correct color or faith, is the main
thing. And yes, some of them have
been polite. But they are still what
they are, and that is full-time
criminals, under the thumb of people
who rightly belong in prison.
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#11 Consumer Suggestion

Huh? ..Mesa city government is pretty much a

AUTHOR: Dennis - (U.S.A.)

I know two of the guys who responded above,
to the original report.

But the others? No. Thing is, injustice
in Mesa is real common. So is perjury,
obstruction of justice, cowardly conduct
on the part of the "cops" (such as these
little wimps are), corruption in the city
government and the county prosecutor's office...
There are SO MANY victims we run into each
other, by accident.

One guy, he was letting some folks use his
computer for lots of things.

What I know is, Mesa is a toilet.

Ever hear of the Brown and Markley cases?

These dips will prosecute a ham sandwich of
being OR not being salty, if it suits the
local agenda.

It's that simple.

Corruption is corruption. Crime is crime.

Mesa city government is pretty much a
crime, all by itself.

Syntax? What the hell is that?
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#12 Consumer Suggestion

This place is scary

AUTHOR: Charlie - (U.S.A.)

Seems like there are lots of good folks
in Mesa government. That's interesting,
but it doesn't change what goes on.

This place is scary. So much crime!

Don't know those other guys.

Some of the traffic stuff is weird. The
judges don't even pay attention to the
truth. And cops don't tell it.
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#13 Consumer Suggestion

This place is scary

AUTHOR: Charlie - (U.S.A.)

Seems like there are lots of good folks
in Mesa government. That's interesting,
but it doesn't change what goes on.

This place is scary. So much crime!

Don't know those other guys.

Some of the traffic stuff is weird. The
judges don't even pay attention to the
truth. And cops don't tell it.
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#14 Consumer Suggestion

This place is scary

AUTHOR: Charlie - (U.S.A.)

Seems like there are lots of good folks
in Mesa government. That's interesting,
but it doesn't change what goes on.

This place is scary. So much crime!

Don't know those other guys.

Some of the traffic stuff is weird. The
judges don't even pay attention to the
truth. And cops don't tell it.
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#15 Consumer Suggestion

This place is scary

AUTHOR: Charlie - (U.S.A.)

Seems like there are lots of good folks
in Mesa government. That's interesting,
but it doesn't change what goes on.

This place is scary. So much crime!

Don't know those other guys.

Some of the traffic stuff is weird. The
judges don't even pay attention to the
truth. And cops don't tell it.
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#16 Consumer Comment

Was all this written by the same person? worth reserving judgement on the police department as a whole

AUTHOR: Michael - (U.S.A.)

I've read just about all the comments here and the one thing that stands out is that they all sound the same. Not the part about having a grudge against the Mesa police department, but the language and syntax. It all sounds like it was written by the same person. If that's true then the Mesa P.D. might not be as bad as these threads make it out to be. For my part, I've only delt with them a couple of times in the seven years I've lived in Mesa and I have to say the ones I spoke with weren't that bad. They didn't do anything dishonest with me. I'm not saying Mesa doesn't have some really big problems, but I think it's worth reserving judgement on the police department as a whole, because I know there are at least two or three of them that seem to be honest, decent people.
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#17 Consumer Suggestion

They graduated from perjury to murder

AUTHOR: Mesa Protestant - (U.S.A.)

The credibility of anything to do with
law or law enforcement in these little fiefdoms
of madness is less than ZERO.

In my work, I have seen these idiot, incompetent cops say things on the stand,
under oath, which any moron knows COULD NOT
be true, and scum judges like this drip
Eppich accept their filthy lies, and
effectively suppress the truth.

It amazes me that liars and murderers
and criminally corrupt scum like Mesa
P.D. are even allowed to exist, let alone
in their ridiciulous numbers.

Don't call them for help. They are
very likely to kill you, if you are not
LDS.

This is not a "police department",
it is gangrenous infection. And so are
the asswipe judges. What a sick
mess!
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#18 Consumer Suggestion

They graduated from perjury to murder

AUTHOR: Mesa Protestant - (U.S.A.)

The credibility of anything to do with
law or law enforcement in these little fiefdoms
of madness is less than ZERO.

In my work, I have seen these idiot, incompetent cops say things on the stand,
under oath, which any moron knows COULD NOT
be true, and scum judges like this drip
Eppich accept their filthy lies, and
effectively suppress the truth.

It amazes me that liars and murderers
and criminally corrupt scum like Mesa
P.D. are even allowed to exist, let alone
in their ridiciulous numbers.

Don't call them for help. They are
very likely to kill you, if you are not
LDS.

This is not a "police department",
it is gangrenous infection. And so are
the asswipe judges. What a sick
mess!
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#19 Consumer Suggestion

They graduated from perjury to murder

AUTHOR: Mesa Protestant - (U.S.A.)

The credibility of anything to do with
law or law enforcement in these little fiefdoms
of madness is less than ZERO.

In my work, I have seen these idiot, incompetent cops say things on the stand,
under oath, which any moron knows COULD NOT
be true, and scum judges like this drip
Eppich accept their filthy lies, and
effectively suppress the truth.

It amazes me that liars and murderers
and criminally corrupt scum like Mesa
P.D. are even allowed to exist, let alone
in their ridiciulous numbers.

Don't call them for help. They are
very likely to kill you, if you are not
LDS.

This is not a "police department",
it is gangrenous infection. And so are
the asswipe judges. What a sick
mess!
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#20 Consumer Suggestion

They graduated from perjury to murder

AUTHOR: Mesa Protestant - (U.S.A.)

The credibility of anything to do with
law or law enforcement in these little fiefdoms
of madness is less than ZERO.

In my work, I have seen these idiot, incompetent cops say things on the stand,
under oath, which any moron knows COULD NOT
be true, and scum judges like this drip
Eppich accept their filthy lies, and
effectively suppress the truth.

It amazes me that liars and murderers
and criminally corrupt scum like Mesa
P.D. are even allowed to exist, let alone
in their ridiciulous numbers.

Don't call them for help. They are
very likely to kill you, if you are not
LDS.

This is not a "police department",
it is gangrenous infection. And so are
the asswipe judges. What a sick
mess!
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#21 Consumer Suggestion

Tell me about corruption and injustice... You already have.

AUTHOR: Clinton - (U.S.A.)

Mesa P.D. showed its mettle 8-25-2003
by putting 10 of 15 bullets into a 115-pound
Latino child, Mario Madrigal, who had been
drinking and who apparently had a tiny little knife.

Officers Richard Henry and Mark Beckett,
and Sergeant Orlando Dean shot the kid, who
was apparently already down on the ground.

The shooters have already been "cleared"
by the Mesa-friendly (and also LDS)
office of County Attorney Rick Romley.

Tell you what: even if this is not
criminal conduct in the very most technical
sense, it is reprehensible, and a major
sin, murder in the moral sense, even if not
in the legal context.

Sex scandals, several very questionable
shootings of citizens (Ever notice none of
these involve really hard core crooks?
I don't think Mesa P.D. ever even brushes
against THOSE folks, who are LEGION in Mesa),
a major lawsuit by its own officers for
discrimination against non-Mormons,
lots of financial shennanigans...why do
we citizens find it odd that even brisk
wrist-slapping does not seem to be in the
City of Mesa's lexicon? The reason is
simple. This town is being overrun by
professional drug dealers, "coyotes",
shady businessmen of all sorts, and
other, very brutal criminal types, and
we think the police here are pretty much
just another criminal gang. They sure
as HELL lack the courage to deal with
real trouble.
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#22 Consumer Comment

Why would anyone call Mesa P.D.? Insurance Purposes?

AUTHOR: Praetorius - (U.S.A.)

John, you should try professional comedy.,

You obviously can't do anything law enforcement or fact related.

I noted from your idiotic letter: "who will you call when your life is in danger...????" Where does this shit come from, anyway? Surely not you, John, I in that case would already have ONE criminal to deal with, why would I need TWO????

And knowing Mesa P.D. and their typical cowardly, overwhelming response, it wouldn't be just you, it would be an entire herd of sniveling, gutless fruitcakes.

If my life is in danger, John, I will call someone I can trust, and that is not you or the pisswads you work for/with. All you do is lie and make messes, like any other ill-trained dog.

I have, in my time here in Mesa, called you jerkfaced incompetents only when required by insurance stuff. And even then, your moronic "response" and general bumbling made me wish I had just taken the loss and moved on.

Try going to work for someone with some ethics, John... ETHICS.... Ever hear that word??? Mesa P.D. hasn't, that I know.

No, I have never been arrested, although your department has asked me some incredibly stupid questions about a kidnapping and some other really bizarre crap I had nothing to do with and knew nothing about. You pieces of smegma just take of a lot of unnecessary time, for an agenda which has nothing to do with the citizens.

Tell me, you stupid son of a bitch, can you tell me of even ONCE your department solved ANYTHING with actual police work? I never even HEARD of that happening...snitches, blind, dumb luck, etc., etc., but your whole department, cumulatively, lacks the intelligence of a potato. (((REDACTED FOUL LANGUAGE))) coward!!!
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#23 Consumer Suggestion

It is a meeting of the minds--lily-livered chickens and MormoNazis...

AUTHOR: Remus II - (U.S.A.)

No wonder we don't have
a fuctioning Police Department!

"John" evades the actual
flow of the conversation with
straw man crap like "usually"
and "generally", without ever
even discussing the main
points and problems.

John, you need to take a
broader, wiser view. For example,
you and most of your colleagues
are actually nothing more than
lilly-livered chickenshit scum.
And that, John, is a simple fact.
That and lying bastards, most of
whom really DO belong in prison.
Perjury, John, perjury, you lying,
gutless worm...ever HEARD of it?

Just myself, I know seven of
your scum-sucking brother officers
who should be doing hard time, just
on that one charge. Add bribery
and other forms of corruption and
it is damned near all of them.

John, you are a liar, and probably
a thief, and DEFINITELY a worthless
coward. Forget law enforcement. Your
experience MIGHT qualify you as a pimp,
men's room attendant in a gay bar,
or something like that...but you ARE
NOT any kind of real cop.

Your department will sooner or later
be subjected to vigorous outside examination.
The day that is announced, you and
about 80-90% of the pieces of shit you
work with better pack your bags and
leave the United States completely.
We KNOW where the bodies are buried,
John, and we have heard your lies and
cover stories before. Kiss your
cowardly ass goodbye, and tell your
LDS brethren their time is coming soon,
and I DO NOT mean in the religious
sense.

Oh, maybe I should mention, ratbastard,
I entered this on a friend's computer,
2000+ miles away. But I am coming
home, gutless wonder, soon.
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#24 UPDATE Employee

Funny. Hilarious. Stupid, actually.

AUTHOR: Peter - (U.S.A.)

John, you and I have the same employer. But unlike you, I haven't adopted the "party line", and I know who and what I am and what purpose I serve.

John, let's face it: the main thing Mesa would enjoy if there were more of us is higher CRIME. We are in the business of avoiding trouble and kissing asses. Sure, we hassle people, mainly decent, hard-working stiff we can exploit for money. The job is bullshit, and you know it.

Mesa already has more cops than it needs, and you are one it NEVER needed. I'll be moving on in a few weeks, taking a better position for a little less money but much easier on my conscience.

If you see someone wearing the uniform and laughing at his sergeant or supervisor, that will be me. This is a clown act and a whore business, and I am not cut out for either, and neither is anyone decent.

Next time you look in the mirror, John, you lying bastard, try to tell yourself the truth: WE ARE NOT THE SOLUTION, WE ARE THE PROBLEM.
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#25 Consumer Suggestion

Interesting guy, "John"...notice he doesn't actually dispute anything?

AUTHOR: Romulus - (U.S.A.)

Notice that John, the Mesa cop, doesn't answer a single contention in the original report?

He instead accuses the guy who wrote it of being anti-police (which is ridiculous, Mesa HAS no real police, in the sense most people mean it) and then whines and snivels about what a tough job it is. In Mesa, cops risk NOTHING. They don't get in physical confrontrations, they just SHOOT, immediately and to the end of their 15-17 round magazines. And when one of them commits a crime, which is MANY times each day, the others all form a tight line to cover his ass.

Don't fall for all the psuedo-patriotic bullshit. Mesa cops are NOT brave, have NOTHING to do with law enforcement, are as anti-American and as UN-AMERICAN as you can get without actually being on Osama Bin Laden's personal staff. They are criminal cowards, overpaid, with a ratbastard crook as a chief, worse than the last one. Fuck you, John, right in your Mormon licking ass.
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#26 Consumer Suggestion

John, ignorance is obviously almos ALL of your problem...that and corruption.

AUTHOR: J.P. - (U.S.A.)

John, I was reading through these reports on Mesa, most of which are pretty understated, going all the way down on the rebuttals, and thinking how my own experience in law enforcement and what I see here is so very different, and then I saw the moronic crap you contributed.

John, if you live in Mesa and especially if you work for this local collection of bozos, you don't know a damned thing about LAW ENFORCEMENT.
Favoritism, lying, being a corrupt piece of dung, these things you may know; actual police work would be a totally baffling conundrum.

I worked on a real city Police Department for thirty years. Worked for a living, in real situations, not sitting on my fat, disgusting, useless Mormon ass, driving around, protecting a tiny minority of citizens and victimizing the rest. You and the pieces of shit for whom you work are an INSULT to the police professions.

I know, I live here. I see more your idiot-ass department could and should be doing and is too gutless to try than I would have ever imagined possible. Try meth, crack cocaine, grass, stolen cars, etc., etc., etc. Then come back and tell me about police work, you silly bastard ignorant fuck.
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#27 Consumer Suggestion

Notice how they evade the key questions and issues?

AUTHOR: Timothy - (U.S.A.)

Notice how John, the supposed Mesa cop, avoids and evades all the key issues? Truth is, the Mesa Police Department simply serves no purpose, except collecting money.

I throw a couple of stones in front of my house
(I'd be arrested for that!) one of them will hit a drug dealer or meth factory (and hey, John,
you evasive liar, why don't THEY ever get arrested?????), and chances are pretty good,
both will.

I am not Mormon, but I do have kids.

You are not protecting me or anybody else.
Well, maybe yourself and your "brother
officers"...

Giving you and idiots like you the power
to arrest anybody is like giving Charlie
Manson a nuclear device...

Mesa needs cops, all right. Since we seem
to have very few worth a damn, none that I
have seen, ain't it time to START OVER????
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#28 Consumer Suggestion

John is a GREAT comedy writer. I wonder if he knows that.

AUTHOR: Trevor B. - (U.S.A.)

This John, the Mesa cop, is amazing. I gotta wonder, has he ever BEEN to Mesa???? Sure as hell doesn't sound like it to me.

Mesa is easy to understand. They don't do property taxes. So all the city fees, traffic fines, etc., etc., are very high. The police department (and note: I have no respect for these people, so I do not capitalize their fake name)
has to show a profit, justify their bogus $40,000 starting salaries (yes, they actually got a raises, from six or seven times what they are worth, to eight or ten), and their ridiculously inflated (and grossly cowardly) staff of some 1300 idiots, they rape everybody they can by lying, and in the end, stealing.

John, your department is essentially a setup of racketeers and terrorists. "Hating cops" has nothing to do with loathing Mesa P.D. You people are more in the category of loan sharks or
some kind of paid perjurer. I have never heard the truth cross the lips of one of you phony b.s. peddlers, especially not in court.

We citizens of Mesa need a Police Department, not the collection of criminals we have.

Get the point, John??? I doubt it!!!
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#29 Consumer Suggestion

What? Where? Sure as hell, not Mesa...

AUTHOR: William Edmund - (U.S.A.)

Hates cops? John, what the HELL does that have to do with YOU and MESA? Mesa has no actual cops, except maybe those from other areas who pass through. Your actual function is more like a combination bill collector-billboard. Unlike you lazy, gutless cowards, I get my butt out of my car once in a while, and look around. I don't see anything like law enforcement in Mesa at all, which is why I departed...well, that and your silly-assed cousins in "City Administration"...

You spineless, sniveling "boys in blue"
don't have a CLUE what is going on in Mesa, and
in four years there, I never saw even a little
sign you were interested. I intervened in a fight one night where one of your gutless colleagues was getting the hell kicked out of him by a biker; and trust me, if I ever go to Mesa AGAIN--which, if I can avoid it, I NEVER will--I have no intention of doing anything "public-spirited" to help you SCUM again.

I am not interested in your lies, coverups, excuses, b.s., cover stories, hogwash, or anything else you do. If I had to rely on you fluffy little daisies to save my butt, I would be dead long ago. You don't do ANYTHING about public protection or law enforcement, you simply float around like the puffs of fluff you are, trying to cover the asses of the turdbags you work for. That may have some public relations value, but as cops, I would rather piss on a fire hydrant.

Quit accusing people way better than you of being anti "law enforcement", scumbag, and assess what you actually DO. And be DEEPLY ASHAMED. This town you work in and for is going RIGHT DOWN THE TUBES, and the reason is: Lack of meaningful, real law enforcement, which is to say YOU and your idiot "brother officers".

Of course, everyone must take into account
twenty-five or so years' criminal activity by
Charles Luster, who got this rot started. But
you? There are algae and fungus I respect more.

Mesa P.D. and law enforcement are entirely
unrelated (and basically, opposite) subjects.

Clear enough????
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#30 Consumer Suggestion

I get so tired of hearing these thieving scumbuckets make third-rate excuses... MESA P.D. LIES FOR A LIVING!!!!

AUTHOR: James - (U.S.A.)

Mesa P.D. may have a couple of decent officers, maybe... Trouble is, their leadership is FILTH, and their actual task is RAISING MONEY. You and your accomplices are nothing more (but MAY be less) than criminal perpetrators, liars, thieves, and frauds. I spit in your filthy, corrupt face, you low-life scumbag!!

Mesa P.D. is rotten to the core!!! Why the
feds haven't stepped in and incarcerated some of the rats who comprise your bogus "thin blue line", I cannot imagine. Your dips should be placed under RUCO and RICO investigative restrictions, and most of the scum on your department permanently incarcerated, without possibility of pension OR parole.

Don't give my your lying "law enforcement" b.s., you corrupt filth!! I have seen your masquerade, and I have seen you murder and lie and commit fraud, every single day. I hate crooks, and I have seen them before; that is your ACTUAL job description. Everything else you say, you lying rat, is a coverup. Bogus fines, fake stops, fraudulent reports, persecution of those you figure you can bleed white, the Bailey's Brake and Maaco things, the Markley and Brown cases, two attempted fraudulent prosecutions against me ALONE... Get REAL, you crooked piece of dung, do you really think ANYONE is stupid enough to buy your lying crap??? Are YOU dumb enough to believe it????

There is no doubt, the proof is prima facie...Mesa P.D. and its "executive government" is a criminal conspiracy, and MUST be treated accordingly.
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#31 Consumer Suggestion

Kind of amusing to watch these guilty rats try to make excuses, isn't it?

AUTHOR: J.L. - (U.S.A.)

Are these "brave, tough" "policeman" (they are really none of the three) actually SERIOUSLY expecting someone who has seen their silly-assed antics will treat them with any respect at all?

Sure, they have guns and badges. But they are corrupt, criminal cowards and incompetents.

Example: Officer Lynn Cantrell, described in SEVERAL other reports and who has apparently never let the truth escape her demented lips in her life, anonymously enters a rebuttal and suggests that you, the citizens, "accept responsibility or shut up!" And this sniveling worm above, more of the same crap.

Hey, fake cops of Mesa, you inbred dirtbags...How about you??? Take some responsibility for your repeated and chronic criminality. So far, your spineless conduct and careful avoidance of danger define what you are: LILLY-LIVERED CHICKENSHIT WEASELS OF THE LOWEST ORDER.

Try answering some of the criminal charges. Try taking your badges off and interacting with citizens without your guns, you scumbags.

Useless dweebs!!!!
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#32 Consumer Suggestion

FACTS hard and cold and unmitigated

AUTHOR: Lucas - (U.S.A.)

Facts:

(1. I work door-to-door sales as part of my living. I see, hear, and smell drug operations in Mesa every time I work there, LOTS OF THEM. I used to live in Mesa and report these. Invariably, I saw the same places work for years and years, with no interference from the local idiots who call themselves a "police department".

(2. I have seen Mesa Police officers commit acts of perjury and criminal falsification, and seen the "reports" they write, all targeted to getting far more out of an incident than the "bust" was worth, save a couple where prominent LDS individuals or family were involved, and then every fiction goes the other way.

(3. For attempting to report ACTUAL crimes, I have myself been threatened with charges from "failing to obey a lawful order" to "resisting arrest" and even "disorderly conduct"...

(4. For offering to be a defense witness at the "scene" of a bogus "crime" in Mesa, I was directly threatened by five armed officers.

(5. I have never seen a Mesa police officer
risk even perspiration on his brow on a citizen's behalf, EVER... I HAVE heard them fire on unarmed civilians they were unwilling to chase.

The conclusions drawn are easy. And ALL of the above could easily be proven in court, if a willing venue could be found.

Anyone who confuses these incompetent, corrupt cowards with the "Heroes of 9-11" lives in a dream world. In NO sense of the word are these clowns involved in real law enforcement. Nor is anyone in Mesa city government, which is a cesspool of the worst sort of Byzantine criminality.

Mesa is a sickening, disgusting place. And "JOHN" and those like him are the reason.
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#33 Consumer Suggestion

I have been to Mesa. I will never go there again.

AUTHOR: Walter - (U.S.A.)

By error, and based upon a friend's recommendation, I vacationed in Mesa in 1998. I will never come there again, and have advised everyone I know to do the same.

The cops here are criminal predators. Dishonest to a level I have never before seen, in my 72 years.

The details are irrelevant, and there
are too many for this forum. It boils down
to, if I had the time and the connections,
I could put at least three of these
scum in jail for perjury and filing false
police reports. It amounted to nothing
in the end, but this kind of aggressive
lying is something that puts a police
department into the seriously criminal
area.

They alone are costing that sorry city
millions of dollars a year, over and above
their bloated salaries, which I understand
now start at close to $40,000 a year.

What do the ads in the papers say?

"Wanted, weasely, lying scumbag
flim-flam artists. Apply at
Mesa Police Department." That is
surely what they are getting.
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EDitor's Response to the Above Comments

AUTHOR: - ()

Before you paint the situation with a broad brush, please remember that only some of the generalization is true. Our in-depth investigation in this situation, what you have not perceived is that the oppression to which you refer is not from some conspiracy but from the preponderance of similar associations in this community.



You should know that many Mormons who do not share the same political and social affiliations of the majority are often treated poorly. Therefore, there must be some other reason, other than religious affiliation for the oppression. We hope to press them for answers.



At one time, I was thinking the same way you did. My anger was misplaced, and I misjudged so many. What a mistake that was. There is a definite problem, but not with all of them. You can never say all about anything.



Very Sincerely,



ED Magedson

EDitor@ripoffreport.com
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#35 Consumer Suggestion

Welcome to Mesa. Grab your wallet, if you are not MORMON...

AUTHOR: Jim - ()

Usual crap, different day.



You expected JUSTICE from these filthy, scum-sucking pigs??? DUH!!!



Soon, these useless filth will kill YOU!!!

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#36 Consumer Comment

Mesa could try fairness or honesty. For this town, it would be a revolutionary approach.

AUTHOR: Adam - ()

I have seen way too much of judicial systems and criminal "justice". I am an attorney, and worked for the public defender's office for some time. I can make some general comments on the setup here, and note the shrinkage of this community's tax base, from which I, myself, shall soon withdraw, because this town is no longer to my personal liking.



The courts, the judges, the police, even the attorneys here make no effort to be fair or equitable.



I have seen perjury from police officers here hundreds of times, not ONCE even pointed out when it was so painfully obvious everyone knew it. In one particularly preposterous case, a Mesa officer claimed a 1973 Ford van with a seriously damaged six-cylinder engine managed to attain the speed of fifty miles an hour in less than twenty feet (this is impossible). Another officer claimed a man was "driving" his 1968 Chevrolet (it had no engine and no rear wheels) on the street when it had been up on blocks, in his yard, for almost a year during restoration. In criminal matters, the fantasies are often even more absurb and ridiculous. Judges and, of course, and the prosecutors who encourage and nurture this dribble not only do NOTHING, this sort of criminal misconduct is rewarded.



Let me contrast that with an experience in undergraduate days, back in the MidWest, in the late 1960's. While I was on summer military duty, a former lady friend was found wandering a rural county highway, naked and bruised, and very, very drunk. She informed the deputy that I had "gotten her drunk, raped, and beaten her". Trouble is--and my commanders reported this to the local authorities when they found out I had been arrested--I had not been within 1000 miles of that state for 26 days before the incident, nor for 19 days after, and there was full documentation on that prosecutor's desk. Apparently, based on her "testimony", they had gone to arrest me at my home, my new girlfriend's apartment, various bars and restaurants I used to frequent, etc., etc., and finally, over a month after the episode, they found me. I was actually incarcerated briefly. Records and testimony from the code unit in which I had worked were almost instantly wired and mailed to the court and the prosecutor and all other responsible parties.



The prosecutor persisted. Because I had been on duty at the time of the "crime", I was provided with top-drawer military counsel, and several high-ranking officers were flown in to testify.



It went ALL THE WAY to trial, but by ten minutes into the "defense", a general began his testimony with the words: "This is a b.s., and the prosecutor has known that since the morning after my code officer was arrrested." And from there on, it was a brief proceeding, in which charges were dismissed.



The judge called the prosecutor and the deputy to the bench. "Deputy, leave $100 for contempt of court on your way out, Prosecutor, you leave $500. Either of you sons of bitches brings anything like this into my courtroom again, you will do some SERIOUS JAIL TIME. I want personal, written apologies to this defendant in his hands, TODAY, or I triple the fines. You people are goddamned lucky I don't have the time to try your miserable asses for perjury and subornation, or I'd find a way to make this into some very serious felonies. Now, get the hell out of here!!!"



There followed a sincere effort at making some amends, and a recommendation that the prosecutor and the bogus witness/victim be sued immediately.



The same balderdash happens in Mesa, many times each day, and the system just keeps pumping. Judge Roy Bean might have something in common with this kind of mass-produced, fake justice, but police and prosecutors and probation officers and bribed witnesses/snitches walk out of courtrooms, squeaky clean, under circumstances where even the old Courts of the Inquisitions would have ravaged them for their lies.



The judges here may seem like "tough guys" to somebody, but what they are is rubber stamps to a level of corruption that is revolting to anyone with a kernel of fairness.
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#37 Consumer Suggestion

John, seems to me the ignorance is YOURS....

AUTHOR: Juan - ()

Sorry, John... Not only is this guy not

"ignorant", he has put very clear focus on the

real problems here.



You guys have nothing to do with catching

crooks. You are in a business, just like the

drug dealers in my neighborhood you go so far

out of your way to AVOID. Trouble is, you

PRETEND to be cops.



I saw more Mesa cops breaking the law than

anybody else.



Goofoffs, bozos, and idiots. And there are

WAY too many of you.



Reading what you said, though, makes me

even more afraid. Now I know for sure

there is no law in Mesa.



One quick walk through my complex, most any

night, you smell the crack and meth cooking.

But I haven't seen a Mesa cop on foot in

twelve years. And they never come here.



Yet, last time I was stopped, seven cars--I

think it fourteen flatfoots--showed up.

Reason for the stop: some stupid scumbag like

YOU wanted to confiscate my rifle, which I

had all chained up in a vertical rack in the

back of my truck. I didn't even have the key

at that moment, and that useless piece of

filth and his idiot faggot buddies wanted to

tear my truck apart. I even had the receipt

for the thing in my file box! And they said

"it might be stolen"..."maybe it was used in

a crime".... I have NO valid arrests, NO

criminal record, and yet I have been stopped

in your filthy little Nazi/Mormon scumbag town,

by your demented dip colleagues around fifteen

times.



Figure it out, stupid! Citizens are getting

real bored and tired and pissed off with your

silly-assed fishing expeditions and your

avoidance of danger.



Coward!
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#38 Consumer Suggestion

Same Old Same Old...meanwhile, back at the Temple....

AUTHOR: Rudolf - ()

Anyone notice Motorola is about the join the legions of major employers leaving Mesa??



Gas stations closing like crazy?



Abandoned strip malls everywhere?



General decay, absentee (mostly Mormon) landlords?



When the rats are in the ship's forecastle,

it is INDUSTRY that abandons the ship.



That tell you anything, John, and that

deviant scum, Hutchinson, you work for??



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#39 Consumer Suggestion

John.. get a life.. you are obviously under the influence of demented scum you work for.

AUTHOR: Mike - ()

John needs to find a job with humans.



The dorks he works with have obviously

taught him NOTHING.
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#40 Consumer Suggestion

The facts are the facts. The other stuff--the lies, the coverups, the graft, the corruption--is Mesa's childish excuses.

AUTHOR: Trevor - ()

Fascinating! John, the Mesa Officer, perceived

in a nutshell, he thought, that the protagonist

here "thought" he had been arrested in error...

Or "called the police and wasn't satisfied..."



Let's be direct: a lot of what Mesa P.D. does is just plain illegal FRAUD. And the rest is mainly some kind of nutzo public relations stuff.



Killed kids "because they were AFRAID"...???

C'mon! I am AFRAID all the time. And I can't

get any freedom at all, let alone to murder

somebody.



Most of the immigration to this town--ALL THE PERMANENT IMMIGRATION, ONCE THE OUTFLOW IS ACCOUNTED FOR--is illegal aliens.



Nobody wants to bring his family or business to a sewer of corruption.



Face facts, John, people are leaving this town

because of what the palsy-walsy boys in City Hall have and have not done. They hamstring world class businesses not owned by Mormons with lots of extra inspections, licenses, taxes, and hassles, meantime keeping the GOBN happy.



The rest of us get screwed.
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#41 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Wasted time, wasted effort....just a waste! When the captain is nuts, the ship can't sail straight.

AUTHOR: former Mesa officer - ()

The main part of this is so correct, it is sickening!



On duty, I was never so vain and stupid

as to consider myself part of some "thin blue

line", and I never once laid my life on the

line for anyone. Indeed, we were cautioned

to use overwhelming force LONG before that came

necessary.



I worked for Mesa P.D. Fortunately, I got a

real job and moved on. I hope to forget

my association with this organization entirely.



I'm not sure what the lion's share of this

department would list as a job description,

but "law enforcement" has very little to do with

the work.
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#42 Consumer Suggestion

It will get much worse, unless something is done IMMEDIATELY....

AUTHOR: Bill - ()

I hope nobody thinks this is atypical.



It isn't.



These towns are dying, financially, because

of the corruption and narrow view of the

crooks who run the places.



No decent company wants to headquarter here.



But it will get worse. These places are

governed by lowlife creeps in the so-called

civil service who know nothing save "where

the bodies are buried" and who is LDS and

who is not. And when the feds start to

seriously look into these corrupt little

venues, these scum will go berzerk.



It will get worse before it gets better.
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#43 Consumer Suggestion

Isn't it SICK that they get away with this TRASH?

AUTHOR: Clarence - ()

It shatters people's faith in everything when

this sort of crime becomes so obvious and common

that everyone knows about it, but that is where

Mesa has been for years.



Their police department is so sick and demented, I have to take pause to consider just what purpose it serves, and frankly, having seen so much when I lived there, I cannot answer the question, or even come close.



They cover their errors with lies, and weave

such a tangled web. Sex scandals, kickbacks, contracts let to the "Mormon Mafia", a constant propaganda campaign to increase their already overblown staff, illegal drugs every few feet, for sale right out in the open, "Coyote" operations right in front of everyone's noses, apparently with the blessing of the local administration, perhaps with their sponsorship, no rental codes at all, murder a few people and cover that with lies, totally fraudulent cases, erroneous prosecutions when they knew better...it is a litany of corruption and incompetence.



This is just one small example. I left, and

the company I used to work for got no cooperation from the locals (they weren't Mormon), and re-located. Want another 100 examples, or more?

I have them. Maybe I will enter them, one at a time.
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#44 Consumer Suggestion

Cover lies with lies, and delude yourself, you parasitic idiot.

AUTHOR: Randy - ()

The NFL was well-advised to do everything it could by way of consultation to avoid locating a major stadium in this open-air lunatic asylum. It would be nice if this town HAD some legitimate law enforcement: it doesn't.



It would be nice if something useful or productive came from the police department,the city manager, or any of the other entrenched, useless parasitic scum for which this city pays premium prices: it doesn't.



I think it's very nice these criminal lowlifes delude themselves with games and keep telling us about "thin blue lines" and other moronic lies they tell themselves. Too bad they can't avoid harassing and once-in-a-while killing decent people.



Mesa P.D. needs to be enlarged? What b.s.! We need a whole new organization!! One which can do something about crime! And don't, John, you saprophytic idiot, try the song and dance about how dangerous your work, and how everybody who says things like that has a "chip on his shoulder" and hates law enforcement.



You are absolutely nothing to do with law enforcement, same as most of the putrid sculchbags with whom you work. I was doing real law enforcement twenty years ago, and it is a vocation totally unrelated to what you and your scalawag colleagues do. You are 1000+ examples of dead weight to the taxpayers. Read the reports about internal corruption in your department, you silly drip, and look around; this is the most crime-infested community I have ever even seen, including the South Bronx, and the reason it is comes down to you cowards are afraid to even act against anything that doesn't come with the express approval of the Mormons who own you.



John, get a REAL job. But don't try law enforcement. Your current employment history reveals that you could not possibly adapt to that field. You are employed by professional conspirators and criminals.
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#45 Consumer Suggestion

John is either a fool, deceiving himself, or a typical

AUTHOR: Al - ()

Oh, John, how silly thou art! Do you REALLY think you are OUR police??? No! You are Hutchinson's toadie, and that is all you are, even if you PRETEND to be in law enforcement.



When I managed properties in your crummy towns, it was morons like you who caused more problems than the gangs, vandals, and "tough guys" who nearly burned down the building I was stuck in. It wasn't, you see, Mormon-owned, and many of the crooks were LDS...some of them in good standing.



The real b.s. here is that you may actually

think you are doing something constructive or

helping decent citizens. You aren't. You

just cost us money, waste time, and are a

nuisance to be avoided. As cops, Mesa P.D.

wouldn't make a half-decent collection of

flower pots.



The criminal rats for whom you work mean

that, even with the noblest of intentions,

all you can ever be is a rubber stamp

for idiots and con men.



Get real, John! This happens all the time,

and you are the cause. The whole East

Valley is in the toilet, because of the

morons for whom you are ACTUALLY working.



Reform is what matters. Problem: Mesa

P.D. is so far beyond normal, it probably

cannot even be salvaged.



Everybody knows who you are and what you

REALLY do. Forget your goofy fantasies about

crooks and guns and saving lives. You are

a cog, in the most corrupt machine in

modern history. You are an embarrassment,

and your department is not even a worthwhile

joke.
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#46 Consumer Comment

If you're not faithful with few things . . .

AUTHOR: The Saint - ()

This is "aimed" at John, the Mesa Cop.



So that you can't accuse me of having a grudge

because I've been in trouble,

I've never been arrested, and do my best to

be a law abiding citizen. (As well as anyone can

with a million contradictory laws.) I don't even

speed.



I, personally, have had the Mesa Police interfere

with an assault charge I brought against a Mormon man (search here for Mesa, AZ report titled "Wanted" for the story).



I, personally, have seen the Mesa PD falsely arrest a man for trespass (the DR even says the man was in right and they tried to cancel the charge).



I, personally, have seen the Mesa PD falsely arrest a man twice for that every popular,one size fits all, you screw with us and this is what we do to you, disorderly conduct. (I was there - have video - one charge dropped, one charge pending, and now political.)



(The story for these should be posted on the RipOff Report soon.)



Sure, these are all "small" things (unless they

happen to you) - but if you all can't be trusted

with the small things, why should anyone trust you

with the big things? (I think that's in the Bible

somewhere - if that part has been translated correctly.)
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#47 Consumer Suggestion

John from Gilbert is a typical lying scumbag mesa official

AUTHOR: George - ()

What trash! I lived in Mesa for two years, quit my assignment, transferred, and got out because I had to spend too much time explaining to the LOCAL IDIOT POLICE why I carried a concealed weapon, loaded, and was in law enforcement. I have no time for rotten, filthy deviant liars like these overpaid scumbags.



You, John, are an ignorant intolerant idiot, typical of the bags of rot you work with. How dare a gutless worm who works for that comedy act you call a police department suggest that a citizen has no right to criticize blatant criminal activity by that cadre of felons you call your colleagues? You are no colleague of mine!



You may belong in law enforcement in some countries. Try Peru or Bulgaria, you stupid facist. I am ashamed that your department even exists, and that lying pieces of dung like your "chief" and your "city manager" present

you morons as members of the law enforcement community. You aren't. You aren't even competent enough or bright enough to be a good joke.



Mikelle Biggs, my ass, you jerks couldn't catch a cold, which is why, except for crack houses and sand fleas, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ever flourishes in that filthy town of yours.
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#48 Consumer Suggestion

endless lies solve nothing, sweeping reform in mesa MIGHT.... Mesa P.D. and the lunatics who surround them

AUTHOR: roy - ()

John's response to the facts is interesting, and very typical of the moronic facist attitudes held by Mesa P.D. and the lunatics who surround them. He says immediately that nobody who has not worke for Mesa P.D. has any "right" to challenge anything these filthy scumwads do... What trash!!!! I have been stopped myself by Mesa P.D. over 20 times, arrested three times, all bogus as the typical $9.00 bill, and equally queer.



One might normally presume, after endless scandals involving sex and money, the filth Whalen who stole undercover funds, many cases of false, capricious, and criminal arrests, countless episodes of false reports and perjury, drug arrests based on lies, obvious quota incentives, and Mormon corruption top to bottom, Mesa P.D. would at least admit it has problems.



But they won't. They can't. 1300 employees, a budget five times what it needs to be, up to its scurvy neck in every kind of criminal conduct, this is an agency whose lawbreaking would embarrass the Mafia.



The current head Mormon is apparently retiring in November, and will--WE ALL KNOW THIS--be replaced by another CAREER CRIMINAL with close ties to the ringleader, Hutchinson.



The citizens of this fifth-rate, third world collection of full-time payola vendors and recipients are fully aware how this "Police Department" works and doesn't work. Citizens who have been harassed and lied to and about endlessly know precisely how this CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY works. Better, apparently, than "John", who is completely unaware that most citizens know they receive no protection at all from this "law enforcement agency", which seems to function SOLELY as a revenue-raising and public relations/advertising Gestapo for the tight ring of monsters who administer the "MOST DISHONEST COMMUNITY IN THE WORLD", the "CITY OF BROAD STREETS AND NARROW MINDS"...



I see criminal activity every day about which nothing is done. The last time I had one of the many bogus traffic stops from which I have suffered, both the officer and I were almost killed by someone in a white Cadillac who both ran a red light and shifted lanes in an intersection. It was a brand new car. My "ticket" did not proceed, it was yet another totally fake attempt at some DUI money. But the liar who stopped me and falsified the probable cause knew who was driving, as did the other three cars visible to me, and did not even pursue. Guess what: that's what passes for "law enforcement" in Mesa. And that is just one of many similar examples.



Most Mesa city services are pretty good. But this is a "city"--though still run like a small Mormon town somewhere in central Utah--which is simultaneously dying and growing as it croaks. Reason: nobody sane wants to live in a city run by full-time, professional crooks, and the contrast between the "police" and everyone else is stark and severe.



The audacity of saying someone who has been victimized by criminals has no right to question them unless he has actually been part of that seedy but slick vulgarity is ridiculous.



The reason, incidentally, I am stopped so frequently is that I frequent bars. However, I do not drink. I make a very high income. I have diabetes, so I CANNOT drink, but my insulin and other medications have been constued many times into things they were not, and clearly were not, by officers who treated me like some sort of career lawbreaker. My income is well into six digits, but the old truck I drive in traffic seems to attract Mesa P.D. I have never been stopped in my Lincoln or my new Toyota truck, which I seldom drive in heavy traffic. Some of these "stops" have eaten up five hours of my time. Several were by the very same officers.



I waited to write this until I was ready to leave Mesa, FOREVER. I pay my taxes. I work 60 hours a week. I HAVE WORKED IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, at the Federal level. But I have never worked for the Mesa "police"... I would never associate with lowlife criminals of that order. They are the main reason I and many others and many businesses are leaving this community. Or at least, they are the primary symptom of the disease that is destroying the heart of this community.



My advice to my snowbird friends back in Ohio and Indiana is simple: don't even come to Mesa. The cops will find a way to steal everything you own, or at least to eat up your time and annoy you to the point of total frustration.



I only hope I will not be stopped and detained by these birdbrains before I get out of this stinking asylum. Take your town and shove it, or reform it! And obviously, no one in Mesa P.D. can even acknowledge THAT word exists.
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It's really very simple. Mesa PD lies for

a living. No trim, no "hate" position. And the

local "justice" system not only does nothing about it, they reinforce this CRIMINAL CONDUCT.



I have seen nothing in this community to refute even a small part of that. This is fraud. It is falsifying police reports. It is perjury. No one is more pro-law enforcement than I am. But confusing Mesa P.D. with anything like legitimate law enforcement is a stupid and empty error.



Most of their minions belong behind bars, forever. Yes, I have been arrested, fraudulently, in this rathole, and have contacted Federal DOJ about it, as well as ACLU and other responsible agencies. I would no more discuss this with the WHITEWASH and RUBBER STAMP troops of Mesa P.D. than I would parlay with a mad dog because of the last one who bit me. "John" has nothing to say at all about the serious charges lodged, and verifies nothing except the criminal conduct of the people for whom he works.



Mesa needs reform IMMEDIATELY, and it starts with putting 60-75% of the police, all of the local judges, and especially the City Manager and Police Chief on the streets, or more appropriately, in prison where they belong.



This town is a humiliating comment on the dysfunctional nature of an inbred, nepotistic power structure that was obsolete a century ago. This community needs more law enforcement, but not more of the same old tired criminals it has had to suffer for 150 years.



These cops aren't worth $5,000 a year; better to spend that same money on keeping the majority of them in the institutions where they belong, instead of out harassing actual citizens. Try hitting some of the sixty or so crack houses within walking distance of my home, instead of "making bones" by ripping off decent people.



I know, that would take courage, something Mesa P.D. lacks at every level... Why, some of those people are armed!! Quit evading reality. This town will be subjected to new light if the N.F.L. is actually stupid enough to house a franchise here. Maybe then there will be enough exposure to shake the lice out this city's beard, but I see Hutchinson and the collection of lackies who surround him resisting even minor reforms every step of the way.
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#50 UPDATE Employee

Jim, look and the whole picture and not just the narrow minded view of your letter and insight.

AUTHOR: John - ()

Jim,



Reading your opinion makes me laugh in a way. Now, I have no insight on the business area of your letter since I don't own a business. I agree to a point there is a LDS "Problem" in our city. However, the majority of the LDS community are good people. I am not a member myself. The part that makes me laugh is your comments on the police department.



In my experience as a police officer, most people that make the comments you made in your letter have been arrested for a crime, or have had a family member arrested. Most of the time, the person arrested (or the family of the one arrested) feel they did nothing wrong and it is the police that have violated their rights. Or maybe you were a victim of a crime and the cops did "nothing" about it. Maybe if we had more cops, we could catch more criminals. But we are waiting for the new academy class to get out of jail!



Jim, ignorance seems to be a major problem of yours. Just like I cannot comment on the business part of your letter because I do not own a business,(do you?) then you have no right commenting on what goes on in the police department if you do not work here, or know anything about law enforcement which it appears you do not.



As in any profession, there are a few very bad employees. However, the majority are good officers and would be there to help you out. And yes Jim, even if you are not LDS.



Maybe you should go to a citizens police academy so you can understand what goes on out on the streets every night..to see what we see. Like the drowing child I went on a few months ago...nothing like see a family almost loose a child. It makes you think how short life can be. But, the police have no concern for the prople they serve, right Jim?



Jim, look and the whole picture and not just the narrow minded view of your letter and insight. For a second, put you in the place of this situation....



You are dispatched on a family fight where the caller hears two subjects yelling. You arrive on scene and hear a female screaming for help. You walk up to the house and a male, holding a knife runs out at you. Jim, what are you going to do? Think about it.



Are you going to run? Are you going to shoot him in the leg, just like you see on TV? (police are not trained to shoot a leg..in real life) Or are you going to defend yourself with deadly force, shooting to stop the fight, only after you have gone through many options in your head in only half a second? You know Jim, an average male, from about 21 feet away, can run at you with a knife, stab you a few times, before you can react., pull your weapon, and fire one accurate shot. Would you like to do this job I do everyday, knowing the above situation can happen at any moment? It has happened to me, but to my luck, the guy dropped the knife.



Jim, I am sorry you feel all cops should be in jail, are crooks, and liars. It is just your opinion and that doesn't bother me. But come to my world for once and you will see how the job is REALLY done. Seeing what we do from your window and listening on a police scanner does not wipe away that ignorance.



Jim, I know you hate the cops, but if you are ever being attacked by a stranger that has entered your home, we will still respond to protect you. We are here to serve you, even if you hate us. It doesn't matter to me who doesn't like us, I love my job and people like you come with the territory. Maybe one of these days you will have a positive contact with an officer, like most people do.
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