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  • Submitted: Tue, August 06, 2002
  • Updated: Sun, May 01, 2005

  • Reported By:Pinetop AZ
Mesa Police Department
130 N. Robson St. Mesa, Arizona U.S.A.
  • Phone: 480-644-2211
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  • Category: Police

Mesa Police Department, Mesa P.D. Blue Nazis the real story emerges in pieces con artist fake ripoff Mesa Arizona

*Consumer Suggestion: This happens every day in Mesa ..Welcome to a town and an organization where ignorance and indifference are not an accident, but a formalized policy.

*Consumer Suggestion: This happens every day in Mesa ..Welcome to a town and an organization where ignorance and indifference are not an accident, but a formalized policy.

*Consumer Suggestion: This happens every day in Mesa ..Welcome to a town and an organization where ignorance and indifference are not an accident, but a formalized policy.

*Consumer Suggestion: This happens every day in Mesa ..Welcome to a town and an organization where ignorance and indifference are not an accident, but a formalized policy.

*Consumer Suggestion: Nobody votes in Mesa...and everyone complains

*Consumer Suggestion: It's all about money... And cowardice...

*Consumer Comment: The drug dealers working for the police

*Consumer Suggestion: Doesn't the PATRIOT ACT address just this problem?

*Consumer Comment: You are lucky you and this kid were not murdered.

*Consumer Suggestion: You lie down with dogs, you will probably get up with rabies. Welcome to Mesa.

*Consumer Suggestion: Like the rest of Mesa, it is getting worse...

*Consumer Comment: Ah, Robert...now the dribbleheaded morons at Mesa P.D. have tried "uncover"... What a laugh!!!!

*Consumer Comment: It gets even worse... Just when you thought it could not...

*Consumer Suggestion: Robert, what you saw is what everyone sees in Mesa, every day...

*Consumer Suggestion: Wonder Why?

*Consumer Suggestion: This is the gang who can't even shoot CROOKED... The corruption is SO obvious, and no one seems to care.

*Consumer Suggestion: Funny how the law "varies" according to the time of day and phases of the moon, ain't it???

*Consumer Suggestion: This is pretty common here. Too bad.

*Consumer Suggestion: This is pretty common here. Too bad.

*Consumer Suggestion: This is pretty common here. Too bad.

*Consumer Suggestion: Welcome to Mesa! Reach back and get your wallet ready....

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I dont know if this will help on the Rip-Off Report but here goes. As you know we left in July of 2000. The last straw was the drug trafficking, the illegal aliens coming thru that complex, and the just total bull crap the owners were giving us about the complex. We reported the narcotic trafficking and the other illegal activities going on to the owner's representive and also to the drug task force of Mesa, P.D. But did they do anything? NO!!.

Even the residents on Dana Ave. across from "Dana East
Apartments" had complained to the police and nothing ever was ever done about the things going on there at "Dana East". But to give you the info on that 4th of July, 2000 that was the final straw that broke the camel's back.

We told the owners that there would be trouble if they rented the front house to the people they rented to. There was already proof that they were having illegal aliens coming from Mexico and then leaving with two weeks after they got to "Dana East", sometimes even long before. Apt.# 4 and Apt# 8 had more traffic coming and going that a late nite burger shop. And ever bit of the
traffic in those two apartments were nothing but illegal
drugs and illegal aliens, and we were pretty sure,
stolen goods as well.

The people who rented the front house were the ones living in Apt# 8 and also living at a house on Lazona and also on that street that runs north and south and is between Lazona and Stapley, Doran Street. We were getting ready to come up to Show Low for the weekend. Any the people in the front house were told they were not allowed to have a party outside the house, no alcoholic beverages were allowed on the property(I.a. Parking lot and any place were the public could be able to see the beverages), nor they were not allowed to park in any parking spaces assigned to the other residents on "Dana East".

When Tracy and I came into the complex we witness a Mexican male defecating into the bushes next to the house, a very large party of over 30 people, alcohol beverages sitting on the wall around the patio of the house, underage juveniles drinking, and a drug sale in front of our apartment. There were plenty of witnesses.

The latter was in plain view of both Tracy and myself
and they were doing this, as if it were fine, right in the light of our headlights. I contacted the people who had rented the house and told them that the party would have to stop. I also told them that they had violated just about every rule at "Dana East Apartments". They were not happy to say the least and they told me that Tracy and I would get hurt if we contacted the police. I told them that they did not scare me and I contacted 9-1-1 at that time. As I contacted 9-1-1 the people in the front house again threatened Tracy with violence if we called the police. After 15 minutes and Mesa P.D. had not arrived I called 9-1-1 again and told them that we had been threatened by the people in the front house.

The operator told me that I would have to wait. By this time I had gotten out my cane and was ready to use it if I had too. I was not going down without taking some of that scum with me.

We again contacted 9-1-1 about 45 minutes after the first
call and told the operator that if she didn't have the
police there soon there would be trouble and people were
going to be getting hurt. We also told the operator that we had been threatened with our lives and these people were capable to do it.

Mesa P.D. arrived at the complex almost an hour after the first call to 9-1-1 call. I told them what was the problem and about the party and also about the drugs
sale in front of our apartment. The two police officers said to me,"What do you want us to do about it?" When I asked them what did they mean they said that there was nothing they could do because it was all done on private property and they told me that I needed to contact the manager.

I told them that I WAS the on-site manager and I wanted
them to do something about the people in the front house
and the threats made upon our lives. The officers
said that there nothing they could or would do. That is
when I got mad and told the two officers to get back
into their police vehicle and get their asses back
over to the Mormon Temple and stay the hell there.

But they had better be bring body bags if they got another
call there at "Dana East" for there was going to a hell of a lot of Mexican bodies for them. They got in my face and demanded if I was threatening to do something to the people if the house and I told Hell, No I wasn't threatening, I was making them a promise and I don't make threats. I then turned my back on them and Tracy told them they had better leave for I wasn't kidding and that if something did happened to me and her they(Mesa P.D.) would responsible for everything. She also told them that they were worthless as police officers and this kind of police help would not have been tolerated back in Texas.

I am, incidentally, a retired officer myself, now
disabled.

The police officers said something to her but she had turned her back to them and started to try to get me calmed down. At that time I was cussing them and the people in the front house telling them they I was not afraid of them or their people. And if they wanted to try something to me or Tracy they would not have to look far.

Tracy and I left that next morning and when we returned I was carrying a .380 cal. pistol on my hip. I made
sure that they knew that I was packing would use it on them if I had to. That is when I came to your apartment and got those hollow points from you. If you remembered there was not much traffic after that and till the day we finally left the hell hole of "Dana East Apartments" and the land of the "Blue Nazis".......Mesa Police Department. Hope this helps you and the "Rip-Off Report". I will get Drew to write down everything he can remember on what happened that day. I think Tracy has some more tales of the workings of Mesa's proud "Blue Nazis".

Robert
Pinetop (formerly Mesa), Arizona

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#1 Consumer Suggestion

This happens every day in Mesa ..Welcome to a town and an organization where ignorance and indifference are not an accident, but a formalized policy.

AUTHOR: Leslie - (U.S.A.)

Do not be foolish! These overpaid
stiffs come to your door, late, if at
all, as nothing more than a coat of
coverup paint.

High quality officers don't last
long in Mesa, if they have a conscience.


Better to pump a few bullets into
a child with a knife and be forgiven
by Mormon Rick Romley than to do
something unforgiveable, such
as tell the truth.
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#2 Consumer Suggestion

This happens every day in Mesa ..Welcome to a town and an organization where ignorance and indifference are not an accident, but a formalized policy.

AUTHOR: Leslie - (U.S.A.)

Do not be foolish! These overpaid
stiffs come to your door, late, if at
all, as nothing more than a coat of
coverup paint.

High quality officers don't last
long in Mesa, if they have a conscience.


Better to pump a few bullets into
a child with a knife and be forgiven
by Mormon Rick Romley than to do
something unforgiveable, such
as tell the truth.
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#3 Consumer Suggestion

This happens every day in Mesa ..Welcome to a town and an organization where ignorance and indifference are not an accident, but a formalized policy.

AUTHOR: Leslie - (U.S.A.)

Do not be foolish! These overpaid
stiffs come to your door, late, if at
all, as nothing more than a coat of
coverup paint.

High quality officers don't last
long in Mesa, if they have a conscience.


Better to pump a few bullets into
a child with a knife and be forgiven
by Mormon Rick Romley than to do
something unforgiveable, such
as tell the truth.
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#4 Consumer Suggestion

This happens every day in Mesa ..Welcome to a town and an organization where ignorance and indifference are not an accident, but a formalized policy.

AUTHOR: Leslie - (U.S.A.)

Do not be foolish! These overpaid
stiffs come to your door, late, if at
all, as nothing more than a coat of
coverup paint.

High quality officers don't last
long in Mesa, if they have a conscience.


Better to pump a few bullets into
a child with a knife and be forgiven
by Mormon Rick Romley than to do
something unforgiveable, such
as tell the truth.
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#5 Consumer Suggestion

Nobody votes in Mesa...and everyone complains

AUTHOR: Bucky - (U.S.A.)

Hey, this is ALL true.

But this is a town where NOBODY
votes but the local LDS community,
because THEY care...

Want to know why it is this way?
See the above.

These b---------s need to be in prison,
themselves, but nothing will happen
until the present criminals are
turned out of office. Now, there ARE
"civil servants" like Hutchinson and
Donna and lots of cops whose heads need
to be on a lawful chopping block.

But none of the turds elected in this
crummy town will EVER do anything about
that.
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#6 Consumer Suggestion

It's all about money... And cowardice...

AUTHOR: Bernie (Bernard) - (U.S.A.)

It's all about money in Mesa. Well,
money and the "temple connection",
although the Mormon influence in
the direct sense is on the decline.
Thing is, all this crime and meth
and crack cocaine, and this is a
department which regularly kills
people at the drop of a hat because
they are "afraid"...and then they
brag about it!

They seem to have no idea what the
slavery and drug things are about in
the Stapley/Main area, and for miles
in each direction, it's easier to buy
drugs than to find a decent glass of water.

They have effectively abandoned the
Main Street corridor, and lots of the
rest of the town, albeit whether through
ignorance, neglect, or just stupidity
I do not know. I DO know this city's
administrators (especially the city manager
and his toads and flunkies), the past
couple police chiefs, and the department
and the prosecutors have plenty of all 3
attributes. And apparently, the decision
has been made not to waste manpower (or
even to have cops get out of cars) in
areas not peopled by the "annointed ones"...
that means those who have plenty of money.

Cowardice is the main driving force on the
police department. They are "afraid"...
sure as hell not of serious, hard core
criminals, as nearly as you and I can tell
from years of observation, they have NO
contact with actual professional criminals,
who are legion in this town.

Your experience is by no means unique.
It is typical.
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#7 Consumer Comment

The drug dealers working for the police

AUTHOR: Michael - (U.S.A.)

It's really funny that someone wrote in about the drug dealers working for the police (or the other way around) A few months ago I had a neighboring apartment selling drugs and they had been doing it for quite a while. After I figured out what was going on I sent in a "Silent Witness" report to the Police. Very strangly, no uniformed policemen ever showed up there, at least none that I saw. But it wasn't a month later that the people in the apartment moved out. Not only that, but one of my cats mysteriously disappeared at just that same time. It was as if someone told them about the silent witness report and from that the drug dealers figured out who told on them. Maybe this was just a coincidence, but after reading about all the corruption in the police department, maybe it wasn't.
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#8 Consumer Suggestion

Doesn't the PATRIOT ACT address just this problem?

AUTHOR: Vincent - (U.S.A.)

Robert:

How prophetic! See Mario Madrigal, Junior.
I guess, if you are white, they abuse you, and
maybe shoot you, if you are brown, they pump you
full of bullets in front of your parents.

Calling Mesa P.D. for anything, unless you
are rich or Mormon, preferably both, is just
a waste of time, unless you actually want to
be murdered or wait for a couple of days before
you give up.

Wasn't the Patriot Act set up to deal
with terrorist criminals like these? I
mean, Osama bin Laden is a "newby". These
rats have been at this for over 100 years,
and have destroyed vastly more lives with their
lies, criminal conduct, framing, railroading,
and downright fraud and incompetence.

I can tell you this, for sure: We would
be better off with no police or judges
AT ALL than with the slime buckets we have.
I saw a couple of trials here, and they
make the Russian show trials look honest.
These are terrorists and worse.
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#9 Consumer Comment

You are lucky you and this kid were not murdered.

AUTHOR: Estaban - (U.S.A.)

Read the data on the Mario Madrigal, Jr.,
killing. Mesa P.D. usually kills its enemies.
Then they investigate themselves, and find,
no matter how cowardly, illegal, sniveling,
corrupt, or fictional they and their cases
are, they did nothing wrong. And then they
make a lot of braggart talk about "heroism"...
if these are heroes, how the hell does one
define gutless cowardice, which is what
we ACTUALLY see from these dung-gobs.

Point: You are lucky to be alive, and so
are these kids. They were white, of course,
but so were the two kids they cops murdered
on Main because they were "scared"... Try
using that excuse some time for something
like pushing someone out of your way and these
same hypocritical filth will arrest you for
aggravated assault, in case you haven't
noticed.

The last kid they murdered was Mexican,
back on 25 August 2003. He was already
down when they pumped their .40 caliber
bullets into him. Oh, he apparently had
a little-bitty knife. And he weighed all
of 115 lbs. Anybody over the age of 18 or
so could have disarmed him with no damage
done. But not these cowardly scum. NO!!!
No wonder the chicken shits won't confront
the crack and meth dealers and labs which
are all over their scurvy, rotten town.

Yup. That was justified. Sure.

And if you believe that, you are so
damned stupid you will believe ANYTHING.

Don't confuse these lilly-livered
pansies with that old "life on the line"
thing, these storm troopers have no
intention of even breaking a sweat,
let alone to help out a citizen. They
just shoot. This ain't the thin blue
line; it is about 1300 of the yellowest
rats I have ever even heard of, paid
entirely too much. We need to cut this
force by about 50%, destroy their
helos, and bring a few of these scum
to justice.

Definition of a police state: WHEN THE
POLICE ARE MORE OF A THREAT THAN CRIMINALS,
OR: Where the Police ARE the criminals.
That describes Mesa accurately.

Thanks, Robert, your report almost
psychically predicted the Madrigal event,
albeit no one in Mesa cared enough to do
anything about it and start a meaningful
purge of these cowardly, incompetent
lice.
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#10 Consumer Suggestion

You lie down with dogs, you will probably get up with rabies. Welcome to Mesa.

AUTHOR: Rudie - (U.S.A.)

Robert:

Right on! This is how
Mesa continually embarrasses
itself.

Stupid, lowlifes run this town, and
these cops--aside from a few
who work hard and probably are
pretty decent guys--carefully
avoid anything dangerous like
"crime". Risk their lives?
Hell, the don't even break
a sweat, especially not dealing
with crooks.

That whole neighborhood, and
a long ways south, west, and
east, is a gangrenous wound,
and the lack of real enforcement
is dimishing life quality and
property values. And no one could
care less than the city government,
who prefers to spend tax money
on "longevity pay" and their
idiot-ass "art center"...

Crafty and cunning, crooked
and rotten, that is what RUNS
Mesa. Filthbags of the lowest
and most revolting sort!

I am leaving this week, forever,
and wish I had left ten years
sooner. I kept hoping, thinking,
foolishly, it HAS to start
improving. Well, it got WORSE,
and at a rate that was amazing.

Don't think for a second this is
any kind of accident. Ratbastards
like the city managers plan it that
way. Makes their job easier.

What really baffled me was the
stupidity of the local cops. I had
a conversation like the one you
describe, and used some of the
same terms, and the cop had no
idea in hell what I was referring
to. How anyone can be in that
area and not know what a meth
factory is or what a coyote is...
well, it doesn't exactly inspire
confidence. One of the retarded
scumbuckets in that very building
took offense when I asked him
to turn down his filthy sewer music...
claimed all sorts of silly-assed things.
Guy is a drug dealer, and from the
way the cops treated him, apparently
they work for him or he for them...
He must be at least a snitch.
What bozos! Last cops of that
quality I saw were on the silver
screen, bearing the "KEYSTONE"
title!

I hasten to add, other than his lying
crap about "I pay rent", he really
had no direct response. And I
didn't even swear.

Funny how people can break laws
in this shithole concentration camp,
and be defended by these useless hunks
of dung, while others--trying to
get some sleep so they can get
to work on time and awake--are
given no credence at all.

These goofy crackpots fly their
stupid helicopters over your head
at 4 a.m. and act all puffed up
and gloriously righteous...because
in their moronic imaginations they
are "chasing dangerous felons"...

Mesa P.D. and the city government
are not a solution to anything.
They just more annoying problems.
Problems that have to be gotten rid
of.

But not by me. I am out of this
cesspool.
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#11 Consumer Suggestion

Like the rest of Mesa, it is getting worse...

AUTHOR: Jaime Alejandro - (U.S.A.)

Robert:

It is getting much worse.

Something vile is being cooked in #102 and I think #101 also, the very same house where you are talking about at 1414 East Dana. East Dana Apartments.

I seen the "undercover" jerk also. He was about as undercover as a tank.

This is bad drugs. I have for me my friend to send this.

This is a terrible place.

Coyotes are here.

Three drug dealers, I think, and they are manufacture next to that white man. They hate him, and attack him all the time.
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#12 Consumer Comment

Ah, Robert...now the dribbleheaded morons at Mesa P.D. have tried "uncover"... What a laugh!!!!

AUTHOR: Jim - (U.S.A.)

Robert:

More recently, the bozos who comprise the organization laughingly called the "Mesa Police Department"--I can hardly describe these scum without laughing, they SURELY are not a real law enforcement agency, but I cannot think of any name to call them I could repeat here--trie "undercover" work here, disembarking some fat, repulsive slob with blond hair and a Hawaiian shirt half a dozen times while further idiots in their patrol cars parked across from the Catholic Church.

Ain't it amazing this criminal scum didn't find anything, huh? Hilarious!!! I tried to report various major felonies here myself half a dozen times, and the cowards reacted just as you describe. Finally, though, I can leave this cesspool of a town, and this particular overpriced ghetto.

Some other police hid on Lazona. Might as well have sent in a brass band. The cocaine and marijuana dealers and the guy on the end who deals in stolen car parts and the coyote crews knew from the get-go this guy was "undercover"...

As police departments go, this one ain't even a good clow act. They might as well have sent the Goodyear blimp. I saw this toad. HE WAS THE GOODYEAR BLIMP!!! Drove a Geo Metro. Questioned ME of all people one day.

We have our answer: the question is, is Mesa P.D. mainly corrupt, stupid, cowardly, or just incompetent? The answer is resoundingly: ALL OF THE ABOVE.

They had solid evidence from a former police officer and a resident, ignored it, sent in their own sack of mud idiot, and got nothing. Now they can declare the community safer! These jerks need to get red rubber noses and clown horns. Two days after the "operation" ended, a new drug dealer moved in.

Congratulations, you parasitic drips with Mesa P.D., on another moronic operation, done with your usual lack of sense and ridiculous resources.

This community would be better off with NO police department than the collection of criminals and jerks it has.
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#13 Consumer Comment

It gets even worse... Just when you thought it could not...

AUTHOR: Leslie - (U.S.A.)

Now, the city of Mesa is talking about using
an old statute to impose felony charges against
owners and managers of addresses/locations
where crime is chronic. Want to guess what THAT means???

Like the bogus "SLUMLORD" act, which county
attorney Rick Romley tried to use for his
own, narrow political purposes, it is a
SCAM, and for the same reasons. Property
targeted will be that from which the local
cliques can benefit most, as in: either taking
OVER the properties, or eliminating
competition, in order to press the already
ridiculously high rents in this sweat shop
environment EVEN HIGHER, to benefit to dozen
or so families which actually own this filthy
town.

Want some addresses? Try 1414 East Dana Avenue, where a grand total of TWO adult residents are
even in the U.S. legally, and there are at least
FOUR drug dealers and considerable coyote activity. Try 44 S. Williams Street, where there have been 3-5 murders in the past 15 years,
and at least seven drug busts...there seem to be six dealers active now, in 20 apartments. Try the area just East of Broadway and Gilbert, or anywhere or Doran Street, or the apartments on Stapley more-or-less anywhere south of Main Street.

These are places where crack cocaine and marijuana are available, and often smoked right out in the open. Turn in by mistake, and one is frequently solicited by drug dealers.

Two cops ON FOOT, undercover or not, could discover more crime in one night by accident than 200 driving around in police cruisers.

Guess what? It will NEVER go that way.

It isn't conducive to inflating the
already-bloated personnel staff and budget
of the local police department. 800+ cops,
500+ other police staff, and not ONE guy walking a beat, where it might ACTUALLY do some good.
Does this surprise anyone?

Thank you, Robert.
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#14 Consumer Suggestion

Robert, what you saw is what everyone sees in Mesa, every day...

AUTHOR: Benjamin - ()

What you saw, Robert, is not a rarity.

It is PRO FORMA... Mesa lives like this.

It is a city which hides real crime, the cops are neck deep in it (and the corresponding kickbacks and coverups), and which draws happy faces
on everything the tight little clique
of power does.

It is ugly and repulsive, and is destroying the
town.

It is, in fact, the reason I left. That and the city administration's open hostility to anyone who isn't in their tight little circle. I had my own business, and I simply folded it and left.

They sent police to harass me, fooled with my various licenses, inferred at one point that my employees were dealing drugs on the premises (if they were, I never noticed, and they had no proof, and I was there every open moment), and just generally made life miserable.

Too bad. Twenty years ago, it was a nice town. But I think the Nazi filth who run the place feel their power slipping away as the Mormon population diminishes by percentage, and fight like rats to do ANYTHING to hang onto their power. Unfortunately, they have destroyed the police department completely.

800+ cops and 500 other employees, and if they have ten people who are competent, I would be absolutely amazed. If they have five who are honest, I would be even more startled.
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#15 Consumer Suggestion

Wonder Why?

AUTHOR: Stevie - ()

Robert:

I lived about a block from this place. I am leaving Mesa today, for good. Called "911" when one of the residents from there was trying to break in. I photographed him. Then I got my
shotgun.

Cops showed up an hour later. No action at all.

They did chew me out and threatened to arrest me for "brandishing" my shotgun.

These people are nuts. They are ACTUALLY ENCOURAGING the wholesale crime that flows from
that strip of buildings and down on Doran Street.

One or two cops on foot, a few hours a day, and some of this would just stop. It is so casual. Drug traffic, slavery, prostitution--the two I saw were maybe 12 years old--"coyote" operations, stolen cars and trucks, loud mariachi music, public drinking all the time, people peeing and even defecating right out in the open, all were so frequent here, it is sickening. The burglaries are kind of casual "walk-by" things.

What in the HELL do they think they are doing?

They never even offer excuses, beyond "We
are Infallible". Well, they aren't even
close.
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#16 Consumer Suggestion

This is the gang who can't even shoot CROOKED... The corruption is SO obvious, and no one seems to care.

AUTHOR: Rudie - ()

Robert:

This was before the suicide attempt over on Nielsen, the one where Mesa P.D. called in a
SWAT team and basically invaded the house.

That girl miscarried, didn't she? And wasn't it
REALLY the word suicide, only, that got that ball
rolling?

You do know this huge coyote operation also moves huge amounts of heroin and coacine?

And you do know it is sold here and on South Doran right out in the open?

Ah, but don't drive there with a drink under your belt! Hell, no, that would be a crime!

That same complex now fronts yet another coyote
operation, even more malignant than the last one.

Mesa P.D. knows all this.

How much do you suppose they make keeping it
going? Do you figure it is individual cops,
or is Hutchinson himself gettting a piece of
the action? I figure it's both.

They'll give you the "not our jurisdiction" b.s., but of course, the hundreds of stolen c.d.'s and car radios and car parts sold out of there--not to mention the drugs and actual slavery--are generally considered within their venue of power. I think it is all about bank accounts, nothing more.

So obvious!!!
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Funny how the law "varies" according to the time of day and phases of the moon, ain't it???

AUTHOR: James - ()

Wasn't that the very same day the cop told
you that neither public consumption of alcohol nor public intoxication was illegal??

What do you figure would have happened had
they done the same things in a park next to a
MORMON neighborhood?

And did you know, at least four of the cars
parked in the lot at the time were STOLEN???

This is why no one around here even bothers
to call Mesa P.D. any more.

They park their helo overhead, but I think this place was not made for Mormon feet. They are perhaps too delicate.
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#18 Consumer Suggestion

This is pretty common here. Too bad.

AUTHOR: Kayla - ()

This is very common in Mesa. Rather than
look into actual crimes, they prefer to poke
around and make some up. It is easier,
and not dangerous.

I am a member of the LDS church myself. I am
ashamed to say it, but a lot of the local
politicians plan it this way, and they are
from our religion.

Why, I don't know. I always thought they were
hiding some horrible truth and trying to assure
their jobs. And they only care what "looks
good" in the papers or their own reports.

My brother ran a meth lab here for ten years,
and even family members tried to turn him in.
A couple of years ago, he got killed by one
of his customers, who went crazy. This was
all "hushed up". Their protecting him or whatever they were trying to do sure didn't
help.

I know for sure there is no point in doing
anything about this. Call DEA maybe,
but these guys don't even seem interested in
crime. I guess it's because they do so much
of it themselves.
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#19 Consumer Suggestion

This is pretty common here. Too bad.

AUTHOR: Kayla - ()

This is very common in Mesa. Rather than
look into actual crimes, they prefer to poke
around and make some up. It is easier,
and not dangerous.

I am a member of the LDS church myself. I am
ashamed to say it, but a lot of the local
politicians plan it this way, and they are
from our religion.

Why, I don't know. I always thought they were
hiding some horrible truth and trying to assure
their jobs. And they only care what "looks
good" in the papers or their own reports.

My brother ran a meth lab here for ten years,
and even family members tried to turn him in.
A couple of years ago, he got killed by one
of his customers, who went crazy. This was
all "hushed up". Their protecting him or whatever they were trying to do sure didn't
help.

I know for sure there is no point in doing
anything about this. Call DEA maybe,
but these guys don't even seem interested in
crime. I guess it's because they do so much
of it themselves.
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#20 Consumer Suggestion

This is pretty common here. Too bad.

AUTHOR: Kayla - ()

This is very common in Mesa. Rather than
look into actual crimes, they prefer to poke
around and make some up. It is easier,
and not dangerous.

I am a member of the LDS church myself. I am
ashamed to say it, but a lot of the local
politicians plan it this way, and they are
from our religion.

Why, I don't know. I always thought they were
hiding some horrible truth and trying to assure
their jobs. And they only care what "looks
good" in the papers or their own reports.

My brother ran a meth lab here for ten years,
and even family members tried to turn him in.
A couple of years ago, he got killed by one
of his customers, who went crazy. This was
all "hushed up". Their protecting him or whatever they were trying to do sure didn't
help.

I know for sure there is no point in doing
anything about this. Call DEA maybe,
but these guys don't even seem interested in
crime. I guess it's because they do so much
of it themselves.
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#21 Consumer Suggestion

Welcome to Mesa! Reach back and get your wallet ready....

AUTHOR: J.L. - ()

Robert:

I lived in that building at the same time. It was and IS way worse than you describe. Ironically, I got stopped outside the drive
THAT VERY SAME NIGHT, WHILE ON FEDERAL DUTY, NO LESS...I had done nothing wrong, so I presume it was yet another "DWNM" ( DRIVING WHILE NOT MORMON), and I probably should have reported the sleazebags to Washington. And then I got home and, as you describe, there was a drug deal going down at my very door. Kind of like the old joke about cops and convenience stores, not being able to find one when you really need it, etc., except NOT FUNNY AT ALL.

I recall when someone called about the fights that got blood all over my car. The participants in the fight never even got questioned, but they intended to question me FOR CLEANING THE BLOOD OFF MY CAR WITH DETERGENT AND BLEACH.... That was over a drug deal, too.

So were the various shootings. I won't even call the locals any more. Waste of time! Same with the painfully loud mariachi music and gunshots and needles and people shooting up on what used to be the playground. Why bother? Effectively, Mesa has NO police department, unless you are rich and/or Mormon, and really, very little even then.

The building has since changed hands and gotten much worse.
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