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  • Submitted: Mon, September 15, 2008
  • Updated: Thu, September 25, 2008

  • Reported By:Rocklin California
Michelle Hidalgo
3609 West Summit Walk Dr. (Last Known Address) Anthem/Phoenix, Arizona U.S.A.

Michelle Hidalgo - Martin Hidalgo - Michelle Yogan, Pamperedshell, Isabel Hidalgo Mamas going green, robbed of thier green!! Cloth Diaper Scam!! Anthem, Phoenix Arizona

*Consumer Comment: Good to "see" her family knows

*Consumer Comment: Good to "see" her family knows

*Consumer Comment: Good to "see" her family knows

*Consumer Comment: Good to "see" her family knows

*Author of original report: My rebuttal!

*Author of original report: My rebuttal!

*Consumer Comment: Save your outrage, stop slandering private citizens

*Author of original report: An obvious Lie

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This mama is a piece of work! Michelle Hidalgo, so called loving mom to 3 kids with one on the way due SEPT!, and supposedly best friend to her husband Martin, Yeah rightt! What kind of mother puts her family in risk and robs other moms of thier hard earned cash?? Definetely not a mother who deserves that title in any way, shape or form!!

This mama proceeded to sell me $75 worth of cloth diapers in which I had to borrow from my father to buy for my little one! Then only to find out she sold the SAME 5 diapers (Berry Plush) to other mamas online! She even had the nerve to lie and tell me she mailed them, through Paypals obviously flawed system (its truly a joke!!)! I am so upset! In our household every penny counts, I am mom of 5 kids, with a little one on the way. We live off of a teachers salary in a costly state (CA) and I don't appreciate at all being ripped off!!

My family along with many of the other moms effected in this have chosen to Cloth Diaper our children not only for the health benefits for our little ones, saving in cost, but also for our nation/county/world as a whole! And to be taken advantage of by another so called loving MOM is disgusting!

Of course local police say they can't help, federal IC3 claims have been filed, but I am sure are not of priority do to it just being a bunch of moms!

This IS a serious crime, thousands of dollars have been stolen from these moms! This is a woman who has commited a felony and her only contact to us to rectify the situation is through emails (claimed to be from the husband) on how they are working with paypal to fix the situation. Though Paypal states they have not heard from Michelle at all! In the emails her husband Martin (?) nothing matches up from one person to the next, we ALL get different sob stories! If is it her husband Martin he is aiding and embetting her in this crime and needs to go down too!

I would urge anyone who has any information on this woman to contact: federal IC3, local authorities, any moderator at Diaperswappers, or even the people here at Ripoff Report...she needs to be caught, and to pay for the crimes she has commited!

For anyone thinking she may have made a mistake, or hearing her say she made a mistake...this is far beyond a simple mistake! This woman sold the same diapers to numerous moms (if you only have 5 of one kind, its obvious you can't sell 20 of them). She also took the time to log into paypal and claim the items were shipped to each person. This is not so at all! Two weeks later, still no diapers...plus her husband Martins (?) emails went from "My wife has been busy in ICU with the birth of our new son and the packages have just not been mailed yet", to stories of "she is working to refund money back", to "please stop contacting us, our family is going through tough times right now"...Something just does not add up...then hearing stories of local Cloth Diaper stores in her area that are dealing with issues of chargebacks on payments made to them for merchandise! This woman is criminal! She knew what she was doing, she has money that does not belong to her, and diapers that don't belong to her! She has to be stopped!

This is personally my first footprint in this saga, I plan to tell this story to anyone and everyone who will listen until Michelle and anyone who is a aiding her in this (husband Martin) and so on are caught and pay for what they have done!

We may just be a group of crunchy Mamas, but we were the WRONG group of crunchy mamas to mess with!!!

Terra
Rocklin, California
U.S.A.


This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 09/15/2008 08:54 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Michelle-Hidalgo/AnthemPhoenix-Arizona-85086/Michelle-Hidalgo-Martin-Hidalgo-Michelle-Yogan-Pamperedshell-Isabel-Hidalgo-Mamas-go-373243. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 Consumer Comment

Good to "see" her family knows

AUTHOR: Another Scammed Mama - (U.S.A.)

Jacqueline, glad to see this has gotten as far as her family Maybe you can help her get herself and her family out of the mess she has gotten herself into. Innocent until proven guilty. Yes. But by the Proof of receipts and her own admission she has been proven guilty. Everything that has been said is all verifiable Facts. And YES I am one of the Moms she bought stuff from and then took the money back KEEPING my merchandise. Are you condoning that because she is not a company that it is ok for her to steal, lie and cheat people? We have to take things into our own hands because she has not been truthful from day one. Now Honestly if it was an honest mistake why on earth would Michelle not try to make things right? I mean If it were me I would be going thru hoops to make sure That the mistake was corrected. So why if she is innocent can she not just fix it? She either has the diapers and is going to mail them out or she has the money and is going to refund it. So why is she not doing this? Why all the lies on top of lies? Please if you have some insight share it. All we want is our money or merchandise and we will go away, that simple..
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#2 Consumer Comment

Good to "see" her family knows

AUTHOR: Another Scammed Mama - (U.S.A.)

Jacqueline, glad to see this has gotten as far as her family Maybe you can help her get herself and her family out of the mess she has gotten herself into. Innocent until proven guilty. Yes. But by the Proof of receipts and her own admission she has been proven guilty. Everything that has been said is all verifiable Facts. And YES I am one of the Moms she bought stuff from and then took the money back KEEPING my merchandise. Are you condoning that because she is not a company that it is ok for her to steal, lie and cheat people? We have to take things into our own hands because she has not been truthful from day one. Now Honestly if it was an honest mistake why on earth would Michelle not try to make things right? I mean If it were me I would be going thru hoops to make sure That the mistake was corrected. So why if she is innocent can she not just fix it? She either has the diapers and is going to mail them out or she has the money and is going to refund it. So why is she not doing this? Why all the lies on top of lies? Please if you have some insight share it. All we want is our money or merchandise and we will go away, that simple..
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#3 Consumer Comment

Good to "see" her family knows

AUTHOR: Another Scammed Mama - (U.S.A.)

Jacqueline, glad to see this has gotten as far as her family Maybe you can help her get herself and her family out of the mess she has gotten herself into. Innocent until proven guilty. Yes. But by the Proof of receipts and her own admission she has been proven guilty. Everything that has been said is all verifiable Facts. And YES I am one of the Moms she bought stuff from and then took the money back KEEPING my merchandise. Are you condoning that because she is not a company that it is ok for her to steal, lie and cheat people? We have to take things into our own hands because she has not been truthful from day one. Now Honestly if it was an honest mistake why on earth would Michelle not try to make things right? I mean If it were me I would be going thru hoops to make sure That the mistake was corrected. So why if she is innocent can she not just fix it? She either has the diapers and is going to mail them out or she has the money and is going to refund it. So why is she not doing this? Why all the lies on top of lies? Please if you have some insight share it. All we want is our money or merchandise and we will go away, that simple..
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#4 Consumer Comment

Good to "see" her family knows

AUTHOR: Another Scammed Mama - (U.S.A.)

Jacqueline, glad to see this has gotten as far as her family Maybe you can help her get herself and her family out of the mess she has gotten herself into. Innocent until proven guilty. Yes. But by the Proof of receipts and her own admission she has been proven guilty. Everything that has been said is all verifiable Facts. And YES I am one of the Moms she bought stuff from and then took the money back KEEPING my merchandise. Are you condoning that because she is not a company that it is ok for her to steal, lie and cheat people? We have to take things into our own hands because she has not been truthful from day one. Now Honestly if it was an honest mistake why on earth would Michelle not try to make things right? I mean If it were me I would be going thru hoops to make sure That the mistake was corrected. So why if she is innocent can she not just fix it? She either has the diapers and is going to mail them out or she has the money and is going to refund it. So why is she not doing this? Why all the lies on top of lies? Please if you have some insight share it. All we want is our money or merchandise and we will go away, that simple..
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#5 Author of original report

My rebuttal!

AUTHOR: Hockeymom75 - (U.S.A.)

Thank you so much for responding to my message. It shows me that ripoff report DOES work. If I am getting the TRUE story out there to other people on the net, then I consider this a great leap! Even though I am sure you are a friend of the family and DO NOT know all the facts I do respect your feeling to protect someone close to you!

I am filing on ripoff report because if you take the time to read the guidelines, you CAN file your report with TRUE information that is filed against a personal party! I have never lied, chosen misleading words, or fabircated any part of my information listed! I have proof to back up every word I say, from her lies, to information on the scam, and more!! Can you honestly say that about whom you are backing up? What proof do you have that she did not do this or that she is truly working on fixing this matter, besides her word...which is worth 2cents at this point to all the moms out of money!?!

It must be nice to be you, where you can simply be naive in this matter at hand, and have extra money to lose! We are a group of Stay at home moms, and work at home moms, who have husbands who work hard to make living for us! Many of us struggle from month to month, and made the choice to splurge on a set of diapers from a mama who made it seem she was trusting! Losing over $1500 in the process! Where did that money go if this was not a set out scam? Did she accidentally spend it? oops...I forgot to send the dipes and I spent the money?! Get real!

We are not asking for anymore letters from michelle or her husband with excuses of everything wrong in thier lives, which ALL at this point turn out to be lies! We are only asking that if this was NOT set out to be a scam to take our money, that she step forward and do the RIGHT thing. Give us ALL back our money, or send us our dipes!!

Michelle/Martin claim they have talked to Paypal about the matter and that they are holding thier money! Feel free to call Paypal yourself, but they (THE COMPANY PAYPAL) say they have not heard from the Hidalgos at ALL! That they are trying to contact them, and have sent letters, only to get ignored! Plus Paypal claims there is NOT money in the account to pay people back, or they would just do that! Do you honestly think Paypal is holding the money just so they can get calls day and night from mamas who want thier money? what would that be fun for paypal?

I think it is noble to stick by your friends side, but at the same time. We have a right to do what it takes to get our money! Also, it is funny that you think it is ALL me doing the searching in this matter. Be aware, there were over 51 mothers affected in this...I am NOT alone, I do NOT stand alone, and I do NOT work alone! I would not have the time to do all that!

I DO have alot of things better to do with my time, but I am involved in this first hand, and I see the effects this has had on many mothers lives! Loss of money due to a stupid choice is one thing...you can move on...but loss of money due to a thief is another! And seeing justice done, and doing what it takes to fix the matter is not a crime!

If this was NOT a scam, she has the option to easily fix this all! Pay people back, EVERYONE! or send the dipes...she chooses to make this be prolonged! Not us!

And yes...when this is OVER...I am sure we will all use ourselves in much more productive, POSITIVE ways...thanks for your advice!
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My rebuttal!

AUTHOR: Hockeymom75 - (U.S.A.)

Thank you so much for responding to my message. It shows me that ripoff report DOES work. If I am getting the TRUE story out there to other people on the net, then I consider this a great leap! Even though I am sure you are a friend of the family and DO NOT know all the facts I do respect your feeling to protect someone close to you!

I am filing on ripoff report because if you take the time to read the guidelines, you CAN file your report with TRUE information that is filed against a personal party! I have never lied, chosen misleading words, or fabircated any part of my information listed! I have proof to back up every word I say, from her lies, to information on the scam, and more!! Can you honestly say that about whom you are backing up? What proof do you have that she did not do this or that she is truly working on fixing this matter, besides her word...which is worth 2cents at this point to all the moms out of money!?!

It must be nice to be you, where you can simply be naive in this matter at hand, and have extra money to lose! We are a group of Stay at home moms, and work at home moms, who have husbands who work hard to make living for us! Many of us struggle from month to month, and made the choice to splurge on a set of diapers from a mama who made it seem she was trusting! Losing over $1500 in the process! Where did that money go if this was not a set out scam? Did she accidentally spend it? oops...I forgot to send the dipes and I spent the money?! Get real!

We are not asking for anymore letters from michelle or her husband with excuses of everything wrong in thier lives, which ALL at this point turn out to be lies! We are only asking that if this was NOT set out to be a scam to take our money, that she step forward and do the RIGHT thing. Give us ALL back our money, or send us our dipes!!

Michelle/Martin claim they have talked to Paypal about the matter and that they are holding thier money! Feel free to call Paypal yourself, but they (THE COMPANY PAYPAL) say they have not heard from the Hidalgos at ALL! That they are trying to contact them, and have sent letters, only to get ignored! Plus Paypal claims there is NOT money in the account to pay people back, or they would just do that! Do you honestly think Paypal is holding the money just so they can get calls day and night from mamas who want thier money? what would that be fun for paypal?

I think it is noble to stick by your friends side, but at the same time. We have a right to do what it takes to get our money! Also, it is funny that you think it is ALL me doing the searching in this matter. Be aware, there were over 51 mothers affected in this...I am NOT alone, I do NOT stand alone, and I do NOT work alone! I would not have the time to do all that!

I DO have alot of things better to do with my time, but I am involved in this first hand, and I see the effects this has had on many mothers lives! Loss of money due to a stupid choice is one thing...you can move on...but loss of money due to a thief is another! And seeing justice done, and doing what it takes to fix the matter is not a crime!

If this was NOT a scam, she has the option to easily fix this all! Pay people back, EVERYONE! or send the dipes...she chooses to make this be prolonged! Not us!

And yes...when this is OVER...I am sure we will all use ourselves in much more productive, POSITIVE ways...thanks for your advice!
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#7 Consumer Comment

Save your outrage, stop slandering private citizens

AUTHOR: Slandorous Spotter - (U.S.A.)

Regardless if these moms' claims are true or not, their aggressive and collaborative attacks on Michelle Hidalgo and her family are extremely disturbing. If you seach the Internet, you will see numerous "Rip Off" alerts and warnings about Michelle Hidalgo put together in the last few days by these "outraged" moms. You would think she stole their children the way they have banded together to vehemently and viciously attack Michelle and her husband Martin.

Michelle is a private citizen (not a company) who may or may not have taken them for a ride, but whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? Taking matters into your own hands and trying to share information to help others from falling victim to a supposed scam is one thing. Slandering and repeatedly attacking this fellow Mom is just cyber bullying. I say they should save their "outrage" for more pressing issues. Your point has been made. You feel wronged. We get it. Now can you put this energy into something productive? How about helping the poor people in Texas who lost everything in the last Hurricane? Or how about putting your "crunchie" beliefs into practice by starting a local green initiative? Just a thought. My main point is, turn your negative experience into a positive one instead of spreading more hate.
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#8 Author of original report

An obvious Lie

AUTHOR: Hockeymom75 - (U.S.A.)

So we have been talking to her (husband) Martin through emails, or at least thats what was stated, who has been claiming that poor michelle is just sick to death taking care of thier baby in NICU since beginning of Sept! That poor baby! Only to find out that she gave birth to her baby via C-section on Sept 16th at Scottsdale healthcare shea! How is it possible she was taking care of a baby in ICU for the past two weeks, only to have delivered two days ago!!! Her lies never end!!

After two weeks of fighting with Paypal who is no help, being lied to by michelles so called husband through emails saying she is working things out with paypal, I am at the end.

How can a woman be so low! First you steal, lie and cheat people!...and you honestly expect us to move on, and let it go! She needs to go to jail and pay for the crimes she has commited!
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