• Report: #851411

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  • Submitted: Fri, March 09, 2012
  • Updated: Fri, March 09, 2012

  • Reported By: rockgoddess42 — Campbell California United States of America
Miles Shumilak
3528 Mission Blvd. San Diego, California United States of America

Miles Shumilak miles.sandiego Preys on new bands/artists promising magazine article only requiring $25 processing fee but no product granted San Diego, California

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Explanation ...

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As a manager for a newborn band, it's tricky to find good promoters. I want everyone who is in the same search to understand that "The List" Magazine is a scam and Miles Shumilak, the owner/producer/editor is a fake. You will go through a discussion that sounds good with responses from a live person, maybe even a phone call. But once all the information is passed along, there's a "conveniently forgotten" processing fee of "only" $25. Dues they may be, happily paid for when you get something in return. A something we did not receive after 4 months of waiting.

Miles Shumilak did not provide a response to numerous attempts for more information. He did not reply to any request for refund.

He has been doing this long enough to know the loop holes, for example using PayPal as a comfort to his prey, a security feature, when in reality you can't dispute a transaction with a service. So, really, there is no consequence if he does not produce for you and no representation for you.

Everyone who has been scammed, please go to the bottom of his dreadful website and click on "Report Abuse." Google hosted websites have to play by the rules, and we as consumers, artists and community have the power to report his actions as they are: a scam. So please, take the time to fill it out and hopefully Google will be able to shut him down.

Even temporarily, it would be a victory for his victims. 

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#1 REBUTTAL Owner of company

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AUTHOR: Miles Shumilak - ()

This is Miles Shumilak. I need to take responsibility for these old complaints about The LIST Magazine. I don't expect to win everyone's heart over but the least I can do is explain ...

The LIST was a print mag I created in my twenties, my first attempt at running a business (with zero training or experience). At that point I had been in a band for ten years, eventually sponsored by Lamborghini and touring the country, good times but still a starving artist. Intrigued by entertainment media and entrepreneurship, I took the leap and tried running my own mag. For years I made no money, chasing advertisers etc.. Eventually I had an 'aha' moment and realized I could offer micro-ads to indie artists like myself, and build a national promotional network that we would all benefit from. It was a ton of work to communicate with hundreds of bands, but it felt good to support musicians and $25 seemed extremely reasonable. 
The PROBLEM is that I was extremely naive about the workload I was committing to for such a cheap price. It quickly became overwhelming to edit so much content for so many bands who were barely paying anything. I couldn't keep up and people started getting pissed, understandably on their part. What no one realizes is that 95% of my bands were happy and successfully taken care of, but it became a massive business and I got way behind schedule, hence these angry comments. I DEFINITELY f***** up, but my goal was never to 'scam' people. 
CONSIDER THIS: if I was trying to to be shady, I certainly wouldn't have friended everyone on facebook, shared my personal phone number, email, and life story with all these artists ... so they could easily put me on blast and ruin my reputation. While some of you got left hanging for $25, look at the the damage I've done to my name. It's extremely embarrassing, I'm deeply ashamed, but now I have to deal with it. At this point presently, I've already resolved and/or refunded most of these complaints, but unfortunately the internet is not conducive to people making positive comments, as anyone who's been on youtube can attest. Tempers and words get out of control very quickly when someone is sitting safely home alone on their laptop. 
Bottom line is I bit off way more than I could chew at that point in my life, I got way overwhelmed, and The LIST failed. I was just a broke ambitious band guy who had a good idea that worked way too well and too fast. I'm GENUINELY SORRY, obviously I lost in the end and it'll take years (or forever) for me to fix my reputation. My friends in 'real life' love me, I'm a positive and intelligent person who made some stupid mistakes. I've learned from them and am now successfully supporting artists around the world. If you haven't already been refunded, text me at 858.771.0131 and I'll respond promptly. I'm not perfect, but I'm not evil. If you've never bit off more than you can chew ... you're not hungry enough.
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