- Report: #695602
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Complaint Review: Millennium Wellness
Millennium Wellness1197 W.NEWPORT CENTER DR. DEERFIELD BEACH, Florida United States of America
Millennium Wellness Sun Health Systems, sunhealthsystems.com, United Medical Network, programedhealth.com, South East Health Systems, sehealthsystems.com, ABC Wellnes, United Medical Network, yourhealthymeals.com Franchise opportunity seems too good to be true. Many red flags: Company keeps changing it's name, many complaints. DEERFIELD BEACH, Florida
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The business model appears to become a distributor, with a defined territory of 1 millon people for $12k, or 4 million people for $24k. You then are expected to sign up physical trainers, medical doctors, wellness centers, osteopaths, chiropractors, acupuncturists, etc. to sell nutritional supplements to thier clients. The distributor receives 10% commission on sales, and the health care professional a 40% commission. The angle, is that they provide a "customized wellness program" based on a urinalysis and an extensive questionnaire that no other competitor has. The science supposedly is "patented", and the products are supported by a panel of clinical nutritionists and medical professionals. The supplements are high quality and competitively priced compared to "GNC".
The problem is that it appears that the company has changed its name multiple times over the past 3 years, and there are multiple complaints from people that have become distributors and have lost their entire investments, and are convinced this is nothing but an illegal scam and the principals should be in jail.
For me it started like this. I was contacted by a "recruiter", Melissa Keiser, from Premier Search, Inc. that said they were working on an assignment for a company in the medical field and were looking to expand their network of distributors.
The recruiter asked me if I be interested in speaking with the company. Knowing that the healthcare industry is booming right now I said "sure". The next day I received a call from a gentleman by the name of Joe Wagner who said he was calling from SE Health Systems. Joe asked me about my background and I told him that I had been a VP Sales / Marketing at various companies, etc. and he started to tell me how SE Health Solutions and their business model and how effective it's been at helping people like myself. He asked if I was "liquid" and had 12k to invest - I said I did.
I wanted more information, and he said they were having a "webinar" on Monday at 12:30 PM EST, that would take about 1 hr. and that I should be at my PC and he would call me then. Joe asked me to call and speak with 2 existing distributors to see of the “kind of money they're making is acceptable.” He said that during the "webinar" due to "franchise laws", he could not mention earning potential, even though I had not yet raised the question of potential earnings.
I took the phone numbers down for Paul Raymond (724) 420-1040 and Bill McBride (918) 606-2850 he insisted that I call these distributors before the webinar on Monday. I called both numbers Monday morning and left messages to call me. It was odd that both of the phone answering messages answered with a telephone number only, no names -- another red flag. Each called me back within a couple of hours.
Paul claimed to be an AARP member from Western PA, who loved to “play golf”, taking roughly 20 golf trips each year. Paul further explained that he had been looking for a business that would allow him to pay for his golf vacation life style without having to use his savings (which he estimated to cost him around $75K per year) when he decided to become a distributor. Paul then shared with me that he was beginning his 3rd year, he had 80 clients and and he was the 7th US distributor. He said last month, his commission check for roughly $17,000, and his niece does most of the work now. He talked a lot about the sales cycle, getting past the gatekeepers, etc. Nice enough guy, he was well spoken, but it seemed a little good good to be true.
Bill called me back and had similar things to say about the company. He claimed to have 78 clients and his last month's commission check was for $31,289. He targeted personal trainers and claimed they were extremely successful at convincing their clients to buy into the system. He said the science was sound, there were no complaints about the company practices that he was aware of. He said there were plenty of information available on the companies website to convince the health care professionals of the "science" and if needed experts for them to speak with.
As planned, I spoke with Joe later that day to allow Joe to give me the webinar “presentation”. I was the only one on the "webinar" and I listened. We got through the presentation which included being instructed to log onto the company's website (www.milleniumwellness.com/career) to show me a dummy or simulated client login site which contained dummy test results from their lab for demonstration purposes. He also showed me the webpage, www.yourhealthymeals.com that was their latest venture. The presentation ended rather abruptly, and he said if I was still interested to call him back and we would discuss the next steps.
After the presentation, I wanted to believe that this was the real thing and I was planning to call Joe back to continue the investigation and ask for some more people to speak with. Before I could get to that, he called me and said that "they" had decided to temporarily halt bringing on new distributors until April, he said "they" determined they were growing too fast. He would call me back in April then to see if I was still interested. I sensed he wanted me to perhaps "beg" him for a chance to invest, and I half expect him to call me back very soon, and tell me that he could make an exception and somehow fit me in.
This morning, I started doing my “due diligence” now with a little more information I received from the webinar and I quickly found the connection to the various other companies listed above and the numerous complaints. I found the exact same web pages, listed under different URLs. The "scam" seems to be running for the last three years. The basic methods haven't changed, only the names of the companies.
I am lucky that I did not lose any money here. Without the information I uncovered in Ripoff Report, I would be pursuing this further. I really do wish I was wrong, the business model seems viable, but this seems to be nothing but a scam.
This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 02/15/2011 10:38 AM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Millennium-Wellness/DEERFIELD-BEACH-Florida-33442/Millennium-Wellness-Sun-Health-Systems-sunhealthsystemscom-United-Medical-Network-prog-695602. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.
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