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Complaint Review: Milling Away And Starbucks Coffee

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  • Submitted: Wed, March 29, 2006
  • Updated: Fri, June 26, 2009

  • Reported By:chicago Illinois
Milling Away And Starbucks Coffee
124 Darrow Rd Akron, Ohio U.S.A.
  • Phone: 330-794-6591
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  • Category: Employers

Milling Away And Starbucks Coffee didnt pay me for work completed ripoff Akron Ohio Ohio

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: 2 employees listed for milling away?!

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Your kidding right!?

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Your kidding right!?

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Your kidding right!?

*UPDATE Employee: RE: MARIANNE SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO POST FALSE STATEMENTS

*UPDATE Employee: MARIANNE SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO POST FALSE STATEMENTS

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: GLAD TO SEE THIS TRASH COMPANY KNOWS HOW TO READ A CONTRACT

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: GLAD TO SEE THIS TRASH COMPANY KNOWS HOW TO READ A CONTRACT

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: GLAD TO SEE THIS TRASH COMPANY KNOWS HOW TO READ A CONTRACT

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: GLAD TO SEE THIS TRASH COMPANY KNOWS HOW TO READ A CONTRACT

*Consumer Comment: I HATE FRAUD

*UPDATE Employee: Milling Away And Starbucks Coffee- Response

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Milling Away stands behind its work and employees

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: I have a suit against them...

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Milling Away LLC - Owners Steve Harvey and Victoria Fair - Will RIP YOU OFF

*Consumer Comment: its called good business ethics

*Consumer Suggestion: You HAVE Rights

*Consumer Comment: Starbucks shouldn't have been mentioned at all

*Consumer Comment: Starbucks shouldn't have been mentioned at all

*Consumer Comment: Starbucks shouldn't have been mentioned at all

*Consumer Comment: Why did you title.......

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My husband was contracted by milling away to install corian countertops at all the starbucks coffee restaurants in the chicago and wisconsin and some indiana ares in total 105 stores. My husband completed they loved the work that my husband did for them.

Then (steve harvey) owner of milling away starts telling us he is not gonna pay the $7000.00 dollars that is owed to him because we had no ins, which he knew from the beginning and said it wouldnt be no problem at all.

Then when it's time for payment he states can't pay because contract stated we need own ins,and that starbucks had not paid him yet either, which I found out was a lie he got paid upfront for the job that my husband did and not only did he complete but he was also injured on the job too.

I contacted starbucks coffee and they said that he didn't know that milling away he contracted anyone else and that we had to deal with milling away since they hired us.

So you see my husband and I have had a lot of tribulations in growing up but all we are trying to do is provide for our 2 children and have somthing to show for all our hard work, to have a liar and a theif like steve harvey come along and rip us off.

We did the job 100% and everyone loved my husbands work even steve (milling away) but he still tried to scare us and then strong arm us about the law and contracts but he knew from the beginning thats he wasnt going to pay us. He used us to get paid well over $40.000 from starbucks and we got nothing unfair.

Please help. I would love for this story to go public so people can see how the big man uses the little guys for their own personal gain. Thank-you for listening.

Karen
chicago, Illinois
U.S.A.

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 03/29/2006 01:21 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Milling-Away-And-Starbucks-Coffee/Akron-Ohio/Milling-Away-And-Starbucks-Coffee-didnt-pay-me-for-work-completed-ripoff-Akron-Ohio-Ohio-183943. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 UPDATE EX-employee responds

2 employees listed for milling away?!

AUTHOR: Marianne - (U.S.A.)

Wow, you two must be swamped making all the products and finding the time to search the many responses on ripoff report!! What a joke! Stop hiding behind the name "Management". I thought maybe to just forget about the whole thing but not now. P.S. I don't need for you to instruct me on how this website works, thanks and I don't need them to stand behind me either, I have a judgment against milling away for that.
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#2 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Your kidding right!?

AUTHOR: Marianne - (U.S.A.)

Everthing I said is true and it isn't slanderous if it is true. I have a lawsuit that I won against milling away and guess what, no one from milling away showed up at court! I was told by the Akron Courts that they did go bankrupt. Yes, I know the truth hurts and I have been contacted by others who have been stiffed by your wonderful company. Hey, why not sue me for slander and then I will be able to collect on my lawsuit from not getting paid. I still have the court papers and would welcome a response. Don't worry my husband is a construction superintendent for a big company and I will continue to spread the word on what a fine company milling away is.
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#3 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Your kidding right!?

AUTHOR: Marianne - (U.S.A.)

Everthing I said is true and it isn't slanderous if it is true. I have a lawsuit that I won against milling away and guess what, no one from milling away showed up at court! I was told by the Akron Courts that they did go bankrupt. Yes, I know the truth hurts and I have been contacted by others who have been stiffed by your wonderful company. Hey, why not sue me for slander and then I will be able to collect on my lawsuit from not getting paid. I still have the court papers and would welcome a response. Don't worry my husband is a construction superintendent for a big company and I will continue to spread the word on what a fine company milling away is.
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#4 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Your kidding right!?

AUTHOR: Marianne - (U.S.A.)

Everthing I said is true and it isn't slanderous if it is true. I have a lawsuit that I won against milling away and guess what, no one from milling away showed up at court! I was told by the Akron Courts that they did go bankrupt. Yes, I know the truth hurts and I have been contacted by others who have been stiffed by your wonderful company. Hey, why not sue me for slander and then I will be able to collect on my lawsuit from not getting paid. I still have the court papers and would welcome a response. Don't worry my husband is a construction superintendent for a big company and I will continue to spread the word on what a fine company milling away is.
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#5 UPDATE Employee

RE: MARIANNE SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO POST FALSE STATEMENTS

AUTHOR: Management - (U.S.A.)

Making false statements about other people and businesses is wrong, it is unlawful, and it is prohibited by the Rip-off Report Terms of Service. If you break these rules, you can face significant liability and Rip-off Report can't and won't protect you if you make statements on this site which are defamatory.
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#6 UPDATE Employee

MARIANNE SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO POST FALSE STATEMENTS

AUTHOR: Management - (U.S.A.)

Personally - if I were Marrrianne I would not be so eager to post false information. In my opinion that could be considered slander.

When you post a comment, you agree that the posted information is valid and true, not false.
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#7 UPDATE EX-employee responds

GLAD TO SEE THIS TRASH COMPANY KNOWS HOW TO READ A CONTRACT

AUTHOR: Marianne - (U.S.A.)

Give me a break! This company does nothing but rip people off. Steve and Vicky are trash and owe me money and plenty of others. Stop with how good and honest they are!!! How many times can one person go bankrupt? I found out I got my unemployment benefits off of his dead wife who used to own one of his companies?! WHAT A SICK JERK!! I am still spreading the word on how they rip people off and so are plenty of other folks.
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#8 UPDATE EX-employee responds

GLAD TO SEE THIS TRASH COMPANY KNOWS HOW TO READ A CONTRACT

AUTHOR: Marianne - (U.S.A.)

Give me a break! This company does nothing but rip people off. Steve and Vicky are trash and owe me money and plenty of others. Stop with how good and honest they are!!! How many times can one person go bankrupt? I found out I got my unemployment benefits off of his dead wife who used to own one of his companies?! WHAT A SICK JERK!! I am still spreading the word on how they rip people off and so are plenty of other folks.
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#9 UPDATE EX-employee responds

GLAD TO SEE THIS TRASH COMPANY KNOWS HOW TO READ A CONTRACT

AUTHOR: Marianne - (U.S.A.)

Give me a break! This company does nothing but rip people off. Steve and Vicky are trash and owe me money and plenty of others. Stop with how good and honest they are!!! How many times can one person go bankrupt? I found out I got my unemployment benefits off of his dead wife who used to own one of his companies?! WHAT A SICK JERK!! I am still spreading the word on how they rip people off and so are plenty of other folks.
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#10 UPDATE EX-employee responds

GLAD TO SEE THIS TRASH COMPANY KNOWS HOW TO READ A CONTRACT

AUTHOR: Marianne - (U.S.A.)

Give me a break! This company does nothing but rip people off. Steve and Vicky are trash and owe me money and plenty of others. Stop with how good and honest they are!!! How many times can one person go bankrupt? I found out I got my unemployment benefits off of his dead wife who used to own one of his companies?! WHAT A SICK JERK!! I am still spreading the word on how they rip people off and so are plenty of other folks.
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#11 Consumer Comment

I HATE FRAUD

AUTHOR: John Smith - (U.S.A.)

KAREN, AS MUCH AS I HATE COMPANIES THAT RIPOFF CONSUMERS/EMPLOYEES, I HATE BOGUS CLAIMS THAT BLAME GOOD,HONEST COMPANIES WHERE NO WRONGDOING OCCURED.

YOU AND YOUR HUSBAND BOTH SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES. YOU CAN FOOL SOME OF THE PEOPLE SOME OF THE TIME.....

YOU TRIED TO BE "SLICK" AND GOT YOUR JUST DESSERTS.
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Milling Away And Starbucks Coffee- Response

AUTHOR: Management - (U.S.A.)

We had hoped that Karen would be responsible enough to remove a report that is so erroneous with miss-truths in respect to the contractual arrangement of her husband's company and Milling Away, LLC but since she did notour response follows as below:

Milling Away, LLC entered into a contract with your company on 10/24/05, for the installation of Solid Surface Counter tops in various Starbucks locations. Our contract has some very specific terms and conditions that you agreed to and signed on 10/24/05. You seem to think you and our company should just ignore the terms and conditions, and we should in fact agree with any deviations to the same that you deem appropriate. Let's us review some of the same, as follows;

Ref: Paragraph #1, Completion Date
It was agreed in the contract, that the installation of tops would be completed by 11/25/05. In fact your final installation, was sometime in January. There were several site installations that you had tops for, that you did not install. We had to make other arrangements for the completion of the contracted project. Therefore you in fact did not complete the work 100%, and Milling Away was penalized financially for the same. You failed to meet an agreed upon installation and completion schedule. You also never returned all of Milling Away product for the project.

Ref: Paragraph #4, Authority
It was agreed that you would indemnify and hold Milling Away, LLC and it's Customer harmless against any claims, and you in fact filed a Worker's Compensation claim against both Starbucks and Milling Away , of which was inappropriate due to the fact that you were an independent contractor and responsible for obtaining Worker's Compensation on your own.

Ref: Paragraph #5, Insurance
Our contract is quite clear that no payments would be made until appropriate insurance was in place by you, which included; General Liability Insurance and Worker's Compensation Insurance. We repeatedly asked for the same both verbally and in writing, on numerous occasions. You promised several times to have the same in place but then failed to produce either proof of insurance (which you originally were suppose to have prior to starting any work). To date we have received neither, and you did in fact file a Worker's Compensation claim against us and our customer.

Ref: Paragraph #8, Compensation
We did in fact pay you $3000 on the contract prior to the completion of the contract, to try and help you through the project that was above and beyond the agreed terms. You had agreed that a portion of the funds would be used to put required insurance in place, and obviously you elected to use the funds for other means.

Ref: Paragraph #11, Independent Contractor
It was agreed that you were an independent contractor, and be responsible for any tax liabilities, including Workers Compensation. With you filing a Worker's Compensation claim against Milling Away, LLC and our customer, it is obvious that this also was not adhered to by your company.

Ref: Paragraph #22, Relationship
It was agreed that you would not contact our customer in anyway, including any type of third party. In fact this has occurred through direct contact with our customers as well as through your Worker's Compensation claim and aspects of the same. This has in fact caused Milling Away, LLC damages to its relationship with the customer. Further we had a confidentiality clause in the contract in regard to your relationship with Milling Away, LLC, which again has been obviated in your contact with our customer.

Ref: Paragraph #24, Contractor Agrees
It was agreed that you would be responsible for our products and any damages that may occur to them during your handling of the same. Thirteen damaged tops at a replacement value of $6800. You also did not return all Milling Away's product that was entrusted to you for installation. It was further agreed that if sub has any loss or damage that sub agrees to offset for the value.

Payments to Milling Away, LLC
Milling Away, LLC did not receive payment in full for product/services rendered for this project, due to the failure of your company to complete in agreed upon time fashion, and failure to complete the contract in total.

Payments to your company
We offered and sent final payment (in addition to the previous payments) on 11/15/06 via certified mail for what services were rendered, to what we know as your current address and the same was returned as refused.

To Conclude
You signed a contract of which; you agreed to the terms and conditions but did not adhere to, never supplied all of the documentation required and did not complete the work in accordance with the agreement.
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#13 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Milling Away stands behind its work and employees

AUTHOR: Denny - (U.S.A.)

I am not responsible for this blog of negative connotation. I believe this to have been written and placed by others. I do not agree with its contents , and it has been my experience that Milling Away stands behind its work and employees.
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#14 UPDATE EX-employee responds

I have a suit against them...

AUTHOR: Marianne - (U.S.A.)

I was an employee of milling away llc and was not paid by steve or victoria. I took them to court and won a judgment against them but was unable to collect because I was told that milling away went bankrupt. Apparently they are still doing business. I have talked to attorneys but can't seem to get anywhere. Why is he allowed to continue to do business?
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#15 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Milling Away LLC - Owners Steve Harvey and Victoria Fair - Will RIP YOU OFF

AUTHOR: Dennis - (U.S.A.)

Milling Away LLC (Previously Commercial Maintenance and Repair) SEE Better Business Bureau for shocking report "C.M.R. neglected to pay for work that had been subcontracted out to various businesses. The amounts owed range from $40.00 to $40,000."

Owners: Steve Harvey and Victoria Fair - Married

New Physical Address for collection attempts:
395 Geneva Ave.
Tallmadge, OH 44278

Hours: 6 - 5pm EST (plus weekends)
Cars: Tan SUV - small Grey sports car
Phone: (330) 634-9333
Fax: (330) 634-9331
Company E-mail: MillingAway@gmail.net or victoriaf@millingaway.net
Web Site: www.millingaway.net and www.millingawayllc.com

Total Number of employees = 2

I would suggest you do your own civil case docket search throughout the counties of Ohio, Chicago, PA, etc. The results are very long and interesting.

Steve Harvey and Victoria (aka Tori) think they are above the law by playing shadow games to contractually position themselves in a way to fabricate lies and RIP YOU OFF while operating off your money.

TIP: If you think you have a case... contact the prosecuting attorneys office near this companies address for some basic free advise...
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#16 Consumer Comment

its called good business ethics

AUTHOR: Karen - (U.S.A.)

thank-you all who gave feedback on my ripoff report however yes starbucks is responsible we were hired as sub-contractor in illinois that means that the orignal contractor are resonsible for insurance not us, my husband is a small business 5 employess max we just do small projects this was our chance to make a name for our co, and it backfired i guess, all we want is what is owed to us, so yes i think we will file a lien against milling away and starbucks thank-you
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#17 Consumer Suggestion

You HAVE Rights

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

I'll bet $1000 to a dime that Milling will pay in a flash if you say the magic word. That word is "LIEN" Remodeled a Footlocker into a Christopher & Banks store and the contractor stiffed me too. Everyone loved the workmanship too. Soon as i told them I was putting a mechanics lien against the job they bitched and howled..AND PAID!! Your husband signed no contract with Starbucks so Lien them and you WILL get paid.
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#18 Consumer Comment

Starbucks shouldn't have been mentioned at all

AUTHOR: Scott - (U.S.A.)

Why are you blaming Starbucks? They hired a contractor to do a job, then the contractor sub-contracted to your husband. Starbucks was correct when they said they couldn't help you.

Why are you operating a business without insurance? Since your husband is self-employed, any injuries he incurs while working cannot be held against the contractor.
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#19 Consumer Comment

Starbucks shouldn't have been mentioned at all

AUTHOR: Scott - (U.S.A.)

Why are you blaming Starbucks? They hired a contractor to do a job, then the contractor sub-contracted to your husband. Starbucks was correct when they said they couldn't help you.

Why are you operating a business without insurance? Since your husband is self-employed, any injuries he incurs while working cannot be held against the contractor.
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#20 Consumer Comment

Starbucks shouldn't have been mentioned at all

AUTHOR: Scott - (U.S.A.)

Why are you blaming Starbucks? They hired a contractor to do a job, then the contractor sub-contracted to your husband. Starbucks was correct when they said they couldn't help you.

Why are you operating a business without insurance? Since your husband is self-employed, any injuries he incurs while working cannot be held against the contractor.
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#21 Consumer Comment

Why did you title.......

AUTHOR: D - (U.S.A.)

Why did you title this as "Starbucks didn't pay ME" where it should be "Starbucks didn't pay MY HUSBAND"? Or "My HUSBAND'S WORK"? Please respond
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