- Report: #325431
Complaint Review: Motivated Moms/Melaleuca/www.MaryMyrick.com
| Motivated Moms/Melaleuca/www.MaryMyrick.com 3910 S. Yellowstone Hwy.
Idaho Falls, Idaho U.S.A. |
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Motivated Moms/ Melaleuca/ WWW.MARYMYRICK.COM Lied to by Motivated Mom, Mary Myrick, Melaleuca will not take responsibility for her lies! Idaho Falls Idaho
*General Comment: Marymyrick
*Consumer Comment: Melaleuca NOT a Scam.
*Consumer Comment: Melaleuca, Why I love them.
*General Comment: Thank you Andrea
*General Comment: Thank you Andrea!!!
*UPDATE Employee: PROUD MOTIVATED MOM FOR ALMOST 2 YEARS
*Consumer Suggestion: I have been with Motivated Moms for 2 years now.
*Consumer Comment: Melaluca is a SCAM
*Consumer Comment: Why do people think they will get paid big money for doing nothing???
*Consumer Suggestion: A few bad apples...
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: I too am a Melaleuca Victim! I lost my home due to their dishonesty!
*Consumer Comment: The meaning of "No Sales"
*UPDATE Employee: Sympathetic
*UPDATE Employee: Andrea feel your pain!
*UPDATE Employee: Andrea feel your pain!
*UPDATE Employee: Andrea feel your pain!
*Author of original report: I am now being retaliated against for filing my Rip off Report!
*UPDATE Employee: Comments
*REBUTTAL Individual responds: LADY DISABLED ON DISABILITY DOESN'T UNDERSTAND
*Consumer Comment: Inconsistent
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As I mentioned above I spoke with Mary on more than one occasion prior to joining. Mary told me that my commission would be 20% on each monthly order for every person under me every month. She also told me that her enroller got a check for $900 last month and has only been with the company two months. Mary knew that I only wanted to work part-time at this.
I was informed prior to joining that I would have to place a minimum order each month for the Melaleuca products. At this point I was hesitant to join. I told Mary that I was concerned about this and that I was afraid of losing money if I did not like the products or if the business did not go as planned for me. She assured me that Melaleuca had a 60 Day Money back guarantee and told me that I could even return empty bottles to Melaleuca for a FULL refund! She stated that I would get all of my money back because that is just how good Melaleucas money back guarantee is. I was led to believe that they were going to save me money, were less expensive, and were of better quality than Wal-marts products. In addition to this I was told how great the products were by Mary. She told me that I would love Sol-u-mel and Sol-u-guard. She stated that they smelled so good. She told me that Melaleucas dryer sheets were so powerful that you could use them twice each! When my first order arrived I was terribly disappointed! The Sol-u-guard and Sol-u-mel stunk to high heaven! At no time did Mary tell me that they were made with Tea Tree Oil! My Husband and I both hate the smell of Tea Tree Oil! After smelling the Sol-u-mel and Sol-u-guard, My Husband got upset and told me never to use those products in our home! Not that I blame him because I am not very fond of the smell either. My Mother told me that those products made our house smell like a hospital and she hates the smell of a hospital. I tried the dryer sheets as Mary recommended and they were too worn out after the first use to re-use again! None of the products that I purchased impressed me at all. I did not find them to be of fine quality as Mary or Melaleuca claimed that they would be. In my opinion they were no better than the products that I purchase at Wal-mart for a third of the price. Not to mention the fact that with Melaleuca you have to purchase the spray bottles and pumps separately so you are having to spend even more money instead of saving money as I was told. When Mary told me that I would receive a FULL refund and that I would get all of my money back this led me to believe that I would also be refunded my shipping as well as Melaleuca paying the shipping for the return of the products to them for a refund which when I called Melaleuca I found out that this was not the case at all! As a matter of fact, I had a rude awakening when I called Melaleuca. Not only am I responsible for the shipping but I also have to purchase tracking so that I know when the package is received by Melaleuca and then I have to call them back because it is NOT their policy to refund the money directly back to my Debit Card as I have requested! It is Melaleucas policy to refund the money to my Melaleuca account and then I have to call again after the products are received by them and request that the money be put back on my Debit Card! I asked the Melaleuca Representative on the phone how long it would take to refund my money to my Debit Card and was only further upset because she could not give me a time frame! Mary should have told me this! I would have never joined if I knew that it would be such a hassle to get my money back! I also found out that you cannot return empty bottles as Mary stated to me that you could. It says right on the back of your invoice that you must return the unused portions in order to receive a refund! So now I have to pay to ship two boxes one with heavy products weighing approximately 28 pounds back to Melaleuca! Mary made it sound so easy to return every thing when that is not the case at all with Melaleuca.
Now back to Mary's claim of "No Selling!" One of the first things that Mary told me after joining was that I should get my Mother to order products. Then in the New Mom Meeting the moderator was instructing us to get our family and friends to purchase Melaleuca products. I don't know about you but that sure sounds like sales to me! Now this brings me to the "No Costly Investment" claim. During the hour long meeting the moderator tried to convince us "New Moms" to purchase the "Value Pack" or "Career Pack." These packs cost approximately $200 and $300 each! She told us that we needed to try all of the products so that when we get a New Mom and she asks about a particular product that we can tell her that we have used it and convince her to purchase it and raise our commission. Well, if you are making a commission then isn't that making a sale? Don't you have to make a sale in order to receive a commission? Aren't you "selling" the New Mom on the product in order to make a commission? In my opinion you are "investing" money if you are trying products so that you can tell other people to buy them and $200-$300 is costly to me on my budget! Mary also sent me a document titled "Tax Advantages of the Melaleuca Business" via email telling me what I could deduct on my taxes as a business expense. It stated that my monthly purchases, value pack, and career packs were business expenses and could be deducted the explanation for this was due to the fact that.
In order to understand and market Melaleuca's unique products, you need to use them yourself. I just looked up marketing in the dictionary and the definition is the act of buying or selling in a market. So therefore it is a sales job! In addition to this I later found out that my job title was Marketing Executive so I do not understand how Mary's website can legally state "No Sales" and be truthful.
Back to the claim of "No Costly Investment." I do not know about you but my time costs money. Not to mention the fact that in the New Moms Meeting they tell you to make up posters, flyers, and business cards. They tell you to post them everywhere and get your name out there. They tell you that the more a person sees these that the more curious that they will become and that they have to see these over and over again before they will build up the courage to call. So if you are buying products every month, purchase a Value pack, having business cards, flyers, posters printed up not counting your time to distribute these items then it all ads up! This sure seems costly to me!
Now I will address Mary's claim that I would be making 20% commission. Later, after joining I found inconsistencies with this. I was told different things by different people with the company. In my first Moms meeting the moderator stated that it was 14% for the first person that you first signed up and then another team leader claimed that it was up to 20%. After I received my business pack from Melaleuca and looked over the materials that I received I found that it was only 7% to start. Had I been told the truth from the beginning I would have never joined.
I find it awfully convenient that Mary would never email me a copy of the compensation plan as I requested numerous times. After joining I went to the message boards and found a posting by Mary's enroller. As I mentioned earlier Mary stated that her enroller received a check for $900 last month which was her second month as a Motivated Mom. In that posting I would find that Mary's enroller puts in approximately 16 hours a day! That is less than minimum wage! Me and my husband sat down and did some figuring. If this person works only 5 days a week at 16 hours a day and only received $900 a month then that is less than $3 an hour. Had Mary been totally honest with me I would have never joined because my time is worth more to me than $3 an hour! She did not tell me that you have to put a lot into the business to get anything back out of it. She did not tell me that if I only worked at it part-time that I would have to keep investing in a product order each month and would not see results right away as her enroller has because she invests 16 hours a day into this business. I remember telling her when I joined that I was scammed by another company that only paid me $5 a lead and that I had put in 12 hours days and made nothing at it. She should have warned me that I would have to work long hours like her enroller with Motivated Moms in order to quickly see a profit prior to my joining. I should have been told that I would not make any money in Motivated Moms/Melaleuca until I made it to Director level.
If this wasn't enough Mary promised to help me build my business with Motivated Moms. She told me that Motivated Moms was a team of Moms working together. I understand that she was new and that the other Moms would have to help me a lot because she was new and they did. But the straw that broke the camels back was that I asked her if she was going to attend the "New Moms" meeting with me and she told me that she was. But when it came time to attend I Instant Messaged her and she did not answer. Then she appeared to quickly log off. I was left to attend the meeting by myself and was not only disappointed and hurt by this but also embarrassed when all of the other new Moms were introduced by their enroller and I had to introduce myself. I felt very small and like only a monthly commission check to Mary at this point. I had hoped to later receive an email explaining her absence but did not. I understand her being new and all but why couldn't she at least attend the meeting with me? All she would have to do is be there and introduce me to the group. How hard is that? Why did she even tell me that she was going to attend if she was not? If something came up she could have emailed me and she did not. I found that I could not depend on Mary for anything. It was the next day when I put everything together and decided that Motivated Moms and Melaleuca was not for me and quit.
Today, I went to the post office to mail everything back to Melaleuca and had to pay $33.27! You might be wondering how it cost me $33.27? I know I was shocked when I got the bill. It cost me $5.21 to send a certified letter to Melaleuca stopping them from charging my card with the Monthly Orders. Then it was another $8.23 to ship back my business kit Parcel post (4th class mail) not to mention another .75 for delivery confirmation (tracking) and then another $18.33 to ship 28lbs of products back Parcel Post to Melaleuca and again another .75 for Delivery Confirmation.
After leaving the post office I went and ran errands. Upon returning to my home I found the 28lb package of products returned to me in a garbage bag! When I called the post office and asked what happened and why was it returned to me I was told that it leaked all over their floor and that it could not be shipped that way. Now I have to re-package the products and pay another $19.08 to ship it back to Melaleuca and pray that it gets there!
So now I am out a total of $62.42 in shipping charges alone! This includes $10.07 for Melaleuca to ship the products to me, $33.27 at the post office today, and now I have to pay another $19.08 to re-ship the products to Melaleuca because they will not allow me to return empty bottles for a refund like Mary told me that they would prior to my joining Motivated Moms/Melaleuca. In addition to this, I have to wait and track the packages and after their arrival back to Melaleuca I have to call Melaleuca and ask them to place my credit on my debit card instead of leaving it in my Melaleuca account! Wish me luck! I hope that this Rip off Report will prevent someone else from making the same mistake I made in joining Motivated Moms/ Melaleuca.
Andrea
Orlando, Florida
U.S.A.
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Marymyrick
AUTHOR: Magic - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, February 12, 2013
POSTED: Tuesday, February 12, 2013#2 Consumer Comment
Melaleuca NOT a Scam.
AUTHOR: tony4wellness - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 02, 2011
POSTED: Sunday, October 02, 2011#3 Consumer Comment
Melaleuca, Why I love them.
AUTHOR: tony4wellness - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, September 22, 2011
POSTED: Thursday, September 22, 2011fail to order your 35 product point commitment does it come into play, this is explained during the presentation and should have been explained by the person who invited you as I do. It is better than Auto Ship Programs with other company out there, wherein the same products each and every month is shipped because all they have to offer is a limited number of products. With Melaleuca, There are more than 350 consumable products to choose from. So, Auto Ship Program dont work. As far as the 35 points commitment to get products at wholesale is nothing, just switch stores do your shopping at
Melaleuca. I have NOT ordered lesser than 64 points each and every month that I have been with them. Second, like amazon, Ebay or any other sites that do business except for companies that issues RMA (electronics), shipping and handling are services rendered or when you return products you pay.
The question is, when you have used up your vitamins for 90 days and decide that they dont work or didnt FEEL any improvement or energy, can you return them? With Melaleuca, YES up to 90 days warranty, no questions asked. Third, I paid $29.- to join Melaleuca for the promise of non-chemical base products and it did make my family healthier with Natural based products, in fact my grandson who had asthma for 6yrs. was healed just by using their detergent. Added to that, the revenue sharing program has helped me, I made an extra $21,978". for a $29'. investment, if you calculate, even if you spend $70 or 35 points for products that my family uses which is not part of cost of doing business, we come out way ahead?. And even if, I didnt make money, just with the deduction on my schedule C, because I did signed up also to become an Independent Marketing Executive with them and it was worth it!. Value of products was my main concern; addition income was a pleasant surprise?. I welcome any questions about Melaleuca which is now a part of me and my family as a Blessing|. I help moms, dads & people to succeed with Melaleuca which has changed thier lives, That's good Right? Email me at: tony4wellness@gmail?.com or call me at 408-771-0296?.
God Bless!
#4 General Comment
Thank you Andrea
AUTHOR: Izzy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, September 02, 2011
POSTED: Friday, September 02, 2011#5 General Comment
Thank you Andrea!!!
AUTHOR: costagirl79 - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, December 07, 2009
POSTED: Monday, December 07, 2009#6 UPDATE Employee
PROUD MOTIVATED MOM FOR ALMOST 2 YEARS
AUTHOR: Amanda with Motivated Moms - (Canada)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, November 19, 2009
POSTED: Thursday, November 19, 2009"Instead of helping me build my business as she promised Mary only helped me out of my time and money."
I'm also sorry that you had an enroller who did not provide you with help. Perhaps her enroller or team leader didn't provide her with the proper training.
HOWEVER, we all get a membership kit that includes all the info we need so failing to read this will of course negatively impact your experience. You would have been attempting to build a business without the proper knowledge to do so.
"Now I am stuck with red tape to go through to get my money back along with outrageous shipping and tracking fees."
I don't know what "Red Tape" you're talking about. People are free to cancel their Melaleuca account whenever they want. It's a simple process and they provide 60 day money back guarantee on all products.
"The Sol-u-guard and Sol-u-mel stunk to high heaven"
Sol U Guard has a new formula, it's made from Thyme oil and smells nice - Better than LYSOL and no harsh chemicals.
Sol u Mel has Melaleuca Oil in it - and yes Melaleuca oil has a strong smell - but so does Pine Sol or Mr. Clean, etc...
The fact that MELALEUCA is a type of tea tree oil is RIGHT in the presentation AND your membership kit which would have been mailed to you.
"None of the products that I purchased impressed me at all. I did not find them to be of fine quality as Mary or Melaleuca claimed that they would be. In my opinion they were no better than the products that I purchase at Wal-mart for a third of the price."
I have been a customer for almost 2 years and LOVE their products. It sounds to me like you were LOOKING for negative things so you can have an excuse to get out and QUIT.
In regards to the Refund policy:
I have customers who have returned products they didn't enjoy and Melaleuca gladly not only refunded their money but also paid for the shipping.
" I don't know about you but that sure sounds like sales to me! "
Helping your friends & family have a HEALTHIER life and SAFER products should be at your #1 list of people to tell about Melaleuca shouldn't it?
Melaleuca can help with:
Allergies
Asthma
arthritis
digestive issues
eye health
heart health
weight loss
just to name a few.
This is not a "SALES JOB" . This is about HELPING people have a better life, HELPING the environment and HELPING others work from home.
In regards to commissions:
"After I received my business pack from Melaleuca and looked over the materials that I received I found that it was only 7% to start."
AGAIN the commissions are IN THE PRESENTATION.
20% for the first month your new customer shops
7% every month after that until you are a Director
14% on all your personals
20% on all your personal referrals once you have 20 people enrolled
Also 7% for 7 generations of referrals.
I have looked into MANY different compensation plans this was THE BEST I found.
You had a bad experience, and I do apologize for that. BUT don't ASSUME that Motivated Moms or Melaleuca is a Rip OFF simply based on one person's experience.
What about me??? what about My team leader and hers? WE HAVE ALL HAD SUCCESS. I know of HUNDREDS of people who've had success.
HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of people have a healthier life due to Melaleuca's products.
My health is better, my family's health is better, the VITAMINS have changed our lives.
I have SAFE cleaning products in my home and that is a GREAT feeling as a mom.
There is NO WAY I would go back to using other shampoo, conditions, body washes, makeup, etc...that are FILLED with chemicals and toxins.
I WILL BE A MELALEUCA CUSTOMER FOR LIFE.
If you're willing to WORK and be POSITIVE then you'll do very well with any home business, including Motivated Moms.
Amanda
PROUD MOTIVATED MOM SINCE JANUARY 2008
#7 Consumer Suggestion
I have been with Motivated Moms for 2 years now.
AUTHOR: Motivated Mom - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, December 06, 2008
POSTED: Saturday, December 06, 2008#8 Consumer Comment
Melaluca is a SCAM
AUTHOR: Laurie - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, November 20, 2008
POSTED: Thursday, November 20, 2008I researched them on the internet and spoke to several very desperate people trying to add me to their downline. Desperation in their voices came through loud and clear. The only way to make any money in Melaluca is to get new distributors to sign up. You make money only off the product THEY ARE REQUIRED TO BUY in order to be able to sell it.
TOO MANY PEOPLE ARE SELLING MELALUCA - so it is next to impossible to generate website customers to your new site. Your family and friends will soon tire of you trying to sell to them, because no one else is buying.
Melaluca also claims their products work for everyone - NOT TRUE.
THE ONLY PEOPLE MAKING MONEY ARE THOSE WHO STARTED EARLY and they make money off of everyone who came in after they did. Classic Pyramid Scheme.
I'm sure that was not the intent at first but that is what it became.
any business that requires you buy the product in order to sell it is a PYRAMID SCHEME.
#9 Consumer Comment
Why do people think they will get paid big money for doing nothing???
AUTHOR: Tina - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, November 20, 2008
POSTED: Thursday, November 20, 2008It is amazing to me how naive people are and it is never their fault!! I shop with Melaleuca and have not had one problem. But then again, I took the time to read the website. The products are safer and better than the junk you can buy at Wal-Mart. But a lot of people don't really care what kind of chemicals they put into their house, as long as they COST less!
Unhappy, naive people should not be allowed to post such garbage on websites like this.
#10 Consumer Suggestion
A few bad apples...
AUTHOR: Ray Wellman Nh Team Vitality - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, September 03, 2008
POSTED: Wednesday, September 03, 2008I can't believe tea tree oil was never mentioned (I mean I do believe it, I'm just shocked). Melaleuca Alterfolia is the botanical name for tea tree. That is where we get our name. I think where we get our name is a pretty cool thing. You are right, not everybody likes the smell of tea tree oil, but a lot do too.
I can't say much about the refund, other than I don't think it is unreasonable to expect to pay shipping. Nor is it unreasonable for it to take several weeks for your account to be credited. It takes 6-8 weeks for mail in rebate checks to arrive and that is just a slip of paper. A box of products has to be handled checked in logged etc. You are probably one of thousands of product returns every month. I am sure you will get your money back for the products, unfortunately these things take time. Our cancelled customers show up on our report the very next month, as they should. We have never had a customer who had trouble cancelling their membership.
Sorry you had this kind of experience. All of the information on the return policy and all of the other policies is included in the Membership kit you received. I always encourage everyone we enroll to read it thoroghly ( I know it is spelled wrong, lol) and ask questions.
Hope somebody reads this an can see that most people with Melaleuca are good honest people. Best of luck to you Andrea. You might want to leave town next year Aug 13-15, because Melaleuca will be having our annual convention in Orlando. Or better yet instead of leaving town, come to convention and see what we are really all about! :) Take care -
#11 UPDATE EX-employee responds
I too am a Melaleuca Victim! I lost my home due to their dishonesty!
AUTHOR: Lorene - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, August 18, 2008
POSTED: Monday, August 18, 2008I tried so many times to cancel my contract and yet they still continued to send their backup packages, each time costing me almost $30 dollars in shipping both ways since I disabled with degenerative joint disease and an autoimmune disorder and am not always home when the UPS would show, although I did have big signs on my door if package was from Melaleuca, I refuse it. (They would still leave the package). For 4 months they made me late and short on my rent until my landlord cancelled our lease due to that. Even after we lost our home, they still continue to charge my card! I am currentlly seeking to publicize this locally and nationally, as well as we are seeking an attorney who will take our case. Please hang in there, justice will prevail in the end! BEWARE OF MELALEUCA! I warn everyone who will give me 5 minutes of their time on a daily basis against this horrible company. And being disabled, I have NOTHING BUT TIME to do this! Word of mouth is how this company was started and as they say, he who lives by the sword, dies by the sword! If we all pull together and talk to at least 10 people a day (which was not even half of the people I used to talk to to sign people up for melaleuca) and warn them of this company, word of mouth will be the end of melaleuca in no time flat! I use what they taught me, patience and persistence (against them now). Thank you rip off report!
#12 Consumer Comment
The meaning of "No Sales"
AUTHOR: Suegil - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, July 07, 2008
POSTED: Monday, July 07, 2008The only thing they sell is a membership to the Melaleuca wellness company so the person/customer can purchase what they normally would on a monthly basis.
A marketing repesentative markets the company's preferred customer program and gathers customers for the company and in turn the company pays a percentage for their word of mouth advertising and even more for continued leadership. The company is always looking for new ways to improve the presentation so as to make sure that the consumer knows what they are getting into. They require a signature to cancel because a signature is required to become a customer and receive a discount.
Their products are great and the solumel and soluguard are very heavily scented by the melaleuca tea tree oil but pine sol and lysol also have strong smells. There are more things to do with the products than what they are intended for and I would never suggest to people to send their products back unless they don't care to be out shipping.
Melaleuca has a discount for their shipping because they don't charge by weight but if we ship back, it is by weight so it will cost more. The value pack and career pack are very discounted so that for the $199 pack you get $300 worth of products and the $299 pack you get over $400 worth of products so if you don't like some of the products you can give them away since they were in essence free. Most of the products are things people are already using anyway on a monthly basis. There is no risk in this way because all you are doing is trying products from a different company.
If you don't like them, don't buy them anymore. As for the mentoring, no company has any control over the people that represent them. All they can do is put good training into place and continually train. I think Melaleuca is the best company out there after being in 8-10 different companies over the last 13 years. I only work this company part-time or less. I should put a little more time into it but right now I would say only 5 hours a week. I make almost $500 per month because I have one other person in my business working too. I have steadily enrolled 1-2 people every month for almost 4 years and some have stayed and some have gone. My enroller left me after the 3rd month and I have gone uplineto get my training and get on fasttrack.
The company also has people in the home office who will train you if you don't have a mentor to work with. They are regional specialists and will even call me about every month or so just to see how I am doing in my business and give me strategies.
I have tried almost every product and I love them all. I didn't fall in love with every product the first time I tried it but the more I tried it the more I loved it and would never go back to the grocery store or Walmart for what Melaleuca makes. The cost is usually the same as the grocery store or Walmart but can't compete with dollar stores for the cost. The concentration much outweighs the diluted things that you get at the dollar stores and Melaleuca products are heathier for your environment than what you get anywhere. After changing over our cleaning and laundry products, our family has become allergy free after suffering for years.
#13 UPDATE Employee
Sympathetic
AUTHOR: Green Girl - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, June 13, 2008
POSTED: Friday, June 13, 2008Like the commissions I had no clue when i first joined that you recieved only 7% commision until you become director and that it's a commisson on Product points not dollar value. However because of the love of the products I continued to truck on and now have become very successful in my Melaleuca Business, only after leaving the Motivated Moms team and Building my own business with others close in my orginization. I was very fortunate to have a very trust worthy enroller and she didn't give me the run around and was very honest with me. Just remember that Motivated Moms is just a support group to help you advance your business and they are not actually part of Melaleuca.
And Honestly I am ashamed to say that i was a part of that and the fact that it reflects badly on such a wonderful company. Don't get me wrong not all Motivated moms are bad they are just duplicating what was taught to them. I passioniatly believe in Melaleuca, what they stand for, and their products. I will forever be a Melaleuca customer and I will always tell others about their products.
#14 UPDATE Employee
Andrea feel your pain!
AUTHOR: Greenirisheyes - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, May 10, 2008
POSTED: Saturday, May 10, 2008I know EXACTLY how you feel. I do not want to sit here and type out my entire experience with this company and their INDENDENT MARKETING EXECUTIVES!!! I posted a rebutal on another section of this board today. I too have been threatened and retaliated against for being lied to and ripped off and saying enough is enough. If you ever need someone to talk to about your experience feel free to contact me.
I hate to even say it but I am glad I have found out I am not the only one who is going through this.
I think it is very telling that the people who have responded to your post are from your "support team". Very supportive of them?!?!? Accusations and personal attacks are par for the course with the greedy people who are making money off people like you and me.
Good luck to you! I hope they get what they deserve in the end.
#15 UPDATE Employee
Andrea feel your pain!
AUTHOR: Greenirisheyes - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, May 10, 2008
POSTED: Saturday, May 10, 2008I know EXACTLY how you feel. I do not want to sit here and type out my entire experience with this company and their INDENDENT MARKETING EXECUTIVES!!! I posted a rebutal on another section of this board today. I too have been threatened and retaliated against for being lied to and ripped off and saying enough is enough. If you ever need someone to talk to about your experience feel free to contact me.
I hate to even say it but I am glad I have found out I am not the only one who is going through this.
I think it is very telling that the people who have responded to your post are from your "support team". Very supportive of them?!?!? Accusations and personal attacks are par for the course with the greedy people who are making money off people like you and me.
Good luck to you! I hope they get what they deserve in the end.
#16 UPDATE Employee
Andrea feel your pain!
AUTHOR: Greenirisheyes - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, May 10, 2008
POSTED: Saturday, May 10, 2008I know EXACTLY how you feel. I do not want to sit here and type out my entire experience with this company and their INDENDENT MARKETING EXECUTIVES!!! I posted a rebutal on another section of this board today. I too have been threatened and retaliated against for being lied to and ripped off and saying enough is enough. If you ever need someone to talk to about your experience feel free to contact me.
I hate to even say it but I am glad I have found out I am not the only one who is going through this.
I think it is very telling that the people who have responded to your post are from your "support team". Very supportive of them?!?!? Accusations and personal attacks are par for the course with the greedy people who are making money off people like you and me.
Good luck to you! I hope they get what they deserve in the end.
#17 Author of original report
I am now being retaliated against for filing my Rip off Report!
AUTHOR: Andrea - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, April 14, 2008
POSTED: Monday, April 14, 2008Mary claims that I have been threatening her when I have not. The only thing that could have been mistaken for a threat was when I asked her not to call me and not to have any of the other Motivated Moms call me because my husband is very angry about this whole ordeal and might tell them off. I only was only trying to prevent her from getting her feelings hurt any further and did not intend to threaten her in any way.
I was not trying to mislead anyone by not mentioning that Teddi has offered to reimburse me for the shipping. I do not know Teddi all that well and did not feel that it would be relevant information until I have received the check from her and it cleared the bank okay. I fully intended upon the clearing of that check to update my Rip Off Report to reflect the fact that Teddi had reimbursed me for my shipping costs and that I was no longer out of that money.
As far as Marys rebuttal I should have expected as much. She has twisted around a conversation that we had that was very personal and did not need public airing. My quitting Motivated Moms/Melaleuca had nothing to do with Social Security Disability except for possibly the fact that I cannot put in as many hours as it requires to make a profit because I am disabled. Had she of been honest with me in the first place I would have known that I was taking on more than I could handle and would not have risked losing money like I have.
Since Mary chooses to bring up our conversation in reference to knowingly committing fraud against the government you should know that she twisted it all around of course. I did not put this conversation about disability in my original Rip off Report because I felt that Mary being disabled and her choice to conceal income is her personal business. I just felt that information was too sensitive in nature and that it would be totally classless of me to bring that up and it would not accomplish anything besides making me look like I was picking on a poor disabled woman. When I mentioned that I was on disability and that I would have to report my commission checks to Social Security Mary readily brought up the fact that she is not reporting her commission checks to Social Security. When I warned her that Social Security would catch up to her if she is filing business taxes she quickly informed me that another Mom on the Team has been concealing her work history for years and it has not gotten caught. When I advised Mary to report her work activity because she will eventually get caught she made the statement I am not about to lose my Medicaid and Medicare! She further stated that if Social Security questioned her work activity that she would tell then that she is only a customer of Melaleuca and advised me to do the same. I tried my best to convince her that if she is earning a commission check that it is in fact work activity and must be reported to Social Security. There was no convincing her! I on the other hand have enough common sense to know that I have to report any and all income to Social Security.
Now in retaliation for my Rip off Report Mary has emailed me threatening to report me to Social Security for working. Those that live in glass houses should not throw stones! It was Mary that was instructing me on what I should tell Social Security and how to get away with concealing work activity from the government. Mary is the deceptive one not me. This is just another example of how dishonest Mary can be.
I have reported Marys threats and harassment to Melaleucas policy hotline. I have forwarded her emails to them in hopes that they will take action and stop her from threatening and harassing me any further. I feel that Marys conduct is very unprofessional and not at all a positive reflection on Melaleuca or the Motivated Moms.
#18 UPDATE Employee
Comments
AUTHOR: Carrie - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, April 14, 2008
POSTED: Monday, April 14, 2008Secondly,...as far as the products..I LOVE them!! They are awesome and SO much better than the ones that you get from your local department store! Their quality in my opinion is SO much better and they are also allowing us to have healthier lives because I am not filling my home up with toxic chemicals that are making Americans sick! I personally love the smell of their products and feel that the smell is SO much nicer than other products out there...I personally would get very light headed and get out of breath whenever I used to clean my home with other products like bleach!! Now I know why! Now I cannot talk about her case with the dryer sheets but I personally have used mine a second time accidently because they were left in the dryer when I put a new load in and they did just fine!
As far as the money aspect...this is NOT a get rich quick!! This is a business that you are building and yes most of the time you loose money before you start making any money, which is the case with ANY business!! I didnt make any money my first month..I had just started but I worked my butt off and I did get a nice check my second month, but that was only because I had the extra time to put into it and I wanted to go fast. Yes I may be only making 3$ a hr right now...lol..but I am working and I am building!! Within 6 more months I will be making more than any regular job outside the home could be paying me and THATS what I am looking at....not where I am at now! You dont get a job at the bottom and say...welll..Im not making what the manager of this place is making so its just not worth it...you HAVE to work your way up!!
No Sales.....we ABSOLUTELY DO NOT SELL!! We refeer others to Melaleuca..thats it! Yes we get a comission of the ones who we sign up but they arent our sales! It would be the EXACT same thing if when we went out to eat at a restraunt and ate their food...we loved their food and we went home and told our family and friends how great their food was...we are refeering others...thats it. The only difference is that Melaleuca pays us for it and even gives us free products each month as thanks to us! I have refeered others to lots of other places before but they never paid me!
The Value/Career Packs are OPTIONAL. You dont have to buy them!! Its your chose!! They are just there for families who understand how harmful all the other products are for there family and want to get rid of them all at once. I personally know of several different families that when they did this alot of their families sicknesses went away all of the suddden like asthma, allergies, add/adhd, autism, so to me it makes it all worth it if they decide to purchase one of these!
I love this company very much and I havent lost any money at all because all the things that I buy each month from them are the stuff that I would be buying anyway even if I didnt do this!! For that matter...even if I didnt do this as a business....I would STILL be a customer of theres...NO QUESTIONS....because I love their products and I believe in what they are doing!!!
Andrea DID NOT loose ANY money in this...she is being refunded for EVERYTHING that she has put in it so in my opinion she has NO reason to complain!
Oh and Andrea...the people that join our team is NOT just another commision like you once said...they are wonderful moms whom I have grown very close friendships with and several of them are like family to me now. If they decided this was not for them then we would still have a great friendship..we are just like that. We are a group of moms that work together and support each other to have our goals achieved and have healthier and safer family lives:)
#19 REBUTTAL Individual responds
LADY DISABLED ON DISABILITY DOESN'T UNDERSTAND
AUTHOR: Mary Myrick - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, April 14, 2008
POSTED: Monday, April 14, 2008#20 Consumer Comment
Inconsistent
AUTHOR: Teddi - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, April 13, 2008
POSTED: Sunday, April 13, 2008Motivated Moms is in fact a team that works together. Had Andrea come to me, I could have helped more. However, she chose to go this route instead.
As for No Selling: We do not sell the products, we are customers & Market the company. Every company in the world has a "Sales Department" and a "Marketing Department." These are separate. We do not sell or stock product.
Commission: In our presentations, it clearly states it is "Up to 20% Commission." Had Andrea asked, I would have gladly explained how this works.
Products: These products are phenomenal! Because of them, my daughter no longer has asthma symptoms. The products in Wal-Mart have all kinds of harmful chemicals in them. Why do you think all of these companies suddenly have a "safer version" of their products? As for the smell, thats a matter of opinion. I absolutely love the smell. Some people do not. Its not for me to decide for anyone else what they should/should not purchase.
Mary's Training: Mary's enroller and I are working with Mary to ensure she does understand everything. I'm not sure about Andrea, but I am a human being and have made plenty of mistakes. Mary is just beside herself. She cried for over an hour because of this situation. She made some mistakes, but is doing a great job at learning more and building her business.
Costly Investment: I'm not sure about anyone else, but my family needs laundry detergent, cleaners, shampoo, conditioner, body wash, deodorant, etc, etc, etc on a regular basis. I am personally saving quite a bit of money every single month.
The Value Pack and Career Pack are voluntary & deeply discounted. Personally, I loved everything in mine!
Costly Advertising: I personally do not pay for advertising. I advertise online for free. I have posted flyers in the past on plain copy paper. With the ink, that might have cost me .50. You can also get free business cards online where all you pay for is the shipping.
Income: Everyone on our team is informed in our many team meetings that this is a long-term income, not short-term. If you're looking for a full-time income, its suggested you get a full-time job. This is meant to be a supplemental income. If you're looking to sit at home on the couch and earn a paycheck, this is not the place for you. The people that are successful at this business know that you need to make short-term sacrifices for long-term goals. If you look at most businesses, you actually lose money for at least 3 years.
Now to the biggest inconsistency of all: SHIPPING COSTS ~ Prior to Andrea posting this, I had informed her that I would cover the shipping costs. Andrea sent a very spiteful e-mail to Mary and (in my opinion) threatened her not to respond. She even made a threatening comment about her husband answering the phone instead of the phone. Because Andrea did not use basic common sense (put opened bottles containing liquid in a ziploc bag), I will now be sending her a personal check for over $60. Amazingly, Andrea did not mention that here. So, Andrea will not be out any money.
Is this business for everyone? Absolutely not! It does take a lot of hard work, but the end result (health, environmental and financial) are more than worth the hard work.

