• Report: #78744

Complaint Review: NEWAYS

  • Submitted: Sat, January 31, 2004
  • Updated: Sun, July 27, 2008

  • Reported By:DADE CITY Florida
NEWAYS
WWW.NEWAYS.COM LEANDER, TX, Texas U.S.A.

NEWAYS ripoff KNEW THAT IT WAS A RIP OFF YOU HAD TO SIGN UP 12 PEOPLE IN YOUR DOWNLINE LEANDER, Texas

*UPDATE Employee: Not a Scam

*UPDATE Employee: Not a Scam

*UPDATE Employee: Neways is NOT a scam

*UPDATE Employee: Neways is NOT a scam

*UPDATE Employee: Neways is NOT a scam

*UPDATE Employee: Neways is NOT a scam

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: There is good and bad

*Consumer Comment: Neways MLM is a business that is making a difference

*Consumer Comment: Neways Is Solid

*Consumer Suggestion: Walks like a Duck

*Consumer Comment: Trina, you are wrong!

*Consumer Comment: Neways is Identical to Melaluca

*Consumer Comment: Neways is Identical to Melaluca

*Consumer Comment: Neways is Identical to Melaluca

*Consumer Comment: Neways is Identical to Melaluca

*Consumer Comment: Neways Not A Scam

*Consumer Comment: Just Not So!

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HELLO IT WAS REALY BACK IN TWO THOUSAND & ONE WHEN I FIRST GOT A POSTCARD IN THE MAIL CLAIMING THAT ALL I HAD TO DO WAS JUST TO MAIL POSTCARDS AND GET PAID AND NOW
JUST LAST YEAR WHEN I ORDER THE NEWAYS PACKAGE ALL I GOT WAS POSTCARDS AND A TAPE AND BOOKLET AND I SAW THE VIDEO AND I WAS THINKING WOW I WOULD DO JUST GREAT IN THIS BUSINESS BUT UNTIL I NOTICE THAT I WAS MISSING SOME INFORMATION NOW HOW COULD I DO BUSINESS WITH JUST POSTCARDS AND A BOOKLET I MAILED OFF TWO POSTCARDS AND I NEVER EVER HEARD FROM THOSE PEOPLE I MAILED OFF THOSE POSTCARDS FOR NOTHING I FELT STUPID NOW TO THIS DAY NEWAYS DON'T SEEN ME DIDLY THE LAST TIME I HEARD FROM THEM WAS LAST YEAR WHEN I FIRST GOT THESE POSTCARDS I CAN'T DO BUSINESS WITH THIS. AND I ALSO ONLY HAD ONE ORDER BOOK BUT WHEN I LOOKED AT VIDEO AND I SAW HOW THESE PEOPLE WERE CLAIMING THAT THEY WERE MILLIONAIRES AND I WAS JUST SICK I KNEW THAT IT WAS A RIP OFF YOU HAD TO SIGN UP 12 PEOPLE IN YOUR DOWNLINE AND THAT JUST DIDN'T SOUND RIGHT TO ME PLUS I HAD TO PAY LIKE 50 OR 100 PV'S EVERYMONTH THANK GOD I DIDN'T SEND IN MY MONEY BECAUSE THEY SEEMS SO FAKE I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE HOW FAKE THEY ARE IT'S JUST LIKE WHATEVER THAT MEANS BUT ANYHOW I FEEL LIKE I WAS RIPPED OFF AND I HATE THEM FOR THAT THEY DON'T SEEMS REAL ANY WAY IT JUST LIKE SMC THEY CAN HAVE THE SAME BUSINESS YOU GOT TO BUY PRODUCTS FROM THEM IF YOU DON'T BUY YOU DON'T GET PAID I JUST HATE MLM MARTEL LEVEL MARKETING IT'S A b***h AND I DON'T WANT THEM TO SEND ME ANOTHER AD OR LETTER OR E-MAIL EVER I WAS WITH THEM TWO LAST YEAR I TRYED A LOT OF HOMEBASED BUSINESS AND THEY ALL FAIL HOW SAD.

Trina
DADE CITY, Florida
U.S.A.

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#1 UPDATE Employee

Not a Scam

AUTHOR: Debbie - (Japan)

Perhaps whom ever your distributer was,was scamming you. You should report them to Neways. Neways never requires anyone to sign up at least 12 people in your downline. In fact they never require you to even have anyone in your downline.

The company offers many different bonuses,but to be eligible for them you do have to purchase at least 100pv that month. You are never FORCED to buy anything. As for the post cards, I am not familiar with that. Yes, if you want to build your downline you need to recruit people,and with Neways YOU have to purchase the applications yourself. At least in my country that is the rules. Like any other MLM in order to be successful as a business you need to recruit and build your downline. In order to be successful in recruiting people, you need to find what they are interested in. You cannot sell something to someone who does not want to buy. That is a whole different subject though.

The merit of Neways is that you don't have to build your downline and still can be eligible for one of their bonuses. If your interest is in making a business, you need to educate yourself on that. If your interest is in the products, you need to educate yourself on that as well. They do have great products which is a very important factor for a successful MLM business. They have a very reasonable plan as well which is equally important. You are never required to buy anything. It only makes sense , nothing comes for free though.

I myself am interested in the products. I want to live a healthier life. Free myself and family of the toxins that do cause cancer. If anyone else who is interested in doing the same and sign up under me(which is totally free) good for them and good for me. If anyone is interested in making a business out of it and sign up under me, even better!

I will continue to buy their products. What is in it for me? A healthy life is the least that I can get out of it. The other opportunities are all up to the individual. If you have a well educated upline you have a better chance at being successful at getting what you want out of it. If not, it may result in failure.

Chairman of the Cancer Prevention Coalition, Dr. Samuel Epstein is just one of the people who are backing up, Neways products. He has a few books out that are helpful in understanding Neways products.
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#2 UPDATE Employee

Not a Scam

AUTHOR: Debbie - (Japan)

Perhaps whom ever your distributer was,was scamming you. You should report them to Neways. Neways never requires anyone to sign up at least 12 people in your downline. In fact they never require you to even have anyone in your downline.

The company offers many different bonuses,but to be eligible for them you do have to purchase at least 100pv that month. You are never FORCED to buy anything. As for the post cards, I am not familiar with that. Yes, if you want to build your downline you need to recruit people,and with Neways YOU have to purchase the applications yourself. At least in my country that is the rules. Like any other MLM in order to be successful as a business you need to recruit and build your downline. In order to be successful in recruiting people, you need to find what they are interested in. You cannot sell something to someone who does not want to buy. That is a whole different subject though.

The merit of Neways is that you don't have to build your downline and still can be eligible for one of their bonuses. If your interest is in making a business, you need to educate yourself on that. If your interest is in the products, you need to educate yourself on that as well. They do have great products which is a very important factor for a successful MLM business. They have a very reasonable plan as well which is equally important. You are never required to buy anything. It only makes sense , nothing comes for free though.

I myself am interested in the products. I want to live a healthier life. Free myself and family of the toxins that do cause cancer. If anyone else who is interested in doing the same and sign up under me(which is totally free) good for them and good for me. If anyone is interested in making a business out of it and sign up under me, even better!

I will continue to buy their products. What is in it for me? A healthy life is the least that I can get out of it. The other opportunities are all up to the individual. If you have a well educated upline you have a better chance at being successful at getting what you want out of it. If not, it may result in failure.

Chairman of the Cancer Prevention Coalition, Dr. Samuel Epstein is just one of the people who are backing up, Neways products. He has a few books out that are helpful in understanding Neways products.
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#3 UPDATE Employee

Neways is NOT a scam

AUTHOR: Debbie - (Japan)

Perhaps whom ever your distributer was,was scamming you. You should report them to Neways. Neways never requires anyone to sign up at least 12 people in your downline. In fact they never require you to even have anyone in your downline.

The company offers many different bonuses,but to be eligible for them you do have to purchase at least 100pv that month. You are never FORCED to buy anything. As for the post cards, I am not familiar with that. Yes, if you want to build your downline you need to recruit people,and with Neways YOU have to purchase the applications yourself. At least in my country that is the rules. Like any other MLM in order to be successful as a business you need to recruit and build your downline. In order to be successful in recruiting people, you need to find what they are interested in. You cannot sell something to someone who does not want to buy. That is a whole different subject though.

The merit of Neways is that you don't have to build your downline and still can be eligible for one of their bonuses. If your interest is in making a business, you need to educate yourself on that. If your interest is in the products, you need to educate yourself on that as well. They do have great products which is a very important factor for a successful MLM business. They have a very reasonable plan as well which is equally important. You are never required to buy anything. It only makes sense , nothing comes for free though.

I myself am interested in the products. I want to live a healthier life. Free myself and family of the toxins that do cause cancer. If anyone else who is interested in doing the same and sign up under me(which is totally free) good for them and good for me. If anyone is interested in making a business out of it and sign up under me, even better!

I will continue to buy their products. What is in it for me? A healthy life is the least that I can get out of it. The other opportunities are all up to the individual. If you have a well educated upline you have a better chance at being successful at getting what you want out of it. If not, it may result in failure.

Chairman of the Cancer Prevention Coalition, Dr. Samuel Epstein is just one of the people who are backing up, Neways products. He has a few books out that are helpful in understanding Neways products.
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#4 UPDATE Employee

Neways is NOT a scam

AUTHOR: Debbie - (Japan)

Perhaps whom ever your distributer was,was scamming you. You should report them to Neways. Neways never requires anyone to sign up at least 12 people in your downline. In fact they never require you to even have anyone in your downline.

The company offers many different bonuses,but to be eligible for them you do have to purchase at least 100pv that month. You are never FORCED to buy anything. As for the post cards, I am not familiar with that. Yes, if you want to build your downline you need to recruit people,and with Neways YOU have to purchase the applications yourself. At least in my country that is the rules. Like any other MLM in order to be successful as a business you need to recruit and build your downline. In order to be successful in recruiting people, you need to find what they are interested in. You cannot sell something to someone who does not want to buy. That is a whole different subject though.

The merit of Neways is that you don't have to build your downline and still can be eligible for one of their bonuses. If your interest is in making a business, you need to educate yourself on that. If your interest is in the products, you need to educate yourself on that as well. They do have great products which is a very important factor for a successful MLM business. They have a very reasonable plan as well which is equally important. You are never required to buy anything. It only makes sense , nothing comes for free though.

I myself am interested in the products. I want to live a healthier life. Free myself and family of the toxins that do cause cancer. If anyone else who is interested in doing the same and sign up under me(which is totally free) good for them and good for me. If anyone is interested in making a business out of it and sign up under me, even better!

I will continue to buy their products. What is in it for me? A healthy life is the least that I can get out of it. The other opportunities are all up to the individual. If you have a well educated upline you have a better chance at being successful at getting what you want out of it. If not, it may result in failure.

Chairman of the Cancer Prevention Coalition, Dr. Samuel Epstein is just one of the people who are backing up, Neways products. He has a few books out that are helpful in understanding Neways products.
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#5 UPDATE Employee

Neways is NOT a scam

AUTHOR: Debbie - (Japan)

Perhaps whom ever your distributer was,was scamming you. You should report them to Neways. Neways never requires anyone to sign up at least 12 people in your downline. In fact they never require you to even have anyone in your downline.

The company offers many different bonuses,but to be eligible for them you do have to purchase at least 100pv that month. You are never FORCED to buy anything. As for the post cards, I am not familiar with that. Yes, if you want to build your downline you need to recruit people,and with Neways YOU have to purchase the applications yourself. At least in my country that is the rules. Like any other MLM in order to be successful as a business you need to recruit and build your downline. In order to be successful in recruiting people, you need to find what they are interested in. You cannot sell something to someone who does not want to buy. That is a whole different subject though.

The merit of Neways is that you don't have to build your downline and still can be eligible for one of their bonuses. If your interest is in making a business, you need to educate yourself on that. If your interest is in the products, you need to educate yourself on that as well. They do have great products which is a very important factor for a successful MLM business. They have a very reasonable plan as well which is equally important. You are never required to buy anything. It only makes sense , nothing comes for free though.

I myself am interested in the products. I want to live a healthier life. Free myself and family of the toxins that do cause cancer. If anyone else who is interested in doing the same and sign up under me(which is totally free) good for them and good for me. If anyone is interested in making a business out of it and sign up under me, even better!

I will continue to buy their products. What is in it for me? A healthy life is the least that I can get out of it. The other opportunities are all up to the individual. If you have a well educated upline you have a better chance at being successful at getting what you want out of it. If not, it may result in failure.

Chairman of the Cancer Prevention Coalition, Dr. Samuel Epstein is just one of the people who are backing up, Neways products. He has a few books out that are helpful in understanding Neways products.
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#6 UPDATE Employee

Neways is NOT a scam

AUTHOR: Debbie - (Japan)

Perhaps whom ever your distributer was,was scamming you. You should report them to Neways. Neways never requires anyone to sign up at least 12 people in your downline. In fact they never require you to even have anyone in your downline.

The company offers many different bonuses,but to be eligible for them you do have to purchase at least 100pv that month. You are never FORCED to buy anything. As for the post cards, I am not familiar with that. Yes, if you want to build your downline you need to recruit people,and with Neways YOU have to purchase the applications yourself. At least in my country that is the rules. Like any other MLM in order to be successful as a business you need to recruit and build your downline. In order to be successful in recruiting people, you need to find what they are interested in. You cannot sell something to someone who does not want to buy. That is a whole different subject though.

The merit of Neways is that you don't have to build your downline and still can be eligible for one of their bonuses. If your interest is in making a business, you need to educate yourself on that. If your interest is in the products, you need to educate yourself on that as well. They do have great products which is a very important factor for a successful MLM business. They have a very reasonable plan as well which is equally important. You are never required to buy anything. It only makes sense , nothing comes for free though.

I myself am interested in the products. I want to live a healthier life. Free myself and family of the toxins that do cause cancer. If anyone else who is interested in doing the same and sign up under me(which is totally free) good for them and good for me. If anyone is interested in making a business out of it and sign up under me, even better!

I will continue to buy their products. What is in it for me? A healthy life is the least that I can get out of it. The other opportunities are all up to the individual. If you have a well educated upline you have a better chance at being successful at getting what you want out of it. If not, it may result in failure.

Chairman of the Cancer Prevention Coalition, Dr. Samuel Epstein is just one of the people who are backing up, Neways products. He has a few books out that are helpful in understanding Neways products.
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#7 UPDATE EX-employee responds

There is good and bad

AUTHOR: Badbiz - (U.S.A.)

I was in Neways. The products were acceptable and I believe there was no deception.

What I experienced was the disillusionment of my downline. Some downlines are strong and aggressive, some are weak, wither and die. Mine was the latter. My mistake was I was too empathic with the ones that got stressed in the beginning.

Are you going to start to day and make money tommorow? Nope. After a year, I felt good that required product purchases were being offset by the commissions from the strong ones in my downline.

However I wasnt being business-like, ignoring the cost of 800# website, credit card merchant accounts, and mailouts.

I did 4 mailings of 1,000 each. That's 4,000 postage stamps. Over the course of this I would go to my mailbox to find it stuffed. Not with checks ( I would have been happy with responses), but with returned mailed. About 1500 returned.

You cannot prosper in the program without mailouts, nor can your downline. So before you spend a dime, Find the freshest lists for the demography you are targeting.
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#8 Consumer Comment

Neways MLM is a business that is making a difference

AUTHOR: Ray - (Canada)

People get involved with Neways for many reasons, all of which are the individuals own. I got involved for two reasons. The first being the products I choose to purchase are healthy choices for my family. Second, I recognized a business opportunity that had potential to allow me to help others, and be profitable, so long as I put the work in, and let others know what was available. As for the Neways organization being just like Mellaluca, they are similar, no question, but there are differences that need to be noted. Minimum purchases for preferred customers is number one, there are no minimum purchases for customers in Neways. Distributors, however, read your documentation on this issue. While distributors have no minimum purchase requirement, they need to purchase a minumum to remain eligible for compensation as I understand the rules. Second the product lines are similar between Neways and melleluca, in the end goal they wish to obtain, but that is where the similarity ends. Neways products have been deemed by Dr. Samuel Epstien to be the Safest in the World. Dr. Epstien is the Lead in the Cancer Prevention Coalition. A statement such as that coming from a man of such stature says it all.
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#9 Consumer Comment

Neways Is Solid

AUTHOR: Larry - (U.S.A.)

Just wanted to say that I am a brand new member of Neways. I have not done much with it yet, but feel very confident that the company is strong and in good standing with all concerned.

Also as far as I am concerned it is not like Melaluca at all at least with the products.

And if I may say, if that lady in Lillington, North Carolina wants to sign back up I will be happy to have her as one of my downline :-) Check out http://www.gettingserious.biz Neways is really a great company.
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#10 Consumer Suggestion

Walks like a Duck

AUTHOR: Wj - (U.S.A.)

Anything that requires you to enroll new members in order to make money is a pyrimid scheme, pure and simple.
I must also doubt the mental capacity of ANYONE who insists on typing in ALLCAPS just because they think it makes their point clearer
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#11 Consumer Comment

Trina, you are wrong!

AUTHOR: Olga - (U.S.A.)

I am still using product made by Neways. It is a great company with great product line. You just have to work hard to succeed! (I am not a distributor...I used to be....and still thinking to renew my business with them....)One of the best products on the market if you really care about what surrounds you in your home and what you use on your skin....Olga.NC.
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#12 Consumer Comment

Neways is Identical to Melaluca

AUTHOR: Debbie - (U.S.A.)

I just wanted to say that after reading Neway's website, they are identical to Melaleuca. Same advertising ("spend same money, just change stores"), same products (only different names), same compensation structure, same type of promoting (sign people up and buy so many PV's per month of products). Even the "free car" promotion. This company started 2 years AFTER Melaleuca, so I say, they are COPYCATS of a company well established before Neways was so-called "founded" (carbon-copied).

As far as Trina's post, I have no idea what she is talking about with the postcards. Like someone else said, the way she wrote that complaint, I can see why she failed miserably. A 5 year old could have written a better complaint in proper English even.
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#13 Consumer Comment

Neways is Identical to Melaluca

AUTHOR: Debbie - (U.S.A.)

I just wanted to say that after reading Neway's website, they are identical to Melaleuca. Same advertising ("spend same money, just change stores"), same products (only different names), same compensation structure, same type of promoting (sign people up and buy so many PV's per month of products). Even the "free car" promotion. This company started 2 years AFTER Melaleuca, so I say, they are COPYCATS of a company well established before Neways was so-called "founded" (carbon-copied).

As far as Trina's post, I have no idea what she is talking about with the postcards. Like someone else said, the way she wrote that complaint, I can see why she failed miserably. A 5 year old could have written a better complaint in proper English even.
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#14 Consumer Comment

Neways is Identical to Melaluca

AUTHOR: Debbie - (U.S.A.)

I just wanted to say that after reading Neway's website, they are identical to Melaleuca. Same advertising ("spend same money, just change stores"), same products (only different names), same compensation structure, same type of promoting (sign people up and buy so many PV's per month of products). Even the "free car" promotion. This company started 2 years AFTER Melaleuca, so I say, they are COPYCATS of a company well established before Neways was so-called "founded" (carbon-copied).

As far as Trina's post, I have no idea what she is talking about with the postcards. Like someone else said, the way she wrote that complaint, I can see why she failed miserably. A 5 year old could have written a better complaint in proper English even.
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#15 Consumer Comment

Neways is Identical to Melaluca

AUTHOR: Debbie - (U.S.A.)

I just wanted to say that after reading Neway's website, they are identical to Melaleuca. Same advertising ("spend same money, just change stores"), same products (only different names), same compensation structure, same type of promoting (sign people up and buy so many PV's per month of products). Even the "free car" promotion. This company started 2 years AFTER Melaleuca, so I say, they are COPYCATS of a company well established before Neways was so-called "founded" (carbon-copied).

As far as Trina's post, I have no idea what she is talking about with the postcards. Like someone else said, the way she wrote that complaint, I can see why she failed miserably. A 5 year old could have written a better complaint in proper English even.
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#16 Consumer Comment

Neways Not A Scam

AUTHOR: Janice - (U.S.A.)

I don't understand what or who Trina got involved with,but to say what she has said is very mis-leading to the Public and in my opinion a slander to Neways.

To defend what I say about Neways just check out this website..www.ineways.com/savesums
Judge for youself....And if it mentions postcards
please let me know?

Last but not not least. Anyone that does not understand that MLM involves recruiting people into your downline and that any business regardless of its product must have sales to survive needs to learn more on the subject.
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#17 Consumer Comment

Just Not So!

AUTHOR: Jason - (U.S.A.)

In response to Trina from Dade City, Florida, what she is claiming is just not so. I mean really, if the quality of her written complaint is any indication of her intellectual capacity and/or her ability to articulate her thoughts and feelings to others, then we all should come to the same conclusion about Trina. Trina would undoubtedly fail at any endeavor that entailed even a modest amount of presentation, such as MLM. Oh, by the way, that stands for multi- level marketing. Not martel-level marketing.

I mean seriously, did you read her complaint. I had a difficult time even following what Trina was attempting to say. Did she really only send out two postcards, or was it really 200? Even if it was a typo, at two hundred postcards sent out, she should only expect a small response.

Look, I sincerely don't mean any disrespect to Trina. I'm sure she is a nice lady.

However, in fairness to anyone reading her complaint and basing their decision to become involved with Neways on her critique, I feel compelled to defend Neways, and the network marketing industry as a whole.

To start with, Neways is a 15 plus year old company within an industry that most (95%) don't make it to their fifth anniversary. Neways marketing plan is very solid and duplicatable. Duplication is a must if, as a sponsor, you expect to enroll people into your downline so they can in turn enroll more people into their downlines.

So, don't be discouraged by Trina's views of this company. You can do it. She's just incompetent.

Sincerely,

(I'm a XXXXX (company name deleted) distributor and am in no way affiliated with Neways)
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