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  • Submitted: Fri, July 23, 2004
  • Updated: Fri, September 03, 2004

  • Reported By:middlesex New Jersey
NORVERGENCE
550 Broad St Newark, New Jersey U.S.A.
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  • Category: Banks

NORVERGENCE rip-off! LET'S FIGHT BACK! Newark New Jersey

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: EX-EMPLOYEE!!!!

*Consumer Comment: We need to get together and Sue

*Consumer Comment: Harrassed by Dolphin Capital

*Consumer Comment: attorney general

*Consumer Comment: Scammed also

*Consumer Comment: Scammed also

*Consumer Comment: Scammed also

*Consumer Comment: Scammed also

*Consumer Comment: Scammed Also

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: President

*Consumer Comment: are you kidding, Cindy

*Consumer Comment: are you kidding, Cindy

*Consumer Comment: are you kidding, Cindy

*Consumer Comment: are you kidding, Cindy

*UPDATE Employee: I agree with Mike

*Consumer Suggestion: They got rich by playing you,.....

*Consumer Comment: Suffering the pain of bieng a NorVergence Customer!!

*Consumer Comment: Suffering the pain of bieng a NorVergence Customer!!

*Consumer Comment: Suffering the pain of bieng a NorVergence Customer!!

*Consumer Comment: Suffering the pain of bieng a NorVergence Customer!!

*Consumer Suggestion: Norvergence Customer also interested in fighting

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Dont forget the others to go after

*Consumer Comment: Norvergence..Matrix box lease

*Author of original report: NORVERGENCE rip off LETS FIGHT BACK

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As I stated in my other report, I too was rip off by them. We are fighting back. If you were a norvergence customer in nj, and want to join us, we are going after the banks. I can be reached at (number removed by ripoffreport.com - to respond, please post a rebuttal or e-mail the EDitor). It is time we fight back. We already have a high power lawyer in place. Remember there is more power with numbers.

William
middlesex, New Jersey
U.S.A.

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#1 UPDATE EX-employee responds

EX-EMPLOYEE!!!!

AUTHOR: Jason - (U.S.A.)

I'm an ex-employee of this Sh**box company. Gee, i really didn't see this comin when i left so long ago. It's too bad they're filing chapter 7. I'll never see any of the money they owe me. If you want to see my original post, go a few pages back by date in May, 2k4. Location Red Bank. Anyone needs to get in touch, Ripoff report has my info.
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#2 Consumer Comment

We need to get together and Sue

AUTHOR: Scott - (U.S.A.)

I am also an Ex Norvergence customer. I have got together with other ex customers that also have wellsfoargo as thier leasing compnay. We have obtained a Lawyer in Iowa where Wellsfargo is located and we are fighting them together. If you are an ex Norvergence customer and have Well Fargo as your leaseing company please contact me you can email me [DELETED]. Or please contact the editor her and ask them to get your name to me.

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#3 Consumer Comment

Harrassed by Dolphin Capital

AUTHOR: Bill - (U.S.A.)

I also was "persuaded" to sign on with Norvergence with Dolphin Capital as the lease holder for that box that sits on my wall....and of course the harrassment has begun...Joan in Bridgeport; I'd like to talk to you about how you proceeded.
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#4 Consumer Comment

attorney general

AUTHOR: Joan - (U.S.A.)

my company went to the attorney general of connecticut we were told to stop paying we were also sent letters from the attorneys of dolphin capital, the leasing company who bought our contract that letter was also sent to the attorney general for his review we are fighting it the box is worthless we took it to a expert and he laughed dolphin capital, sandra ferguson,
if there is anyone else that is being harassed by dolphin capital please let me know
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#5 Consumer Comment

Scammed also

AUTHOR: Scott - (U.S.A.)

Our company is in the same position. Equipment was delivered and then that was where it stopped. Could not get a hold of anyone at norvergence. By phone fax or email. A few weeks later they go Belly-up. Now it has only been 3 months since my lease was started and the Leasing company Wells Fargo has already filed a suit to collect the balance of the lease.

I am not Lawyer but this seems a little fishy. I have never seen a bank file suit against some one for be in default for 2 months.

I now have less than 20 days to respond to the suit which was filed in an Iowa court to fight this. Is this even legal?

Has anyone else been served papers from the court claiming that they have breeched there contract with the leasing company and the leasing company is demanding the lease be paid in full?
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#6 Consumer Comment

Scammed also

AUTHOR: Scott - (U.S.A.)

Our company is in the same position. Equipment was delivered and then that was where it stopped. Could not get a hold of anyone at norvergence. By phone fax or email. A few weeks later they go Belly-up. Now it has only been 3 months since my lease was started and the Leasing company Wells Fargo has already filed a suit to collect the balance of the lease.

I am not Lawyer but this seems a little fishy. I have never seen a bank file suit against some one for be in default for 2 months.

I now have less than 20 days to respond to the suit which was filed in an Iowa court to fight this. Is this even legal?

Has anyone else been served papers from the court claiming that they have breeched there contract with the leasing company and the leasing company is demanding the lease be paid in full?
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#7 Consumer Comment

Scammed also

AUTHOR: Scott - (U.S.A.)

Our company is in the same position. Equipment was delivered and then that was where it stopped. Could not get a hold of anyone at norvergence. By phone fax or email. A few weeks later they go Belly-up. Now it has only been 3 months since my lease was started and the Leasing company Wells Fargo has already filed a suit to collect the balance of the lease.

I am not Lawyer but this seems a little fishy. I have never seen a bank file suit against some one for be in default for 2 months.

I now have less than 20 days to respond to the suit which was filed in an Iowa court to fight this. Is this even legal?

Has anyone else been served papers from the court claiming that they have breeched there contract with the leasing company and the leasing company is demanding the lease be paid in full?
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#8 Consumer Comment

Scammed also

AUTHOR: Scott - (U.S.A.)

Our company is in the same position. Equipment was delivered and then that was where it stopped. Could not get a hold of anyone at norvergence. By phone fax or email. A few weeks later they go Belly-up. Now it has only been 3 months since my lease was started and the Leasing company Wells Fargo has already filed a suit to collect the balance of the lease.

I am not Lawyer but this seems a little fishy. I have never seen a bank file suit against some one for be in default for 2 months.

I now have less than 20 days to respond to the suit which was filed in an Iowa court to fight this. Is this even legal?

Has anyone else been served papers from the court claiming that they have breeched there contract with the leasing company and the leasing company is demanding the lease be paid in full?
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#9 Consumer Comment

Scammed Also

AUTHOR: Scott - (U.S.A.)

I am just responding here to get my name & number out to anybody who may being able to help. I have read alot of these report posted and it seems that we are all in the same boat...

I hope the there is some action that we can take to get out of these fraudulent leases. The Lease company has already filed suit against us only after being in default for 2 months. Just after the Bankruptcy of there partners Norvergence. Hummmm
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#10 REBUTTAL Owner of company

President

AUTHOR: Dr. Stephen R. - (U.S.A.)

I signed up with Norvergence, and soon after felt something was wrong, so I cancelled the contract.....soon after, the high pressure started, then Norvergence offered me a 30 month service rather than the standard 60 month contract.

They said I had only a few days to make the decision, but MUST HURRY....just like they knew what was ging on????

After much pressure, and after receiving many phone calls, like a dummy, I accepted.

I even asked them about being approved, as my credit has been severely damaged due to dissabilities...their reply was; hey, everyone is accepted!!

We never received ANY service, except for a magic box, in a box, that is still sitting on the floor of our office.

Steve Barnhart
Grandview Missouri
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#11 Consumer Comment

are you kidding, Cindy

AUTHOR: Paul - (U.S.A.)

This is in response to Cindy
Cindy did you actually read what you wrote? You are saying that you did a pretty damn good job.
Of what? Helping Norvergence scam people.

I understand you should have gotten paid but don't sit there and insult the consumer for trusting the employees(yourself included)of Norvergence.

If you are so damn smart then why did you take a job at this company, did you do your research? You wouldn't have the first clue when it comes to owning a business so keep those thoughts to yourself and worry about getting your money from the company you did such a damn good job for.
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#12 Consumer Comment

are you kidding, Cindy

AUTHOR: Paul - (U.S.A.)

This is in response to Cindy
Cindy did you actually read what you wrote? You are saying that you did a pretty damn good job.
Of what? Helping Norvergence scam people.

I understand you should have gotten paid but don't sit there and insult the consumer for trusting the employees(yourself included)of Norvergence.

If you are so damn smart then why did you take a job at this company, did you do your research? You wouldn't have the first clue when it comes to owning a business so keep those thoughts to yourself and worry about getting your money from the company you did such a damn good job for.
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#13 Consumer Comment

are you kidding, Cindy

AUTHOR: Paul - (U.S.A.)

This is in response to Cindy
Cindy did you actually read what you wrote? You are saying that you did a pretty damn good job.
Of what? Helping Norvergence scam people.

I understand you should have gotten paid but don't sit there and insult the consumer for trusting the employees(yourself included)of Norvergence.

If you are so damn smart then why did you take a job at this company, did you do your research? You wouldn't have the first clue when it comes to owning a business so keep those thoughts to yourself and worry about getting your money from the company you did such a damn good job for.
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#14 Consumer Comment

are you kidding, Cindy

AUTHOR: Paul - (U.S.A.)

This is in response to Cindy
Cindy did you actually read what you wrote? You are saying that you did a pretty damn good job.
Of what? Helping Norvergence scam people.

I understand you should have gotten paid but don't sit there and insult the consumer for trusting the employees(yourself included)of Norvergence.

If you are so damn smart then why did you take a job at this company, did you do your research? You wouldn't have the first clue when it comes to owning a business so keep those thoughts to yourself and worry about getting your money from the company you did such a damn good job for.
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#15 UPDATE Employee

I agree with Mike

AUTHOR: Cindy - (U.S.A.)

I am an ex employee of NorV and am also just as upset as the many of you out there.... However, Mike from Pittsburgh is right! There were plenty of articles on the internet to warn business owners of how NorV operated. We as ex employees did the job that we were paid to do, put the time and our own personal money into doing our job and I must say, we did a damn good job of doing it.

If I owned my own business, I know that I would have taken more time to properly review ALL of the paperwork that was put in front of me BEFORE I would have signed anything! It amazed me as to how many business owners NEVER did that; and the ones that did, did not sign! Shame on NorV for pissing the money away and going out of business, but shame on you for putting your own personal business in jeopardy like you did!

You want paid back for the money you put into the service, get in line....keep your fingers crossed....and go to bed at night hoping that you may someday get it....(if that's what helps you sleep better) But, you better get in line behind ME and all of the other employees that deserve the money first!
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#16 Consumer Suggestion

They got rich by playing you,.....

AUTHOR: Mike - (U.S.A.)

They didn't get RICH by ripping you off!!!!,...they got rich by exploiting your laziness and your gullable natures,..the dangled a carrot in front of you, and starting out by saying maybe you couldnt have the carrot, ( of course you could,..everyone could,..that's the joke ! )..

you immediately wanted it even more,..remember folks....EVERY WORD of the Norv meetings WAS SCRIPTED,..scripted to make you think that you were special,.and getting this magic box was special,.....think about it,..you leased an $ 80 piece of equipment for $ 25,000!!?!?!?!?!,..if i walked into your office and offered to sell you a copier for $ 200,000 and told you you'd never have to buy paper again,....would you???

maybe,,,..but you'd p[roabaly ask what's to bind me to give you that free paper for the rest of our lives,...nothing,...so why take the chance,...but if i told you only a lucky FEW could get this $ 200,000 copier and the free paper,..YOU'd JUMP....hmmmmm,...not a bad idea,...anybody know a leasing company and a paper company...?
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#17 Consumer Comment

Suffering the pain of bieng a NorVergence Customer!!

AUTHOR: Anjum - (U.S.A.)

NorVergence Executive's made their customers poor and bacame rich off the hard-working AMERICANS paying for their service. I too am a suffering customer and i would like info on how to FIGHT BACK against the NorVergence Company and the LEASE they provided on "their" equipment.

PLZ HELP ME OUT.....
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#18 Consumer Comment

Suffering the pain of bieng a NorVergence Customer!!

AUTHOR: Anjum - (U.S.A.)

NorVergence Executive's made their customers poor and bacame rich off the hard-working AMERICANS paying for their service. I too am a suffering customer and i would like info on how to FIGHT BACK against the NorVergence Company and the LEASE they provided on "their" equipment.

PLZ HELP ME OUT.....
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#19 Consumer Comment

Suffering the pain of bieng a NorVergence Customer!!

AUTHOR: Anjum - (U.S.A.)

NorVergence Executive's made their customers poor and bacame rich off the hard-working AMERICANS paying for their service. I too am a suffering customer and i would like info on how to FIGHT BACK against the NorVergence Company and the LEASE they provided on "their" equipment.

PLZ HELP ME OUT.....
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#20 Consumer Comment

Suffering the pain of bieng a NorVergence Customer!!

AUTHOR: Anjum - (U.S.A.)

NorVergence Executive's made their customers poor and bacame rich off the hard-working AMERICANS paying for their service. I too am a suffering customer and i would like info on how to FIGHT BACK against the NorVergence Company and the LEASE they provided on "their" equipment.

PLZ HELP ME OUT.....
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#21 Consumer Suggestion

Norvergence Customer also interested in fighting

AUTHOR: Mike - (U.S.A.)

I am in Mt. Holly and would like to void my lease with GE Capital for equipment I will no longer use now that Norvergence is bankrupt. I would suggest someone with the know how to set up a web site for New Jersey customers. There is a national anti norvergence network forming. Telecommunication Agents of America (TAA) are active as well. Strength in Numbers! I'm in Burlington County.
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#22 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Dont forget the others to go after

AUTHOR: Tom - (U.S.A.)

Make sure you go after Tom Salzano who is the CMO, don't let this jerk fool you that he says he is a consultant. His brother, Peter. The jerk off was making 400K and his buddy Terry Skemer probably makes well over 200K. They have hidden behind a Sumer Ave trust company. Check out the other officers as well which I shall not name. Please bring these people to justice. Also ask their vendors if their services were actually legitamate; ie phone service. All there vendors as well should sue them for dragging them in the mud with them. IF any ex employee has any information of any wrong doings such as "gray" phone service illegal accounting practices, please contact the authorities such as the FCC, etc.
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#23 Consumer Comment

Norvergence..Matrix box lease

AUTHOR: Albert - (U.S.A.)

We are a company that also got into the 5 year lease with ABB (GE Capital). We woul like to join in fighting back to cancel this lease. I have been told by Ge Capital that we need to keep paying the lease, however we never got the service from Norvergence. They toll me that the two only options I had was ether, buy the equipment or pay off the lease.

Either one will be about $25,000 to $28,000. Can you belived paying for something you are not even using????. We have stop making the monthly payments. Due to ripoff website policy, I have not been able to get your contact info. However I already send and email to the editor, providing them with my info. LET'S FIGHT BACK........
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#24 Author of original report

NORVERGENCE rip off LETS FIGHT BACK

AUTHOR: William - (U.S.A.)

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